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Jennae	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 5:19 PM Trash em!! They suck and are inconsistant! I hate it!
Jennae	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 5:32 PM can someone tell me the purpose in changing them? How is changing the fonts making anything any better! Other than adding additions changes to the list that are unnecessary and simply aggrivating us! This seems to me like a big head game! Lets see how many changes we can make happen all at once for no frikken reason. I am getting very very aggrivated!! And if I am bitching about something so miniscule... then why are we even doing it in the first place!
Expose	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 5:38 PM The fonts aren't a big thing. I'm using 1600x1200, I'm grateful I can read the damn screen...
Expose	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 5:38 PM *big thing to me.
GrooveTonic	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 5:41 PM the fonts are hard to read on the numbers
Jennae	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 5:42 PM Well I think it's a very very unnecessary change! It's more like someone trying to prove a point if you ask me! hmpf!
ChillinBuzz	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 6:18 PM yep, i noticed several areas have become harder to read, and i have a friggin big monitor too sorry peeps, we are the whining minority. hoot: but the font still sucks
Jennae	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 6:30 PM I need one good reason why... One!
milladriven	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 6:34 PM Shut up, Thasp. I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns.
Expose	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 6:37 PM I do still prefer verdana. =P
ChillinBuzz	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 6:54 PM i always thought the same line repeated several times was considered spam... or does that only count to ONE member doing it? I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns.
milladriven	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 7:01 PM lol @ chill Hey, I'm tryin' to be upset here, will ya? hehe
Jennae	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 7:06 PM I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns maybe someone will read it!
pog	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 7:28 PM verdana... I don't belive we've met... wow... deja vu
fu-dog	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 8:16 PM The font was changed on the main page to help compress the information and make it more viewable as a whole. It's a change that Michelle demanded. That's all well and good, except that it's not nearly as friendly to the eyes as the verdana had been. It could be because she's on a Mac... perhaps verdana is super-huge or ugly on OS X? I know, i'm enabling... The inconsistancies are related to having the font defined in multiple places throughout web pages and style sheets. I haven't tracked down all the places to adjust yet as i'm hoping i'm given permission to switch things back to verdana.
Jennae	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 8:25 PM yes we need to be patience while the bugs are worked out, but yeah it's really hard on the eyes for us old geezers! But thank you for taking the time to explain a little for us! Much appreciated!
milladrive	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 8:34 PM At the risk of sounding robotic: I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns.
Wordsense	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 9:11 PM doesn't bother me.
Expose	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 9:20 PM Say it 15 million more times, and you'll sound like me with MP3 They are irritating. Also, how many 56kers(sue me), are actually not going to be patient enough to load the front page? I mean, if they're patient enough to wait 15-25 minutes to download an average song, the front page is nothing. As chilly said, cut off some of the news, and graphics, and it would've been fine. And I could really care less when I say this(what, I have a rep of being smart to break or somethin' ? ), but using IE on a mac, M$ probably made it work like shit :conspiracytheory:.
micruiser	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 9:57 PM I realize that change is difficult for everyone. I just ask that you hang in there and keep the feedback coming. Funny, I am sure that MS isn't making it pretty for me, however, I use a few other browsers to check things out as well. What we were trying to do is compress the space between the letters. If you all have ideas of fonts, besides verdana, that you would like us to try...email me. Michelle
Svensta	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 11:50 PM Browsers behave differently depending on the platform, (especially with system fonts) funny, but its actually a lot more legible and even kinda pretty on my build of Opera. Opera 0wns j00 you might also consider 'Bookman Old Style' Another system font on 2000/XP that is VERY crisp and easy to read at high res.
Jennae	Date: February 28, 2003 @ 11:57 PM um why besides verdana??
Cryxan	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 5:33 AM http://cryxan.com/dm/yuckyfont1.jpg ...an extreme situation: http://cryxan.com/dm/yuckyfont2.jpg And while we're on the topic, one more thing: http://cryxan.com/dm/yuckyfont3.jpg The Login and Go buttons are fuzzy, and the dark blue backgrounds behind "What is DMusic" and "Get your music heard..." don't match the dark blue of the other dark blue backgrounds beneath it. Also, the text on these two headings in Arial look extremely plain. I think the appeal of Verdana is that it's very readable and easy on the eyes even in a small size. :nod: :hypnodisk: :hypnodisk: :hypnodisk: :hypnodisk: :hypnodisk:" id="34985">If there's any doubt about how the site looks now due to OS differences, allow me to elimitane that variable now with some screenies. The probelm with Arial is that it's too tall and skinny, making longer paragraphs difficult to read because your eyes have a hard time focusing on the letters and start to wander. Sample from the site on a typical 800X600 res screen: http://cryxan.com/dm/yuckyfont1.jpg ...an extreme situation: http://cryxan.com/dm/yuckyfont2.jpg And while we're on the topic, one more thing: http://cryxan.com/dm/yuckyfont3.jpg The Login and Go buttons are fuzzy, and the dark blue backgrounds behind "What is DMusic" and "Get your music heard..." don't match the dark blue of the other dark blue backgrounds beneath it. Also, the text on these two headings in Arial look extremely plain. I think the appeal of Verdana is that it's very readable and easy on the eyes even in a small size.
mcarp555	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 6:30 AM So much for responding to feedback from the community." id="34986">Hmm. So what I'm hearing is, "I'm open to your ideas, but you're not getting Verdana back, end of story." So much for responding to feedback from the community.
Jennae	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 12:21 PM Thankl cry for such a lovely reasonable explaination. And I have to agree. I must admit that the new home page header where ya log out just drives me batty! The log out button looks like I like Verdana! I want my mommy...
Jennae	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 12:31 PM How is the font too big? if it's too large well then can't we just scroll down further and extra inch and keep the font the same?
Fiji	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 12:45 PM I want the old font back. This one is honestly a little harder to read. If I could, could I get an explanation on why the change of font was neccessary? I can understand if it was causing problems some where along the line, but i've never had a problem with Verdana. And I don't think anybody else has either.
ChillinBuzz	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 12:48 PM I couldnt think of an initial response to that other than Leave the font as it is. it sucks and its going to be constantly complained about as IT IS UNPOPULAR sad fact of life, its not liked and its non-negotiable. this.... i wont say.
emu	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 1:11 PM I agree wtih Chilly. This new font is un-popular to say the least. I think everybody was contempt with the previous font and we would all like to see it's return to DMusic. And like Jennae said, how is the font too big? I've nver had a problem with scrolling down an extra half inch or so to view the entire screen. I much rather do that than have this new font.
RyanS	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:03 PM I have yet to see what this looks like under Mozilla in Linux. The font is small here with IE/Mozilla on Win32, really hate to see what it looks like in Linux..
Expose	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:09 PM RyanS; Usually, in Linux, all the fonts are really small until you install the video driver. Makes a nice difference, try it
RyanS	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:15 PM It's just that Mozilla won't make use of TTF fonts. And BTW, the fonts actually look LARGER under Linux :shrug:" id="35040">I am using the video "driver" for my video card, as per X11 setup (ATI Radeon 8500). It's just that Mozilla won't make use of TTF fonts. And BTW, the fonts actually look LARGER under Linux
Expose	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:19 PM these drivers do anything for ya ;) " id="35041">Wierd. I can't speak for mandrake; but usually, the "generic" driver that'll work for your card, doesn't work correctly, and'll show fonts smaller/bigger than they should be, at a given resolution. NVidia, at the moment, has better Linux support, with usually better drivers, but that was some time ago, so see if these drivers do anything for ya
Expose	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:23 PM Also ryan, try the new version of the konqueror browser. Unfourtunely, that means downloading the new version of KDE, which should be in the mandrake update, which is a bitch on 56k. Try doin' it ovewrnight or while you're out. With the video driver, konqueror, despite not being the best browser, has awesome fonts, better than any browser I've seen, Windows or Linux.
RyanS	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:23 PM http://images2.dmusic.com/users/r/y/a/ryans/6193.png" id="35044">Well I spoke too soon! I went back under the Community page, and the fonts look very ugly! Here's what it looks like: http://images2.dmusic.com/users/r/y/a/ryans/6193.png
Expose	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:28 PM Try the drivers Linux has an ugly font problem, and even with the drivers, they'll look a bit jagged, but they'll be a lot more readable. It's a complete bitch to make the konqueror fonts work in mozilla, which sucks too. This is off topic, but I am really curious. In Linux, how do you prnt scrn? I tried hitting prnt scrn, and pasting it into many programs, and nothing showed up. What do you hit, and what program do you paste it into to make an image file of it?
Jennae	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:29 PM OMG that is terrible? oh yeah we'll need bifocals for that screen...
RyanS	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:30 PM I use KSnapshot
Fiji	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:32 PM That hurts my eyes just to read it. Good Lord!
Jennae	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:34 PM my journal is looking mighty fine.. and so is Thasp, FIJI's, ChillinBuzz, hmmm who else?
Expose	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:36 PM Thanks Sorry, ryan, if that doesn't work, the new konqueror browser(with the new KDE) and that driver, guess DM is just fux0red with Linux . My journal'll be in verdana all the way
Fiji	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:40 PM Jennae on the side.
Jennae	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:44 PM awe thanks Fiji I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns.
echaos	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 2:50 PM Evolution's Chaos has joined the Verdana Journal Movement. (MC)
Jennae	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 3:03 PM emu has just joined the movement too! welcome!!
rapidhopeloss	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 3:10 PM I don't like it, especially on my Artist page how theres that big stupid image for the top track, and the actual song TITLE which is 1000x more important is about a quarter of the height. I'm gonna put up the font size on IE every time i come to dmusic :annoyingconcept:
ChillinBuzz	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 6:33 PM I just tried altering my font size on IE6, and some of my journal changes but the bulk of the page doesnt change. what gives? cant even change it, or am i just unlucky (IE6. apart from gullible )
weaponzero	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 7:05 PM i liked the old new design better
Cryxan	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 8:50 PM The point about compressing space doesn't hold much water as long as there is all that empty space on the bottom of the main page.
pog	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 10:16 PM well, at least we still have our
Jennae	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 10:26 PM CRY uh huh! I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns.
Fiji	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 11:26 PM I thoroughly miss verdana. I will not be happy until she returns. VM!!!
Wordsense	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 11:32 PM i mean seriously, a font does not serve relevance to everyone's cause here, i would hope not anyway. this thread is ridiculous, redundant, and really...i dont know i ran out of R-words.
Jennae	Date: March 1, 2003 @ 11:53 PM You are right Word, But the fonts are just a small piece of the total point we are making.
Wordsense	Date: March 2, 2003 @ 12:10 AM i mean i guess i can understand being upset with the fact that they can make these lil changes like the frontpage, and the fonts and everything but have yet to put any action towards the suggested changes by the members, but still.
Wordsense	Date: March 2, 2003 @ 12:11 AM ^that was a really long run-on sentence.
Cryxan	Date: March 2, 2003 @ 12:17 AM The font issue has become a symbol. It's an arbitrary change that turned out to be very unpopular, but the powers that be are adamant about it. Powers that aren't at all familiar with the site... cough Not to mention that Arial is so friggin' hard on the eyes. cough
Jennae	Date: March 2, 2003 @ 12:42 AM changing the font :rofl: was that some kind of message to let everyone know that theres a new lion in the cage? so silly verdana is like, something that dmusic has used for around 8 years. it seems so weird." " id="35122">copy and paste " changing the font was that some kind of message to let everyone know that theres a new lion in the cage? so silly verdana is like, something that dmusic has used for around 8 years. it seems so weird."
SoulBeats	Date: March 3, 2003 @ 1:21 PM I really don't give a rats ass about the font. (I needed to say that)
SoulBeats	Date: March 3, 2003 @ 1:23 PM If it's readable, I don't complain.
ChillinBuzz	Date: March 3, 2003 @ 1:40 PM if its unreadable, the rest do complain. well, Internet Explorer is in need of replacing.... NO! That's not the answer.... I recall seeing some pages with different fonts on them. SO IT MUST BE POSSIBLE to put Verdana back in the artist pages or their journals.
nemoorange	Date: March 3, 2003 @ 9:20 PM its just a font.
milladrive	Date: March 3, 2003 @ 10:50 PM Yup, and this is just a music site.
Miss-Verdana	Date: March 8, 2003 @ 9:43 PM
Expose	Date: March 8, 2003 @ 9:49 PM {off topic} ... And there is a space in that username how? . Back to the insanity
Expose	Date: March 8, 2003 @ 10:00 PM Oh dear . Ignore that... bug in an alpha of mozilla
jkate	Date: March 8, 2003 @ 11:55 PM Can we title Nemo as The Official Pisser In The Cornflakes?
Miss-Verdana	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 12:36 AM Ok I'm here. What do all you people want with me?
ChillinBuzz	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 1:36 AM heyyyy now WAIT just a minute. How come MISS Verdana gets a gap in her-o) name? and we cant oh and while you are here, put Verdana back in its place.
thumbtack	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 2:47 AM LOL don't miss a thing do ya Buzzie and Thasp.....IT was joke. She's a figment.
thumbtack	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 2:53 AM Spaces still don't work...
azhazhellfire	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 4:10 AM i think you are all making a MAJOR FAT FUSS. who gives a bloody shit about the font, as long as you can READ IT WITHOUT GLASSES, who really gives a dogs left arse cheek? oh, but the logout and login button NEED to be sorted MAJOR style. i thoroughly believe the VM movement is highly ridiculous, i will not be happy until it disappears.
SoulBeats	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 5:49 AM Yep. I agree with Az.
mcarp555	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 7:20 AM Ok, so the little kids with good eyesight are indifferent, as long as they're satisfied. The rest of us past voting age who can't read it even WITH glasses are SOL, huh?
leflaw	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 10:22 AM images.dmusic.com togther with his tongue while making sure the data base didn't crash. AN UNSUNG DMUSIC HERO in my book. Respect." id="36067">Wait a minute. Aren't the font's in this thread all Verdana? Can't each browser be adjusted. Tell me what you want? Actually. I think I want to install phpbb at this site and set the font to OLD ENGLISH actually, we will get back to the font's as soon as we put out fu-dog with a fire extinguisher. He spontaneously ignited while holding the hardrive on images.dmusic.com togther with his tongue while making sure the data base didn't crash. AN UNSUNG DMUSIC HERO in my book. Respect.
Expose	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 10:31 AM Oh dear; Someone was right :D ;) Yes; but 1) Most won't know how, or won't take the time to. 2) I set it. Took me 15 minutes, and now every damn site has the DM font size/style! So I have to have mozilla as my "DMusic" browser, and Phoenix as my every other site browser. Annoying. Not a good idea. Have it natrually be Verdana, or not at all. "Aren't the font's in this thread all Verdana?" No. Arial. Also, if DM looked bad Michelle, on a mac, with IE, try another browser. There are tons. MS has already made fucked their competetion in a swift anti-trust suit catching case, when it came to compatibility. " id="36072">"Can't each browser be adjusted." Oh dear; Someone was right Yes; but 1) Most won't know how, or won't take the time to. 2) I set it. Took me 15 minutes, and now every damn site has the DM font size/style! So I have to have mozilla as my "DMusic" browser, and Phoenix as my every other site browser. Annoying. Not a good idea. Have it natrually be Verdana, or not at all. "Aren't the font's in this thread all Verdana?" No. Arial. Also, if DM looked bad Michelle, on a mac, with IE, try another browser. There are tons. MS has already made fucked their competetion in a swift anti-trust suit catching case, when it came to compatibility.
jkate	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 4:43 PM It would be easier (I think) to change the gen text in the style sheet rather than each member change their browser..." id="36121">LMAO Thasp!! No MS did not! That article was hilarious. You can't tell me the richest man in the world with the "smartest" staff in the world accidentally broke an Opera style sheet. Ha. Fat chance. It would be easier (I think) to change the gen text in the style sheet rather than each member change their browser...
jmweirick	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 9:32 PM oh for crying out loud, GET OVER IT! Verdana or arial i don't care they both look the same to me. i think ms did that on pupose but that isn't the point here. if you don't like the font, tough luck! they canged it and griping and complaining won't help get it back.
Expose	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 10:00 PM It is a big deal. If you had to read a letter, would you rather read it in print or script? Arial is harder to read. Thus people will complain. Since reading is a big part of this site, even more will complain.
nemoorange	Date: March 9, 2003 @ 10:40 PM In our case, the colonies are the DMusic users, Great Britain/King George is the DMusic administration, and the tax is the font. & just to clarify, I'm not saying the admins are evil & there's gonna be a revolution. I'm just trying to use what little I remember from 8th grade history to put everything in perspective. Point being: everyone's scared that this font changing could signal the demise DMusic as we know it. & nobody would want that. Just like very few people wanted the American Revolution. & on a side note, could someone explain to me that "pisser in the cornflakes" reference? I don't even like cornflakes." id="36152">Aaaah, I guess it is a bit hard to read. You'll have to excuse my ignorance. But, what I think the real situation here is something much larger. To put it in analogy, its much like the "Taxation without Representation" idea of the American Revolution. The actual tax didn't piss off the colonies, that was fairly insignificant. It was the fact that Great Britain imposed a tax without consent of the people whom it affected. The American people saw this as what would be the first step of King George taking away the independence of the colonies. In our case, the colonies are the DMusic users, Great Britain/King George is the DMusic administration, and the tax is the font. & just to clarify, I'm not saying the admins are evil & there's gonna be a revolution. I'm just trying to use what little I remember from 8th grade history to put everything in perspective. Point being: everyone's scared that this font changing could signal the demise DMusic as we know it. & nobody would want that. Just like very few people wanted the American Revolution. & on a side note, could someone explain to me that "pisser in the cornflakes" reference? I don't even like cornflakes.
azhazhellfire	Date: March 11, 2003 @ 3:36 AM sorry carpie, thats a good point. even if you did put it as if i had just killed your mother.
milladrive	Date: March 11, 2003 @ 10:45 AM "if you don't like the font, tough luck! they canged it and griping and complaining won't help get it back." ...Uh, speak for yourself there, jm. I happen to like thinking that it means a little more than average around here when I gripe and complain. "They" changed it, but, since I'm here, "they" are also griping and complaining about it in their own little way. Some good points, nemo, and a few valid. ...but have you read my journal? This is not a war. This isn't even civil war. The outcome of this font issue will not include casualties (other than perhaps arial). Remember, the colonies were entitled to be treated as British citizens and were not considered as such. The members of this community are _not_ lookin' to now separate themselves from the administration. I mean, where would that place me? I'm every bit as much a community member and artist as you are, but I'm also in the administration. :puzzled: This is no war, and, as I've been saying repeatedly, it's not about anyone's rights. There's a big difference between voicing our discontent and making demands. No one is _entitled_ to DMusic, and frankly, if a user doesn't like what they see when they're here, they're welcome to make suggestions or they're welcome to not stay. :shrug:" id="36285">"I thoroughly believe the VM movement is highly ridiculous, i will not be happy until it disappears." ...Az, don't ever paraphrase me again. "if you don't like the font, tough luck! they canged it and griping and complaining won't help get it back." ...Uh, speak for yourself there, jm. I happen to like thinking that it means a little more than average around here when I gripe and complain. "They" changed it, but, since I'm here, "they" are also griping and complaining about it in their own little way. Some good points, nemo, and a few valid. ...but have you read my journal? This is not a war. This isn't even civil war. The outcome of this font issue will not include casualties (other than perhaps arial). Remember, the colonies were entitled to be treated as British citizens and were not considered as such. The members of this community are _not_ lookin' to now separate themselves from the administration. I mean, where would that place me? I'm every bit as much a community member and artist as you are, but I'm also in the administration. This is no war, and, as I've been saying repeatedly, it's not about anyone's rights. There's a big difference between voicing our discontent and making demands. No one is _entitled_ to DMusic, and frankly, if a user doesn't like what they see when they're here, they're welcome to make suggestions or they're welcome to not stay.

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