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who has the best beats?

FTB-2005	Date: September 11, 2005 @ 7:44 AM what do ya think,who is make'n the best beats at dm?
EtherEclectic	Date: October 24, 2005 @ 5:22 PM beats are like sand castles...almost everyone can make them.
imemine	Date: October 24, 2005 @ 5:24 PM EGAC! EGAC GOT THE BEETS! http://images2.dmusic.com/users/e/g/a/egac/44994.jpg
EtherEclectic	Date: October 29, 2005 @ 12:18 AM FOOD LION!
TameasDust	Date: October 29, 2005 @ 12:54 PM the one with the biggest stick
Omnipotent12	Date: October 31, 2005 @ 4:46 PM Even though I've been here for a while now, I've noticed that TransAutobot makes pretty good instrumentals. Take a listen to his music page. http://transautobot.dmusic.net/
BaBiKoLeAn	Date: April 10, 2006 @ 1:14 PM majyk's beats are awesome.
plungerboy	Date: September 12, 2006 @ 7:27 PM Whos beating who?
dennbb	Date: September 14, 2006 @ 3:19 PM add me to this list
GeneHilbert	Date: September 14, 2006 @ 3:37 PM NO BEETS - LIKE EGAC BEETS!! Well……. maybe pickled………
DeadraveN	Date: September 18, 2006 @ 3:38 AM Yeah, I'd say Majyk. He's one of the very few I've found who makes "beats" that can really be appreciated by just about anyone, regardless of which genres they prefer.
Fraser	Date: September 18, 2006 @ 3:59 AM When I first came onto dmusic, I checked out a few people's sites, and they had some sweet ass music. Now I can't find them anymore
aflunky	Date: September 20, 2006 @ 8:49 PM Dre
K3VIN	Date: September 20, 2006 @ 10:01 PM premo
MisterQ	Date: September 21, 2006 @ 5:47 PM mike e. clark
MisterQ	Date: September 22, 2006 @ 5:29 PM oh, on dm? not sure.
moam	Date: December 6, 2006 @ 1:58 PM Oh Shadowmom would LOVE this topic...
Tattoomom	Date: December 6, 2006 @ 2:16 PM BEATS me.....
Kalos	Date: December 6, 2006 @ 2:23 PM Yeah I'm going to have to with Majyk.
ShadowMom	Date: December 6, 2006 @ 2:48 PM Yo, dude! I'm going to beatz you with a stick one of these days.
moam	Date: December 6, 2006 @ 5:37 PM speaking of beatz... Yo dude! Check out my beatz!
leedsquietman	Date: December 7, 2006 @ 6:58 PM The best beats - whichever sampling CD from Big Fish Audio etc is the hippest thing at that time judging by the repetition I hear on the tv and radio over and over. Or a bunch of Fruity Loops presets is the norm here for 'dope beatz'...
Kalos	Date: December 7, 2006 @ 7:22 PM Hey, if you slice the Fruity Loops presets enough, you can get some decent stuff,
leedsquietman	Date: December 7, 2006 @ 9:38 PM - I agree but many people don't have the patience or ability to slice up the beats so they just wheel out the same old stuff !
moam	Date: December 7, 2006 @ 10:01 PM Although...if you ask Shadowmom, I'm sure she can tell you all you need to know about the best beatz
pangtera	Date: December 8, 2006 @ 2:45 AM Vegetable farms have the best beets...yep, overused joke, and I am proud of it.
NickSawyer	Date: April 22, 2007 @ 2:35 PM beats me
NickSawyer	Date: April 22, 2007 @ 2:36 PM holly crap. someone actually already said that
zedsalt	Date: April 23, 2007 @ 10:12 AM Maybe if you just changed the punctuation, Nick...something along the lines of "Beats? Me!" If it's pure programming, one has to do some REALLY "out there" stuff to pique my interest. JD2theOG has done a few things that blew my mind, but I can't recall offhand if any of them ended up posted here...
Opossum	Date: April 23, 2007 @ 10:17 AM Make plenty of good beets, lettuce hear them, and a lot of other people will turnip to listen!
blacklieder	Date: April 23, 2007 @ 10:51 AM beat in moderation: REST ICE COMPRESSION ELEVATION TechnoAutobot, and whoever did that track with the Robocop sample.
EvalLin	Date: April 23, 2007 @ 12:41 PM Blockhead
NickSawyer	Date: April 23, 2007 @ 2:59 PM On 23rd Apr 2008, blacklieder said: REST ICE COMPRESSION ELEVATION RICE? I do like rice
ndstgmoe	Date: April 24, 2007 @ 9:24 PM Halaka
kingo	Date: April 24, 2007 @ 10:05 PM y0y0y0 madprops for the shout-out!!
ndstgmoe	Date: April 24, 2007 @ 10:17 PM Aw dag, dawg. You know you the shiznit.
arthur15	Date: April 25, 2007 @ 6:52 PM your beats$#@!%3 That messege just screams duh.
arthur15	Date: April 25, 2007 @ 6:53 PM On 25th Apr 2008, arthur15 said: your beats$#@!%3 That messege just screams duh. hmm wheres all the duh emotes I put in? I want a refund!
arthur15	Date: April 25, 2007 @ 6:54 PM your beasts! duh! Owninated kay?
arthur15	Date: April 25, 2007 @ 6:56 PM WTF?!?!?!?!? your cant put in the Greater than symbol????? Hmmm its supposed to be my beats greater than your beats, duh.
PrincessTast...	Date: April 26, 2007 @ 8:47 AM
NickSawyer	Date: April 27, 2007 @ 8:38 AM than yours&trade
NickSawyer	Date: April 27, 2007 @ 8:38 AM hmmm... something is wrong with greater than
Orion	Date: April 27, 2007 @ 8:46 AM I make the best beats on DMusic! because i one of the few who play real drums!
ChillinBuzz	Date: April 27, 2007 @ 9:34 AM cough splutter
NickSawyer	Date: April 27, 2007 @ 5:08 PM mmmmm... samples
devilboy	Date: April 28, 2007 @ 6:02 AM fuck that i make the best beats on dm #1 raper! raps just short for crap!
DeadraveN	Date: April 28, 2007 @ 6:53 PM On 27th Apr 2008, Orion said: I make the best beats on DMusic! because i one of the few who play real drums! I bet 99.9% of the people here play drums.. or could... it's not hard. most just don't have the patience to record them...
Tattoomom	Date: April 28, 2007 @ 7:01 PM Give me a D Give me an E Give me an A Give me a D Oh god...just give me an uzi!
DeadraveN	Date: April 28, 2007 @ 7:06 PM Which one is you??
Tattoomom	Date: April 28, 2007 @ 10:31 PM Ummm....the naked one that is locked in the state mental hospital???!!
Orion	Date: April 29, 2007 @ 3:51 PM Any one who says drums are easy is an idiot i bet all you know how to play is the s***flute
Orion	Date: April 29, 2007 @ 3:54 PM lets here you play drums bitch! i wanna here you play dyers eve by metallica!
DeadraveN	Date: April 29, 2007 @ 4:45 PM ooh, you're an angry little guy, aren't ya? you need some proof? here's me in a former life (my "punk" years)... and yes... I am an idiot, and I can play drums, so an idiot can play the drums...but why do it when you can make digital sounds that sound as good or better? (heheh I know I'm opening up a can of worms with this one..)
Orion	Date: April 29, 2007 @ 10:52 PM yeah you're on a drum set... but that doesn't mean you're good.. and you look like a boy band
Tattoomom	Date: April 29, 2007 @ 10:53 PM Really NIIIIICE headband!
Orion	Date: April 29, 2007 @ 10:57 PM and its all about the live sound for me! listening to a live Metal band.... and digital drums...are...well...Digital.
DeadraveN	Date: April 30, 2007 @ 12:11 AM I didn't say I was any good, just that I could play as I bet just about anyone here can.. I just think it's a bit silly to say "I'm one of the few here that plays real drums" on a website full of musicians... and btw, take a look at your own pics, and then ask yourself if you really want to get into a discussion about "image" and yeah, about the :headband"s give a bunch of 17 year old punkers something that glows in the dark, and well.. they put them on their heads... I don't know why...
ChillinBuzz	Date: April 30, 2007 @ 9:08 AM Ok, Orion... where's the recording of you playing "Dyer's Eve" - I love that song... You have to be bloody good to play that IN TIME and without missing a drum... so let's hear it.
ChillinBuzz	Date: April 30, 2007 @ 9:09 AM Raven, you look more like a member of Dire Straits in the mid 80s... (which, by the way, was their best years)
zedsalt	Date: April 30, 2007 @ 10:28 AM I'd rather listen to some slob with poor timing bang around on Tupperware and cardboard boxes than some cheesy robodrummer (news flash: they're ALL cheesy) any day. Just how bad can the drummer be and still be my preference? Please refer to any tune with percussion on it (which is most of them) HERE.
DeadraveN	Date: April 30, 2007 @ 11:20 AM @ Dire Straights I knew I'd be opening myself up for a bit of ridicule posting those pics (almost 10 yrs old, btw) but I wasn't expecting Dire Straights.. On 30th Apr 2008, zedsalt said: (news flash: they're ALL cheesy) HERE. Zed, you of all people should know the difference between an opinion and a fact.. if you prefer a "some slob with poor timing bang around on Tupperware and cardboard boxes" to a decently produced and enjoyable track that just happens to have digital percussion, well, more power to you. as for me, personally, if I enjoy a track, I don't really care how it was made. It's called having an open mind
Orion	Date: April 30, 2007 @ 1:46 PM Let me try that again" I have the best beats because i play real drums, unlike some people" i think thats better. when i say someone can play real drums.. i mean they can actually play the drums. and kiss my arse buzz! I'd need a double bass pedal to play that!
zedsalt	Date: May 1, 2007 @ 10:46 AM Meh. With the exception of the kind of "out there" programming I mentioned earlier, the best a robobeat can do for me (this is, after all, purely opinion, a matter of taste) is kind of take the beat out of consideration. With no little faults nor flaws, there's nothing there to really engage my ear, and it becomes just one less thing to process. I like having more things to process.
DeadraveN	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 11:40 AM that's actually a pretty interesting take on it, Zed. definately something to think about.. but I still say I don't care how the music is made, as long as it sounds good..
Orion	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 11:44 AM yeah! and digital drums don't sound good
DeadraveN	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:03 PM OK, Orion, are you going to tell me the percussion on one of your tracks sounds better than the percussion on a Bill Rhynes tune?
moam	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:05 PM On 2nd May 2008, DeadraveN said: that's actually a pretty interesting take on it, Zed. definately something to think about.. but I still say I don't care how the music is made, as long as it sounds good.. wow dude, a-fuckin'-men
Orion	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:05 PM yep!
DeadraveN	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:06 PM Then you're an idiot.
Orion	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:07 PM if it was mic'd good yes!
DeadraveN	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:08 PM Well, you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is. (I should write bumper stickers)
Orion	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:14 PM that would be a good bumper sticker you are wrong!
DeadraveN	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:31 PM in saying that you're entitled to your opinion?
Orion	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:38 PM no! you're wrong about me being wrong about digital drums
DeadraveN	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:43 PM two wrongs won't make you right. Take a lesson from Zed up there, take a deep breath and realise your opinion is not fact, it's just your personal taste. some people prefer to judge music based on performance, some on composition or production.. closing your mind off to any aspect of music just limits your own perspective...
moam	Date: May 2, 2007 @ 12:48 PM well the way I see it, the advantage real drummers have over us computer-music people is live performance. I think your type would get further and more popular with most people just because you have the great ability to put on an awesome live show, where as people like me and Deadraven who use electronic drums (me with electronic EVERYTHING) cannot put on that exciting of a show seeing as its just one person on stage in front of tons of people... Might get kinda boring just watching ONE person. BUT, just because we're not performing all over and getting our music to the public all over the place doesn't make us any less of a musician. I put LOADS and LOADS of thought into my CD's as a whole. I'm a CD creator and I take absolute pride in the sound I make, not HOW I make it. Like deadraven and orion both said, its matter of opinion. I know many people who would pick orions music in a heartbeat over our type of music anyday but I also know many people who would pick our music over orions. just my But orion, just because you play real drums doesn't mean you have the right to say you make the best beats, sorry... Sound quality takes place in the "best beats" as well
Orion	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 12:29 AM i was just joking
Orion	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 12:53 AM about the best beat thing. I agree that it's Personal taste, and the live performance thing, but i still don't like Digital drums and when you say Digital drums you mean made on a computer or drum machine?? or electronic drums? cause Computer made drums seem to easy to me. but if you're a one man band, and enjoy making music like you said Moam, i guess it'seasy for you to just make a beat with that(not that you a bad musician or any thing) and put guitar/bass ect... on it, and you have a song. but i love playing drums and guitar when i can. and jaming with the band.... i didn't like the "anyone can play drums" comment, that's like saying anyone can just get on a guitar and play like Bill Rhynes.. anyone can play guitar/Drums but it takes years of practice first. theres my ...
moam	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 1:09 AM On 3rd May 2008, Orion said: about the best beat thing. I agree that it's Personal taste, and the live performance thing, but i still don't like Digital drums and when you say Digital drums you mean made on a computer or drum machine?? or electronic drums? cause Computer made drums seem to easy to me. but if you're a one man band, and enjoy making music like you said Moam, i guess it'seasy for you to just make a beat with that(not that you a bad musician or any thing) and put guitar/bass ect... on it, and you have a song. but i love playing drums and guitar when i can. and jaming with the band.... i didn't like the "anyone can play drums" comment, that's like saying anyone can just get on a guitar and play like Bill Rhynes.. anyone can play guitar/Drums but it takes years of practice first. theres my ... Heh... yeah, fuck it, I can play guitar, drums, flute, harp, oboe, piano, drums, tromboner (i actually used to play that and I havent said that word since I was in 6th grade ), anything really I just can't play any of those well So I guess deadraven is technically right...anyone can play the drums that goes for any other instrument though But how many people can actually play these instruments WELL? THAT'S the question of gold
leedsquietman	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 2:30 AM With digital drums (I mean the likes of BFD, Stylus RMX, Storm, Battery etc) a lot depends on the sounds chosen and how you use vary them as to how realistic the end result and trust me, there are plenty of 'real' drummers who use these tools to supplement or even replace some acoustic drumming because getting a good sound from acoustic drums requires a lot of work on micing and getting the room acoustics good to sound as good. And in the studio, it is regular practice for producers to replace elements of acoustic drums, triggering samples as replacement sounds, so not all real drumming is the 'real' drumming as heard in the room during recording (drumagog is a favourite tool in the recording studios). They can also 'tighten' up timing with various devices, you don't have to be using a drum machine or computer drum vst to be able to handle quantizing or elements of 'swing' etc. Or it is easy to cut up and edit the drums which is another widely practised manoeuvre. It is VERY rare in the past few years even many 'live' performances get this treatment for a drum track to be an actual complete performance as heard in the studio and not cut up and edited with samples replacing some drum elements...
zedsalt	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 10:26 AM There's a difference between hindsight and accepting the idea that, no matter how obvious it is that you're merely stating an opinion, there are folks out there who are themselves opinionated enough that they're unable to figure out your intentions by context and logic alone. For instance, "cheesy" is not an absolute and easily quantified definition. When someone uses a word like "cheesy", you can rest assured that he or she is expressing an opinion. With that in mind, I'd like to point out that what I just said about expressing an opinion was purely a matter of personal preference, style of diction, informed by one particular set of life experiences, etc.
DeadraveN	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 12:12 PM Zed, you copied part of that answer out of a social sciences book, didn't you? I still say drums are easy. I could teach anyone to play the drums in under five minutes... two if they're reasonably coordinated. Granted they wouldn't be handling double kicks or off-set time signatures anytime soon, but teach'em a few fills and variations and they could back up most beginning bands. yes, as with everything, practice and experience makes you better, but as far as just the ability to pick it up and start playing, drums are by far the easiest instrument I can think of...
Orion	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 3:30 PM there is just no winning with you... yeah if you are playing punk its the same drum beat and guitar riff over and over anyone can play punk
DeadraveN	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 3:42 PM I have yet to hear anything from you that couldn't be included in that 5 minute drum lesson. not trying to be mean here, but if you want to sit on your high horse about drumming, post something that shows you know what you're talking about. Ride 8ths on the hat, kick on 1 and 3, snare on 2 and 4.. roll down the toms once in a while and throw in the occasional crash... voila.. you can now play any punk song, most rock songs (including all mrd), most metal songs, all pop songs, country.. etc.. Jazz is a little tougher, but that's a whole other topic to get into there... I agree that metal drummers are some of the most talented, but it's all the same concept, the ones that sepaate themselves are the ones who can throw some more advanced theory into their playing...
DeadraveN	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 3:46 PM heheh (pic courtesy of monkeygirl)
hantu	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 3:53 PM You can make a drum beats without a computer?
DeadraveN	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 3:56 PM everytime I see that sham has posted in a forum I start laughing before I even read it...
leedsquietman	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 5:41 PM That picture reminds me of the monkey phonics drummer in that episode of South Park where they play Dio's 'Holy Diver' Most metal drumming is chopped up in audio editors and drumagoged to a point too. It was one of the things that stressed out Lars Ulrich when Bob Rock was producing the black album, having his drumming cut and pasted and triggering samples...until the money started rolling in then he shut up about it pretty quick...
leedsquietman	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 5:45 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:313_cartman_monkey.gif
Orion	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 5:46 PM stop puttin pics of you sittin on a drum set, DeadraveN
leedsquietman	Date: May 3, 2007 @ 6:00 PM http://www.drumagog.com/ For those of you who love 'real drums' just be thankful this wasn't around in the times of John Bonham and co because the producers would have drumagoged him too and as much as I love this kind of technology, I love the drumming of Bonham, Mitch Mitchell and Ginger Baker(in fact, Andy Johns who produced Led Zep is a leading advocate of digital drums and triggering samples, he just produced a whole set of samples for BFD). Nothing is like it was. Vocals are comped from hundreds of takes, everything can be repitched, chopped up for loop and samples and most 'live' recordings have very little live about them...take for instance Simple Minds Live In The City Of Light album...the vocals were re-recorded (we tried to do them in one take to preserve the 'essence' but it wasn't