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leedsquietman	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:22 PM But we HAVE to draw the line at Ringo's solo efforts
ChillinBuzz	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:22 PM On 18th May 2008, leflaw said: I count Beatle solo efforts as Beatles. My own interpretation. Bollocks - To put it bluntly. The Beatles were awesome but McCartney's solo stuff was not on the same level... And as for Lennon's stuff, it was in a class of its own.
leflaw	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:24 PM I have spent 24 hours listening to Beatles Covers... THEY ARE GREAT!!!! Keep em coming.
leedsquietman	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:25 PM +1 Although Band On The Run was actually a great album by Wings, Band On The Run, Jet, Bluebird, Let Me Roll It etc, all good stuff. Macca at his best is very good, but Lennon is a GENIUS. Apart from his Rock and Roll album (and the terrible version of Stand By Me etc), everything he did had artistic merit.
rolar3	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:26 PM Shit...I think Wings was the best thing outside of the Beatles personally....Silly love songs is so freakin' tasty!!!
leflaw	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:29 PM Not a wing nut, myself.
ChillinBuzz	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:30 PM Silly Love Songs is great... but you'd never see John performing that. No fecking way.
ChillinBuzz	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:30 PM On 18th May 2008, leflaw said: Not a wing nut, myself. You don't have wings, boss...
leflaw	Date: May 18, 2008 @ 3:31 PM On 18th May 2008, ChillinBuzz said: [QUOTE info=leflaw,May 18, 2008 @ 9:39 AM]I count Beatle solo efforts as Beatles. My own interpretation. Bollocks - To put it bluntly. The Beatles were awesome but McCartney's solo stuff was not on the same level... And as for Lennon's stuff, it was in a class of its own.[/QUOTE] OK BIG SHOT ... where is your Beatles cover?
NosmoKing	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 3:26 AM On 18th May 2008, rolar3 said: Shit...I think Wings was the best thing outside of the Beatles personally....Silly love songs is so freakin' tasty!!! You mean "Nasty" dont you?
zedsalt	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 3:26 AM I have to agree that, considering the Beatles' catalog, the idea of including solo efforts would seem kind of lame. And that's coming from somebody who likes a lot of Ringo's solo stuff. And someone who would consider covering Ringo's cover of "Husbands and Wives" just for an excuse to sing "hoosbinds" (That's as close as I can get phonetically).
BOWILLIE	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 3:33 AM ok..macca tunes as aposed to lennon tunes.. not denying lennons genious but commercial music wise paul waxed johns ass. because of tunes that stand out memory wise.. john hit with imagine.. stand by me(a cover tune) his collabs with bowie and elton john. notably alot of his songs were great..but didnt catch the mass appeal that macartney enjoyed with his strict solo efforts. maybe im amazed my love band on the run jet helen wheels high high high the list goes on. johns success with double fantasy was contributed to his long hiatus and ultimatly his untimely demise. (one wonders if they hadnt disbanded what different versions all those solo tracks would have sounded like.
GeneHilbert	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 3:50 AM Double Fantasy was good, but Walls & Bridges was the shit.
zedsalt	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 3:52 AM If anyone waxed my ass, it'd look pretty silly, being one of the few hairless spots on my bod. The former Beatle albums that spend the most time on my stereo are...far and away, no contest...George's. And my favorite former Beatle doing a cover tune tune is his version of Hoagy Carmichael's "Hong Kong Blues". That one gets stuck in my head all the time.
rolar3	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 2:20 PM I'd like to hear someone cover "Fab" by the WIllburys personally!
BOWILLIE	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 2:39 PM i was under the impression that fab*..or when we were fab was a george solo..not a t.wiburies tune..corecct me if im wrong. http://youtube.com/watch?v=qOVlT9CPEkw
BOWILLIE	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 2:41 PM my spelling bites tonight. although listening to track again i do see and hear jeff lynne.. maybe it was pre- wilburys?
leedsquietman	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 2:48 PM Commercial success doesn't come into it for me. Britney Spears has commercial success. McCartney is a versatile songwriter, but it has to be said, that (esp. in Wings and early solo LPs) he was playing for commercial success. Lennon's SONGS had substance, compare the Christmas songs : McCartney - Simply Having A Wonderful Christmas Time, a very annoying, grating nothing of a song that was probably no 1 in 100 countries or something, Lennon - Merry Xmas, War is Over - Amazing song with depth that many people probably hide at Christmas time so as not to spoil the jollies Lennon's Legend album absolutely licks McCartney's Best Of. #9 Dream, Instant Karma, Jealous Guy, Working Class Hero, Woman, Just Like Starting Over, Mind Games etc.
leedsquietman	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 2:49 PM Agree with Gene, Walls And Bridges, amazing album.
BOWILLIE	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 2:51 PM yep..it was written by george and jeff lynn and appeared on the album cloud 9 .(one of my favorite harrison tunes)
southwing	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 5:18 PM I'm just gonna have to agree with Frank Sinatra when he said "SOMETHING, is the best Lennon/McCartney song ever" and simply because 'The Chairman' had some scary scary friends :cementshoes:
GeneHilbert	Date: May 19, 2008 @ 5:24 PM To bad he was incorrect. That is a Harrison tune.....
BOWILLIE	Date: May 20, 2008 @ 2:18 AM ..yea..that was the irony of his comment about something.. i think every beatle fan pretty much made the same retort when he said that much like the time the person walked up to john and said i love how you sing yesterday. that pretty much pissed him off..
zedsalt	Date: May 20, 2008 @ 3:33 AM "Scrambled eggs...baby, how I love your legs..." -original working lyrics to "Yesterday", I'm told. Sinatra's reported organized crime connections don't scare me so much now that he (and many of them, I'd have to think) have passed away. Still, I'll laugh respectfully about him not knowing which Beatle wrote what. "Working Class Hero" is absolutely freakin' BRILLIANT. I think McCartney has written plenty of substantive songs, "dark" songs, etc., and Lennon proved more than once that he could do silly Pop schtick with the best of 'em. Last Christmas, I was tickled pink to hear both the songs LQM mentioned within fifteen minutes of each other on...um...whatever satellite radio show they were playing at our local Dairy Queen. Both seemed appropriate enough, just like a cartoon Santa and a crucifix.
evansorchid	Date: May 20, 2008 @ 1:15 PM Because (I was bored) - A Beatles cover Okay everyone, It took about 3 hours, but here's my contribution.
ChillinBuzz	Date: May 20, 2008 @ 1:47 PM
zedsalt	Date: May 21, 2008 @ 3:17 AM Did I ever mention that I've held the guitar John played at the Bed In?
GeneHilbert	Date: May 21, 2008 @ 8:05 AM I think she needed a shave.....
leflaw	Date: May 21, 2008 @ 8:37 AM
ChillinBuzz	Date: May 21, 2008 @ 8:42 AM On 21st May 2008, zedsalt said: Did I ever mention that I've held the guitar John played at the Bed In? Have you washed your hands since?
rolar3	Date: May 21, 2008 @ 3:03 PM Yahoo messenger Lar!
zedsalt	Date: May 22, 2008 @ 3:44 AM I embraced the gal I was dating at the time immediately after handling the guitar. She said, "I feel just like Yoko!" I responded, "Well, we'd better call her again for permission before we test that!" I'm sorry. I made that part of the story up just now. Wouldn't it be cool, though, if that's what actually happened? Still, it was a nifty experience.
1o1rocks	Date: May 22, 2008 @ 5:50 AM hey guyz, uploaded a cover of "let it be"..hope u'll will like it, but it different from the original...hehe...HOPE TO HEAR FROM U ALL!!
BOWILLIE	Date: May 22, 2008 @ 5:56 AM 101rocks. ............ this track is a very original modern take on an old standard one would think couldnt be modified to a new era version... i really like this. way to go bro. http://genreseeker.dmusic.com/music/comments/366907/post
leflaw	Date: May 23, 2008 @ 8:48 AM OK gents and ladies. I have pondered this and hereby propose the following. We put together MEAT DBEATLES vol 1 and 2 CD's with 10 - 14 tracks on each. Tracy in charge of cover art, liner notes, etc. I will re-master tracks, with a little help from my friends We list it on CD BABY and Amazon for fullfillment as Double CD for $20.00, and We put it on Itunes , Walmart, emusic, rhapsody and others for download. We buy google ad words to promote it, plus make a Youtube/revver video, plus net press releases. (We need to determine who is in charge of this) Net Revenue Split - (after deduction of On-line distributor cut, mechanicals at 9 cents per track , approved promotional expenses) Dmusic 50% artists/producers 50% (prorated by proprtionate share of number of tracks used) Same deal for film Syncs. Dmusic will handle negotiations. Artist keeps ownership of his/her track, plus can use Dmusic remastered copy. Dmusic owns remastered copy and compilation only. ---more to come----- thoughts?
GeneHilbert	Date: May 23, 2008 @ 9:47 AM I have no issues with that.
rolar3	Date: May 23, 2008 @ 10:18 AM I'm ok with that too. As long as the artist has final approval on any remix. Too much critique by artist and they're out. Fair enough?
leflaw	Date: May 23, 2008 @ 11:55 AM right.
GTOriginal	Date: May 24, 2008 @ 10:36 AM On 18th May 2008, leflaw said: I count Beatle solo efforts as Beatles. So, when I do a cover of Yoko Ono's Kiss, kiss, I'm in business, right?
evansorchid	Date: May 24, 2008 @ 12:37 PM I gotta nuther one for ya.... Blackbird I figured that since Blackbird seemed to be the most popular song on your latest DM poll that I figured that I would cover it.
leflaw	Date: May 25, 2008 @ 1:35 AM On 24th May 2008, GTOriginal said: [QUOTE info=leflaw,May 18, 2008 @ 9:39 AM]I count Beatle solo efforts as Beatles. So, when I do a cover of Yoko Ono's Kiss, kiss, I'm in business, right? [/QUOTE] WRONG
GTOriginal	Date: May 25, 2008 @ 12:44 PM Sorry. Hehe that was almost a terroristic threat. Yoko Ono cover, indeed. Oh boy...
miraclemaker	Date: May 25, 2008 @ 1:10 PM Here is my cover of "A Hard Days Night" http://artw.dmusic.com/music/comments/367001 please give it a listen
BOWILLIE	Date: May 26, 2008 @ 4:07 AM On 25th May 2008, leflaw said: [QUOTE info=GTOriginal,May 24, 2008 @ 10:36 AM][QUOTE info=leflaw,May 18, 2008 @ 9:39 AM]I count Beatle solo efforts as Beatles. So, when I do a cover of Yoko Ono's Kiss, kiss, I'm in business, right? [/QUOTE] WRONG[/QUOTE] so much for my linda macca cook of the house cover.
GTOriginal	Date: May 26, 2008 @ 2:55 PM And another... Here Comes The Sun http://files.dmusic.com/music/g/t/gtoriginal//GaryRoad.jpg " border="0">http://files.dmusic.com/music/g/t/gtoriginal//GaryRoad.jpg " />
leedsquietman	Date: May 26, 2008 @ 3:09 PM I still have nightmares about Here Comes The Sun, living in London for 4 years, it was presented to me about 6 times daily by various buskers on the tube or street corners who were frequently terrible and could never do the guitar riff properly. Your version was, much to my relief, much much better I have to say though that I am getting Beatled out a bit of late, I even deleted my cover versions of I'm Only Sleeping off my hard drive because it's becoming a bit of a groundhog day. I am feeling somewhat better after putting on some Ramones and Never Mind The Bollocks by The Sex Pistols as some cheap trashy relief. 2 and 3 powerchord punk rock at it's dirty best.
elektronz	Date: May 27, 2008 @ 6:54 AM thought id have a crack at this as its a top idea ,,but after having listened to the other tunes ,,id wished id hadnt botherd lol ,anyways for something a little different have a listen to this ,,its an attempt at a mix of within you without you with a touch of tomorrow never knows thrown in ,,,not quite conventional drums guitar and vocals but hey i cant play guitar and i cant sing ,lol anyways heres my attempt ,,called it tomorrow within ... http://etron.dmusic.com/music/comments/367032
GeneHilbert	Date: May 27, 2008 @ 7:29 AM On 25th May 2008, miraclemaker said: Here is my cover of "A Hard Days Night" http://artw.dmusic.com/music/comments/367001 please give it a listen This is jamming..... On 26th May 2008, GTOriginal said: And another... Here Comes The Sun http://files.dmusic.com/music/g/t/gtoriginal//GaryRoad.jpg " border="0">http://files.dmusic.com/music/g/t/gtoriginal//GaryRoad.jpg " /> Good Job - Well Done to both of you....
rolar3	Date: May 27, 2008 @ 3:49 PM Linda and Yoko got nothing on young Maci Jane!! WOOHOO!!!
imemine	Date: May 27, 2008 @ 5:44 PM This is
GreatGooglyM...	Date: May 27, 2008 @ 9:03 PM Can I still submit a song? I have jazzy arrangement of Yesterday (cheesy I know) lying somewhere, I just need to record it.
BOWILLIE	Date: May 28, 2008 @ 2:45 AM i would love to hear it besides that avie would look cool in here http://images2.dmusic.com/users/b/o/w/bowillie/65696.jpg
MultiMike	Date: May 28, 2008 @ 9:50 AM New Beatles collab with Multimike/NosmoKing/Rolar3....... MAGICAL MYSERY TOUR LISTEN [/b] [/color] [/center]
MultiMike	Date: May 28, 2008 @ 9:59 AM Correction....MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR will someone get this page fixed
Distilled1	Date: May 28, 2008 @ 2:05 PM Me and the boy are going to have one I hope we can get it done and be worthy to get it up
elektronz	Date: May 28, 2008 @ 10:15 PM added a second beatles track ,,heres my version of because ...enjoy http://etron.dmusic.com/music/comments/367115
ShadowMom	Date: June 12, 2008 @ 9:56 AM Givin' dis one da BUMP!! C'mon, more more MORE!!
elektronz	Date: June 13, 2008 @ 1:07 AM got a new track out ,,its a remix ,,now theres a suprise LOL ..its electric gypsy`s tune tomorrow never knows ,,its the first time ive used the slayer guitar vst and the first time ive used vocals rather than synthesized speech .. tomorrow never knows
GeneHilbert	Date: June 14, 2008 @ 8:17 AM I have finally been able to re-record "Taxman" - http://genehilbert.dmusic.com/music/comments/234610 The old file was a trial mix made just days before I lost the master in a HD failure. It was terribly over compressed, but it was all I had left. This is much better....
GeneHilbert	Date: June 20, 2008 @ 4:01 AM A complete redo "Day Tripper" posted as well http://genehilbert.dmusic.com/music/comments/366791 The original was also on the same HD
ShadowMom	Date: June 26, 2008 @ 6:11 PM Gene better post here next... check it out! And don't forget the Hurricane Project, too! Keep them coming!!
GeneHilbert	Date: June 27, 2008 @ 5:23 AM My final contribution........ unless I bribed of course.
GeneHilbert	Date: June 27, 2008 @ 5:25 AM I hate the new format...... http://genehilbert.dmusic.com/music/comments/367910
elektronz	Date: June 28, 2008 @ 2:09 AM done another one for you this time strawberry fields gets the once over elektronz style ,,enjoy this electro bod version strawberry fields
AdNauseam	Date: June 28, 2008 @ 10:11 AM I should have a revision edition of "Lady Madonna" up on my site today or tomorrow.
AdNauseam	Date: June 28, 2008 @ 10:36 AM http://beihl.dmusic.com/music/comments/367944 Comments, please: Final revision up tomorrow or Monday!
ShadowMom	Date: June 28, 2008 @ 3:23 PM I am getting miffed now... look it up, it's not a happy face. NOBODY will sing "Girl" for me?
BOWILLIE	Date: July 3, 2008 @ 7:56 AM ..the world is treating me bad...misery.. http://kntmds.dmusic.com/music/comments/368042
NosmoKing	Date: July 4, 2008 @ 9:58 AM Rocky, Mike and I are quite upset with the Remix of our tunes.. especially MMT. We have said it many times and we are back at square one, with a reverb unit totally messing up the tune. http://meatdbeatles.dmusic.com/music/comments/368153 We would appreciate that you respect our wishes posted in the comments of the song.. and reposted here This reverb is absolutely terrible! We have been here before. We dont understand how you can think this sounds good when you have already got so many negative comments (Now deleted) that your remix is not good. Mike agrees with this. If you cannot play the tune as it was meant to be heard, but with minor touchups, we would ask that you please remove it and do NOT include it in your compilation CD if that was your intention! Thank you
leflaw	Date: July 4, 2008 @ 10:38 AM There is no reverb on the track, only compression. The hi mids are OUT OF CONTROL. It is my job to harmonize the various mixes and levels. Your levels are way too hot. I also have the job of deciding that if a track is 99 percent there, but has a goof, it has to be hidden with compression or reverb, and I don't have the wave file or multitrack. Its a thankless task. I will delete the track if you wish. Ps: this track posting was not for public consumption, as it was for the participants, but I left it visable for an hour. It is still a work in progress. A luthier once told me "Never show a fool a work in progress". Words to be guided by.
NosmoKing	Date: July 4, 2008 @ 11:21 AM If you really believe and you must that your changes to the track are for the better, then yes. Please delete it. A day in the life went through the same issues and then you put it back with way less changes to it! We are not 100% happy with it but it is nowhere near as bad as MMT BTW - I think we know the difference between compression and reverb. I have your original MMT downloaded should anyone want to hear it! It sounds like it is in a cave .. weird compression. P.S. Another great proverb is Physician, heal thyself. Enough of this verbal jousting!
leflaw	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 2:06 AM If you want me to work on the track for real, I need the multitrack, or at least a wave file. I use yamaha ns-10 's and wavelab, and I double check on car speakers, electret headsets, and computer speakers. Your mixes are way too hot and clipping off the bat. I have to thin them out to make them sound in the same ball park as the other mixes. (Even Gene Hilberts, which are also hot.) So various compression settings leave digital artifacts that sound like echo or reverb. At least ear drums and speakers are safe. If you want a good sounding master, give me a mix that is 3- 4 db lower, put some reverb on those casio horns, and roll off some 2-3k highs on the horns, which is the weak point (Hilbert is right - they ruin an otherwise great track.) And try a megaphone eq on the "carnival barker" intro - it sounds weird with no effects. All IMHO, of course Ciao
leflaw	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 2:20 AM If you want a reference, try "You can't do that" by the Wiseguys. It was cut at Abbey Road, and you are listening to a 320 bit mp3 right from a CD (not CDR). Thats the reference I used. A Cd cut at Abbey Road into Yamaha NS - 10's. I also have a Pair of Quad ESL- 57's in the closet, if I need a microscope. And remember, you are listening to mp3's of mp3's( unless you sent me a wave file with yousendit.com)
leflaw	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 2:44 AM Test for successful master - Your ass must be moving and your ears not bleeding.
NosmoKing	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 3:46 AM We dont want you to work on the track at all based on what we and so many others online and offline feel about your remix. Please remove both A day in the Life and Magical Mystery tour! We as a collab team are no longer interested in being part of this project!
leflaw	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 4:41 AM I am getting conflicting instructions on these two tracks. Define "we".
rolar3	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 4:47 AM I speak for myself.....I DO want the cuts on the album and I DO prefer them as close to the original as possible. I am flexible. Hopefully we can work this out....
NosmoKing	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 5:00 AM Mike and I - Two thirds of this collab define "we" Majority asks that it be removed. Working this out (as Rocky said) means you revert the songs back to the original state, with only minor changes, eq, Normalize etc to align it with the rest of the songs! The reverb or compression method you used that created this problem needs to go! It isnt only our tunes you have done this too, but Mike and I are only concerned about ours!
leflaw	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 5:26 AM I don't care about majority. You three have to work it out. Any co- author has a a right to publish. And I won't remaster them. You will have to do it. Listen - every other track submitted except yours is interpretive of the Beatles, not just re-recordings of the same arrangements with new vocals. They are a lot easier to master as a unit, even from Mp3's, since there are no sonic expectancies. Yours are set up to sound as much like the original as possible, so a goof stands out more like a sore thumb. In other words, mistakes in performances or levels and eq sound more amateur. Imperfections in performances can be fixed on the multitrack, but if you won't or can't, then the only tool left to me are digital compression, reverb, eq, effects or editing. I won't put out a track with casio sounding horns when the rest of the track sounds slick, unless the juxtaposition was the point. Its either Phil Spector time, or move on. Vistache? My wife laughed when the horns came on. THATS THE PROBLEM WITH THE TRACK. Whats your solution? The main issue facing me now on a few tracks, not just yours, is what to do about intonation and poor phrasing issues? Send them back for dubbing and put them on Vol 2? This is proceeding with you or without you, no pun intended. And your mix must co-exist with one from Abbey Road. If its too loud, it gets softened; Abbey Road won't be made louder to compete. I'll let the three of you decide how you want me to procede. No skin off my back, really.
leedsquietman	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 9:56 AM If those horns are Casio keyboard horns, give me the Casio keyboard !! They sound synthesized but to a higher synthesized standard than most GM devices or plugins. Do you think it's realistic of your project to require a professional horn section recorded in a great 'room' otherwise the track is binned ?? Many of the other tracks are recorded on Fruity Loops and 4 track tape machines with hiss, so should they be rerecorded at Abbey Road too ? This idea started off as a fun project, not a professional sound studio wankathon. I think you have to respect the original artist's wishes to a certain degree, I heard both the original mixes of this and some others like Gene Hilbert, that sounded over compressed, over reverbed after being remastered. What processes are you using on the remaster ? Are you taking each track one at a time, analysising it, balancing frequencies, carefully using the right type of compressor in minor judicious amounts, or are you throwing it through a one stop shop preset algorithm ? To what standard are you mastering this project ? K-14 or something else?? What average RMS are you looking at for the disc, you're saying people are sending you files too hot then you are compressing them and making them even louder and even more dynamics is being sucked from them, hence the comments. NS-10's are no longer a standard, even when they were used, most Mastering Engineers knew their flaws and never claimed to use them for their flat 'true picture' frequency response. While using Ns-10's is fine, you should reference at least 2 other types of monitor speaker, or at least burn a CD and play it in a boombox, car stereo and home hifi and tweak from there. I know there are plenty of good songs and many choices for your album, but no word of a lie, Magical Mystery Tour and A Day In The Life are my two favourite songs and they come from people who are still active and care about this site and who deserve a little respect.
GTOriginal	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 10:02 AM You can teach a bear to dance, but why? - Russian Proverb
leedsquietman	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 10:06 AM The Beatles used Mellotrons (very noticeable as the flute sound in Strawberry Fields Forever) and George Harrison bought a Moog Modular synth which is heard in 'Here Comes The Sun' as that flutey sounding little thing in the last verse and chorus. Should they have Strawberry Fields Forever and Here Comes the Sun binned and rerecorded with professional flautists ??
leflaw	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 12:30 PM They stick out in the mix. Period. Needs a remix. Nobody called for an orchestra. You can make casio horns sound fine if you you use the right levels, eq and effect. I listened to this stuff on several sets of speakers, including IMF monitors, several car systems, headsets, etc. Even checked the phase. I know that NS-10's are not "accurate", especially in the low bass without a sub, so I try to account for that by lightening up 3-4 db below 80 hz.
leflaw	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 12:40 PM BTW, Hilbert sent me remix to work with. You were listening to the old mix.
leedsquietman	Date: July 5, 2008 @ 1:21 PM