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zxilton	Date: March 20, 2004 @ 5:21 PM Hey Ben...if you got me pegged as the kind of guy who can't see past theory...then my god man you are reading something wrong about what I'm saying here...LOL. I can't imagine how you've deducted from anything I've said in this discussion to conclude that I'm in some way mechanical. Remember...It is "you" who is the electronic musician..not I. "You" seem to be the one who is well versed in the technical side of music using some of the fancy lingo you have featured in some of your post. I don't give three fucks about theory..not like you are convince I am. I assure I am an artist thru and thru. I do graphic design for a living and msucia side project...I was the one who told someone one time, "Ya know you could have 2 guiatrist sitting there..one who knew all sorts of theory..and the other who knew dip shit about theory but artist creativity....and the starnge thing would be that the guy who knew no theory could potentially create the more interesting piece of music because he is not bound by a stay within the rules mentality." I'm tellin you right now...I live by that thinking. I know a guy who plays the "egg" for god sakes man. As he plays it along with me sometimes when we are sitting around just doing an acoustic jam. I am telling you right now..you got me all wrong here. However if you don't wanna see that and you just want there to exist this problem..I don't mind...heh...I can argue with you about this right til the end of time.
zxilton	Date: March 20, 2004 @ 5:21 PM Hey Ben...if you got me pegged as the kind of guy who can't see past theory...then my god man you are reading something wrong about what I'm saying here...LOL. I can't imagine how you've deducted from anything I've said in this discussion to conclude that I'm in some way mechanical. Remember...It is "you" who is the electronic musician..not I. "You" seem to be the one who is well versed in the technical side of music using some of the fancy lingo you have featured in some of your post. I don't give three fucks about theory..not like you are convince I am. I assure I am an artist thru and thru. I do graphic design for a living and msucia side project...I was the one who told someone one time, "Ya know you could have 2 guiatrist sitting there..one who knew all sorts of theory..and the other who knew dip shit about theory but artist creativity....and the starnge thing would be that the guy who knew no theory could potentially create the more interesting piece of music because he is not bound by a stay within the rules mentality." I'm tellin you right now...I live by that thinking. I know a guy who plays the "egg" for god sakes man. As he plays it along with me sometimes when we are sitting around just doing an acoustic jam. I am telling you right now..you got me all wrong here. However if you don't wanna see that and you just want there to exist this problem..I don't mind...heh...I can argue with you about this right til the end of time.
Maffmatix	Date: March 23, 2004 @ 3:42 AM Haha, you had your daughter make a beat... and it sounded pretty hip hop?? I hate to hear what 'hip hop' sounds like in your mind!
zxilton	Date: March 23, 2004 @ 11:50 AM Welp you'll soon get an opportunity as soon as I get around to uploading a hip hop song I wrote. Have you also intepretated that I am against hip hop too? Will you please read what I am saying...don't accuse me of anything just yet until you really sit there and read it instead of just skimming over it and pickig out the parts that offend you. I am just saying that hip hop is easy to write. I am not saying it sucks. So what if you disagree? Really man..so what? I listen to some of Benrebel stuff that he produced...great recordings..no doubt. The ones by the artist JACE. Plenty of talent there...writing the lyrics is challenging...but the music behind it? Its the exact same riff throughout the whole song..over and over. Each song starts out with JACE saying something which has a strong delay applied to it..and then the songs start...most of them have the same tempos. Just an observation in comparison to what BenRebel said about my music. Actually Eminem is one of my favorite artists..his stuff is definately the most original rap I have ever heard. I also LOVED some of the stuff from the "Save the Last Dance" sound track..."Put Your Ass In To It", and "get your hands up now"... are awesome songs!
Order	Date: March 23, 2004 @ 2:30 PM Here's my opinion on this whole thing: Its a bit unfair to say what you did and attribute it to all the hip-hop artists out there and on this site. There is a great deal of programming and lyrical talent in some of it and it should not be placed into the same category as the lesser hip-hop offerings. In regards to these "lesser hip-hop offerings", I couldn't agree more with what you said. It seems that anyone with an Akai MPC and/or a Triton can make a dance/hip-hop loop that even a single-celled organism can dance to. Its 2 dimensional, repetitive, and boring. This can be attributed to 90% of contemporary rap and hip hop out there and right here. The lyrics are inane and insipid, totally devoid of creativity and real messages. That formula is what sells records and that formula is what people are going to listen to primarily on this site because no one has the balls to make something that combines the good aspects of that music with the popular aspects that will get people into it.
sinai	Date: March 23, 2004 @ 3:51 PM that exact formula also sells millions of records in pop, rock, metal, and country as well Order. or did ya not noticve everyone sounds exactly like everyone else these days?
sinai	Date: March 23, 2004 @ 3:52 PM shit, the way i worded that sounded assholish, not my intention, just my humble opinion.
Order	Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:05 PM No, you're definately right but I only mentioned rap because that was the topic in question.
BenRebel	Date: April 2, 2004 @ 7:38 AM I'm back in town and ready to rumble ..lol..
BenRebel	Date: April 2, 2004 @ 7:50 AM zxilton Did you REALLY say: Each song starts out with JACE saying something which has a strong delay applied to it..and then the songs start...most of them have the same tempos. Just an observation in comparison to what BenRebel said about my music. YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M IN A SESSION AND i had BRING MY ARTIST IN TO READ THERE still LAUGHING WOOOAAA YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME !! OK OK OK LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL OK OK I will give you a lession in hip hop promotion 101 first really !!! did you read it BEFORE you clicked on it to listen? I copied our NOW PAY ATTENTION IT MAY GO BY TO FAST FOR YOU : "MIX TAPE SNIPPET PROMO" now here is the concept ..tell me what you think... YOU TAKE SNIPPET'S (PORTIONS) OF A FEW OF THE SONGS ON THE LP MAYBE A VERSE AND A HOOK YOU HAVE SOMEONE TALK "OVER'THE SONGS IN MIX TAPE FASHION YOU HAND THEM OUT AS "FREE" PROMOS FOR THE UP COMING LP .. YOU DUMB ASS LOL " id="93925"> zxilton Did you REALLY say: Each song starts out with JACE saying something which has a strong delay applied to it..and then the songs start...most of them have the same tempos. Just an observation in comparison to what BenRebel said about my music. YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M IN A SESSION AND i had BRING MY ARTIST IN TO READ THERE still LAUGHING WOOOAAA YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME !! OK OK OK LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL OK OK I will give you a lession in hip hop promotion 101 first really !!! did you read it BEFORE you clicked on it to listen? I copied our NOW PAY ATTENTION IT MAY GO BY TO FAST FOR YOU : "MIX TAPE SNIPPET PROMO" now here is the concept ..tell me what you think... YOU TAKE SNIPPET'S (PORTIONS) OF A FEW OF THE SONGS ON THE LP MAYBE A VERSE AND A HOOK YOU HAVE SOMEONE TALK "OVER'THE SONGS IN MIX TAPE FASHION YOU HAND THEM OUT AS "FREE" PROMOS FOR THE UP COMING LP .. YOU DUMB ASS LOL
kingo	Date: April 2, 2004 @ 7:59 AM Great Ansu there is a ton of message in this message. I can't even get to the end, so I'm responding to something sinai said, "if it makes a noise and suits you to learn it, play that damn coffee can!" Indeed!
BenRebel	Date: April 2, 2004 @ 8:24 AM ALL THE SNIPPETS OF THE SONGS LISTED FROM THE PROMO OF THE "JACE THE NAME" LP WWW.JACETHEGREAT.COM WERE DONE IN TRUE SONG FORMAT I-V-C-V-VM-OUT LESSION (2) SUDDLE CHANGES THROUGH OUT A 16 OR 8 BAR RUN SOMETIMES MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT IF YOU ARE ABLE (DOUBT) TO MENTALLY REMOVE THE VOCAL YOU WILL SEE IN FACT IT IS NOT "exact same riff throughout the whole song" HMM BESIDES THE FACT THE WHOLE SONG NEVER PLAYS ONLY UP TO 1:30 OR SO INTO THE SONG LESSION (3) "KNOWLEDGE WILL KEEP YOU FROM LOOKING LIKE A DUMB ASS EVERY TIME" If I sit and listen to Blue grass for a while I may be able to play and writea ok piece could I or would I jump up and say hey Ican write that and be jut as good if not better! without having the knowledge and the feeling of what a bluegrass artist does or feels when writing no I could not.. Every art form in music to great to me.. I commend anyone that does it and loves what they do.. I listen to PANDIT KAMELESH MAITRA He is the master of the Tabla Tarangthe feeling and hidden notes he sends in playing the tabla has moved me through out the years..I say that to say: understanding all music helps you create music from within .. or you have no true music soul just a empty man that can move sound waves " id="93929"> ALL THE SNIPPETS OF THE SONGS LISTED FROM THE PROMO OF THE "JACE THE NAME" LP WWW.JACETHEGREAT.COM WERE DONE IN TRUE SONG FORMAT I-V-C-V-VM-OUT LESSION (2) SUDDLE CHANGES THROUGH OUT A 16 OR 8 BAR RUN SOMETIMES MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT IF YOU ARE ABLE (DOUBT) TO MENTALLY REMOVE THE VOCAL YOU WILL SEE IN FACT IT IS NOT "exact same riff throughout the whole song" HMM BESIDES THE FACT THE WHOLE SONG NEVER PLAYS ONLY UP TO 1:30 OR SO INTO THE SONG LESSION (3) "KNOWLEDGE WILL KEEP YOU FROM LOOKING LIKE A DUMB ASS EVERY TIME" If I sit and listen to Blue grass for a while I may be able to play and writea ok piece could I or would I jump up and say hey Ican write that and be jut as good if not better! without having the knowledge and the feeling of what a bluegrass artist does or feels when writing no I could not.. Every art form in music to great to me.. I commend anyone that does it and loves what they do.. I listen to PANDIT KAMELESH MAITRA He is the master of the Tabla Tarangthe feeling and hidden notes he sends in playing the tabla has moved me through out the years..I say that to say: understanding all music helps you create music from within .. or you have no true music soul just a empty man that can move sound waves
dkeifer	Date: April 2, 2004 @ 8:51 AM I spent years learning to play the coffee can. Worked my fingers raw. Broke two bones in my right hand. Drank a shitload of bad coffee. Kept at it though. Studied with some of the best. Java Slim. Last Drop Lou. Went to Columbia, jammed with some of the guys who invented the fucking coffee can. Came back to the states, went to New York, played in the subway for dimes, got my cabaret card, gigged my ass off for fifteen years, and finally got a job as the 16oz. man with the Folger Orchestra. Toured Europe. First class pussy--the whole bit. Got back and found out that some punk kid had invented a MACHINE that all you had to to was push a BUTTON and it sounded like you been tappin' the tin for your whole fucking life--which I HAD BEEN. Now I live in the god damn gutter. Hope you're happy kid. Spare a dime?
leflaw	Date: April 2, 2004 @ 9:52 AM Weird thread. Problem is, the original post was directed at me, not anyone else, and I didn't respond. Oh well. Better late than never. ________________________________________ here it is -- "it really pisses me off that you have to have a drum machine and some lyrics to get any attention on this site. it should be manditory to make a certain amount of reviews a month. To keep this site real. It doesn't help the masses. What about the guy who puts more than one talented musician together? Too much praise for the one man art form (hip-hop) and not enough attention to honest days work. DM should step up to the plate and get their shit together. Hip Hop needs its own site section what ever. they don't really listen to anything else. So tell me how is this community going to help me?" ________________________________________________________ DMUSIC ANSWER - 1. We purposely decided not to put hip hop in its own section, to see how hip hop interacts with non - hip hop. There are plenty of hip hop sites. We are pleased with the results. Music is music. 2. "Hiphoppers not listening to anything else" is not an accurate statement , as far as my own personal experience with hiphoppers go. I have met Rusell Simmons and Jazzy Jeff, for example, and they are extremely diverse and eclectic in their tastes. Jeff's production company is called "A touch of Jazz". Listen to Jill Scott, a grammy winner. Listen to Isahn , produced by Bastogne and Burnz 3. "So tell me how is this community going to help me?" Ask not what this community can do for you, but what you can do for this community. ( We disclaim copyright in that phrase). We listen to suggestions and criticism's even from non-subscibers. ( We pay a lot more attention to subscribers, obviously). But we are a community. There are many other places on and off the net for personal promotion. Our terms of service do not require exclusivity. 4. We think we have our shit together, thank you. And we think we have some amazing things yet to come. The management. ps - dkeifer ROTFLMAO :wow ________________________________________________________
kingo	Date: April 2, 2004 @ 11:07 AM dkeifer -- that machine really can't match the sound of a REAL, LIVE coffee can player. Sure, to the unitiated ear it might sound authentic, but any other can players will KNOW it's a machine. I think you're just blaming technology cuz you got too lazy to keep banging on your can.
BenRebel	Date: April 2, 2004 @ 11:57 AM lol @ dkeifer Coffee Can'n is not dead!! (but hmmm can I sample you playing ???)royalty's is royaltys I always say..
zxilton	Date: April 9, 2004 @ 11:47 AM Ben, Ben, Ben.... Relax..take some sudafed man. I didn't say Jace's stuff was awful..I didn't say that I hated it either. Some of it wasn't too bad considering that I just don't like a lot of hip hop thats out there. I personally wanna see something new from the Hip Hop community not just a bunch of clones who seem to be wearing each others clothes...talking about how hard assed they are while wearing brand new Nikes and Tommy Hill Figer attire. However...thats just my own taste speaking. The website for Jace is awesome. What I said was just an observation of what I heard from what was posted on dmusic. I'm sorry but every sample you had posted did start out in the way I said they did no matter what reasons you give for doing them this way. Did they not? I don't care if the title said, ""MIX TAPE SNIPPET PROMO"...I'll give ya some advice..don't do that. Most people listening to it would have thot the same regardless of what you're reasonings are. Actually I got a few people in here to listen...people who actually like hip hop. I never said a thing..I just said, 'Ok guys..what do you think of this?" The very first thing out of one person's mouth was, "Welp..sound like some good hip hop..but why do they start out each song in the same way?" People are just listening man..they aren't sitting there analyzing as to why you did what you did upon producing the music. I don't give a shit if you posted "MIX TAPE SNIPPET PROMO" or not. But I do see why you did it. I just think its kind of misleading to alot of people. You can argue with me all day about this but be prepared to call anyone who hears those samples a "dumbass". You as a producer oughta be real concerned about how a mass audience looks at things. For the artist...one of your jobs is to represent the audience in many ways. You have to be the guy who sits there and thinks about..are the people gonna like it this way? The other thing Ben is this, please refrain from the insults...what kind of professional are you anyways? Talking that kind of shit. What are you a kid? First you call me a dumbass and then you say I'm an empty man who can move sound. Heres the problem Ben. I don't really care if you like my stuff or not..I'm not trying to impress you. However..I don' think dumbass is appropriate for me. I'm figuring you probably have alot of equipment in your studio to produce the stuff you do and you probably need it. However if you consider that in my music..I play all the instruments and I have produced my recordings using equipment that probably totals to about 200 dollars or so. Some of the sounds are a bit hot sounding and mabe there is a bit too much delay on my the vocals. Still a damn good effort for someone who you apparently thinks he doesn't know what he's talking about. As for the comment of, "an empty man who can move sound"..hmmm..I think I like that actually. I am an empty man...which means I am not full of myself and full of shit like some I have met. However I suppose I gotta be a little contradictory. You're right I can move sound. I am a man who can move sound...right into an audiences heart. I have recieved several standing ovations for some of the songs I have done. See...you made a comment once before about me being the type of person who wouldn't put something in a song because it techically shouldn't go in there. I couldn't help but remember that this week as I went into a professional studio and the first thing the producer said to me when we laying bed tracks down, "Why did you put those two chords together?...They shouldn't fit together..but somehow the way you sing the vocals over them..they do...All I can say is that it's a stroke of genious!" My response was, "Well because it sounds cool!" Had I been a real asshole, when you made the comment, "...I'M IN A SESSION AND i had BRING MY ARTIST IN..." I could have said something to the effect of, "You did what Ben?...You brough what in a what?..You didn't just say you brought an artist in?" Then I could have proceeded to laugh. See a real asshole would have said those things even if he knew in his heart that the artist he was referring too was a real artist. I don't see the sense in spouting off insults just to get a dig in. So I left that out. You're quite a sensitive dude aren't you? Welp I must go back to writing and recording these songs that I absolutely have idea of what I'm doing. Man I might even add some hip hop in there..which man, I really don;t got a clue about. But first I must go to the shitter and empty myself..just think of the sounds I will move in there Ben.
BenRebel	Date: April 10, 2004 @ 11:31 AM THE SONGS ON THE LP DO NOT HAVE A DJ VOICEover INTRO ON THEM ..if in fact you let someone listen that KNOW hiphop would have said to you "listen man that not the song its a promo of the song.." Dumbass? lol you got offended by Dumbass.. dumbassThat was for you not understanding rap music to know it was a promo and the intro voice was not really part of the song .. but you chose to comment on it before asking.. 2 I'm in the music business so I have a studio soooo? also I know how to use it but it don't MAKE good music for me .. I know and have met people with far less do amazing things .. so that means nothing to me or anyone here in DM hmmm by the way we did Laugh at your comment .. lol as dumb as it may have sound or looked to you ... your comment was very funny ..sorry kid but it was .. that was no way based on your person if anyone else would have said that we would have laughed.. 3 If your going to quote me put it in the right context.. what I said was : understanding all music helps you create music from within .. or you have no true music soul just a empty man that can move sound waves which is something I said years ago in an interview and a piont that went right over your head... and its funny out of everything I did say these are the only pionts you have? .... ... well I will tell you what I will be the bigger man :) your right I'm wrong .. you got heat and the real hits.. I'm just doing my thing trying to get where you are..I will back away .. I look forward to hearing songs on the air waves of which I hope to be a real fan and I will buy the cd let me know when the LP drops.. I will humbly go back to doing what I do and try to make a name for myself.. " id="95011">My piont that you still seem to miss is that: 1 ..That the songs posts are snippets of the LP WITH a P-R-O-M-O-T-I-O-N-A-L VOICE OVER THE TOP JUST LIKE YOU HAVE TO PUT A WARNING ON THE LITTLE JELLY THINGS IN NEW SHOE BOXES : THIS IS NOT CANDY.." woa! THE SONGS ON THE LP DO NOT HAVE A DJ VOICEover INTRO ON THEM ..if in fact you let someone listen that KNOW hiphop would have said to you "listen man that not the song its a promo of the song.." Dumbass? lol you got offended by Dumbass.. dumbassThat was for you not understanding rap music to know it was a promo and the intro voice was not really part of the song .. but you chose to comment on it before asking.. 2 I'm in the music business so I have a studio soooo? also I know how to use it but it don't MAKE good music for me .. I know and have met people with far less do amazing things .. so that means nothing to me or anyone here in DM hmmm by the way we did Laugh at your comment .. lol as dumb as it may have sound or looked to you ... your comment was very funny ..sorry kid but it was .. that was no way based on your person if anyone else would have said that we would have laughed.. 3 If your going to quote me put it in the right context.. what I said was : understanding all music helps you create music from within .. or you have no true music soul just a empty man that can move sound waves which is something I said years ago in an interview and a piont that went right over your head... and its funny out of everything I did say these are the only pionts you have? .... ... well I will tell you what I will be the bigger man your right I'm wrong .. you got heat and the real hits.. I'm just doing my thing trying to get where you are..I will back away .. I look forward to hearing songs on the air waves of which I hope to be a real fan and I will buy the cd let me know when the LP drops.. I will humbly go back to doing what I do and try to make a name for myself..
kingo	Date: July 12, 2004 @ 10:56 AM I'd like to re-iterate: this message has a LOT of message in it. And most of it's not about coffee cans. I really have no idea what most of it's about. I really have no idea why I'm responding again now. I WANT YOU PEOPLE TO... I WANT ... TO.. ER... YOU... I JUST. Criko, it's like... well, you see, MOVING SOUND WAVES, and all this can on this site, and crap, and can't you people just, for the love of all that's tin and nasty, can't you just this once, see, look how it's, all, ALL OF IT, every last, someone man.
djeffectz	Date: July 31, 2004 @ 1:11 AM Rapping isn't easy, that's for sure, and I am not good at it. Nothing wrong or "untalented" about program beats or instruments though. No less talented than a composer writing on sheet music - it's just a different medium. Kinda like saying a computer CG artist has no talent because they aren't using real paints.
MCCUBED	Date: July 31, 2004 @ 2:02 AM YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY SUCKS WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE BETTER THAN HALF OF THE GROUPS OUT THERE NO MATTER WHAT MUSIC YOU LISTEN TO.
saetan	Date: August 16, 2004 @ 11:34 PM This is some real life bitching...
Irelevemyslf...	Date: November 20, 2004 @ 6:57 PM HAHAHAHA! Rap sucks ass.. I listen to Techno/electronic and Rock
TameasDust	Date: November 20, 2004 @ 7:48 PM Gee we get to rehash this again ... seems that I like all kinds of music ... no preferences really ... as for more of a certain type of music being listened to more ... weeel could be that there is more of it ... limiting yourself to only one type of music is like learning to read and never going to a library ... enrich yourself and maybe your life will enrich others
Irelevemyslf...	Date: November 20, 2004 @ 8:46 PM I've tried to listen to rap.. It just didn't fit my kind of personality.. Because all it talks about is geting drunk, doing drugs, having sex etc.. nah doesn't fit me at all..sry but rap is just
SilverShining	Date: November 20, 2004 @ 11:17 PM ROFL!!! Some hilarious stuff on this thread. I lost interest in rap/hip-hop as soon as gangsta showed up and I haven't ever gone back. I personally think rap/hip-hop celebrate societal dysfunction and actively feed the cancers around us. It's not because of the music itself, but the mindset and the culture that has grafted itself into the music.
MickeyBreezy	Date: November 20, 2004 @ 11:48 PM OMG!!! u did not just say rap is all about getting drunk, doing drugs, having sex, etc. u clearly have never listend 2 rap other than the fuckin 106 & park countdown 2 make an ignorant statement like that.
Irelevemyslf...	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 4:28 PM I've listened to rap long enough not to like it...and thats what I noticed about it...When I listened to it..and I know that's not all I know they "rap" about..But thats mostly...So don't get all bitchy with me because i dunno practically what rap people sing about.. I listen to like Three Days Grace, Diesel Boy, Crystal Method, Nickel Back, Linkin Park. etc..
MickeyBreezy	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 7:17 PM ok, then tell me, what do those bands that u just listed talk about in their songs. pick n.e. song of thiers, n i bet i can tell u a rap song, with the same exact subject matter, or message. but at the same time, i can also name a slew of rock songs, that talk about getting drunk, doing drugs, having sex, etc. shit, there r country songs, that talk about that stuff, basically, no matter what genre of music, the same subjects r discussed, so personally, i think that is a cop out reason 4 not liking rap, trust me, its much easier being open minded, u should try it sumtime.
MickeyBreezy	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 7:19 PM btw, crystal method is a direct drug reference, i thought u didnt like talkin about drugs, let alone a band named after 1.
Maffmatix	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 7:33 PM Irelevemyslf... you are obviously not as aquainted with HIP HOP as you are more aquainted with POPULAR RAP. Like Mos Def said in Brown Sugar, there is a huge difference. Rap is like having sex with someone... Hip Hop is like loving someone. Or something to that affect. And Snoman's response to your comment may have seemed "Bitchy" because people like you make that kind of comment all the time, and it's slightly ignorant. But there is some truth to it. A lot of rap is about murder/fucking/drugs... but a LOT LOT LOT is not about that shit. Bottom line.
MickeyBreezy	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 7:41 PM this coming from the king of obscene, I LOVE IT!!!
povertystricken	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 7:42 PM Learn your band trivia before you talk smak. If you were a fan of the crystal method you would probably know the name is not a "direct drug reference". I was told (by Ken and Scott after a show) the true roots of the band name. When they were "nobodys" they had a friend named Crystal who used to drive them around 'cause they had no car. One day a rapper friend of theirs asked "how did you get here, the Crystal method?". And it stuck. Sorry to ruin it for the tweekers, but it's not a drug refrence. Piss on the tweekers anyway.
MickeyBreezy	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 8:11 PM wow, so i was misinformed about the origin, but im not the only 1 trust me. :retracts drug reference statement:
MickeyBreezy	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 9:27 PM actually, u kno what, im gonna stop this arguement b4 it starts. im sorry Irelevemyslf..., 4 any "bitchy" sounding retorts i may have made, ur rite, rap sucks, matter of fact, the only reason i rap is because i dont have the talent 2 make a real music, so i just talk about drugs, jewelry, bitches, hoes, n poppin caps in ppl's asses over a redundant drum loop. my bad, n i hope we can make amends. m'kay?
Maffmatix	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 11:09 PM Yea- cuz in the end they thought it would be cool to be named after a DRUG and also have a cool back story about it.
povertystricken	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 11:47 PM Whatever, I guess I can see a marketing strategy in that. Reel in tweekers just for the name I think that name may have worked against them in the "mainstream". They could have been so much bigger if it wern't for the offensive sounding name. I know when I first heard of tcm and the chemical brothers I thought: great some jackasses are trying to glamourize the worst drugs on earth. Then I listened to their music and I was hooked. The music is dope.
povertystricken	Date: November 22, 2004 @ 12:49 AM Anyway back to the topic at of this thread, I listen to everything. Sade to Slayer to Sisters of Mercy, Crystal Method to Cranberrys to the Cure. When I want to hear rap I pull out classics of the bloody murder crime violence variety, (usually E-40 and The Click) nothing newer than '93. Occasionally it's good to get a taste of the cancerous culture of ghetto reality. It's the bling-bling, love, yacht's, bently's and wealth rap that makes me sick. When I need to hear hip-hop I step even further into the past '88 or so (usually Full Force) I'm fairly open minded about music, I don't like country, top 40 sucks ass also. The only new music I've purchased since about '95 has been techno, electronica, or industrial. Now you know more about me than I would share with most people.
Maffmatix	Date: November 22, 2004 @ 2:09 AM There ya go, you confirmed it my explanation.. and I have no beef with your preferences. No problems.
sween	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 2:50 AM I disagree with the first post, the people I know on this site are into all sorts. Im into METAL!!
sween	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 2:52 AM But I do agree with the rest of what you said
sween	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 2:54 AM ...If you see what I mean, I kinda contradicted myself there... hmmm oh well, you know what I mean
Irelevemyslf...	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 8:59 PM I didn't say I didn't like talking about drugs..I just said I dislike rap and i just mentioned the things they talked about...and i'll tall yout he reasons why i dont' like rap..Maybe its not all about the words. its mostly just the music I hate...and Maybe I just dislike practically all the rappers...But i didn't clearly say I hated rap because of what they talked about..I know I said thats practically all it talks about..I know Rock says that kind of shit to but at least its interesting to listen too..
MickeyBreezy	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 11:11 PM povertystricken--i luv E-40! uhh, every1else--i still suck!

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