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I have to admit I'm not all that comfortable with the new Shout box rules?

shutyatrap	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 7:50 AM No Promotions??? So I gather it may mean no posting of promotions of your songs. This I have done on the community Shout box since I came to this site. (Bloody desperate for attention I admit) It allows you to find people who are new who really want to be listened to that you would otherwise have never even known existed?? I guess now I never will. Oh yeah the Promotions and Advertising forums are better??.... I guess its may have to be?? Still I put something up about listening to anyway who wants a listen. Not taking off or have almost any on the page yet?? Perhaps requests for listens should be posted on the complaint forum, as that’s always really popular…lol Look I think I understand the idea behind it. I am sure you admin people would have some pretty extreme things that get posted on peoples sites that really piss some people off. I guess it would go beyond someone asking for another to listen to his or her songs right??
zedsalt	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 11:06 AM I have to agree- that's one awfully big Nuke for swatting such a tiny fly! But, I suppose that since I'm not one of the people who would be addressing these things on a case-by-case basis, I've no right to complain. Anyone and everyone who has been posting promos in my shoutbox is welcome to note me with same.
shadowself	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 1:33 PM I think it was more to try to slow down the "beatz" spamming that is a bit of a problem here. I don't mind at all if someone promotes on my shoutbox if that person has a) not copied and pasted the same message everywhere else, and b) has listened to my music in return.
jack	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 2:18 PM We've pretty much left it up to you to decide what is spam, and what isn't, save for a few obvious things. If you're happy with friends posting in your shoutbox, then that's fine, and the same applies for the community shoutbox: A post or two telling people you have a new tune up wouldn't really be classed as spam.. however, mass copying and pasting the same message in shoutboxes probably would. If you're new to the site and want to let people know, why not just post in the promotion forum where people might go if they want a few tunes to listen to? I mean, that's what it's there for, right? For promotion. Just my two cents
TameasDust	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 2:24 PM If you complain .. it is spam .. if you dont .. it aint
guitaroo	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 2:28 PM I like it sometimes when people who have just joined or are looking for more attention post their songs in the community shoutbox. I would never have found lots of cool artists if it weren't for the community box. The only 'spamming' that I find annoying is when someone wants you to listen to there new one and you've never interacted with them, and they've never commented on your stuff.
Distilled1	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 4:29 PM I think the issue was at least what I saw was the same song over and over every hour for days! in the comunity box.
anon321	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 7:13 PM i think tameasdust is being fair in stating that a complaint = spam. no complaint = everything is just peachy. of course, i doubt that anyone would mind having music promoted to them by friends. i don't even mind if someone new asks me to stream his/ her/ their music... it gives me more opportunities to be in touch with the dmusic community.
Rodrica	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 4:03 AM I was a little worried that it may put people off letting their friends know about their new songs too But I can see that the rule only applies to mass spammers which some people have found to be rather intrusive. I guess this way we keep everyone happy. I agree about the promotions forum...I'm as guilty as the next person for forgetting to look there for new tracks. Maybe it would help to have it more prominent on the forums page or maybe it could be promoted around the site more. To help those who are having difficultly getting noticed... I'd also like to see the promo slots (especially on the main pages) rotated a little more often (with priority to subscribers), plus perhaps a few slots on other pages for the introduction of newbies/non-subcribers. It is a difficult task to fairly promote over 29,000 artists...but hopefully with the site re-design some of these issues will be addressed Lastly (also regarding promotions)...I'd like to appeal to everyone - If you hear a great artist who doesn't get promoted much, then please give them a mention on you net page and/or use your "favourite sites" panel to link to their page.
pog	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 5:12 AM memo ?? :P :leopard:" id="226852">Those are really good points, Rodrica. b.t.w.... didn't anyone get my memo ??
imemine	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 8:41 AM I’m very happy to see that I’m NOT the only one to see this as not a good thing! Rock on DM’ers!
thesoloer	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 10:41 AM I know I think I wouldnt have ever found out who victorskull was if it werent for the shout boxes. When I just came here I was new and all and I was wondering like who is who and which artists are the best so I looked around in the community shout box and found out some really dedicated artists that wanted their music to be heard. I mean the artists that know their music isnt going to be heard are going to put their music under the promotions forum but who is going to take their time to look at it and get an honest opinion of a song when they could go to a community shout box page, click on an artist, look at a song, then check out some few other songs of his, which is better? I second rodrica.
TameasDust	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 11:46 AM Although I didn't account for an admin going from lack of food cause we haven't been FED LATELY.
Jennae	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 9:13 PM I think it is rather obvious as to what is a violation shout and what is authentic "listen please..new track" to someone that you actually interact with.. I doubt anyone that is befriending someone on DM is going to report anyone to the admins for in their shoutbox.. but then again sometimes ya just never know. and if you are concerned if what you do is or not, well admins are going to warn you and work with you as much as possible before they slit your DM throat.. just don't wh0re every shout box that belongs to people you don't associate with and there shouldn't be a problem.. just my
Woof	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 10:14 PM That's all useful information, and certainly fair enough. I'm afraid there still remains a problem, however. It's in the wording of the "notice" itself. If someone new to the site reads the conditions, I'm afraid that individual wouldn't "get" the information that we're passing among ourselves here. It creates an inner circle of permissiveness that both warns and confuses new users. Perhaps a more appropriate "condition" would read: "Please extend courtesy to our membership when using the shoutbox feature. Repeated posting of shouts that result in complaints by our user community may result in suspension of your account". How's that?
jack	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 10:18 PM Woof: I agree the wording could be better. I wrote it, and I guess it's the curse of being a programmer that I can't word things very well at all We'll see about getting the wording cleared up, if possible.
EchoMinor	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 11:16 PM i like the new rule, because i get alot of "hey your name seems cool...listen to my new tracks!"
TameasDust	Date: June 17, 2006 @ 12:35 AM like I said .. if they complain it is spam ... we can ask them not to do it again ... we can warn them not to do it again ... or we can ask them to the DMusic and watch them run in terror
BIR	Date: June 17, 2006 @ 5:18 AM I wish we could just delete shouts from our shoutbox. Thats what I would do. It seems like that would also free the admins from having to deal with this issue. leave it up to the user,and a block button!
ChillinBuzz	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 12:06 AM i'm hungry, pass me a tin opener
Saint	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 12:07 AM i just gave you some
Opossum	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 1:31 AM Moo
jewsus	Date: June 30, 2006 @ 7:11 PM Tameasdust : If you complain .. it is spam .. if you dont .. it aint yeah, they say the same thing about sexual harrassment. if a hot chick at work grabbed my balls i wouldn't complain, but if she was ugly i would. how's that for hypocricy? same goes for this topic...
jack	Date: June 30, 2006 @ 7:37 PM And if people don't complain and we step in, then it's classed as "censorship"
imemine	Date: June 30, 2006 @ 8:19 PM ¡Esto no es la censura! El poder absoluto corrompe absolutamente.
jack	Date: June 30, 2006 @ 9:12 PM Precisely!
celtaidd	Date: July 1, 2006 @ 3:59 AM How come, if its a Shoutbox, nobody SHOUTS! in them?
shutyatrap	Date: July 1, 2006 @ 6:55 AM Because if you are too loud you may get kicked out. Who started this stupid forum Complaint anyway. This is just silly. Steve
shutyatrap	Date: July 1, 2006 @ 7:30 AM I have to admit I no longer feel I have a problem now the rules are clarified better. I think everyone should get back to shouting in that fucking box and please if you can don't cut or paste and for hells sake make it original or you’re out!!!! lol This is all I have to say on the topic except. Listen to the Music of Steven Davies Listen to the Music of Steven Davies Listen to the Music of Steven Davies Listen to the Music of Steven Davies Listen to the Music of Steven Davies Listen to the Music of Steven Davies Listen to the Music of Steven Davies Listen to the Music of Steven Davies Listen to the Music of Steven Davies

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