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kingo	Date: October 15, 2007 @ 9:36 AM Wouldn't want to have any fun. Three or four threads I was posting in Saturday night just up and disappeared. Same old shit. Someone's really determined to see how many more users we can lose.
K3VIN	Date: October 15, 2007 @ 9:59 AM having fun was so 2005 on here.
kingo	Date: October 15, 2007 @ 11:36 AM Very true.
billrhynes	Date: October 15, 2007 @ 4:11 PM countin' my days...
celtaidd	Date: October 15, 2007 @ 4:28 PM Fun? No, you got me there squire Used to have it a long time ago
Distilled1	Date: October 15, 2007 @ 5:33 PM damn were they the thread I think/ that certain someone? damnit I like those ones just to lurk and read
kingo	Date: October 15, 2007 @ 7:06 PM Yes, they are fun. fun. OR, also, ignorable.
Woof	Date: October 15, 2007 @ 10:17 PM Maybe we need a refresher course: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fun Does anybody remember laughter? ...Robert Plant; The Song Remains The Same
iamseymour	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 12:23 AM How many users are there? It always seems pretty dead around here.. then again, I hang about on a certain imageboard which gets over 100,000 posts a day, so I guess I will have to get used to the calm and collected pace of this place. Like going camping out in the country for a bit.
Thaspian	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 12:20 PM I don't recognize 90% of the users here. You used to be able to post some really off topic disturbing stuff and get away with it, 5 years ago. What happened?
FraDonaghy	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 1:10 PM On this or any site, you make your own fun. I imagine you might enjoy yourselves a bit more if you stopped harking on about the past and tried to make something of the here and now.
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kingo	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 5:20 PM On 16th Oct 2008, FraDonaghy said: On this or any site, you make your own fun. I imagine you might enjoy yourselves a bit more if you stopped harking on about the past and tried to make something of the here and now. That's what I was doing Saturday night. But all my something-of-the-here-and-now got deleted. I'm not harking on about the past, I'm harking on about the Saturday. Unless that's the past you mean I should stop harking on about. In which case I assume you're promoting some sort of nihilism, which is, frankly, okay with me. Maybe all posts should be deleted immediately after we post them. In fact we should do away with the forums altogether: we have shoutboxes, after all. Awesome ideas, Fra! I'm going to go send some suggestions out into the void of the suggestion-area so that they can be deleted and I can immediately stop harking on about them! I AM GODDAMMED EXCITED NOW, I'LL TELL YA WHAT. WOOHOO!!!!!! I'VE TURNED OVER A NEW FUCKING PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!! LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING I DO NOW CAN BE IN ALL CAPS AND END WITH A BUNCH OF THESE THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On 16th Oct 2008, Thaspian said: I don't recognize 90% of the users here. You used to be able to post some really off topic disturbing stuff and get away with it, 5 years ago. What happened? I don't know what happened, but I'm sure it's got something to do with the Olsen twins.
Alwex	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 5:30 PM On 15th Oct 2008, kingo said: Wouldn't want to have any fun. Three or four threads I was posting in Saturday night just up and disappeared. Same old shit. Someone's really determined to see how many more users we can lose. The reason i spend less time around here on DM, is cause the forum is just not as fun as it was before, nothing to keep me here, not as fun to go lurk around for new Music on DM, when there is nothing that drags me to this site in the first place But its still a Little fun
FraDonaghy	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 7:02 PM Kingo, that wasn't directed as you so much as most of the other posters in the thread. I know you're pissed about AJ's threads being deleted by Rh. Everyone else seems to be just deflated about DMusic in general. Why? So many people complain that it's not the place it used to be... and I can see their point to a degree, but why complain about it? That will just make it worse. Yes this place has a lot of downsides - but if you concentrate on the negative you drag everybody down with you. Imagine how popular Myspace would be if the forums were full of the regulars whining about how they hate the site but yet keep coming back to it. The problem here is we care... maybe too much, and we all want DM to be the great place we thought it was when we first signed up. If you really want it to be that way again then stop moping around being a bitch and go do something constructive about it... and if that is too much to ask then stop logging on. Simple as that.
FraDonaghy	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 7:06 PM Apologies to rh if you are not the admin responsible for deleting those threads.. I just assumed so.
K3VIN	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 7:09 PM complaining gets things done a lot. I agree with kingo. u cant do something when u have no control.
kingo	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 7:35 PM On 16th Oct 2008, K3VIN said: u cant do something when u have no control. That's nearly just about right. OR, you can do what I do, which is complain. That's what this forum's for. On 16th Oct 2008, FraDonaghy said: If you really want it to be that way again then stop moping around being a bitch and go do something constructive about it... and if that is too much to ask then stop logging on. Simple as that. Regardless of who you're talking to, exactly -- bitching and moaning is just as much "doing something constructive" as whatever else we might do here. This literally seems to happen now every time I ramp back up my participation here -- that guy shows up, I get to do the inane things I do, I get involved, and 17 posts disappear and I wonder what the fuck I tried again for. On 16th Oct 2008, FraDonaghy said: Imagine how popular Myspace would be if the forums were full of the regulars whining about how they hate the site but yet keep coming back to it. Myspace has forums?? Wonder if they have deletehappiness as a feature over there, too.
K3VIN	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 8:06 PM I wish I had the power to help... maybe I'll start drinkin again and posting..
moam	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 8:18 PM I say we resurrect the masturbation thread You gotta admit, that was a shit-ton of fun http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26321%5Bhl\|masturbation%5D
K3VIN	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 8:20 PM that spawned the worst chain of threads ever.. not literally lol.. but some pretty bad stuff came up!
K3VIN	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 8:20 PM no pun intended
moam	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 8:49 PM I just read the whole fucking thing God damn, those were good times
moam	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 8:52 PM http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26483%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/complaints/26480%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26383%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/25752%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26415%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26375%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26384%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26379%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26366%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26378%5Bhl\|shower%5D http://www.dmusic.com/forum/thoughts/26361%5Bhl\|shower%5D Oh...my fucking...god To the good days.
K3VIN	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 8:55 PM the good days were when u could make a shitty thread and it would go to page 2 by the end of the day because of good ones.
moam	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 9:10 PM seriously, I read a couple of these, and it was some hilarious shit Immature and obnoxious, yes, but fucking hilarious
K3VIN	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 9:11 PM didnt one get super complained about cause it was about bibles lmao
moam	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 9:17 PM "Do you shower in the bible?" "How do you unstick the pages of the bible after masturbating on it?" "Do you read the bible in the shower?" Oh shit...good times
hantu	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 9:32 PM You people should be ashamed of yourselves! Though the PC Game version is great (especially if you have no friends ^-^), i still prefer the real life version as you get to touch the real fake money with your real hands. I may get the real life here and now too.
moam	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 9:36 PM
imemine	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 9:50 PM
kingo	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 10:19 PM
kyodylee	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 10:33 PM I read AJ's threads. I didn't see anything in them that warranted censorship or deletion.
moam	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 10:35 PM On 16th Oct 2008, kyodylee said: I read AJ's threads. I didn't see anything in them that warranted censorship or deletion. Ditto
K3VIN	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 10:39 PM i mention our friend presensky in my rap battle.
hantu	Date: October 16, 2007 @ 10:48 PM haha i just beat ai on Intermediate lv, he almost had me, but i came back Time to try out Tycoon! -that's the hardest lv
rhthesinner	Date: October 17, 2007 @ 7:18 AM We have been down this road before in public and in private, so it should come as no surprise to some that the threads were deleted. They were started by a user who circumvented his ban more than once. It had nothing to do with content. He has also trashed the site elsewhere (including users who have defended his actions in the past), harrassed users and threatened the site by email. Any future accounts he starts will be suspended and any posts made will be deleted.
kingo	Date: October 17, 2007 @ 8:01 AM Sounds great. Also, any future suspensions and threat deletions will be bitched about by me.
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 4:17 AM Then why try... Defending a hapless jerk who thinks nothing of breaking every rule he deems fit, including the unwarranted abuse aimed at admins, makes you the same in my opinion. You only scrape by because the remaining staff just don't have the balls to strangle this crap before it gets out of hand. Had I been one still, I can think of a few people who'd get the boot and politely asked not to come back. It is funny though that, when people defend that prat, they conveniently ignore everything he did that was negative to this site... Why don't his supporters club together and buy him a ticket for the movies, or the zoo? Take him out for a bloody ice-cream and pat his head? What makes things worse is that those intectually-challenged whiners of "freedom of speech" actually breed. Now THAT scares me.
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 4:19 AM intellectually. the one time i figure i can't be bothered with the preview button.
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 12:58 PM In the immortal words of our recently departed nutjob (again): "I don't know, I just want this topic to die." Unfortunately, as long as his best buddy still visits to whine and moan about the serial verbal abuser's treatment at the hands of those he constantly threatens and insults, it will never die. Anyone remotely supporting a member who has made it a habit to intimidate and threaten people here, plus from his own writings a definite case for lifelong incarceration in an asylum, must be a few bottles short of a crate themselves. I'm really hoping that one particular user will be lost over this... That isn't going to happen I bet, so I guess when I'm online and there's some bitching going on about someone being suspended or a thread being deleted, it's game on. Just make sure you put milk powder in that bottle and not your stash of coke.
Woof	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 1:58 PM Well if reality doesn't exist outside of our perception of it, then it's entirely possible that we've imagined the whole thing. It is our dreams, that keep us going...
Israfel	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 2:36 PM I try so hard to stay out of these things. I really do... but one thing I will never understand, DM rules aside, is why it okay to ban and delete someone who, though insistent in his posts, was basically harmless in what he did while the over reactive, venomous posts by other DM members who responded is seen as something completely tolerable. I think that is the heart of the issue here. Last night, someone came online and posted a bunch of crap and got many people riled up and in the mix. He was deleted. He came back and started over. Still being a prick. The fact is, the less we, the general membership of DM react to those posts, the more likely it is that the "offender" will just go away. Perhaps somewhere in the TOS there should be a tutorial on the appropriate way to deal with trolls and spammers. We complain the DM is dead. That the "good old days" are gone. We see lists of members who are AWOL with lit candle emotes and sad faces. I find it hard to believe that people leave just because they cannot post crap forums. In fact, I don't think that's the reason at all. I think the reason is - and this is where I get blasted, I'm sure - is that DM has become stagnant. Nobody really wants an honest comment on a song if that comment is critical or doesn't contain at least ten or fifteen bowdowns and high fives. Is that even realistic? Are we all really THAT good? If so, why are we here at all? Bottom line is - AJ was harmless. A harmless geek who posted things that, though crazy, were actually quite fun to read. Yet there are DM members here who are seemingly revered who have been personally responsible for at least three people I know leaving the site. I guess it's all in your perspective and how "honest" you want to be. There are plenty of "nutjobs" still here at DM. And some of us are hanging on, by a very thin thread, hoping beyond hope, that somehow we can get DM back on track.
K3VIN	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 2:40 PM if aj threatened my life id buy him a drink
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 2:46 PM i'm assuming you wouldn't choose what i was thinking, 50% vodka 50% valium?
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 2:53 PM Issy, name one nutjob here who's been as erratic, insulting, abusive of the rules and threatening as AJ and i'll buy the "harmless" thought. i don't count, so don't use me even i wouldn't stoop so low as to use the language he used before, certainly not against people who have the hardest job here, with the top brass seemingly MIA most of the time and a site full of people that needs pulling back into line sometimes. i know i caused someone to leave. i threw punches, i got plenty back. i also took blows and threw those back too. the only regrets i have are for any damage i caused the site and its community, nothing more. rules are rules, i was put in my place and i took it, which is something AJ couldn't take and relentlessly pursued his path of ignoring every rule he came across. harmless, maybe... banned for inexcusable actions and words still. that decision was made by those who run the site and nobody has the authority to try overturning it apart from them, plus constantly bringing it up as a starting point for threads.... sorry, has that a point either? i agree we should be more open with song criticism, there isn't enough of it.
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 2:56 PM addition: i'm sure i have used bad language before and i ain't defending it but when told to drop it, i did. with the exception of one person in all the crap that blew out after the re-design went live, i am back on some level of talking terms again with those i clashed. i figured that was the right direction to move in... however, i am not going to retract anything i have said or will say about the more persistant user who loves dragging this all up.
moam	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 4:52 PM Mary, you know I agree with you about the "honest" song comments matter This is all about that dude who came back and left a couple apologies threads, right? If it is, I'm not really sure what he did or how he acted in this past, but his most recent threads when he became a member here again seemed very harmless. I was quite shocked when I found them deleted. I'm all about giving people second chances, but then again, I really don't know much about this dude. I apologize if we are talking about completely different people here too!
Tattoomom	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 6:09 PM Damn! You get sick for a couple of days and look at all the fun you miss!
billrhynes	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:05 PM WARNING: "good Ol' Days" theme to follow... When I joined up here, I can't remember how many times somebody blasted my page with html codes that disabled everything in my box. I remember putting something like 50,000 bunny emotes in Ime's box that totally blasted his page off the site (he actually couldn't access it for days)he didn't get all mad at me and demand I be banned and shit... Of course admins have become more and more resourceful in dealing with things like that since then, but what I'm trying to say is that DMusic was like the wild west back then. That's the type of environment I became accustomed to early on. People had a sense of humor. Nobody was playing "supercop", and we all had fun. I've posted some really, really, really dumb threads, but I could care less if they got buried under more 'significant' posts. In fact, many times I've started something and sat back and watched (and laughed) while everybody else had fun, or got pissed, or what the fuck ever. I'm guilty of being a trouble maker, I guess, though, I certainly hope I'm not responsible for anyone leaving the site, then, on the other hand...fuck 'em. What's that old saying... If ya can't take a joke- I probably shouldn't post this, I always tend to become combative after seven or eight beers, so if I'm going to make a complete ass out of myself, I might as well do my "I'm a little tea pot" for y'all. (Damn, too bad we don't have a webcam feature)
billrhynes	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:13 PM WARNING: "good Ol' Days" theme to follow... When I joined up here, I can't remember how many times somebody blasted my page with html codes that disabled everything in my box. I remember putting something like 50,000 bunny emotes in Ime's box that totally blasted his page off the site (he actually couldn't access it for days)he didn't get all mad at me and demand I be banned and shit... Of course admins have become more and more resourceful in dealing with things like that since then, but what I'm trying to say is that DMusic was like the wild west back then. That's the type of environment I became accustomed to early on. People had a sense of humor. Nobody was playing "supercop", and we all had fun. I've posted some really, really, really dumb threads, but I could care less if they got buried under more 'significant' posts. In fact, many times I've started something and sat back and watched (and laughed) while everybody else had fun, or got pissed, or what the fuck ever. I'm guilty of being a trouble maker, I guess, though, I certainly hope I'm not responsible for anyone leaving the site, then, on the other hand...fuck 'em. What's that old saying... If ya can't take a joke- I probably shouldn't post this, I always tend to become combative after seven or eight beers, so if I'm going to make a complete ass out of myself, I might as well do my "I'm a little tea pot" for y'all. (Damn, too bad we don't have a webcam feature)
moam	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:13 PM You must be pretty serious about that to post it twice!!
billrhynes	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:14 PM so nice I posted twice...
Saint	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:15 PM Speaking of good ol' days...the ominous, overly delayed double post seems to have returned to seek it's revenge on Mr.Rhynes
moam	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:16 PM
billrhynes	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:22 PM On 20th Oct 2008, Saint said: Speaking of good ol' days...the ominous, overly delayed double post seems to have returned to seek it's revenge on Mr.Rhynes the funny thing is I had Crystal proof-read it, and I told her to post it when she saw it was ok. So you might notice it was mysteriously free of typos at least before she did managed to re-visit the Rhynes tradition of "double posting"
billrhynes	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:23 PM "did managed" ????????????????
Saint	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:26 PM I'm guessing she didn't proof read that one? Hey, atleast is didn't post twice...although the last one took a near record setting 8 minutes so it's too early to tell
billrhynes	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:26 PM "did managed" ????????????????
Saint	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 10:28 PM On 20th Oct 2008, billrhynes said: "did managed" ???????????????? On 20th Oct 2008, Saint said: I'm guessing she didn't proof read that one? Hey, atleast is didn't post twice...although the last one took a near record setting 8 minutes so it's too early to tell On 20th Oct 2008, billrhynes said: "did managed" ???????????????? Like I said, I spoke too soon..
kingo	Date: October 20, 2007 @ 11:09 PM On 20th Oct 2008, ChillinBuzz said: I'm really hoping that one particular user will be lost over this... That isn't going to happen I bet, so I guess when I'm online and there's some bitching going on about someone being suspended or a thread being deleted, it's game on. game on? I'm doubting that I'm going to be "lost" over this. Sorry. But hey, how about you go suck a socket wrench? I hear they're good after being in a crockpot for about sixteen hours. On 20th Oct 2008, ChillinBuzz said: What makes things worse is that those intectually-challenged whiners of "freedom of speech" actually breed. Now THAT scares me. Wait, hey, am I being called intectually challenged?!??!? Maybe not, maybe you're not talking to me, maybe I missed something. But in case you ARE talking about me with that reference to the breeding thing -- yes, your worst fears are being realized: every night I sneak into my daughter's room and whisper into her ear, "let the crazies talk, let the crazies talk, their words are only words and they aren't going to kill you, let the crazies talk, let the crazies talk, whine about free speech every chance you get, be as intectually challenged as possible..." If all goes according to plan, in about six years she'll be on DMusic talking exactly like AJ and she'll keep getting banned because no one will believe she's not he and I'll rise high on my cloud of righteous indignation and shit all over your forehead. It's going to be SO worth turning my daughter into a lunatic just to prove a point.
Woof	Date: October 21, 2007 @ 1:46 AM I'm not arguing any side of this issue. There are good and decent members of our community on both sides. Lately, though, it seems like all we do is argue. Doesn't that get a little tiring? I mean... when there isn't a good exchange of animosity going on in these forums, all that's left for visitors to see as a representation of who we are, is promotions and questions about how to slice tracks in Sonar and stuff like that. Are we all really that shallow?
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 21, 2007 @ 2:04 AM I wouldn't compare you to an intellectually challenged person like AJ, now that would be an insult to the poor deluded mess he is. Arguing does get tiring but as long as jerkoff keeps dragging the issue up, over and over again, then someone's going to kick back. Get over it, Kingo. AJ is banned. He earned the ban. You don't get to say when it should be overturned or dropped. All you fucking seem to do here half of the time is complain about his treatment, complain about something else or post something inciteful. I think I've said it before though, you are welcome to try shitting on me. Anytime you like. If it stops you talking about your best buddy and makes you think about spending more time with your family (that I hope you don't treat the same way you do to others here) then there's hope. However, given it's not made a difference at all here, I won't be holding my breath. No, I don't like you. And I know you don't like me. I don't give a shit either way but like you I have friends here too and some of them you just seem to go out of your way to piss off.
zedsalt	Date: October 21, 2007 @ 10:28 AM I'm kind of torn, here. I mean, what do you do when someone is so painfully insecure, so sadly lacking in self esteem, that it's difficult to even watch? Calling him on it would only serve to make matters worse, right? Would I be guilty of some kind of Sin of Omission if I forced myself to ignore someone acting like a "nutjob" who's being "erratic, insulting, abusive of the rules and threatening" at least one of the people who make this a site worth visiting? Maybe we could have another Quirk awards and add categories for "Best Welcome Wagoneer" and "Non-admin' Who Has Worked Hardest to Keep the Site Small"...
GeneHilbert	Date: October 21, 2007 @ 11:08 AM "Can't we all just get along"......... Yeah Right...... As If..... LOL But seriously folks, take my wife..... Please
kingo	Date: October 21, 2007 @ 12:12 PM On 21st Oct 2008, ChillinBuzz said: If it stops you talking about your best buddy and makes you think about spending more time with your family (that I hope you don't treat the same way you do to others here) then there's hope. I'm very happy to see that you're concerned for my family, and how much time I spend with them, and how I treat them. It's touching. There's only one person here who I treat with contempt and a lack of respect. I only act like that to people who've earned it. If you take my complaining to be an attack on the admins who delete threads and accounts and things, that's your business. As far as I'm concerned I'm complaining about a site policy; that has no bearing whatever on how I feel about the people doing it. So yes, there's only one person who's earned my contempt, and you just keep on doing it.
kingo	Date: October 21, 2007 @ 12:24 PM On 21st Oct 2008, Woof said: Lately, though, it seems like all we do is argue. Doesn't that get a little tiring? I mean... when there isn't a good exchange of animosity going on in these forums, all that's left for visitors to see as a representation of who we are, is promotions and questions about how to slice tracks in Sonar and stuff like that. Are we all really