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Etheracide	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 3:47 PM This site has so many new people sign up every single day! But you hardly ever see any new names on the forums, or in comments to your songs... seems like mostly the same people leaves pots/shouts/comments no matter how many new people sign up. What's the deal? haha
fireball87	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 4:33 PM um... well... most likly most of the people who sign up every day are just looking for a free host... and don't even want to be a part of a comunity... lol... and new people come arround who actually stay every once in awhile... i mean... its only been a few months sence i was new
blooddshedd	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 4:35 PM and the new people are sent by the evil people in my pants to monitor me
lbscold	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 4:47 PM You gotta watch out for those pants people man they will get you when you least expect it. I know this from experience, I used to have 14inches down there now its just a respectable 4 . lol lolol LbS
MurDaHRaW	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 4:53 PM im new... lol well not too new but new to dmusic... but yea ppl usually just want a host
ashleighj	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 5:24 PM it's entirely possible they just don't know about the community aspect. i probably wouldn't have known if i hadn't needed to drop by the help forum because one of my songs wouldn't upload due to the file's size.
Expose	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 5:51 PM I scared them away.
ronnie71	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 5:56 PM also the people that sign up are not signing on to DMusic but like Gnutella and Boycott.. they are all linked somehow...
Etheracide	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 6:46 PM I just figured that out of the 97,000+ current members, we'd see some more around here hehe I, myself, am only a month old here...but it caught on rather quickly with me.
leflaw	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 7:59 PM Expose, you're strip tease isn't what I'd call scary,.
Jennae	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 9:19 PM well I suggest you perform a little experiment find someone you haven't shouted at.. preferable someone who has not been shouted at at all.. and see what happens then I have suckered more people into the community that way you just gotta reach out to them first curiousity always killed the cat if you shout it... they will come show them the light ...
Etheracide	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 10:54 PM I tried that my first few nights here. I figured that they might see my shout on the user page and then follow the link and see what I have there..etc..and then they'd see what all there is to do around here. But I never get shouts back from them. Bastards! hehe
ronnie71	Date: July 15, 2003 @ 11:57 PM i used to do that... and Cryxan told me it was for nought since i couldnt teell who was actually a DMusic member or not... maybe that can be worked out..
sinai	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 3:47 AM i still think itz because all the admins are creating accounts for the illusion of a popular site
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 4:27 AM secret's out now
milladriven	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 4:33 AM It's possible sinai's got a point there. =P
TameasDust	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 5:20 AM Most newbies dont even know they have a user page let alone where to find it, sooooo shout all yah want they will never see it. i have only been here since july 1st, im a curious sort. im still trying to figure out why xp wont let me do half the stuff win98 would.
sinai	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 5:34 AM it's all a conspiracy...
Jesuszilla	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 6:24 AM How long has DMusic been going?
Tudris	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 7:09 AM mp3.com (which sucks in more ways, but let's pretend). The forums there go so fast that refreshing the page will put seconds-old topics near the bottom of the page. It goes almost as fast as the "recent searches" page at AllTheWeb.com. If we had such a situation here, it would be really difficult to get a strong central community. Sure, you'd have groups of people who all like to post to each other's shoutboxes, but everyone in general wouldn't be as connected. And there's my rant for the day. I'm going to bed now; stayed up all night playing (and sucking at) Starcraft on Battle.net. Goodnight/morning/whatever." id="54165">I'm fairly new; I joined a few weeks ago. This might just be my opinion, but I kind of like seeing the same faces (avatars/usernames) a lot. Nothing against having a nice, big community, but sites where everyone is doing everything at the same time are hard to keep up with, and the community aspect fails. Take, for instance, mp3.com (which sucks in more ways, but let's pretend). The forums there go so fast that refreshing the page will put seconds-old topics near the bottom of the page. It goes almost as fast as the "recent searches" page at AllTheWeb.com. If we had such a situation here, it would be really difficult to get a strong central community. Sure, you'd have groups of people who all like to post to each other's shoutboxes, but everyone in general wouldn't be as connected. And there's my rant for the day. I'm going to bed now; stayed up all night playing (and sucking at) Starcraft on Battle.net. Goodnight/morning/whatever.
Jesuszilla	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 7:13 AM I used to play Starcraft. Moved onto Warcraft 3 and the expo pack though Don't play much though. Zerg rush ^______________^ --;;
Etheracide	Date: July 16, 2003 @ 7:46 AM Well my main concern about all of those people not making appearances are simply that I already had many of the site's major players check out Etheracide's music, but there are almost a hundred thousand potential listeners hahaha
Tudris	Date: July 17, 2003 @ 7:27 AM Mmmmm.... Potential listeners, you have a point there. For that, I think Jennae's experiment would work pretty well. Plus, you could promote yourself elsewhere, such as your personal site (if you have one), your email signature, and anywhere else that you have any influence over the content. That includes phoneline posts and convenience store windows. Jesuszilla, I agree with you wholly on the Zergling rush. I've got Warcraft III, but haven't gotten too far into it yet. I'm Jonesing for SC too much.
Etheracide	Date: July 17, 2003 @ 8:00 AM That might work if I ever mailed anyone hahaMost of the people that engage in conversation with me are on whenever I am so I really don't have to mail them since they are on to talk with me when I am. haha I've told more than enough people and I've posted it on my "online diary"...but you still can't deny how many people would be here to listen if ALL members actually listened to any of the artists =o)
Tudris	Date: July 17, 2003 @ 8:54 PM True, true.
blooddshedd	Date: July 17, 2003 @ 11:29 PM lbscold lost 10 inches from his penis because of these new people
wlfhcommishjava	Date: July 22, 2003 @ 3:42 AM im a newbie! i plan posting for a while. just checking out this site. i really like the features it offers.
acatalept	Date: July 26, 2003 @ 5:09 AM help.dmusic.com? i hope i'm among the minority, but i suspect that quite a lot of the newbs leave as quickly as they come due to this site's [surely unintentional, but seeming to me nonetheless] lack of user-friendliness. i hope this doesn't sound too negative - i really do appreciate what those who run this site are essentially giving away gratis, and i think dmusic has a lot of potential... but methinks maybe it's a bit too hard for some to penetrate that crunchy outer shell to get to the good stuff inside... just my thoughts from the other side of the fence :D" id="55799">here, for one actually been signed up... sorta... for over a month now, but been having so many technical issues i kind of assumed maybe dmusic was going through a rough spot and gave up for the time being. but lo and behold, i'm back - only to find same problems: can't seem to upload music, or even a picture (other than my avatar/webcam thing), and can't seem to find much in the way of self-help (not that i don't mind asking, but i'm a self-help kinda guy ). anyone know if there's any more in-depth help to be found here other than that at help.dmusic.com? i hope i'm among the minority, but i suspect that quite a lot of the newbs leave as quickly as they come due to this site's [surely unintentional, but seeming to me nonetheless] lack of user-friendliness. i hope this doesn't sound too negative - i really do appreciate what those who run this site are essentially giving away gratis, and i think dmusic has a lot of potential... but methinks maybe it's a bit too hard for some to penetrate that crunchy outer shell to get to the good stuff inside... just my thoughts from the other side of the fence
acatalept	Date: July 26, 2003 @ 5:17 AM btw, if there's anything i can do to help, please lemme know - despite being new to this site and it's arcane ways , i can dig dmusic's independence and don't mind volunteering if it can help somehow...
Etheracide	Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:01 AM Well I am glad that you didn't leave and hope that you will find your ways around your troubles because it's very much a shame to lose any members that actually care to take the initiative to be active in the community. As for your problems...since you are experiencing problems that not every one else experiences; look into your OS, browser, version of your browser, etc... It could be the way that any one of these handles the particular PHP that controls the functions that you want to make use of. Not that that helped a whole lot and I really wasn't expecting it to. But again, the only problem I have had was with uploading two of my particular songs but everything else has worked for me. So I would lean towards something on your end more so than the site. Although perhaps something could be/have been changed in the PHP coding to work for your setup. But as a programmer myself, it can be difficult to cover your in every case. Best of luck!
leflaw	Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:15 AM and we are about 2% completed with our plans. We are growing this thing grass roots style. No IPO in mind. Could use investors, but donations and product purchases are cool for the time being. We can't stay totally free for ever , but we are committed to having free basic services for musicians and fans, with enhanced versions and sections for subsrcibers. Also, we are about to develop dmusichost.com as a MSP (Musicians service provider ) for Protools, Wav, Cubase, Logic, Cakewalk, MOV, AVI, Real Video, WMA and assorted file transfers, as well as advanced webhosting. We can barely keep up with ourselves, but we feel we are onto something. " id="55821">We are making great strides!!! Check out the new functionality in the notes section for example ( i.e. our internal note/email system. We added sort and page length parameters. We are about to add outside email CC'ing and attachments. We only have two full time programmers at the moment. But we are definitely off the runway. We have basically taken a site that was almost abandoned ( sitting on Pentium I's with no backup ) and we have modernized it , made it more musician friendly as opposed to fan/listener ( they used to call the bin "trash" ) and we are about 2% completed with our plans. We are growing this thing grass roots style. No IPO in mind. Could use investors, but donations and product purchases are cool for the time being. We can't stay totally free for ever , but we are committed to having free basic services for musicians and fans, with enhanced versions and sections for subsrcibers. Also, we are about to develop dmusichost.com as a MSP (Musicians service provider ) for Protools, Wav, Cubase, Logic, Cakewalk, MOV, AVI, Real Video, WMA and assorted file transfers, as well as advanced webhosting. We can barely keep up with ourselves, but we feel we are onto something.
Svensta	Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:22 AM It's crucial that we all keep up with ourselves. Otherwise we end up with evil twins (with goatees) wandering around getting into mischief and all that. Very scary.
leflaw	Date: July 26, 2003 @ 10:35 AM THE FASTEST WAY FOR YOU TO GET NOTICED IS TO INTERACT WITH PEOPLE. Just like in real life. Lets see your arses on these forums. We'll be checkin yer musik out in due course. If we like it, you get featured at some point. Thats it. !!! Or you can send us $1,000.00 We'll work the rest out Da Management.
acatalept	Date: July 26, 2003 @ 11:06 PM well i'm all the more impressed that this site is what it is if it's still so early in its development... and i seem to have worked out my technical problems (thanks to thumbtack ), so i'm a happy camper and uploading as i type this without incident. and i'm glad to see that things are being so actively developed... i look forward to seeing how dmusic continues to grow. thanks to all involved in making this site what it is
sinai	Date: July 27, 2003 @ 12:39 AM keep it up lef
Etheracide	Date: July 27, 2003 @ 12:49 AM And some members ahem are trying certain things to help expand what this site is. So mysterious!
SinisterX	Date: July 27, 2003 @ 12:57 AM I've been here for a while. Usually though, Im at the boycott site.
UnbreakableTed	Date: July 27, 2003 @ 3:45 AM I'm still pretty new. I'm usually at work. Or drunk. Or both.

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