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mtekk	Date: February 22, 2004 @ 10:37 PM Now let's not let this get too out of controol... the rules are: 1. Use of only facts and personal experiences 2. Statisctics and graphs, links ect are welcome 3. try to focus on pros and cons of both systems. 4. don't state something if you have no facts, personal experience, or stats to back it up Ok so from a techniclogical standpoint which is truely superior? As for me from peersonal experience I just preferr a pc over a mac, that's just my opinion. from what i hear macs are supposedly great for video editing and production and editing of audio and graphics, from experience i disagree with all three, but then again I haven't been on a powerfull enough system. also remeber this a battle forum
TameasDust	Date: February 22, 2004 @ 10:49 PM seen tests on this very question in magazines ... it all comes down to personal preferences ... your a MAC person or your a PC person ... both have there attributes and plus's for equivalent systems it just depends on which your more familar with or was the first computer you used ... technical points dunna believe in them ... anything you can do on one system you can do on the other ... but apple people are rabid about apple being the best ... rules smules
Maffmatix	Date: February 22, 2004 @ 10:51 PM I think the point of this forum is for battle raps... but I guess this is cool too
Ezicaya	Date: February 25, 2004 @ 9:46 PM Yeah, I thought MACs were battling PCs
mrfatboy	Date: February 26, 2004 @ 12:31 AM what a clever way to involve everyone
pog	Date: February 26, 2004 @ 2:05 AM The specs for the latest g5 are rather intimidating to your average pc user... http://www.apple.com/powermac/ It totally depends what you want the system for. If you want to just do music and maybe video, then a g5 is possibly for you. Dollar for dollar, they out perform the pc's. The main drawback with apple is it has about 5% of the programs available that the pc has. If you wanna play games, or see what everyones hyping about when the latest programs are released, then it is about here the apple is forced into non existance. Battle... Yo your mac is wak but without the facts You can't play games with this pile of crap
Deux	Date: February 26, 2004 @ 3:09 AM ^^^ dope shit lol im up for a little battle
mrfatboy	Date: February 26, 2004 @ 8:48 AM you guys are funny!
kredd	Date: February 26, 2004 @ 10:43 AM i've used both. i prefer a pc. macs look cooler with their cases and what-not, but what can't i do on my 3ghz/1g ram pc that i can't do on a equalled mac? in my experience its always come down to mac guys citing the frontside bus speed and how fast their cpu fans run in comparison to my pc. stupid. there is no battle...its all a facade....BITCHES!!!!!!! sorry, battle threads provoke me to use foul language if you use a mac, well that ain't whack if you use the othuh, well i'm ya bruthuh it don't make no diff, whatever makes you hap so this is the end of my battle rap... BITCHES AND HO'S.....BITCHES AND HO'S
PhantomGhost	Date: March 24, 2004 @ 1:34 AM Definitely the PC over the mac. Some of the new linux computers have good potential, though. But this battle doesn't involve them. :-:~ Phantom
synesthesia	Date: March 24, 2004 @ 4:19 AM i agree with pog--It all depends on what line of work your in. most artists/graphic designers/film editors/film production..blah blah blah use macs. and some musicians prefer macs like yours truly. its kind of like comaring analog to digital. well thats what i think at least.
torndownunit	Date: March 24, 2004 @ 9:03 AM -I use both and I prefer Macs. It actually doesn't depend on what industry you are in anymore, just your personal preference. -OS 10.3 is finally an oustanding OS, and you can run pretty much anything you run on a PC with it with it being Unix based. So those issues just don't really exist. -My only other huge problem with PC's is that I think Windows XP is horrible personally. -Macs huge downside is they are too exepensive. But then again I have been running mine for 6 years now with nothing but a Ram and a harddrive update. It rune the current OS fine, and runs all the latest versions of Photoshop etc perfectly. I know the 6 year old PC in the house would have problems running XP. I don't mind anyone being down on Mac's who has actually learned to use them and tried working on them. There are just way to many people that knock them without knowing much about them or the OS. I guarantee someone will start saying Mac's can't run this or that, or open this or that in this thread. That's just not true anymore.
kingo	Date: March 24, 2004 @ 9:12 AM Computers, of all colors and shapes and sizes, suck. sucksucksuck. I like PCs because I can buy them in pieces from wherever, put them together myself, and install whatever OS I want on 'em. And to me, "PC" doesn't mean "Windows" (though that's what I use,) it just means "non Mac." PCs will run Linux; so PhantomGhost, this CAN involve Linux. Though I'm not saying Macs CAN'T run Linux, I don't really know. I just know I can buy pieces and put them together and what I have is a PC. I dont' know what I DO this, as it tortures me no end having to deal with all that. I guess it's just made it much easier to LEARN to do stuff with PCs, since they're way easier to get cheap.
synesthesia	Date: March 24, 2004 @ 3:19 PM torn- production houses uses macs only. and the avid system is another story. even if they prefer them or not no professional will use a PC to edit a movie. It does matter what line of work your in.
RyanS	Date: March 24, 2004 @ 5:10 PM Since I only own PCs (well, I still have my old Commodore, but that's another story), I would love to get more involved with Macs. The place that I work uses Mac and uses a few programs that are proprietary to them, so I can't run them on my machine at home. Not only that, I've pretty much mastered the PC (both Linux and Winblows), and up for a new challenge.
MarcSalmon	Date: March 25, 2004 @ 5:39 AM well, im a graphic design student and so i should be mac biased. But i can't stand the buggers. I've tried to get on with them since i left school and started college (that was 3 1/2 years ago, im now at uni). I don't have trouble using them, like, adapting to the different interface or whatever, but in my personal opinion macs are crap. they're slow (ok there are fast ones but if u want a fast one, u have to part with a rediculous amount of dosh.) i also find they often cock up for no apparent reason - freeze/lock up, programs crash etc. I never use the macs at uni (emacs + g4s) because something always goes wrong. U can guarantee it! The other thing bout macs is that once they're out of date, what u gonna do? u can't upgrade them. The only thing i like about them is that they look nice. Anyway. I've never rapped before but here goes... (10mins later.. ) Second thoughts i'll give that a miss
pog	Date: March 25, 2004 @ 5:49 AM
pog	Date: March 25, 2004 @ 5:57 AM I'm starting to wonder if the only reason pc's are winning is cos of ibm. That and a mac doesn't have enough buttons on their mice. :lmao: " id="92824">Just for the record, taken from http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/07_jul/features/cw_macvspc2.htm I'm starting to wonder if the only reason pc's are winning is cos of ibm. That and a mac doesn't have enough buttons on their mice.
MarcSalmon	Date: March 25, 2004 @ 6:41 AM lies i tell ya, its all lies
Svensta	Date: March 25, 2004 @ 7:36 AM Apple are losing more due to the paranoid proprietary rights managment of their corporate forbears, which had diallowed 3rd party manufacture and stunted 3rd party software development. Windows, on the other hand has been shipping SDK's for over 10 years now. Macs are a very nice niche, but aren't and will never be mainstream. This isn't due to the virtues or lackings of their systems. It was such a poorly run company for so long, that it will forever be a poor little sister to the IBM/PC/Windows major market. The last two firms (IT software) I've worked for both reported a total of under 12% of users accessing their apps through Apple machines. These were both corporate applications with over 18k cilents global. You strip out the anti-Microsoft sentiment and it would basically be down around 5%. ALthough amongst the 'artsy' set (graphic designers being foremost in my mind) Apples are the substantial majority, because 5 years ago, the PC's available were for this usage. Now however, its a trendy thing.
FraZe	Date: March 29, 2004 @ 12:46 PM Okay im not gonna read all the giberish above... I personally have 7 I-Macs.. my step dad teaches digital media at Drexel Univ. Macs are more superior, thats final. Faster, stronger, more reliable. They are just more expensive so people throw fake shit about them
torndownunit	Date: March 29, 2004 @ 3:05 PM The thing about the small percentage of overall Mac users though is that number never really goes down. And it's probably won't for a long time. Especially when a Mac system usually outlives a PC system by years with basically no maintenance to it. As the above poster said, I don't argue about it. I have owned both systems, and I know a lot about maintaining each. The Mac is just a better machine.
djcee	Date: April 1, 2004 @ 1:07 PM cummon pussy holes lets take a scroll thru the open world listen up let me hear mobile tone justw 8 a min let ur mum cum bak wid er bone afta im dun wid u i spit this shit make look like i kno u u dnt undastand the stash i put u thru ill spit in ur face make u look like a big fukin disgrace so. yo yo yo call me wen ur fone aint a ding coz ill nik ur bling bling
djcee	Date: April 1, 2004 @ 1:08 PM
thedarkaeons	Date: April 5, 2004 @ 3:14 AM I choose option "C" - Linux.
starseven	Date: April 6, 2004 @ 5:46 AM just from personal experience i woudl have to say Mac... every pc i have ever used has given me problems... and my mac doesnt crash.... so that's good enough for me......
gdZiemann	Date: April 15, 2004 @ 12:46 PM With a Mac you can completely and totally remove software you don't want, like Internet Explorer. I've got a beige G3 that I bought in 1996. It runs Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Flash, word processing, spreadheets, databases and ProTools. It's only 366 MHz, but I've never had to wait for it to catch up to my typing (like those 8 MHz Mac Pluses) and it can run 24 audio tracks at a time in ProTools. It has never "not worked". When I bought it, the guitar player I was working with bought a PC because his uncle worked at Intel and he could "get a better deal". Macs were too expensive. Since that time he has been through at least four complete new computers, not to mention sound cards, video cards and all that other stuff that is built into a mac. My copy of ProTools came from him because it wouldn't run on his Windows machine. In 18 years of using Macs, not one virus. No "blue screen of death". Mac is a left-brain experience.
fredzilla	Date: April 16, 2004 @ 9:31 AM if you looking for a girl you can talk to and she got a nice personality and all that, go PC. If you looking for a girl with pretty eyes and some fresh ass thighs, go mac.
pog	Date: April 16, 2004 @ 11:19 AM I know what I prefer and imho that dell's aren't even that good ! :leopard:" id="95865">I know what I prefer and imho that dell's aren't even that good !
jeddak	Date: April 16, 2004 @ 2:04 PM In both cases, I'd have to qualify - it depends on the operating system and how beefy your hardware is. For music, I use a relatively recent (G4) Mac running OS X (Jaguar, not Panther), and scads of RAM. The incredibly low latency, tight integration, high reliability, and cpu power is a wonderful combination. This setup totally gets out of my way - I can focus 99.9435% on making music. Going from Windows (used for my day job) to Mac (on my own time) is like switching from rollerblades on a gravel road to speed skates on a perfect rink - it's almost shocking how much more productive I am under OS X. I've used a PC for audio. My experience is that with a 1GHz or faster box, running Win2k or prefereably WinXP, tuned for performance (all unnecessary services/GUI gewgaws turned off), the experience is pretty good. You're more likely to have issues with specific hardware drivers, if anything, but if you're using common/popular/well-supported hardware, then you may not have any problems at all. Wintel hardware is certainly a lot cheaper than Apple hardware. I cannot comment on Linux/Unix on Intel in terms of audio - it's been years since I tried doing anything along those lines. I do know there are a couple of free multitrack recording packages for nix that are evolving rapidly. IMHO they will always be playing catchup with Reason/Logic/ProTools/Virus/etc, just as nix's are always going to be playing catchup with the commercial GUI's.
Traf	Date: May 17, 2004 @ 7:22 PM errr..what's a PC?
Aibrean	Date: May 17, 2004 @ 11:23 PM http://www.deviantart.com/view/7338260/ customization with PC....do awesome things with different cases... my experiences....(I own a PC (athlon 3200, 1 gig ram, see pic above) and a mac (g4, 1 gig of ram). pc locks up...ctrl+alt+delete and end task/process and oo fixed mac locks up and you can TRY and end task, but thats a 50/50 chance it'll work and if you are like me and run a lot of programs at the same time (graphic design stuff). I bought my mac and two months later the keyboard went bad...then the delete key broke, then while I was backing up data to take it to the store to get fixed, the hard drive crashed...then after that the LCD went. They kept replacing everything and wouldn't give me a new laptop....even though mine was a lemon.. blech I hate macs.

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