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Making a below average vocal track sound good

05steve	Date: February 5, 2007 @ 8:51 PM AM working on my vocals...han't used them in a while...and need to make them sound as good as I can with the help of modern tech..I have a rnc compressor as well as a preamp and a good mic..any tips/tricks would be apreciated...I'm a musician first and a average at best vocalist.
imemine	Date: February 5, 2007 @ 8:55 PM The rnc peice is decent! I posted something a year or so ago that might help. Wish I could remember where it is.
evansorchid	Date: February 5, 2007 @ 9:03 PM I've had some success with multitracking. Record at least four takes of the exact same vocal melody then EQ them slightly differently. Try to sing the vocals exactly the same each take. This seems to create a natural chorusing effect and fills out the EQ spectrum. Multitrack any vocal harmonies as well.
GeneHilbert	Date: February 6, 2007 @ 11:01 AM Practice singing...... that is the best advice anyone can offer. Technology is amazing but it can only do so much. I've never heard you sing, but the trick is to record your best vocals. The rule of thumb in recording anything is “Crap in = crap out”……… There is no such thing as fix it in the mix.
05steve	Date: February 7, 2007 @ 7:07 PM On 5th Feb 2009, imemine said: The rnc peice is decent! I posted something a year or so ago that might help. Wish I could remember where it is. On 5th Feb 2009, imemine said: The rnc peice is decent! I posted something a year or so ago that might help. Wish I could remember where it is. Let me know if you find it!
05steve	Date: February 7, 2007 @ 7:07 PM On 5th Feb 2009, evansorchid said: I've had some success with multitracking. Record at least four takes of the exact same vocal melody then EQ them slightly differently. Try to sing the vocals exactly the same each take. This seems to create a natural chorusing effect and fills out the EQ spectrum. Multitrack any vocal harmonies as well. Thanks, I have my work cut out for me...good tips to know!!
05steve	Date: February 7, 2007 @ 7:14 PM On 6th Feb 2009, GeneHilbert said: Practice singing...... that is the best advice anyone can offer. Technology is amazing but it can only do so much. I've never heard you sing, but the trick is to record your best vocals. The rule of thumb in recording anything is “Crap in = crap out”……… There is no such thing as fix it in the mix. Yea I hear you. Practice makes so so purfect. A lot of it has to do with feeling and eexpression...I can do it playing a variety of instruments cause it's what I do...vocaly its different... I guess I wanted to hear what or how you people are set up for vocals in terms of equipment.
GeneHilbert	Date: February 8, 2007 @ 3:49 PM Mic, pop filter, preamp, mixer, A/D card, DAW, channel, headphones on (music one side, vocals the other) monitors off, hot (-5 to -2db) signal, play track practice run/s, hit record sing & record until you've got it. I EQ pretty flat (maybe a db or 2 boast @ 150Hz to 250Hz) and without effects. All of that can be adjusted later.

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