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GeneHilbert	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 9:51 AM What the hell is going on? "Who is the naughtiest Dmer?" - Now this thread is locked. For What....? Who lock it and why?
kingo	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 10:08 AM " id="234865"> "It's always something....."
Israfel	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 10:25 AM and yet the "DM poll for the ladies" goes on and on....
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 10:41 AM Forum Police, I've given all I can, it's not enough No idea why that thread was locked at all was nothing wrong with it...
kingo	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 10:41 AM Yes please somebody lock that one. We need a "request to lock threads" thread, so it can be ignored.
GeneHilbert	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 10:52 AM I've seen more censorship of this site in the past months then ever in it’s history. The one thing that has made this forum and this site what it is. Is our freedom of expression – regardless of bad taste or not – I seem to remember a particular someone refer to these ideas as “Words”. If we lose that ability to express ideas, or discuss topics; taboo or just simpleton playful bullshit - we lose everything. I see things here I don’t like – so fucking what. I’m a big boy – I might not agree or personally like everything I see here and if I feel like - I’ll say so directly, which in the past I have… Hence this posting; and that my friends - is the whole idea.
kingo	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 10:59 AM Nice to see you over here on my side of this particular fence all of a sudden, Gene. *
aflunky	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:04 AM You know Gene, That's why I respect you. You actually stand up for what you believe is right instead of going along with everyone else. I've noticed it too, that's why I hated posting threads in Devart, cuz eventually, some power hungry, ass kissing, deviant who had some admin privliges would always use a stupid excuse to shut the thread down. I also noticed whoever locked the thread never left an explaination as to why, usually the one who locks the thread would at least make a small comment on what is wrong with the thread.
kingo	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:06 AM No, usually whoever's been locking threads lately hasn't said a word about why until someone bitches about it and then there MIGHT be some offhanded, maybe-that's-an-explanation explanation.
aflunky	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:10 AM I don't believe that's fair, there really was nothing wrong with that thread, and I believe if there really was a valid reason why it was locked, the one(s) who locked it would not be afraid to to give a reason as to why it's locked.
Israfel	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:12 AM This side of the fence is kind of nice if not a little lonely at times. And well said, Gene.
imemine	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:17 AM To Gene!!!!!!!!
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:17 AM Nobody made a single mention about the last locked thread at all, even I am with Gene on this one, I fail to see the reason behind it
Distilled1	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:18 AM I don't know, and I'm mad ... I haden't made the list yet I recall a thread about to many of these orange bolts its just like government, to many of them can be bad.
jack	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:19 AM I have no idea why the thread was locked, but I have asked the other administrators about it and I'll post when I get a response!
aflunky	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:21 AM If there is no real reason given as to why it is locked, and if no one can think of a real reason why it's locked, then I think it should be unlocked.... ....Can we do that? Or is there some admin policy about unlocking locked threads?
GTOriginal	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:38 AM Right on Jack, thanks. There must be a reason, even if not apparent now. Censorship sucks, and I don't think that's where DM wants to go, but maybe I'm wrong, just another artist without a clue... Maybe there's too many chiefs in the tribe for one thing, and no admin control for another, meaning one person stumbles across something they personally don't like & can just lock it without any reason. This brings up an interesting question, are the bolt people accountable for what they do? If not, what happens when 2 of them disagree??? I see forum Armageddon coming down the line lol.
aflunky	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:46 AM Good point, but really only the admins could actually explain how that works. Maybe they can shed some more light on the subject.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:47 AM everyone is accountable, eventually. for whatever reason this happened will inevitably come to light but remember our voice does count, whether it appears to be listened to or not. censorship is most certainly wrong when there is nothing being said at the time that breaches the rules or infringes on the privacy or security of others, i hope i am not wrong in thinking that?
jack	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:54 AM For the most part, there are two levels of "authority". There are the people who are DMusic staff, and the people who aren't. It is important not to confuse administrators with staff ( [#4] Who are the Administrators? ) There's a unwritten rule that admins post to the other admins when an action like locking a thread or suspending a user is taken, although because this is not policy, no one is in trouble for not doing so. I have asked for information about the subject and I'll relay it back here when I receive it. That said, if it turns out the thread was locked for no good reason I should imagine there'll be some "heads rolling", so to speak. I would like to clarify that censorship isn't the route we're trying to take here, and never was. My apologies if it seems that way in light of recent administrative action on the site- also, another important thing to remember is that although it sometimes doesn't seem like it, we are human and we do make mistakes from time to time.
aflunky	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 12:01 PM We know Jack, and thanks for the info
jewsus	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 12:04 PM jack's a human?!?!? i thought he was a penguin...
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 12:09 PM it's just a costume
sinai	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 12:23 PM much like a scoobie or yogi costume, for instance
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 12:26 PM you remember that? careful, you are showing your age
sinai	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 12:27 PM i let nothing die...
jewsus	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 12:27 PM one of my buddies from college had a penis costume that he wore for halloween. it was pretty cool until his left nut deflated.
imemine	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 12:51 PM That guy sounds like a dick!
TameasDust	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 1:47 PM hunt ... who has the torches and pictchforks .. hunt
GeneHilbert	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 1:53 PM As in a pole vaulter.....?
GeneHilbert	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 2:23 PM Well, it does appear the peoples voices have prevailed.... the thread is now open for business once again..... Fancy That
imemine	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 2:29 PM Was there an answer given?
jack	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 2:37 PM We have opened the thread for now, since we didn't see it was in violation of any rules. I'm still waiting on a response - I'll post here as soon as I find out.
hantu	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 2:41 PM maybe an admin dozed off on their keyboard
K3VIN	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 3:32 PM who fucking cares its a stupid forum... people are dieing... its not like the world will change if ts opened or closed
GeneHilbert	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 4:09 PM Hey Moron....... wake up - put down the crack pipe......
GeneHilbert	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 4:26 PM jack Date: July 17, 2006 @ 3:37 PM ...... Easy now. jack - Date: July 17, 2006 @ 11:54 AM I would like to clarify that censorship isn't the route we're trying to take here, and never was. My apologies if it seems that way in light of recent administrative action on the site- also, another important thing to remember is that although it sometimes doesn't seem like it, we are human and we do make mistakes from time to time. So what the fuck Dude...? Is this your site now....? You making rules... or what......? Larry give you keys.... This is really starting to smell..... What say you......? The kid makes a joke and you reply “Easy now”……. Was that also a joke…….? I don’t think so. Here and now – play your cards……. Refer "Who is the naughtiest Dmer?"
Svensta	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 4:28 PM I just want officially say: I have no clue.
GTOriginal	Date: July 17, 2006 @ 4:36 PM * NOTICE: This thread has been locked from further posting (to prevent people from dying). *
BIR	Date: July 18, 2006 @ 10:34 AM I like this side of the fence too.. sometimes climbing over can be painfull,but its always worth it! Kingo,Gene
GreatGooglyM...	Date: July 18, 2006 @ 10:49 AM Interesting.
TameasDust	Date: July 18, 2006 @ 11:17 AM The squeekiest wheel gets the grease ... now will that be wd-40 or something heavier sir?
shutyatrap	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 6:03 AM KY Jelly please Tameas.
blubat	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 9:27 AM I STILL LOVE DMUSIC THANKS, THAT IS ALL.
zedsalt	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 10:46 AM Yeah, you really can't beat DMusic and high quality water-based personal lubricants. Both are brilliant inventions.
blubat	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 10:47 AM
GTOriginal	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 3:13 PM Umm... that would be butter.
BOWILLIE	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 3:24 PM ..carefull the gestapo may lock this one too.
LostYears	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 3:43 PM speaking of locking we still dont know why the other one was locked
jack	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 3:43 PM Neither do we.
kingo	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 3:45 PM Jesus christ, now I can't even rub KY all over Phil without everyone knowing about it. 1984 all over again.
desiderata	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 4:00 PM Hmm, do you have a thing for Dr. Phil or is that what you named your penis?
GeneHilbert	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 4:06 PM LOL
GreatGooglyM...	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 4:22 PM Hmm, do you have a thing for Dr. Phil or is that what you named your penis?
celtaidd	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 5:51 PM Step Away From The Topic!
blubat	Date: July 19, 2006 @ 11:10 PM Im phil! COME ON NOW. but yes i do also occasionally double for kingo's penis. I am not complaining.
kingo	Date: July 20, 2006 @ 8:55 AM Great jesus.
zedsalt	Date: July 20, 2006 @ 10:56 AM No, see, it's a pun; the correct spelling is "Dr. Fill".
kingo	Date: July 20, 2006 @ 11:11 AM He's the one they call Dr. Fill Good.
Israfel	Date: July 20, 2006 @ 11:39 AM um...EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
GeneHilbert	Date: July 20, 2006 @ 11:53 AM Dr. Fillemup
Distilled1	Date: July 20, 2006 @ 12:58 PM Dr. Fill MCrackin
blubat	Date: July 20, 2006 @ 3:08 PM all of the above, yes.
Etheracide	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 7:17 AM I've just read EVERY post in this thread..and now my head hurts!
Intergalacti...	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 8:00 AM ditto what a stupid thread
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 8:01 AM good job you didn't read Kingo's thread about 'This thread is more awesome than those other threads' as it is over 3,000 replies long...
BOWILLIE	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 8:58 AM it appears to be locked too..or couldnt post last night in it
kingo	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 9:07 AM Nah, that's just the way that thread gets, Bo. Everything you're posting will show up after the page finally flips. Takes about 10 "invisible" posts to do that.
Opossum	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 11:13 AM So my posts are there but "invisble"? Okay...
kingo	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 11:24 AM yes.
hantu	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 11:29 AM hopefully that will be fixed in the redesign.
GeneHilbert	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:02 PM So here we are again - What is wrong with the damn administrators? Why SimonWaldram would ever start another thread is beyond me. Why….. simply because every damn time he does it's deleted or locked. What the fuck is going on with you people.....? I'm really getting sick of this.......
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:05 PM ok the last one got way off topic ... and this is leading no where ... so its in danger also ... so there
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:11 PM calm down, Gene! which thread is locked?
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:11 PM Hopefully this will be looked into and avoided in future. SimonWaldram's voice and input is as valid as anyone else's and although he has expressed some critical opinions he was not being abusive or attacking individuals on this public forum. His postings should have been fine and I really hope the admins will discover what happened and inform him of the results and take steps to prevent future occurances of unneccessary locking/deleting.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:15 PM Hey TameAs, the new Arnie Schwarzenegger of Dmusic, you're gonna clean up this site !! 'Do you take uzi...' You should apply at Cubase.net for an admin job, you kick ass
GeneHilbert	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:18 PM Hell Chilly pick one ..... tameasdust - who gives a shit if it's off topic.... Every damn thread here has things off topic. Are you going to lock them all? Dude...... I have news for you - This not YOUR site...
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:20 PM tsk tsk ... so start another one ... its a free country
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:25 PM I already sent a note to simon about it and why ... all is kosher ...
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:25 PM now now, if anyone's gonna do the bitching, i do it better so shush, unlock the thread, shake hands, go down the pub, have a few drinks and let's.... get along... not in any particular order...
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:29 PM nope was being used as a platform to promote the ideas of a certain person and had nothing to do with the main topic which was an apology and why was a thread deleted ... simon can start another one ... cause he makes good topics and they are always a pleasure to read
GeneHilbert	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:31 PM On 7th Oct 2012, TameasDust said: tsk tsk ... so start another one ... its a free country How fucking juvenile....... Dude..... it's time for your tenure as admin to be over..... If this kind of childish bullshit is your idea of being responsive to the needs community and representative of your decision making...... It's time for you to go.
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:36 PM you win its open
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:42 PM party's over, boys and girls... go home and sleep it off
GeneHilbert	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:43 PM You are missing the whole point.. Look Dude.... I like you - I really do..... but you can't regulate a community like this and expect it to flourish. The craziness, and over the top antics is all a part of the charm of this place. Let the chip fall where they may. I read thing here that just piss me off…….. but hey I’m a big boy. People think and they express themselves. That is art and life. Deal with it and move on.
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 3:48 PM have done so and all is kosher and I ain't even jewish now lets have fun ... who wants to me first
Israfel	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 5:54 PM Maybe the problem is that actually too many people can lock/delete at whim. Should't there be some method of checks and balances that could, at the very least, give the "offending" party an opportunity to defend their position?
kingo	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 6:38 PM Hey, I know. Let's make it so when the people who are able to lock/delete a thread do so, they have to post a note about it somewhere where everyone can see so that it's transparent and everyone knows what's going on and threads just don't vanish/get locked seemingly at random. Wait a minute, that sounds familiar.
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 9:37 PM actually that is being discussed and will be implemented ... soon ... then we will know who to hang ... oh by the by like my rope burns .. they are all in fashion this year
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 10:54 PM There are. Maybe. Am I allowed to say if there is? or not? Shit.. I don't even know... maybe I better myself. * This thread has been locked by from further posting: reason - * I dunno... I think the format needs a little makeover... dancing elephants, perhaps?
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 11:02 PM I ain't cleaning up after elephants
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 7, 2006 @ 11:06 PM oh Tameas... i didn't think about that
zedsalt	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 10:46 AM Thanks, TD! You're only the second guy who has ever invited me to poke him with a stick, and frankly, that other guy seemed a little TOO eager, kind of creeped me out. I missed the second "r" in "like my rope burns" the first time through and was envisioning a Princess Leia [sp?] kinda hairdo. That creeped me out a little at first, too, but then I just laughed.
jewsus	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 12:41 PM here's a thought for the forum po po. why not just delete the post that's off topic? i mean, i don't see any reason to really ever lock a thread, unless of course the topic itself is abusive or such. i think people should be able to post in whatever thread they feel like, and if someone joins in on the conversation with meaningless ass babble, delete their post. that way other people that actually want to post their views on a topic can.
Rodrica	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 12:42 PM Seems as though a couple of my comments have been deleted too. But that's fine. That's the admins' prerogative - I'm sure they have very good reasons and ultimately they will have to sort out all the problems, not me.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 12:53 PM meaningless ass babble is what we like to do here !! We excel at it and it's harmless enough...
jewsus	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 1:01 PM well, personally i don't mind ass babble, even when it is meaningless. but i just feel like if off-topic posts are such a concern it would make more sense to delete the post rather than deleting or locking the entire thread.
GeneHilbert	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 1:32 PM Ass babble.... I love that There has always ass babble in the threads..... I dare say it would almost be impossible to find an unedited thread completely on topic. So What.....? What I've seen here lately is not simply a sudden concern for maintaining disciplined discussion...... Which for whatever reason was ever enforced this place would be a ghost town.... what a fuckin’ snoozefest that would be….. We; my friends are in the company some of the biggest smartass’ I’ve ever known……and it makes me proud……… You do me proud…. What I see is administrators running amuck.... If it ain't broke don't fix it.... Fix what is broke and there is plenty…. Just work on what you’re supposed to be doing and leave the debate and ass babble alone....
BOWILLIE	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 1:43 PM recap*..ass babble amuck snoozfest ghost town debateing ass babblers.. snoozfestering amuck running debating ass babblers.. i like that word.. ass babblers.. rolls off the tounge... ass babblers.......
GeneHilbert	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 2:51 PM And all quite nicely summarized by a flying pig.....
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 3:40 PM Gene, it's bloody 'amok' ... unless they're throwing mud around too, then amuck works and my ass isn't smart... it just smells that way.
TameasDust	Date: October 8, 2006 @ 11:08 PM I would run amok, but my amok is sleeping and I cant even take it for a walk

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