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How do you transfer files in your collabs?

imemine	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:15 PM To share Ideas as how to best accomplish file transfers etc.
onewhodreams	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:35 PM Just to share ideas you can either send mp3's via email or upload them here on DM. For the final mix you can either do the same or use http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ How have you done it in the past imemine1?
povertystricken	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:37 PM email eachother wav files, that would be the best way to preserve quality. Hope you got big box
victorsskull	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:42 PM yousendit.com is a great way to do it you can upload huge files even wavs
imemine	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:47 PM Well---both good and bad. I prefer to work with raw files (.wav or .mp3) but it’s imperative to not alter the timing at all even if that means dead spaces. I don’t know how to use the SMPTE code in my software that would help with this problem tremendously. Trying to sync tracks that have been altered sucks and is often just not quite right. I have worked on a few projects that we recorded track OVER track. They came out OK but once that is done, there is no going back and you are stuck with who ever the last persons mix was. Stuff can get buried in the mix if your not REALLY careful. As far as transfer, we have either posted it here for pick up or used http://www.yousendit.com . Great FREE service for transferring large files over the internet directly to your e-mail. There is probably more but I can’t think of it right now.
onewhodreams	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:47 PM also dropload.com
Acumen	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:50 PM "Hope you got big box" hehe
onewhodreams	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:50 PM I think the best way is to decide on who's going to do the mixing and everyone else sends their tracks to that one person. Almost finished with a Collab with 6 other DM'ers that should be out soon and it's working well that way
imemine	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:51 PM I totally agree!!!!!
imemine	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 1:52 PM So wow! when is this due? I can't wait!! Six you say?
onewhodreams	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 2:08 PM Yes, well 7 including myself and soon...very soon
AdamsGod	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 3:22 PM i got a collab coming up too.. i was thinking of just sending the WAV. files via MSN.
povertystricken	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 3:36 PM should work if you have the 250Mb box
hueseph	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 9:13 PM MSN allows for 10 meg atttachments now and my box is 250 megs. So I think that wav files with all spaces is the most logical way until the final mix.
kingo	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 9:23 PM .wavs are quite often much bigger than 10 megs, is the problem with that. I second or third or fourth the recommendation for www.yousendit.com. It's a pretty nice way to do this stuff if you've got large files to transfer and no access to a nice FTP server with mucho space.
povertystricken	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 9:43 PM When a file is attached to an e-mail message, it increases in size. This is due to the fact that there is overhead created during the encoding process, which can cause your attachments to increase up by up to 30%. So it's unlikely that you'll be able to attach a file that is larger than 7.6MB to an e-mail. Also, the more messages you have stored in your mailbox, the smaller your maximum file attachment size will be, so it's a good idea to empty all of your e-mail messages before sending a large file. As we all know, 7.6MB of wav format is too short to do anything with, so these third party services may be the only way to go. Unless you want to compromise quality and send a more compressed format.
sinai	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 9:56 PM if you've got a spare hour and a half to wait for it, you can zip it and send it over yahoo/msn messenger
imemine	Date: December 21, 2004 @ 11:03 PM
cosmicearthgirl	Date: December 23, 2004 @ 11:04 AM I'm all for yousendit.com for wav files and email for mp3 files. But that really sucks if you don't have DSL. I still remember those dark days!
imemine	Date: December 23, 2004 @ 11:17 AM Personally, I am more than comfortable with yousendit for file transfer. I guess I should have called this forum something else. I guess I would like to find out more about syncing and working with raw tracks—opinions as to how you folks are doing this! Stuff like this from OWD- “I think the best way is to decide on who's going to do the mixing and everyone else sends their tracks to that one person.” So, what do you folks think?
ICF	Date: December 23, 2004 @ 11:20 AM All i've normally done is post my track up here, let the other download it then take it back down. Then once they've done their part to it, i download it and they can take it down etc. untill its finished.
kingo	Date: December 23, 2004 @ 5:03 PM There's a big loss of quality there if you do that, Interconnected... Using mp3s to work from can sacrifice sound quality; of course not everyone's concerned about that. imemine: regarding synching, I think the methods there are different depending on the people involved. No matter what, there's always going to be one person who does the final mix. But the synching part in particular, trying to line up raw tracks and stuff -- it's pretty tough if you've got stuff going back and forth. Making each wav file for each individual track the same length, keeping silences and all, is the best way to assure stuff's going to be as easy as possible to line up that I know of. I also haven't used SMPTE; I haven't even tried it, but from what I can tell the version of Cakewalk that I have wouldn't be able to use it for this anyway. It'll synch up to an external source which is sending an smpte signal through midi; there's no discussion in the documentation about wav files with smpte code in them that can be auto-locked together. Hmmm. Sounds like a job for a plugin or something.
Vickxxx	Date: December 26, 2004 @ 3:14 AM I agree with OWD. It's the easiest way to get the tracks moving smoothly and quickly. Synching: Definitely the simplest way is to send the file with all the silences. But sometimes the files can be huge and time consuming to send, so a collaborator may send just the solo for instance with a couple of empty bars before and after the solo.. And that collaborator will tell you exactly at what beat,frame, or real time that the track being sent should be lined up to. Always start your recording on the beat..it makes it simple to line up this way. Mp3 or wav files both seem to work fine....I prefer the mp3 just for their size.
imemine	Date: December 26, 2004 @ 2:21 PM
AGenePunckbowee	Date: March 22, 2005 @ 2:26 PM X-Hall loser and I have been collaborating via email for a couple of months. He lives in France and I'm in Texas. Our most recent was Deep In Your Soul. we've been sending wma and mp3 files, then converting them (at least on my end, because I'm dumb) to wav files. Then the tracks I've made (which are wav) convert to wma. It is a good idea that one person do the mixing, so things can still be changed if needed or wanted.
leflaw	Date: March 22, 2005 @ 4:58 PM Has anyone started using sending multitrack protools or digital performer files?
rehdogg	Date: March 24, 2005 @ 8:56 AM Just to share ideas you can either send mp3's via email or upload them here on DM. For the final mix you can either do the same or use http://www.lulu.com

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