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Music Folder Display error

Supertzar	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 11:28 AM My music folder will not display correctly. Everything is jumbled or not displayed at all. No way to select a song because they are no displayed. What a mess since the DM upgrade.
ShadowMom	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 11:49 AM We are aware of the problem... you use IE, obviously. If you have firefox, it will display properly. They are working to fix it.
Dexter	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 12:31 PM Displays properly in Opera for me
GeneHilbert	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 12:47 PM Let's put this into perspective...... How many users prefer or have as their default browser I.E. as opposed to the others. I'll bet I.E. is far and away the most popular..... So telling other users it works ok on another browser is not helpful. As well, how long has the new site been launched? Appox. 3 months +/- a few weeks. And there are still problems. When this started I was all in favor of the rework, and quite patient and satisfied that was in good hands and the problems would be worked out in short order... As a daily user my fate and optimism are starting to wane.....
Distilled1	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 1:52 PM hmm it works in IE for me at work does it have to do with wide mode? I am in standard
Distilled1	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 1:58 PM never mind it is all wacked
Dexter	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 1:58 PM It might if you use more than one browser as I do
Distilled1	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 2:21 PM yes I do to RH but the majoritie of internet users use IE and thats just fact. It really sucks too as it has to be running people away. :\
Dexter	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 2:55 PM But the strange thing is I'm on IE now and I see no irregularities Maybe there are other contributing factors But as Mom says, the very busy people are working on it...
ShadowMom	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 5:12 PM Pog doesn't see it, either, so I'm not sure what the common factor is. But the only people who are reporting it do use IE. And it's not an isp unless it's more than one, because we don't all use the same isp.
Kalos	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 5:24 PM It's true, it's kinda frustrating. However, on the other side of things, there are a variety of free internet browsers like Opera that work fine.
jack	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 6:36 PM The issue is directly related to Internet Explorer 6's arcane CSS implementation - if you can call it that. You may recall this was working up until a week or so ago. The reason it broke is because we are developing a new version of the artist pages and some how the development code was accidently merged into the live code base which caused breakages and eventually a revert to an older version of the page (since before redesign launch) - which is why things are messed up. This problem will be fixed shortly.
Distilled1	Date: November 20, 2006 @ 6:50 PM well we knew yopu were on the case, that would explain why I can veiw it at home as its not IE 6 its 6.??? and 7 on the laptop. Work is old...
Octadelica	Date: November 21, 2006 @ 11:14 AM Great to know what's causing it, Thanks. I downloaded my old trusty Netscape Navigator again and it's working fine now. I can finally see people's music pages properly agan.
ShadowMom	Date: November 21, 2006 @ 11:52 AM When Jack gets this fixed, it will work in IE6, too. He promised!
Jazzmary2U	Date: November 22, 2006 @ 8:11 PM When I first uploaded my new tunes, my music page looked fine.. now it is a mess.. I am still in IE6, so what changed? I am concerned because I use dmusic site, music page, as a link on my webpage. Oh, well, guess I can wait until the holidays are over..
ShadowMom	Date: November 22, 2006 @ 10:10 PM They were working on the artist page... I believe enough of you were unhappy with it. Mary, you can stay with IE6 and wait, and Jack will fix it, or you can use Firefox or Opera or upgrade to the new IE7.
zedsalt	Date: November 23, 2006 @ 11:04 AM There was a MAJOR problem in that the songs, presented in the artists' preferred order, were NOT the very first thing a visitor saw. The fix we were offered was the option of having our music page appear first, minus all the niceties that used to be on our artist pages. It was no where near as functional and eye-pleasing as it had been, but if we had to bury something behind a link, it made sense that it be something OTHER than the MUSIC. Under "properties" in our IE, it says that it was just modified recently, and the techies at two of our local libraries have assured me that they're using the latest software available. The music pages don't display correctly the overwhelming majority of the time here or at either library. I keep thinking of the old saying about how it wasn't a lack of knowledge that inhibited the mapping of the Earth; it was the illusion of knowledge... And it's a good thing that I know what a wonderful staff we have here; otherwise, this whole "you're just using the wrong browser" stuff would sound really snotty and elitist.
GeneHilbert	Date: November 23, 2006 @ 12:14 PM Touché
Jazzmary2U	Date: November 24, 2006 @ 11:35 AM My concern is not so much for me, but this is the link that I use from my jazzmary website to promote not only my music, but the dmusic site, and to not have the music page up is major.. seems that it would be a screaming priority.. I cannot instruct folks to change browsers to listen to my music.
Jazzmary2U	Date: November 24, 2006 @ 11:37 AM ..especially given the fact that it is holiday sales season, and I am pushing a new CD release.. knowwhaddimean?
jack	Date: November 24, 2006 @ 8:37 PM I'm not saying IE is the 'wrong' browser to be using, it just isn't as standards compliant as it should be. The reason why the pages are currently broken in IE is because some of the development code was accidently pushed live - these things happen, unfortunately there's no backup we can restore from so I'm having to work through it slowly and it's taking a lot more time than I would like. The technical reason is that IE seems to approach the handling of float elements in rather an abstract manner. The two possible options we have are: convert the current system to a table-based layout, or find a way to override the strange float handling problem. Both aren't 'quick' fixes by any menas. Also, the current system of 'redirecting' users to the music or overview page is a temporary fix until we can find time to redesign the artist pages. Give me a proper development team and things might go faster, but for now I am working as fast as I possibly can on this.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: November 25, 2006 @ 1:00 AM OK, using IE is about as good as making tea in a chocolate teapot. Time to get out of the luddite era and kick it to the can....I sympathize that 'everyone' uses it and that it should be priority to make it work in IE but we change is required and IE7 is not it either! Until people have the courage to change individually, nothing will happen collectively ! Anything else will do - Opera, Firefox, Seamonkey, Netscape, whatever, you have many choices ! It's like living among the Amiish hearing y'all say that IE6 is giving you problems, take a look at www.secunia.com and see how many unpatched secutiry vulnerabilities IE6 has. See how many are more than 18 months old and still haven't been patched. The FBI and other government agencies refuse to use IE because of all it's leaks, if it's not good enough for them it shouldn't be good enough for you! See how incompatible it is with browser standards, with the move to IE7 (which will have different problems as it attempts to be more coherent to standards, so many sites written to run in IE6 will now not display properly) and Firefox munching away IE's market share month by month. If you bought a hardware musical device that kept crashing for no reason, allowed others to upload all your sounds without you knowing and the company couldn't give a rats ass about it for YEARS, you would boot it for a field goal and never look back. Yet IE users keep on going back to it like an addict goes back to the crackpipe ! "doh" Now stay in for recess and write 100 lines - "I will learn from my mistakes and choose anything except for IE." Security poll conducted by secunia What browser do you trust the most? Internet Explorer 6.x (7%) Internet Explorer 7.x (10%) Firefox 1.x (10%) Firefox 2.x (46%) Opera 9.x (20%) Safari 2.x (5%) Other (3%) Guess which PC browser came bottom...again....
zedsalt	Date: November 25, 2006 @ 10:29 AM I like the idea of people being able to hear my music. Most are going to find it mildly amusing and ignore it everafter. A small handful of listeners are going to feel a very real and personal resonance with it, and in some very, very small way, it will enrich their lives. It bothers me a little when I mention that I have music here and people say, "DMusic? DMusic doesn't work." This is why I so appreciate Jack's herculean efforts to make DMusic work for the vast majority of internet users.
zedsalt	Date: November 25, 2006 @ 10:37 AM And I should mention that I strongly support the idea of people using different browsers. IE was the third browser that I used, because I'd heard that it was the biggest target for hackers due to it's predominance. The more people that use other browsers, the fewer the attacks on IE.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: November 25, 2006 @ 12:35 PM Yes, this is a worry, I don't want Firefox to get too big (it's market share for home use in N.America has risen from 9% to 14% in less than one year) - if Firefox starts to top 20% market share then it will be attacked more often. Still, a company that actively encourages people to report exploits with a view to patching them (ie. Mozilla with Firefox and Seamonkey) is preferable to a company that denies vulnerabilities exist (even when they can be easily recreated by various security sites such as wilders and secunia) and then leave them unpatched for 18 months (Microsoft IE). Still at the end of the day, people continue using the hole-ridden abhorration that is IE seeing as it comes packaged with windows o/s. We are here to share our music and promote our music, so it should be the priority to test the site and fix anything that won't work with certain browsers. Jack is doing the best he can, Dmusic is bigger than most corporate websites and they often have teams of people rather than one volunteer.
imemine	Date: November 25, 2006 @ 12:52 PM So many words!
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: November 25, 2006 @ 1:53 PM yup - feeling like the Count OF Monte Cristo (except in an office rather than cave, with only the voices in my head for company all week) Freedom I tell ya makes you run off at the mouth
imemine	Date: November 25, 2006 @ 1:56 PM More like The Cask of Amontillado for me!

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