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Too Many Covers

SplitIndecision	Date: June 27, 2004 @ 3:36 AM Too many bands are listing covers and its talking away form the bands who are playing money to get there original music on the site.
chrismacmanus	Date: June 28, 2004 @ 6:41 AM Covers don't always bother me too much. They do bother me when they are poorly done versions with no attempt to give a different angle on them. I've heard some really bad (mainly acoustic) covers with terrible singing in some places and don't see what purpose they have on a site like this. If you're gonna cover, it has to be up to a certain standard. The whole beauty of a site like this is originality and providing a forum for artistic expression. So pleeeeease, if you're gonna cover, give us a different and interesting slant on it - not just stuff you'd regularly hear in the corridors of college dorms!!!
kingo	Date: June 28, 2004 @ 1:35 PM That's my cue! Red Rubbin' Ball (cover) - hifi Red Rubbin' Ball (cover) - lofi Okay, now that that's over with... first off, I don't see how any bands listing covers takes anything away from the bands who don't have covers here, paying or not. Don't get it. Second, there are indeed some pointless covers here. Third, the most irritating thing to me is when people post covers and don't indicate that they're covers. Fourth, who's got the marbles?
DevonPowell	Date: June 28, 2004 @ 7:03 PM /me breaks out the marbles. I get the cool cat eye with the white ribbon! Covers don't do much for me, unless they do something for me. The best thing about Dmusic is, if you don't wanna listen to it, don't press the button.
dicktruth	Date: June 28, 2004 @ 7:16 PM I don't mind covers of songs, but when I see "Sum41 cover In too deep (solo)" it really gets on my tits. There should really be a rule about that stuff. It doesn't help artists, it doesn't help Dmusic, it doesn't do anything for anyone.
johnnygnote	Date: June 28, 2004 @ 8:25 PM If you don't like covers don't listen. If you want to support the paid customers, go to their sites and listen to them. It's very simple, you have the power to control your habits but not the ones of others.
onewhodreams	Date: June 29, 2004 @ 12:45 AM I'm kind of a cover junkie and I enjoy hearing other ppls versions of covers too
djfacemachine	Date: June 29, 2004 @ 12:54 AM i like covers that do something cool with the original. just just a note for note rendition of some other band's song. i like to hear someone add their own special touch to it. technicolour has a really cool pink floyd remix and really exemplifies what i think a cover should be. http://technicolour.dmusic.com/
LordAndrew	Date: June 29, 2004 @ 1:05 AM I agree that covers are kinda ruinign the site. I mean its one thing if they're actually sincere covers done by a full band but 90% of them are some kid with his fender squire and a 4-track covering a 4 instrument + vocal composition and these fill up the top 20 just based on people listening to them out of curiousity. I dont think theres much to do to stop it other than telling kids to stop flooding the site with shit.
sinai	Date: June 29, 2004 @ 3:59 PM bah, taste is taste, let people play what they wanna play
robbydadrummer	Date: June 29, 2004 @ 4:18 PM i don't do covers...
soundsseeker	Date: June 29, 2004 @ 10:12 PM saw 311 on letterman last nite... they did their cover of Cures .Love Song... they made money and the audience loved it.. that is what is important..whether it is a cover or original the audience is the ultimate determinator (new word ha-ha) ... some lack the courage to go it alone in the beginning and others feel its best not to follow and be judged on anothers performance.. As for me... Original I love... Covers attract me by either being right on target or by offering a fresh look at an old tune. ..if i like the tune 1. Right on target (hard work)or 2. Different slant.. if i didnt like the original 1. Different slant... gives me the chance to maybe like it the second time around... information overload...
LordAndrew	Date: June 29, 2004 @ 11:32 PM Are you fucking high?
SplitIndecision	Date: June 30, 2004 @ 4:07 AM Covers are not supposed to be uploaded without the expressed written consent of the songwriter. Its says that when you sign up, besides, if you wanna hear cover songs go to your local bar that pays cover bands to play other peoples music. Covers are cool, I love covers, but they dont belong on a site like this it look unprofessional. Garageband.com will not allow covers and purevolume is really scetchy when it comes too it, I guess thats why they have more labels looking at bands from there...
kingo	Date: June 30, 2004 @ 7:31 AM SplitIndecision: From the DMusic FAQ: "Q. May I upload covers (songs written by other composers)? A. Yes, DMusic has licenses with the two major songwriting associations, BMI and ASCAP, that allow for that." And you should probably shove garageband up your neckhole. That place pretty much sucks. Been on there for years, never got any kind of feedback as useful as what I've gotten here.
pog	Date: June 30, 2004 @ 8:02 AM Actually, playing covers and posting them on this site is allowed, provided they don't involve direct copies of another person's copywritten work. If you post the latest eminem song (or whoever) then it will be deleted, and you may have your account suspended. For example, posting your own remix of a commercial artist's work is not allowed if that's what it obviously is... if you do a cover of a bands work, and don't ask for money for it, then that's fine. If you do a cover of it, make money and don't have an agreement, or pay royalties to the artist, then you can expect to get sued by that artist.
Svensta	Date: June 30, 2004 @ 8:07 AM Thank you for the correctly identified DMusic policy, Halaka. Honestly, I do not understand this vicious attitude against ANY form of music. Do you mean to tell me that you are the arbitrary judge of what is quality and what is not? "but 90% of them are some kid with his fender squire and a 4-track covering a 4 instrument + vocal composition " And what makes you or anyone else a whit better? Sinai said it best, the rest of you ought to look into your value system. Your music is not worth a bit more than anyone else's on here. The minute you honestly think its so, you are an enemy of the community. This is about musical expression, not the expression of some halfwit ideas.
Emosideproject	Date: June 30, 2004 @ 9:37 AM If you cover songs people know, and you do it good, then the people like it then theyll have a better chance of listening to your orignal songs. youre going to like a song you know better than one you dont.
soundsseeker	Date: June 30, 2004 @ 10:28 AM No... an asshat sometimes but no..
chrismacmanus	Date: June 30, 2004 @ 10:40 AM I agree with the comment that this site is about musical expression, but it helps if that expression is original either in the writing and performing of an original song, or an original and somewhat different interpretation of someone else's song. I have nothing against a lot of covers, but the best ones usually are the result of someone personalising them - and in doing so giving personal interpretation and expression Let's keep the covers as far away from a karaoke rendition as possible.
Svensta	Date: June 30, 2004 @ 11:10 AM It's simply your opinion, and you ARE entitled to it, just don't expect yours to have any extra validity with anyone else or to be the basis for an objective system of judging worth. I hate when people have to JUDGE music. Frank Sinatra never wrote a single song. Essentially he just did covers and renditions. He never should have recorded a single album.
Pagan	Date: July 1, 2004 @ 5:37 PM I hate covers but the group "me first and the gimme,gimmies" totally rock.
johnnygnote	Date: July 1, 2004 @ 7:25 PM I kind of resent th attitude here about Cover's and "Bar Bands" I was in "Bar Bands" and played many a night to drunken slobs screaming for BS music but I also mad a nitch for myself and eventualy gained an audience who woould listen to what I wrote and wnated to cover for myself. Some of best tunes were covers. "Everybodies Talkin" is by Fred Neil and was covered by the late great Harry Nielson (who was an outstanding songwriter in his own right)it was used in "Midnight Cowboy" and became a big hit for him, in fact it pretty much launched his career. A few of the earliest Beatle songs were covers, hell many great artists have covered songs by known and unknown writers and made them hits. I also resent the stereo type of the "some kid with his fender squire and a 4-track covering a 4 instrument + vocal composition " I'm here to tell you that all of us started somewhere, nobody is a virtuoso at birth (except Mozart)and that "kid" could end up a star while you're still complaining about covers. Even though I write my own tunes and have since I was 13 I've decided to post a few covers,
dicktruth	Date: July 1, 2004 @ 7:26 PM w3rd \m/
johnnygnote	Date: July 1, 2004 @ 7:30 PM Cold Missouri Waters by James Keelaghan (used by permission> I'm Going to Go Back There Someday Gonzo's song from the Muppet Movie, Nobody Home by Roger Waters Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club by :john: and :paul:" id="104954">Cold Missouri Waters I'm Going to Go Back There Someday Gonzo's song from the Muppet Movie, Nobody Home by Roger Waters Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club by and
SplitIndecision	Date: July 2, 2004 @ 3:08 AM Ok thank you for setting the record straight! I dont hate covers, lord, we play covers! I am just not in agreement that a good chunk of the songs on the top 40 are covers. I still think it looks very unprofessional for the site in my opinion. Maybe the best solution would be to have an original music and covers sections to help everone out?
johnnygnote	Date: July 3, 2004 @ 12:05 PM Split, that's a good point and a good suggestion I see where your at, no bad blud
SplitIndecision	Date: July 4, 2004 @ 1:36 PM No bad blood ment, it was totally an observation. I think it would help Dmusic out as well.
moam	Date: July 15, 2004 @ 8:09 PM I hate it when there's an awesome song I am practically in love with and then I realize that it's a cover of some artist with real musical talent from a long time ago. I basically hate bands that aren't original. I prefer music I have never heard before than music that should be credited to like the beatles or something like that... But oh well. People like doing covers because it takes less work and people are pretty lazy. Also music nowadays has been sucking more in my opinion.
Composer52403	Date: July 16, 2004 @ 7:44 AM If a group or individual cannot record a song without making it sound like the recording was the first time they saw the piece, maybe they had better not do it. It takes down the quality of the music presented here, that of others as well as their own. People need to provide feedback to the artists early in the song's appearance, but it needs to be constructive. "It sucks" may be a great summary, but WHY does it suck? Are the harmonies all wrong? Do the instruments sound like third graders with a month of lessons are playing them? Are the vocals not good? There are lotsd of things to consider, for sure!
fighterpilot	Date: July 16, 2004 @ 7:57 AM well i've done a nirvana-polly cover, and never thought abt if it was diff from the original, etc, etc. i just did it coz i felt like it and loved the song. if u dunt wanna listen to it, well then dont. simple? if sum1 hears a cover, says "wow i remember how kewl that song was" and goes back and listens to the original, then i think thats pretty kewl coz its a tribute to that band
dicktruth	Date: July 22, 2004 @ 12:04 PM SplitIndecision - that's a great idea. Something to think about for the people who run the site
AppleJuice	Date: August 7, 2004 @ 11:08 PM I'm gonna do all covers from now on. Tool Laterlus cd.... Here I come!