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Jennae	Date: January 24, 2003 @ 8:55 PM um it's called.......how the hell do I work the CUbase program?? every song basically was me learning to record for the first time... and use my program..... and i was unaware of how to work the effects at that time..... so eh you know...... some day I will remix now that I am getting it down to a science..... but like the album cover says... they are alll SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
sinai	Date: January 25, 2003 @ 2:38 AM exactly Jennae, all of my songz are done ina trial by fire system of learning cakewalk...i know about an inch of a mile long program...but hell thatz half tha fun
Jennae	Date: January 25, 2003 @ 4:57 AM you got it Sin!! Gotta be true to the experience.
sinai	Date: January 25, 2003 @ 5:09 AM ( mebbe im tha only one noticing that ppl have taken a biblical name and shortened it to sin...lol, fuckit, much more beffiting anyway)
Elu	Date: January 29, 2003 @ 10:48 AM Amen...
GrooveTonic	Date: January 29, 2003 @ 3:50 PM jennae, i don't like using cubase to record... I find it easier to record the .WAV files in another program and then import them into cubase. I find it easier to manage and customize how I orginize my files this way. import audio is how to do it if i remember correctly
GrooveTonic	Date: January 29, 2003 @ 3:50 PM jennae, i don't like using cubase to record... I find it easier to record the .WAV files in another program and then import them into cubase. I find it easier to manage and customize how I orginize my files this way. import audio is how to do it if i remember correctly
sinai	Date: January 29, 2003 @ 4:50 PM thatz how it workz with my prog anyway...
KayinOmega	Date: January 31, 2003 @ 1:44 AM listening to every song on my site 3 times a day shuld explain everything
RasMasta	Date: February 1, 2003 @ 4:42 AM My songs are my crapping pasting over a beat in Sound Forge lol...I don't equalize or anything...
Jennae	Date: February 1, 2003 @ 11:28 PM Um yeah I do import wavs as well..... I basically push that lil cubase to the limits trust me. Now if I cold just figure a clever way to store a shit load of audio files...damn them!
jkate	Date: February 2, 2003 @ 7:23 AM burn them to disc
jkate	Date: February 2, 2003 @ 7:23 AM burn them to disc
Alleagenz	Date: February 2, 2003 @ 1:49 PM Put em in data format on a disc, that way you could fit possibly all of em.
Kwest	Date: February 3, 2003 @ 11:57 PM hate to go back to the subject of production, although i have a producer i have recently been working with and we have different aspects on what my music should sound like and i spend hours on recording one song because he adds effects and othere things that i think makes the song sound bad and some of his ideas are as whack as some artist that should be door greeters for walmart...although he is the only producer around...should i Astop using him and delay production BKeep using him andlet him mold me? ha
Wordsense	Date: February 4, 2003 @ 12:48 AM ^its like this...in my personal opinion, i think the producers/beatmakers/djs should cater to the artist's needs, to a certain extent of course. if you're not happy with the way he's doin things, you should give him the boot and do it yourself, or explain to him how you want your music to sound. just a quick thought.
RasMasta	Date: February 4, 2003 @ 7:26 AM My producer works well with me...just I never have time to record with him!
Elu	Date: February 4, 2003 @ 10:20 AM I agree with wordsense Kwest...if all he or she is doing is adding effects and taking away from what you want then it is not good. A producer should definately work with you to expand your sound without detracting from it...they should help it grow.
haydenswall	Date: February 4, 2003 @ 1:36 PM Garageband.com, which I find very helpful due to the reviews. On the subject of production, for every comment that my production on a particular song sucks, there is another that says our production is what made the song. In fact, for just about every criticism on any aspect of any song, there is another listener that offers praise for exactly the same factor. The average person on the street is NOT a musician. Most of them could give a rat's ass how good the production is as long as they like the melody and can understand the words. Production is about 4th or 5th on the list of things you need to worry about. And let's not hear any whining about what equipment you do and do not have. Odds are that you've got better equipment in your living room or home studio than the Beatles and George Martin had when they did "Sgt. Pepper" or "Abbey Road." The only equipment that really counts is glued onto the side of your head -- your ears. If you like it, it's probably good enough." id="32189">Just my two cents here... I've got a few songs posted at Garageband.com, which I find very helpful due to the reviews. On the subject of production, for every comment that my production on a particular song sucks, there is another that says our production is what made the song. In fact, for just about every criticism on any aspect of any song, there is another listener that offers praise for exactly the same factor. The average person on the street is NOT a musician. Most of them could give a rat's ass how good the production is as long as they like the melody and can understand the words. Production is about 4th or 5th on the list of things you need to worry about. And let's not hear any whining about what equipment you do and do not have. Odds are that you've got better equipment in your living room or home studio than the Beatles and George Martin had when they did "Sgt. Pepper" or "Abbey Road." The only equipment that really counts is glued onto the side of your head -- your ears. If you like it, it's probably good enough.
milladrive	Date: February 4, 2003 @ 1:55 PM Nicely said, imo.
RasMasta	Date: February 4, 2003 @ 3:46 PM Nicely said Haydenswall
Wordsense	Date: February 5, 2003 @ 12:52 AM very nicely put Hayden
Kwest	Date: February 5, 2003 @ 3:26 AM what do you suggest i do for my music?
Kwest	Date: February 5, 2003 @ 3:32 AM /\ i don't have any means to record decently without using the producer..i plan on having a home studo by april
ChillinBuzz	Date: February 5, 2003 @ 3:40 AM Then spend every moment practicing and writing until April, and blow that producer best things come to those..... ..... who wait?
Kwest	Date: February 5, 2003 @ 4:07 AM i have a lot to do now for recording
Kwest	Date: February 5, 2003 @ 4:11 AM if you check out my site on here you'll realize that i'm new to the emceeing life and that ineed lots of time infront te mic
rapidhopeloss	Date: February 11, 2003 @ 1:10 PM My production is just making sure all the tracks are in sync, and maybe one or two minor effect tweaks." id="33156">I make mainly acoustic music, with some bass, some electric guitar, some piano. Since only the bass and guitar could possibly go straight onto the PC, it's always gonna have a "live" or "fuzzy" quality to it. But i think it works- if you have solid, squeaky-clean notes and instrumentation with no wrong notes or wobbling, your voice will sound bad in comparison. My production is just making sure all the tracks are in sync, and maybe one or two minor effect tweaks.
Rico111	Date: February 11, 2003 @ 5:26 PM It still comes down to one thing "Song Writing" you can produce crap well as Mcarp said or just have a "great tune" live and from the boom box. Give me "good" and I will find my way to the middle, as far as the A&R people, well Elu, I got a letter back from "Alligator Records" it said, "You have an attractive voice and some fine chops but it is not the "Blues" style we here are looking for" In other words, nice try! Better production could have not done more. Rico "Back To the Drawing Board"!!!" id="33175">Hello, I am not exactly new here, my name is Rick and I am the Ellsworth from Jeremiah Ellsworth. As far as the production thing, I have to say this is a seedy situation. I would say production is as easy as what guitar sound to use and when, which keyboard sound, a rest, or any mirad of other things. This takes sometimes another person or "Producer" of trust to say...." I want a Steely Dan sound on the guitar and a strat on one rhythm through a Fender and a perfect matched rhythm of a PRS through a Marshall. It still comes down to one thing "Song Writing" you can produce crap well as Mcarp said or just have a "great tune" live and from the boom box. Give me "good" and I will find my way to the middle, as far as the A&R people, well Elu, I got a letter back from "Alligator Records" it said, "You have an attractive voice and some fine chops but it is not the "Blues" style we here are looking for" In other words, nice try! Better production could have not done more. Rico "Back To the Drawing Board"!!!
Quadrixx	Date: February 11, 2003 @ 7:52 PM MMmmm , ... I LOVE seeing the soul and passion THAT promoted above the package !!! sounds like a team of heaven
Elu	Date: February 12, 2003 @ 11:44 AM Hey Rico111...that is exactly what I was talking about. A&R people don't know what is going to be big...they are just going on their personnal taste. And you're right, Production has nothing to do with it, BUT!... if your music sounded like shit your chances are even less. Fu@k the A&R people, who made them music gods, their ears are packed so full of shit they couldn't hear good music if it kicked them in the A$$...It's the masses that decide if it is good or bad. I got the same letter as you did over and over again, I even got put into some sort of circulation in the music company so that more ears could make a decision...that was also bull shit!...so, I still stand by my point, your chances are better in getting to the right set of ears if your music sounds good and is well put together. If it sounds like crap, it probably won't make it past the first set of ears before it goes in the garbage. This is not to say that even if it doesn't sound that great that it is crap...I repeat myself for the slower people, I does not necessarily mean your music sucks just because the A&R people didn't like it or it isn't recorded that great...It means your chances are better if more time is taken to make it as good as possible. Keep trying Rico...I tried for 8 years before I got my foot in the door. And I still have a long way to go. Eventually it will pay off. Late. Jeff
Jennae	Date: February 12, 2003 @ 1:20 PM *slides foot in behind jeff's well it was worth a try!
Alleagenz	Date: February 12, 2003 @ 3:40 PM If you put it that way Elu then thats right, you must learn at least some aspects of production, at least get it to sound as clear as you can.
trostlos	Date: February 12, 2003 @ 3:44 PM Well, for any of you that just need a bit of mastering on your final cuts or demos, then just give me a call (or email might be better). I'll be happy to do some work at no charge for independent bands.
jkate	Date: February 12, 2003 @ 4:02 PM Jeff, you're totally right. Artists have a responsibility to do the best of their ability in all aspects of their craft. And persistence pays - the people who wrote Chicken Soup for the Soul were rejected over 50 times before a publisher finally agreed to sell their book!
Rico111	Date: February 12, 2003 @ 6:51 PM Rico "Move to Improve" and let the light shine in!" id="33310">Jeff, I will keep trying, I think my music is making changes every time I write. But, not in any kind of anger mind you, the A&R people decide what the mass public will learn to like or accept. If it is Bach or Buddy Miles or Pappa Pump the youth of today will buy into it because of constant contact. I will always write what means something to me and I will always try to do the utmost best that I can, even if it is 5 hours and 15 solo's later. Finally tho, we all have to accept who we are where we are on the "time line" of the moment. Rico "Move to Improve" and let the light shine in!
natfunk	Date: February 13, 2003 @ 10:42 PM Just an FYI for those that have songs but no production and are broke. When I first started out I used to sing backgrounds for people. Pretty soon I got to know a lot of producers and I would trade vocals on demos for the use of those well produced songs. Eventually I got to the point where producers with studios would let me come in and do my demos if I traded work for them. You can do a lot with bartering and get excellent demos from trades like that. Sometimes you have to think outside the box, but when you do you can come up with a lot of great, cheap and even free ways to get great sounding demos. Keep at it Peace, Natalie Brown
JCASTELLAIN	Date: February 18, 2003 @ 1:53 AM Love,Peace....lets stop the complaining and just enjoy our music and friendships!...I've heard fantastic stuff recorded on just a portable minidisk and likewise 48track, digitally mastered noise! but the point is it does'nt matter anyway, dmusic is for anyone!...freedom to do your own thing, no matter what!
victorsskull	Date: February 18, 2003 @ 9:07 AM for example=check out the #1 song in heavy metal bad quality but it's cool
Elu	Date: February 19, 2003 @ 11:20 AM Possibly turret's (sp) syndrome?

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