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whats better? cake walk or fruity loops?

Majyk	Date: May 28, 2005 @ 12:19 AM which is better?, or is there something out there better?...if you know, plz respond, greatly appreciated!
MuddCell	Date: May 28, 2005 @ 1:05 PM Well... In my opinion, I think that FL Studio is better, but that's just my opinion and you don't have to listen to me, lol. I'm sure this comment helped a lot. sarcastic
Majyk	Date: May 28, 2005 @ 2:32 PM lmao well, it kinda did. but it would help if you told me why and whats the difference
DjG-No	Date: June 8, 2005 @ 7:59 AM fruity loops fo' show
imemine	Date: June 8, 2005 @ 10:34 AM Different apps for different stuffs! Depends on what you’re trying to accomplish.
DjG-No	Date: June 8, 2005 @ 11:01 AM @imemine: yeah you gotta point,if FL doesn't have what yah need it sucks
nicloce22	Date: July 1, 2005 @ 11:40 PM yo i use fL its off the chain. but DjG-No u definately right it suck if u miss something
sinai	Date: July 2, 2005 @ 5:17 AM actually, they kind of work together...FL is more for digital writing and recording of saoftware synths and things, Cakewalk presents itself as more for live recording... but put together, they are fantastic hell i got a free version of fruity loops with my cakewalk software
milladrive	Date: July 2, 2005 @ 8:11 AM Personally, I like Cocoa Puffs.
rtistique	Date: July 2, 2005 @ 4:29 PM FL studio is real hard for me tho
orgasmotron	Date: July 2, 2005 @ 10:52 PM fruity for dropping steamin hot hip-hop beats all day long, hell even that guy that produces for Jay-z uses it.
nicloce22	Date: July 3, 2005 @ 3:38 PM yo orgasmotron u damn right, fruity loops is the shit. i got the demo version of FL5 for free. so am grinding beats out of that shit like hell. Y'all can check out ma beats on ma page when u click "kanamwanagi"
shadowself	Date: July 3, 2005 @ 10:52 PM This is like comparing apples with tuna.
jd2theog	Date: July 4, 2005 @ 4:11 AM I Like fl5 the lay out is nice and e-z to use plus the plug in are bangin!! Cakewalk is good to you can import your samples to it and rec live its more like a home rec for all types of music... the new Ejay hip-hop5 has some cool stuff also,for the 50.00$ price tag its a f-n steal!!
iOrbit	Date: July 4, 2005 @ 6:22 AM "This is like comparing apples with tuna." Apples own tuna. I've never tried cake walk but I love my fruity loops so I'll have to go with FL.
shadowself	Date: July 4, 2005 @ 2:19 PM Well, it's like asking which is better to paint with - an ultra-fine brush or a roller. Both are great, but I would not want to paint a portrait with a roller, and there is no way I am painting a house with an ultra-fine brush. For the work I do, I much prefer Cakewalk/Sonar. But I do multitrack audio recordings with real guitars, drums, vocals, etc. If I did loopy electronic stuff, I would likely prefer FL.
shadowself	Date: July 4, 2005 @ 2:32 PM I just checked out FL's site - I have not used it since 1999. They have added audio recording. Still, for the music I do, SONAR rocks my world.
nicloce22	Date: July 7, 2005 @ 4:15 AM new hot beat on ma page, i made it in 3 hours so check it out and many others. i need feed back people
manz	Date: July 21, 2005 @ 11:19 PM Hi i use to use fruity loops 4.5 then switched to fl5 and and now i have switched to reason 3 it is much more superior to fl 5 in my opinion the qualety sound is amazing and so many sounds and options a little tricky to get to grips with at first but anyone who knows a bit about music should find there way around it after a short while playing check out my page under new material to hear the sounds
imemine	Date: July 22, 2005 @ 12:36 AM Ok then...Thanks for sharing!
MindSculpture	Date: July 22, 2005 @ 8:00 AM Have you ever tried apple and tuna sandwiches? - they rock!
Apertome	Date: July 22, 2005 @ 3:07 PM FL is probably better for loop-oriented music, whereas something like Sonar is better for multitrack recording, or producing music in a way in which you aren't using loops. Personally, I usually use Cubase, and when I am doing something loopier, I use Ableton Live.
imemine	Date: July 22, 2005 @ 3:16 PM Apple and tuna sandwiches are almost as good as fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches! Almost! This would almost be analogous to Sonar verses Fruity Loops and Cubase verses Ableton Live. Almost! :loopy: ier-ier-ier
manz	Date: July 22, 2005 @ 7:14 PM does any one here use reason 3 ?
shadowself	Date: July 23, 2005 @ 2:03 PM Manz, I use 2.5. I want to look into what is new in 3 to find out if I want to upgrade.
just2ska	Date: July 23, 2005 @ 2:51 PM always use fruity loops. If you're good enough with it you can do anything with it. And if you want to record live shit use Sonic Foundry's ACID with FL. Cakewalk = NO.
manz	Date: July 24, 2005 @ 7:30 PM ahh well shadowself it has some more devices with there own preset paches and i am still learning more about the program my self if you have any questions pm me and i will do my best to help you out just2ska i i use to use fruity loops it is a good program i just personally prefer reason 3 it seems to produce better beats and seems to have some more options all of reason patches are meant to be digitally recorded from real instrumeants
mrjonnyd	Date: July 24, 2005 @ 9:37 PM i use cakewalk and fruity loops...but interestingly i think acid champions them both for arrangement. Generally I reckon a mix of different software will give you greatest flexibility.
imemine	Date: July 24, 2005 @ 9:57 PM just2ska “Cakewalk = NO”---Why???? WHY?????----I am freaking SICK and TIRED of people saying that shit WITHOUT an explanation!!! TELL----ME---FREAKING----WHY!!!! Is it “ not up to your professional standards”? Have you EVER even used the program? WHY???????? WTF is the problem with it?
jimbobber1985	Date: July 25, 2005 @ 10:06 AM 4 hip hop u want fl, does everythin u want without bein overly complicated
mrjonnyd	Date: July 25, 2005 @ 12:58 PM i think too many people dwell on the minute differences between software all the packages mentioned so far are sufficient to record amazing stuff so just pick one...and learn how to use it!!!
JasonJSmoke	Date: July 25, 2005 @ 6:26 PM 2 different animals actually, for beats FL is the best
manz	Date: July 25, 2005 @ 6:51 PM well its a matter of opinion i supose as i said i have used both fruity loops 4.5 and 5 and i have iused reason 2.5 and now reason 3 i prefer reason 3 to them all but its what ever you prefer to use fruity loops is easier to start with than reason but imop reason 3 has the best sounds i use to use orchestral and hypersonic pluginns for lp if you use fl i recomend you get those 2 plugins
just2ska	Date: July 26, 2005 @ 3:55 PM always use fruity loops. If you're good enough with it you can do anything with it. And if you want to record live shit use Sonic Foundry's ACID with FL. Cakewalk = NO.
imemine	Date: July 26, 2005 @ 4:05 PM Cut and paste----Brilliant! pinhead!
woodhead	Date: July 26, 2005 @ 4:16 PM WTF is the problem with it? I agree with Imemine on the cakewalk thing, I have used cakewalk, cakewalk pro and now I use Sonar. If the application you need is multitracking I would suggest any cakewalk product, it rules. if you just want to do beats, then FL or any other works, (I prefer Reason for this) but if you are going to sing or rap over your beats then I def suggest some type of tracking software.
just2ska	Date: July 26, 2005 @ 5:53 PM oh wait ... Cakewalk? I thought it said pile of poop. I'm sorry! yeah cakewalk works just fine!
woodhead	Date: July 27, 2005 @ 12:33 AM just2ska, your answer is so sarcastic! you have to love it you rock!!!!!!
Intergalacti...	Date: July 27, 2005 @ 6:25 AM i prefer cakes I got a sweet tooth
just2ska	Date: July 27, 2005 @ 9:04 AM haha ok i'm sorry for giving my opinon w/o explanation. But anyways, just, try them both, they're both fine programs. Depends upon your likings!
GeneHilbert	Date: July 27, 2005 @ 1:22 PM Damn....... I just love you guys.......
just2ska	Date: July 27, 2005 @ 2:01 PM mwah!
Tallisman	Date: December 20, 2006 @ 11:33 PM As it has been mentioned above, the answer depends upon what you want to do. Fruity Loops is streamlined for beat production. Granted, you could use it beyond that. Without a doubt, Cakewalk (Let's refer to this as Sonar - as Sonar offering represent the evolution of Cakewalk) has a much more advanced and developed midi set and implementation. Furthermore, Sonar boasts a 64bit engine, and greater mix bus and mixing options. For sure the savvy user could make hella beats with sonar especially given it's recently improved loop-based features (acid Loops etc...). Personally, I can't deal with either. Fruity loops is not intuitive for me (the key here being, FOR ME!). And i find the GUI on both hard to look at and work with. Personally, i am a Cubase fanatic! the look, feel, features, sound, Routing and mixing (and Mix buss) capabilities, Offline Processing... the list goes on. Also, i am a huge fan of Ableton Live v.5. It has a simple interface and fantastic feature set. It's Audio Warp feature is, IMHO the best such implementation, bar none.. Live sounds great too, and, like Cubase, is a cross platform application - wanna collaborate with a Mac user, no problem! At the end of the day most of these host DAW applications will do pretty much the same thing. Each may have its own strenghts and weaknesses. Therefore, whichever spurs your creativity and allows you to produce more great music - that's the one to boogie with. Rock on! Tallis
leedsquietman	Date: December 21, 2006 @ 8:20 AM Ditto, great advice. I use Cubase SX3, Reason 2.5 and Live 6 depending on what I'm doing, i.e. lots of heavy midi editing or recording a live band with lots of inline audio recording tends to go to cubase, more electronica based stuff tends to be reason rewired into Live. Cubase has the best mixer and deeper midi and audio functions but is the least intuitive program for creating ideas from scratch, Live and Reason excel at that. Heck, rewire all of 'em together if you've got a mega powerful computer !
DrowningBetty	Date: December 22, 2006 @ 3:23 AM both do alot of different things, like comparing earphones to a mic hehe. but i'd always prefere cake over frootloops...just cant get much into cereal.
Fraser	Date: December 22, 2006 @ 4:24 AM Yo fo shizzle, G. I dig da loopers over deh walkin' cake!1!! There aint no broda whoz never gonna tellz me otha wize. Fo rizzle.
EvalLin	Date: January 22, 2007 @ 12:54 PM Fl with recordings and samples.
PrincessTast...	Date: January 22, 2007 @ 2:01 PM Most Flying Apparatus fixings are assembled in Sonar, but we also use other apps.
imemine	Date: January 22, 2007 @ 2:05 PM Fruitcake?
leedsquietman	Date: January 22, 2007 @ 11:03 PM If you're doing a lot of audio editing or intense midi work and/or need musical scoring then FL is not the best choice - it's audio is rather tacked on to the MIDI with loops concept - I mean it has many strengths but not being able to name clips, do offline audio processing etc. mean that it Sonar/Cubase/Samplitude/Logic etc are better suited for these more traditional DAW tasks. BUt for creating music quickly from scratch, the internal instruments and rhythm devices, FL offers a lot especially for loop based or beat based genres of music. My advice - get both. You can rewire FL to SOnar/Cubase etc to get all the quick beat building/musical sketchpad/ synth sounds of FL and the editing and mixing power of Sonar/Cubase etc.
GeneHilbert	Date: January 22, 2007 @ 11:28 PM They both go great with milk....
imemine	Date: January 23, 2007 @ 12:20 AM Well said Leeds!---Thought I already said that----somewhere. My milk curdled in my whiskey!
GeneHilbert	Date: January 23, 2007 @ 12:25 AM Never get shit faced on anything mixed with dairy. Trust me on this one......
meloddot	Date: January 28, 2007 @ 11:42 AM ill go wit fruityloops 6 people..with the waves diamond bundle it is unbelieveable..send me a message if you guys want to purchase that bundle i have it for sale!!!!
GeneHilbert	Date: January 28, 2007 @ 12:14 PM I'm sure Native appreciates your assistance.
SirGeneralX	Date: January 29, 2007 @ 6:43 PM I been using FL so long... and I still cant get the kind of beats I want out of it... WTF!
NickSawyer	Date: February 12, 2007 @ 2:02 PM Cake is sweeter than fruit but fruit is cheaper. I use fruity but don't have cakewalk yet. Fruity works fine for me, but I don't do much recording. For midi and electronic stuff though, fruity is pretty good in my experience.
celtaidd	Date: February 12, 2007 @ 6:53 PM Just got Sonar, already have FL5, see how they go together. God, I love trying new music software
plungerboy	Date: February 14, 2007 @ 6:01 AM im sticking with fruity loops for now, but... can cakewalk record audio into a a track automatically(without ASIO). I have simpleton software, so fruity loops still rocks for me, as soon as i go more pro, ill make the move over. But most likely to Cubase, which seems to be much more popular than Cakewalk, and as for Sonar, does it have VST support yet? If not, no deal!
shadowself	Date: February 14, 2007 @ 10:21 AM Sonar has VST support, and has for a long time. What do you mean "record audio into a track automatically"? Yes, you can use non-ASIO drivers with Sonar, but there will be latency like you would have with any other software. If you have a Creative card, check out the kX drivers (used 'em for years, and they work great) or ASIO4All (never tested).
leedsquietman	Date: February 14, 2007 @ 2:37 PM vst wrapper - which worked out fine for 95% of vst apps but true native support is now included for maximum compatibility. Cubase has dropped DX support in CUbase 4, calling it a 'legacy plug-in' and they did it without botheing to inform their users, many of whom had vast arrays of DX plugins such as Waves or Antares Autotune and only learned about it after they'd ponied up the dough. Software is ... software - most daw applications overlap on 95% of their features, it all boils down to what floats your boat in terms of usability and workflow. It's not the software that makes the music, it's the musician/producer !!
leedsquietman	Date: February 14, 2007 @ 2:39 PM dx wrapper and earlier verison allowed you to download freeware wrapper that worked quite effectively for most vsts. Sonar 6 was the first release to include inbuilt native support of vst according to Steinberg's standards.
leedsquietman	Date: February 14, 2007 @ 2:41 PM what's happening here, the first lines of my message were deleted on both the previous posts? sonar 1-4 only supported DX plugins but 3rd party wrappers allowed use of most vsts. sonar 5 included a built in wrapper. sonar 6 has native support of vst licensed from steinberg.
Jazzmary2U	Date: February 15, 2007 @ 10:49 AM Which is better.. the one you use most, of course
sarkastmusic	Date: November 29, 2007 @ 12:59 PM Both are good for different things, depends what you are doing. Please check out my music and then click contact and send me feedback. Thanks I appreciate it! http://www.rubberchix.com/music.html Thanks again!
StepChild	Date: November 29, 2007 @ 1:03 PM FL STUDIO!!!! No questions!
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