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DigitalCP2003	Date: July 7, 2006 @ 6:46 PM I've been getting so pissed off at the use of the "N" word lately. It seems that everyone in the area I live in love that fucking word and have no problem saying it whenever they feel like. I hate that word and the meaning behind it. What is the problem with people in PA....... Are you all freakin ass backword redneck mother fuckers? Why the hell do you hate other people who never did anything to you? What is your problem? These same people claim to have love for god.. If you belive in god and love him,them you also must believe that he made us all. Therefore no matter what color,race,or religion we are all brothers and sisters. Give up the racist crap and love everyone. We should base our feelings of others on their actions and not what they look like... Sorry I had to vent.... I hate this crap and ask that all dmusic members ban together and try to set a good example wherever we go. Thank you for reading this. Adam
TameasDust	Date: July 7, 2006 @ 11:13 PM mostly it is used in one genre of music and usually for shock value ... something like mature content ... it is only acceptible between people who use it in their everyday language ... people outside their social circle would be called bigots if they used the term not mentioned
Fraser	Date: July 7, 2006 @ 11:21 PM The only place I ever hear that word is from Black people on rap music videos. Nobody else says it. Around where I live, we dont have 'black vs. white' racism. We have native vs. white racism. The natives are really picky and tend to do a lot of annoying things because they think the land is theirs. We, on the other hand, stole it from their ancestors, but we all think the past has passed, so we think that the history doesnt matter. I think we all just need to calm down and feed Tameas some viagra
TameasDust	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 12:03 AM nah just paint everyone passionate pink
blubat	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 2:29 AM i dont understand the concept of the word. Why is it still bad? Why is it still unacceptable when its thrown in our face on tv, in movies, on the radio, absolutely everywhere. Some people are even proud to call themselves the N word. I really dont understand the concept. Why do i get angry or uncomfortable when some idiot says it on a bus. I shouldnt have to feel that way. My .02
K3VIN	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 2:30 AM if u didnt notice there are two different n words
thesoloer	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 3:48 AM Oh! I dont like how the word is used everywhere you see some people use it for other meanings. Other people tell other people for what it means for other different rationals too you see other people view people differently and they dont care what that someone else thinks. They are only interested in their own specific point of view, unless, the other person expresses interest otherwise, therefore. If they arent, then consider this. If someone discriminates against someone else the other girl or guy is most likely unable to stop that from bouncing off of them. You see the use of the "N" word can really be unfair these days.
Fraser	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 3:59 AM I dunno how long this will be up, but; http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/ The guy here talks a bit about racism in america vs racism in europe.
TruonGLe	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 4:15 AM 2 different n words, and 2 different meanings. but 1 thing remains the same, if a white person says either of em, hes dead.
GreatGooglyM...	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 7:51 AM ^Racist!
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 9:30 AM so it's ok for a black person to call a white person a honkie? but not for a white person to call a black person a nigger. yes, thats the word being discussed here, if you gotta say it, bloody well say it. what the hell is the problem with society today? everyone can do nothing but call each other names, every race and color seems to have a word tied to it that insults them but EVERY time i read about racism its USUALLY always blamed at the whites. i sure as hell didnt start it so i sure as hell dont like being tied into it. im white, i have black and asian friends, we have all called each other names in the past and we get over it. SO WHY THE HECK DONT YOU ALL GET OVER IT. whatever next...
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 9:38 AM next... i will have a barrage of hate from the narrow minded minority for having the balls to say "the N word" because you are all too chicken shit to speak about it. every fucking aspect of our lives gets insulted but WHY is that one word always gotta be something worse than everything else? just because there are two spellings of it, it aint different words at all so please dont come yelling at me with some shit about my being racist, BOTH words are from the same mold originally, one was spelt differently. just like COLOUR and COLOR or CENTRE and CENTER. same fucking words, different spelling. someone out there wants to keep the hatred up in our world and constantly digging up references to a time when NONE of us were born is just pure stupidity. rant over.
aflunky	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 9:50 AM Oh, why do I even bother...
aflunky	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 10:23 AM Hold on, let me clearify I was gonna type down this big piece on how this is the most feared word to say and the reasons why it is and try to Argue that it shouldn't be the fact that the word is used but how it is used. But after writing it all down, I looked at it and figured that I would get a lot of negitive blowback from it either because in it I actually used "Nigger" instead of "Nigga" or for the simple reason that I'm not black. So I deleated it. I give Buzz credit for putting himself out there, and I agree with him. In the words of Nicolas Cage "Slavery ended one hundred and thirty seven years ago. Move the fuck on!"
jess1561	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 11:15 AM Black people aren't the only ones that use the words "Nigger" or "Nigga". What about those referred to as "Wiggers", ever encountered one of them? I don't use the word, but then again I'm not racist in any way, and I don't believe in discrimination. Another thing that bothers me is people almost always assume that when you're talking about racism that you are talking about racism toward black people. What about rasism toward whites, asians, or spanish, or indian people? It's one thing to be racist and another thing to be racist and use racial slurs. I dunno...
Jennae	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 12:08 PM any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people: “Gun owners are the new niggers . . . of society” (John Aquilino). " so ANYONE can be a niggar.. reguardless to race although it is strongly adapted in the slang term for usage. " id="232165">technically... "Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people: “Gun owners are the new niggers . . . of society” (John Aquilino). " so ANYONE can be a niggar.. reguardless to race although it is strongly adapted in the slang term for usage.
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 12:36 PM I understand what you are all trying to say.. But what I'm talking about is that it seems that everyone in my area is saying it to be disrespectfull to a race. Here is an example... I was driving with my boss yesterday and there was some black kids playing in the street. And he yelled out the window "Get out of my way you little niggers". That is not even close to being cool.Unfortunitly I live in an area where shit like this happens all the time.
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 12:38 PM I hate typos...lol Also I'm not talking about the word nigga...I'm talking about the word Nigger.. There is a big difference...
Jennicide	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 12:41 PM that is about when you pull over and say get out.. your nigger ass is deprived of a ride that was very tasteless of him to do.. and I hate people assuming because you are white or NOT black that the term is just accepted for usage
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 12:48 PM Sorry about the dup in this post...... O and yes I'm white. And I guiess he figured that I didnt care because i'm white. But I wanted to tell heim to shut the fuck up...I dont care what color or race you are. My feeling towards others are always based on there actions and not there color or religeon.. By the way this asshole calles himself a good person..
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 12:54 PM Here is another good example.. I also do work for a Christian buisness. And that place only has white people working for it. When they were looking for help I had a indian friend of mine go and fill out an application. They turned it down. Then two days later asked me to never have a friend of mine ask for employment again.. I asked what the problem was and they said..."He would not fit in there because His race and religeon dont comply with the Christian way of life"... What the hell is that all about?
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 1:03 PM Look all I'm saying is that we should respectone another for our differences. I would hate to live on a planet where everyone looks the same,and belives the same thing........I'm sorry if it seems like i'm ranting and maybe I am. But I think no matter what we are all people with the same color blood. So whats the freakin problem... I'm not just talking about whites but racists of all colors.....hy do they hate so much? Like I said before......Sorry... but this really bothers me..
aflunky	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 2:09 PM Yeah, the racial shit is just straight up immature and shouldn't even happen, but in some areas it's unavoidable. The only real advice is to stand your ground, let the people around you know it does bother you and, because you do live in one of those areas, I'd try to grow a hard skin towards it. oh, and as for the double posts, try not to refresh on the page after a post
K3VIN	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 2:16 PM ElectronicChillinBuzz Date: July 8, 2006 @ 9:30 AM so it's ok for a black person to call a white person a honkie? but not for a white person to call a black person a nigger. yes, thats the word being discussed here, if you gotta say it, bloody well say it. what the hell is the problem with society today? everyone can do nothing but call each other names, every race and color seems to have a word tied to it that insults them but EVERY time i read about racism its USUALLY always blamed at the whites. i sure as hell didnt start it so i sure as hell dont like being tied into it. im white, i have black and asian friends, we have all called each other names in the past and we get over it. SO WHY THE HECK DONT YOU ALL GET OVER IT. whatever next... Rolls Eyes its not ok to call a white person a honkie and its not ok to call a black person a nigger but its ok for a white person to call a white person a honkey and a black person to call themself nigga cause its in fun you cant fight fire with fire with racism, it isnt ok by an logic that if someone does something u should be allowed to do something the same back that hurts more then just the person.
K3VIN	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 2:16 PM btw we are all the same race human
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 2:20 PM I didnt say its ok for anyone to call anybody anythisg. So i dont know what the fuck your even talking about.
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 2:25 PM HUGGGHHHHHH!! Sorry force of habbit. I hit refresh again... My bad.
K3VIN	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 2:27 PM are u drunk? because i was quoting chillin and talking about what he said with my point of view, and then expressing my own as well
TLK	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 3:20 PM Yo Digi, you should peep my song called Eracism It deals with this subject.
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 3:31 PM I guiess I misunderstood.. My bad..
thesoloer	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 6:24 PM k3, aflunky, and chillinbuzz, I agree with everything with what you said but I have something else that I want to say, myself. I have to tell you that discrimination happens every day. It happens when someone talks to someone they know and that someone talks to someone else who knows that someone, and that person, tries to ask, that person, how, and what else. They try to find out the best way, or what, is the most and absolute and profound possible to ridicule the other person.
LostYears	Date: July 8, 2006 @ 11:43 PM yeah i rathere agree with mister DigitalCP... just think about this when u hear those guys saying that, just think to urself that those guys are the lowest of the low, if u were to take that social class and place them in any other setting or scenario they would be quickly recognized as the self empowering narcistic and insecure bigots that they are. the fact that they do not think that of themselves merely proves thats what they are. and the fact that u recognize this places at least one notch above them, meaning u are smarter and most likely more creative than any of them. but as for my feelings on the "word" i think a nigger is a nigger (meaning the dictionary definition "Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people"; of which ur townsfolk would classify) and a black guy is a black guy, i dont take offense to any other racial slurs that i hear so i dont take offense when i hear that one. what offends me are the people who feel they have the right to call people niggers or speak to "they niggas" in most cases know almost nothing of the history and baggage carried with that term and the past that is involved in it. it makes me sick when i realize just how many people in this golden age of knowledge just dont care.
jewsus	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 12:03 AM i call my black buddy a nigger all the time. and he calls me, white trash, honkey, cracker, etc. i really don't think racial slurs should even matter anymore. i mean, who really cares? the word has lost meaning in the past 200 years, so get over it. people say shit now that you wouldn't think of saying back then, and its not just with the word "nigger". times change, words change meaning. and when terms like "nigger", "cracker", "injun", and "gook" get thrown around every five minutes the words hold less meaning. if you ask me, everyone should either A) stop using the words entirely or B) move the fuck on. i choose B.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 12:30 AM nope, it aint ok for anyone to call someone else something derogatory, i totally agree. hey, i got a bit of a belly, call me a fat bastard think you all should just mellllllow comes highly recommended. and if you dont smoke, you can always cook with it
thesoloer	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 12:43 AM Why are you discussing racism and using the "n word" in the same sentance. I think having a common figurative speaking problem is terrible. Using the N word in any way shape or form should be strictly prohibited. If you use it, keep it to yourself, and send it to your own god damn thoughts. The N word, is ridiculous, and puts people down all the time. I think that everyone here who is saying the N word in this topic is a jackass. If they are saying what they mean they should say what they mean without saying the word. I am very angry with them saying that, I do not care how respected, of a members that you are, but if you are to use the n word in a context, you are to use it wisely, no dont do that, you are only to make it and use it and refer to it as the n word and you are to only ask why people bring it up. If you question other people and ask them why they are saying the N word then you have lost all my respect as a user, as a person, and you have reduced to the lowest form, in my mind, if you say the N word, you are considered by me, to be an inanimate object. God damn anyone who uses the N word. Those people are lunatics, and they should not be trusted. Why should they be. They ask why something is wrong and then they create more problems. I dont like those kinds of people.
jewsus	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 12:58 AM and i don't like the kind of people that get their flowery panties in a bundle everytime they don't see eye to eye with someone else. and stop saying "the n word" for christ sake. the topic is about the word nigger, its perfectly acceptable to say it when discussing it. saying the word doesn't make you racist, especially when its the word that the topic is about. get over it. like i said, i have black friends. they know when i say "nigger" i'm not putting them or any other black person down. the only thing that's more annoying than people getting offended by a single word that hasn't meant the same thing in 200 years is whiney bags of douche who are so afraid to say it. its just a word, like "fuck". originally "fuck" only had one meaning. now it has many. hmmmm....i wonder why....maybe because (like i already said) WORDS CHANGE MEANING OVER TIME.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:01 AM if we have to specifically ban the use of one word, then how about all the other words we have discussed, thesoloer? this isnt just about one overused and misinterpreted word anymore, its about every word that is deemed racist. clarify your position, i for one would like you to say that all words deemed racist should be banned, if you believe that nigger should be banned also.
jewsus	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:07 AM honestly, i don't think any words should be banned. i think people should stop worrying about be PC all the time. if everyone could learn to relax and stop taking everything so seriously all the time we'd probably all get along better. either that or the complete opposite would happen and there'd be mass murders throughout the world. but hey, there's only one way to find out, right?
thesoloer	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:12 AM jewsus, you're completely wrong, in every respect. It is considered a racist word and discussing the word in those aspects are considered racist. They should not be likened to anything. the word should not be referred to in any context at all. People who bring up the word should be blasted but they arent. When they say that they are right in calling other people that, they should be blasted, for saying the word at all. The reason why most people say the word is for putting people down. By telling people the word is used correctly is a fucking biased sentance. I get infuriated by anybody using the word in the same sentance as spoken or sounded out or written. I dont care if something, is about it, but, there are somethings in life that you shouldnt have said that you should take back, but if you say them, you shouldnt say them again. If you keep looking at life and thinking that you can say whatever you want you will get stabbed in the back. I think people who call other people that should be the ones that are the losers and should never be talked to again.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:12 AM i am totally NOT politically correct and watching so many objects like Policeman (now officer or policeperson), manhole cover (drainage cover), blackboard (chalkboard...) and other words over here in the UK being forcefully changed by these unelected pressure groups riles me no end. plus i wasnt asking for all words to be banned, im saying that if the person who asks for ONE word to be banned WHY doesnt he ask for them ALL to be banned? is it because he hasnt totally understood the argument here or is it because he thinks the only racist word is nigger?
thesoloer	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:17 AM I never said that all words should be banned. Where did I say it? Where did I say that? Did I say that ALL word for being banned? I am only asking for that specific word to be banned. Are you even listening to what I'm saying? the word is an attack on society. When you're in a good mood someone will say the word to you and you'll feel down to their level. You think of things on their leve. People who say words like that should not be trusted and those words should not be replaced in common language. I dont consider the word to be english. It's a slang term for crying out loud and since when did it become common speech. I am probably going to be blasted for saying this but I think that I am right. The word should be banned. Of course obligatory words should be banned. People who deserve equal treatment should be punished, but it's that people should get equal treatment, in according to their own life, equal treatment differs greatly. IF you keep saying that word to someone, or those types of words, that make people feel bad, they will feel bad. It doesnt have to do with one word, like that, it has to do with other words that are synonyms for that words, or antonyms even, or even words, like that relate to it. I think any word related to racism should be banned. Race should not be a subject in this world. When you look at a test, and it says, to bubble in, if you are white or black, isnt that the same thing?
jewsus	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:31 AM no, its really not the same thing. i mean, yes, we're all human. and that's all fine and dandy. but we're not the same. their skin is darker. i don't know what kind of tests you've been taking that ask what race you are, but they're probably not legal, and anyways, those are usually optional on most legal applications. and really all its used for is census type stuff anyway. but that's not the point. the point is: using the word doesn't make you racist. so stop being so whiney about it. if you don't like the word don't say it. its not difficult. i mean, if you said "wow, my ass really enjoys being fingered", that could mean A) you're gay B) you're not gay, but like anal pleasure or C) you have a donkey that enjoys being stroked. saying one word, or even a phrase could mean many things in different contexts. so don't get so uppity about it.
jewsus	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:34 AM btw, you're totally right buzz. if one word is to be banned, they all should. otherwise we reach the point of hypocrisy.
thesoloer	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:36 AM we're all human? If you said that, then, that means, that you dont know who you're talking to you. You're all human on different levels. No one is exactly a human. They are human, but they are not entirely human, because they have ancestors that they were evolved from. Saying that all of us are human is a bunch of lies. If you consider the fact that we evolved from animals anything could be possible without even knowing it. Race is legal. What I'm trying to tell you is that if you are blaming other people for your own problems you are a jackass. You should not be trusted, and I think that you're a bad person. I think that people who collaborate with people on these thoughts and talk about how the word should be used "in context" are even worse! If you are cool you should remain cool. That word isnt cool. If you are offended by the word it is most likely because the other person brought it up. The person telling the other person not to be offended by the word may most likely not see anything. That person will continue telling that person they are wrong. That isnt called racial profiling. that's called being "wrong on all accounts." What are you implying by saying the word in the first place. Dont you have better things to say?
thesoloer	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:37 AM jewsuis, you're in the same leagues of jackasness as they are, I'd shut your mouth if I were you, and go beg for help from LOST YEARS too while you're at it.
Fraser	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:41 AM ... Are you on crack?
thesoloer	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:42 AM are you? Do I even exist? It doesnt look like I do.
thesoloer	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:43 AM Oh wait... I dont. And none of my opinions even matter. When they do, people tell me that they dont. Then, they lock my forum posts and delete them, and lock the thread, so I can be blackmailed.
jewsus	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:51 AM LOL. do you honestly realise how big of an idiot you are? firstly, we are all human. homo sapien. if you want to get all technical, that's what we are. there aren't any scientific levels of homo sapienism, so yeah, you're wrong. btw, what is "race is legal" supposed to mean anyway? its legal to race cars? its legal to be a certain race? what the hell are you even trying to say? do you even know what you're trying to say? do you possibly ride the short bus to school when you were a kid? i'm sorry, but you sound like a window-licking retard. also, "The person telling the other person not to be offended by the word may most likely not see anything. That person will continue telling that person they are wrong." is a retarded statement. what am i supposed to see? the light of god? really, that statement makes no sense. are you saying that i'm wrong for telling you you're wrong? wtf? then you're wrong for telling me i'm wrong. don't you see? that's a hypocritical thing to say. neither one of us is right or wrong, its opinion. and my opinion stands firm at "you're a raving overly sensitive shit nibbler".
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 1:58 AM i did not say you asked for all words to be banned, thesoloer, you have already made it clear the only word you want banned is nigger. fine. well, as a white person then, i am highly offended at being called a honkie, a word you DONT want banned. it is, by all accounts, in the very same mold as all the other racist words and your wanting to just ban ONE of a great number of offensive words shows a certain lack of consideration towards ALL races and colors that are affected by these words. oh, your opinions do matter, its when you start calling people jackasses or throwing other things at them, especially after you've campaigned so hard to be given a fair hearing on the site, makes some of us wonder why they bother giving you so much leeway. you are doing it again, digging yourself a hole. even i was prepared to let things go but you are ONLY interested in your opinion as long as you feel nobody is listening to it but i feel your opinion in THIS matter is biased, inconsiderate and, above all, an insult to those here trying to give a balanced and politically incorrect view. you got your freedom of speech but that doesnt give you the right to force your narrow minded opinions down our throats.
jess1561	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 2:30 AM just the word nigger should be banned you got defensive... You obviously didn't read what he said, (or maybe mis-intepreted) because you thought he implied that you said that you had said all derogatory words should be banned when in fact he said asked why the word nigger should be banned and not all racial slurs... I don't know if you know this thesoloer, but you contradict yourself quite a bit, and you don't make sense have the time. :hm: There are ways for you to express your opposition without calling people names, implying that they are crazy, and saying that they should not be respected. :dismay:" id="232304">I wonder why they are locked or deleted thesoloer So you can be blackmailed? Uh huh... sureee. Go back and re-read what you posted. You degraded alot of people in this thread. THAT is wrong. Why you are still here is beyond me. You said the use of the "N word" as you put it should be banned, but then when asked you why just the word nigger should be banned you got defensive... You obviously didn't read what he said, (or maybe mis-intepreted) because you thought he implied that you said that you had said all derogatory words should be banned when in fact he said asked why the word nigger should be banned and not all racial slurs... I don't know if you know this thesoloer, but you contradict yourself quite a bit, and you don't make sense have the time. There are ways for you to express your opposition without calling people names, implying that they are crazy, and saying that they should not be respected.
Fraser	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 3:03 AM I'm gonna blackmail you later on. I'm going to force you to sing a song dedicated to me, and me only.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 4:42 AM Fraser, you are starting to scare me
Fraser	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 7:14 PM You're right. A song dedicated Chillinbuzz too. No, wait. All of DMusic. No... The whole world!!! Mwahahaha.
DigitalCP2003	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 7:56 PM Thanks to all of you that took the time to read this. I did not want to start a fight, but to just get my point heard. The last thing I want to say is that In my opinion, all words that put down any race or religion are not good. Let's say you went for a job and you were turned down for the simple reason that you were a different color , or religion,your hair was curly,etc..etc...I would hope that in the very least it would piss you off..... Lets just chill out and respect one another for our differences....
jewsus	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 10:11 PM yeah dude. discrimination is wrong. i think we all know that. i'm just saying i don't feel like in today's society racial slurs mean much anymore. they just get thrown around too often. and really, its all about the way you say it anyway. people can tell if there's malicious intent. i dunno, i don't think people should get upset just because of the word, but the context of which its used.
jewsus	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 10:14 PM btw, sorry about the double post. i hit cancel cos i wanted to change a word. thought i caught it in time so it wouldn't get posted, but i guess not. if the first post could get cleaned up and deleted it would be awesome.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 12:02 AM i think you posted a great subject, CP, it is one that will continue for a very long time because most people do not want to discuss it or find ways to fix it, at least not solutions that will work for all.
desiderata	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 12:18 AM Jessiduh to TheSoloer: "Go back and re-read what you posted. You degraded alot of people in this thread. THAT is wrong." ... I personally don't see anything wrong with degrading a lot of people. As long as you're open the degradation of people of all races, creeds and colors.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 1:17 AM well obviously thesoloer isn't if he only wants that one particular racist word banned because that wouldn't put him under the category of "degrading all races, creeds and colors"... i wonder what the point of degrading every race, creed and color would actually achieve apart from even more hate...
thesoloer	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 1:43 AM Hmm... I am not targeting a select group of people who think this who are posting in this thread I want to target every person that thinks this. I happen to accord with my own views and my own thoughts do get other people agitated because they are different from the way other people think because I feel some reason I need to just stand out from other people and tell them that I'm right and that they are wrong and that they should fuck themselves. Oh, well, this just proves it. If you want to have a normal discussion with other people who are having conversations with other people, well, you gotta, tell them what you think and feel. I say this, because, you see, the N word, should be absolutely unnacceptable, and it has no place for society. The N word itself, should be the loser. The people who use it should be the people who are discriminated against and the ones who should be targeted for hate. They should be rejected, and hated from society, until they have a change of heart. I think the same should apply for various dmusic members that think the same.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 2:40 AM i believe there is no single racist word that stands out from the rest, maybe because there is no place for any level of racism. i am as offended by the use of a derogatory word against me as any other person would be, regardless of their skin or nationality, which is why i cannot accept that only one word should be banned, it should be all or nothing because those words can and do offend anyone and everyone. it would sound more like one rule for you and another rule for me, that in itself would not be fair or just, the same goes for anything of debate i guess.
EvilPicnic	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 7:26 AM Where I live the racism is mainly between Black and other different types of Black, or Punjabi and Tamil, or White/British and White/Irish. Racism isn't confined to being between White and Black, or White and everything else. Racist attitudes and other prejudices are difficult things to change, and just banning words will do very little - if someone wants to be insulting they will just find another word. It's not as if there aren't many about. thesoloer said: 'we're all human? If you said that, then, that means, that you dont know who you're talking to you. You're all human on different levels. No one is exactly a human. They are human, but they are not entirely human, because they have ancestors that they were evolved from. Saying that all of us are human is a bunch of lies. If you consider the fact that we evolved from animals anything could be possible without even knowing it.' = complete bollocks DigitalCP2003, that thing about the Christian organisation is pretty awful, '"He would not fit in there because His race and religeon dont comply with the Christian way of life"...' . That's a disgustingly unChristian attitude.
Saint	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 7:37 AM Just because someone says the word "Nigga" or "Nigger" doesnt make them racist.It doesnt matter who said it, white person, black person...its still the same fuckin word and it can be taken in alot of different ways. I have a group of friends that i drink with and we call each other niggas.Is that wrong because im white and not black? Hell one of the guys i hang with is black and he doesnt give a shit, he calls me nigga too. I have an online gaming group i play with in Counter Strike and the clan name is "NiggaPlease".They named it that cause its something you hear everywhere and its more funny than racist. Wether its just a common phrase, an immitation of a dave chappelle joke or term friends use among friends...its a popular word and just because someone who isnt black says it....dont assume there racist.
jess1561	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 12:39 PM yeah dude. discrimination is wrong. i think we all know that. i'm just saying i don't feel like in today's society racial slurs mean much anymore. they just get thrown around too often. and really, its all about the way you say it anyway. people can tell if there's malicious intent. i dunno, i don't think people should get upset just because of the word, but the context of which its used. Well said. ... Oh yeah, that reminds me... Were you referring to an Indian or a Native American? Either way it's just the way some Christians are. They're called Fundamentalists, Fundie's for short.
jewsus	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 4:07 PM thesoloer wrote : "The people who use it should be the people who are discriminated against and the ones who should be targeted for hate. They should be rejected, and hated from society, until they have a change of heart." so...the people that hate should be hated in return...so then the people that hate the haters should then be hated as well right? well then what about the people that hate the people that hate the haters? you see where i'm going with this right? you're full of contradictions man. its ok for one group of people to hate but not another? moron...
thesoloer	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 6:31 PM Ho, people rarely come up with good idears. They disavow anything seen as true as false.
InsaneWayne	Date: August 4, 2006 @ 8:40 PM heh... an old forum, but I havent driven by forums in awhile... Im against banning any words. All for a Mature Lyrics Warning tho' Words can never insult me, only the person using them. ("Sticks an' stones may break my bones...") No one looking at me gets my racial hertiage correct. Kinda a unique thing. Add Native hertiage to my children... If ya wanna be a racist that's fine with me, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Hang a big sign on yer house with "No Whites Allowed" and I won't come over either. I won't hate you for it tho, if ya wanna be like that, be like that peacefully and I'll be peaceful also. But plz don't practice unfair treatment to anyone based on whatever prejustice you have formed. I am often the victim of sexism. It's strange, I don't see much prejustice in the day to day world. I see a lotta gimme's tho'. Who got the job? The girl with the biggest rack. Who got the good junk from the store room? The boss's son's friend. Who got off easy in court? The judge's secatary's cleaning lady's daughter.... yepperz, "gimmes" are their own form of prejustice and much more seen then racism, sexism, ageism, and all those other -isms Be Well
Intergalacti...	Date: August 4, 2006 @ 9:09 PM mostly it is used in one genre of music and usually for shock value ... something like mature content ... it is only acceptible between people who use it in their everyday language ***acceptable
plungerboy	Date: August 4, 2006 @ 9:28 PM Because this is a music site, im not really happy about this post, but seeing as its here... Im assuming that the majority of you come from 1st world countries, where caucasion people are in majority, and you don't really encounter racism on a daily basis? In south africa, white people were badmouthed after apartheid and we are basically labeled as the scum of the earth, because "we" oppressed black people. Even though most white people in south africa were not guilty of these things. In south africa the word kaffer is used as a racial slur toward black people, and the fact is no matter what word you use, its why your using it that matters. Another point that id like to make is that anyone who feels offended by a word like that obviously has insecurities, and being in a minority I can definitely say that words are just words, actions are what count. If the colour of your skin starts determining whether you can get a job or not, thats when it's serious. The counter oppression that is suffered by minorities in my country is serious, but many of us are still able to laugh about slurs and stereotypes because it boils down to nothing but words. A word is just a word, dont be so damned insecure. If you are proud of who and what you are you wont let others take that away from you. Nuff said gotta go feed my pet giraffe

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