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Israfel	Date: July 14, 2008 @ 4:38 AM http://www.apathyparty08.com/
Tattoomom	Date: July 16, 2008 @ 10:48 AM arsed?
Israfel	Date: July 16, 2008 @ 1:38 PM arsed!
Opossum	Date: July 18, 2008 @ 5:58 PM That's an Aussie expression.
prettymusicgurl	Date: July 18, 2008 @ 6:00 PM roflmao
SionWaldramino	Date: July 18, 2008 @ 9:11 PM I'd vote for them, but...meh. Whatever.
GeneHilbert	Date: July 19, 2008 @ 3:46 AM I'm apathetic about apathy & global warming. Get off of your lazy ass and do something – don’t wait for a politician to give you another entitlement. This planet and all planets and the Sun are cyclical by nature. It gets hot – and it gets cold…. Get use to it……..
zedsalt	Date: July 19, 2008 @ 4:01 AM Wow. I thought the people trying to deny mankind's role in climate change had all gone the way of the dinosaur...but, y'know, when I stop and think about it, most of the people who I've known who held on to that belief for any amount of time also don't believe dinosaurs ever existed, so the metaphor is kind of lost on them.
killoFunk	Date: July 20, 2008 @ 3:11 PM Funny thing about science... consensus has nothing to do with it!!! I just wish there was an icon for ROFLMFAO...
zedsalt	Date: July 21, 2008 @ 3:41 AM Science...the modern day business and society of the scientific community...seems to have very little to do with...well...science. My mind is repeatedly blown by just how petty, small-minded, back-biting, etc. the people who may be our best hope are. Most recently, I was reading an article about Peter Duesberg (one of the people that discovered that cancer can be caused by a virus, one of the first people to map a retrovirus gene) and how...if he had been more gentle and demure in presenting his assertions...AIDS might be curable today. He has gone back to cancer research now, but because he is, by all accounts, difficult to work with, he's pretty much working in a vacuum. Look at all the death that might be/have been avoided if these great minds "played well with others".
zedsalt	Date: July 21, 2008 @ 3:41 AM AIDS and cancer in the comedy forum- man, I sure know how to bring the funny.
GeneHilbert	Date: July 21, 2008 @ 4:38 AM Changes on Neptune Link Sun and Global Warming Skeptics of man made global warming have found further support in research linking solar output with the planet Neptune’s brightness and temperatures on Earth. The findings appeared in a recent issue of Geophysical Research Letters. The authors of the article, H.B. Hammel and G.W. Lockwood from the Space Science Institute in Colorado and the Lowell Observatory in Arizona, note that measurements of visible light from Neptune have been taken at the Observatory since 1950. Those measurements indicate that Neptune has been getting brighter since around 1980. And infrared measurements of the planet since 1980 show that Neptune has been warming steadily as well. The researchers plotted on a graph the changes in visible light from Neptune over the past half-century, changes in temperatures on Earth during that period, and changes in total solar irradiance. The results: The correlation between solar irradiance and Neptune’s brightness was nearly perfect; so was the correlation between changes on Earth and solar output, according to a report on the research appearing on World Climate Report, a climate change blog. When the sun is more energetic and putting out more energy, the Earth tends to warm up, and when the sun cools down, so does the Earth,” World Climate Report notes. “The Hammel and Lockwood article reveals that the same is true out at Neptune — when the sun’s energy increases, Neptune seems to warm up and get brighter . . . How is it possible that the Earth’s temperature is so highly correlated with brightness variations from Neptune? The news from Neptune comes to us just weeks after an article was published showing that Mars has warmed recently as well. If nothing else, we have certainly learned recently that planets undergo changes in their mean temperature, and while we can easily blame human activity here on the Earth, blaming humans for the recent warming on Mars and Neptune would be an astronomical stretch, to say the least.
killoFunk	Date: July 21, 2008 @ 1:25 PM Hmmm??? That reminds me of something http://www.dmusic.com/forum/currentevents/28545
zedsalt	Date: July 22, 2008 @ 3:47 AM And the percentage of the sun's light reaching the surface of the Earth took at a nosedive at the start of the Industrial Age. As one looks at more recent figures, it becomes obvious that we are increasing this rate exponentially as time goes on. September 11th, 2001 provided a once in a lifetime (let's hope and pray) opportunity to see what would happen to the amount of sunlight reaching America without its usual thick coating of highly reflective jet contrails. At a research center outside of Los Angeles, the amount of light increased enough to raise the temperature enough that, were it to happen worldwide, would leave the building where they were taking the readings under thirty feet of seawater. The fact that other planets are warming at a similar rate as Earth without corresponding atmospheric changes leaves little, if any, room for doubt. Nature, God, Existence, et al has a way of taking care of itself. For instance, cures grow in close proximity to where diseases develop...until/unless we humans start to tinker with them. And maybe that's another example of inevitable natural balance- we'll just comfort, convenience, and ignore ourselves right out of existence.
Opossum	Date: July 22, 2008 @ 4:03 AM Well, considering nearly every single business here has all of their inside lights on all day and all night (even buildings of businesses that aren't even in operation), perhaps they should consider turning a few off now and then, especially when not a single person benefits from those lights being on when everything is closed up.
GeneHilbert	Date: July 22, 2008 @ 4:39 AM http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24036602-25717,00.html
zedsalt	Date: July 22, 2008 @ 5:17 AM The people that Andrew Bolt cites as experts and the people that I cite as experts are, for the most part, the same people. The big difference is that their conclusions are polar opposites to Bolt's. The first word that I read regarding temperature change on other planets in our solar system was...twice...in articles titled "Why (fill in the name of planet) Warming IS Proof of Global Warming", or words to that effect, written by people who collected the data, and presumably, who wanted to avoid Bolt's style of "Who are you going to believe: me or your damned eyes?!?" (or thermometer, as the case may be) article. I enjoy Andrew Bolt's standup comedy routines, but when he tries to play scientist, it really isn't funny.
GeneHilbert	Date: July 22, 2008 @ 7:56 AM The fact remains this planet has been hotter and it's been colder. We have enjoyed about 10,000 years of relative stability. There are no carbon hot spots in the atmosphere which would be a clear indication of warming. The most amazing part is that the global warming crowd doesn't even want there to be a debate. They have no proof to back up their hypothesis. Just innuendo, intimidation and name calling. Wanting it to exist does not make factual........ The sky is not falling………
GeneHilbert	Date: July 22, 2008 @ 8:56 AM http://election.newsmax.com/busted_185.html?s=al&promo_code=665F-1
zedsalt	Date: July 23, 2008 @ 3:42 AM It's difficult to have a reasoned debate with people who refuse to accept basic methods and units of measure. Having both a recognizable name in the scientific community and a complete disregard for public welfare can be hugely profitable, but in the end, it's still a bunch of old rich white guys arguing against thermometers, photographs, tape measures, etc. "Wanting it to exist"? Wow. I don't even know how to respond to that. Is this really how you think non-denialists think? By the time of Bolt's article of fourteen, fifteen years ago, a worlwide panic had successfully decreased the hole in the ozone layer. Um, wait, how should I put that so you don't dismiss it entirely? "The supposed hole in the ozone"? "The hole in the theoretical 'ozone layer'"? Well, however you word it, fewer children in smaller areas of South America were suffering radiation burns from playing outside for more than twenty minutes at a time. I have to respectfully disagree with you if you think the people with the facts and figures on their side found that disappointing.