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Drummers; Are They Musicians?

DJChillie	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 3:37 AM Are drummers musicians, or are they blokes who bash things in the name of music? You Decide...
MindSculpture	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 7:40 AM Of course they are blokes who bash things...but good ones can bash them in time, the really good ones can get a good tune out of them.
Lachatte	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 7:43 AM You are kidding, right?
kingo	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 8:00 AM Depends on the drummer.
Rodrica	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 11:40 AM Oh gawd...it's never a good idea to insult a drummer - they are experts at hitting things
zedsalt	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 12:15 PM That question is too ridiculous to even merit a response, and yet, here I am.
moam	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 12:44 PM Of course they are fucking musicians... Just because they aren't making a melody doesn't mean they are not musicians That would be like saying rap artists are not musicians. Do you see them making melodies for songs? A band with out a drummer would be...well...not a band.
BOWILLIE	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 12:46 PM ringo starr phil collins don henly carl palmer.. musicians indeed..
gothian	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 12:56 PM This is stupid.... of course they are
GeneHilbert	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 1:33 PM A drum solo like a sneeze: you can tell it's coming, but you can't do anything about it. What's the last thing a drummer says in a band? "Hey, guys - why don't we try one of my songs? ..." What's the difference between a drummer and a bass player? The bass player will move the dishes from the sink before he pees in it. What is the difference between a drummer and a vacuum cleaner? You have to plug one of them in before it sucks. What is the difference between a chiropodist and a drummer? A chiropodist bucks up your feet!! "Hey buddy, how late does the band play?" "Oh, about a half beat behind the drummer." Hey, did you hear about the drummer who finished high school?.......... Me either... Why are orchestra intermissions limited to 20 minutes? So you don't have to retrain the drummers.
MickeyBreezy	Date: October 3, 2005 @ 11:43 PM
Snoogans775	Date: October 4, 2005 @ 12:28 AM I heard all drummers have STDs from monkeys, is there a single drummer here that can disprove it, a single one!?
DJChillie	Date: October 4, 2005 @ 3:54 AM if any of you drummers can come forward and prove they don't have a STD from a monkey, i'll be very suprised....
Cryxan	Date: October 4, 2005 @ 4:02 AM Errrm... yes they are. Does this really need to be asked?
zedsalt	Date: October 4, 2005 @ 12:43 PM I have to disagree with Moam on one point: some of my favorite acts lack a drummer, as do some of my favorite songs. Drums aren't always appropriate, let alone necessary. Gene's orchestra joke reminded me of a story. A conductor was complaining about one of his percussionists, saying, "If he can't play a REAL instrument, hand him a pair of drumsticks". The percussionist added, "...and if he can't play the drums, take away one of the sticks and call him a conductor!"
GeneHilbert	Date: October 4, 2005 @ 2:43 PM LOL - That's Funny
robbydadrummer	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 6:59 AM Rob's Law #9: Never argue with a drummer that has extra sticks! whack
Rodrica	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 7:34 AM @ Robby See what I mean folks?
marcosalvarez	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 2:00 PM see...music is made of rythm and melody..i can feel really cool listening to Bonham´s solo on led zeppelin´s Moby Dick but listening to some (for instance) stockhausen´s melodic experiments is really painful...
hantu	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 3:58 PM erm wether they or aren't alot of bands still need them. and i am pretty confident its not just a matter of bashing things
EtherEclectic	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 5:01 PM drummers in a full band are what keep the band going...just like a marching band, the brass, woodwinds and everyone else cant march for shit if the drum line is missing. neil peart! ever heard one his solos? he rises above the standard rhythm section of a drummer and accually makes melodies with his percussion. now rap artists? ya i dont believe they should ever be called musicians but that is another arguement.
moam	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 6:26 PM It's this simple: Musicians are people who make music of any form. Does this really need to be discussed further?
K3VIN	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 7:05 PM drummers are excellent.. the only ones that suck on avergage are the ones like slipknot that do thrashing i cant stand it..
I7n7s7a7n7E	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 7:07 PM Tell me that a non musician could do this tp://bobbyrock.com/videos/zodsolo3hi.mov
I7n7s7a7n7E	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 7:08 PM http://bobbyrock.com/videos/zodsolo3hi.mov Sorry, how do you mod posts here
tsand19151	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 7:21 PM "Drummers; Are They Musicians?" .... you're joking, right? Billy Cobham..Buddy Rich..Tony Williams..Steve Gadd..Lenny White..Terry Bozio..Elvin Jones..Narada Michael Walden..Bill Bruford..... what a silly question
hantu	Date: October 6, 2005 @ 7:28 PM it takes talent and practice to get good at it, so i don't what the hell they are but they are definetely something interesting
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2005 @ 9:28 PM well considering almost every band and orchestra in the world has drums ... I take it as a good bet that they are musicians ... Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No.9, Op.125 Orch: 2 Fl., 1 Pic., 2 Ob., 2 Cl., 2 Bsn., 1 CBsn. / 4 Hrn., 2 Tpt., 3 Tbn. / Timp., Triangle, Bass Drum, Cymbals / Str. / Soloists: S,A,T,B / Choir: S,A,T,B
TameasDust	Date: October 7, 2005 @ 9:33 PM A musician plays a musical instrument ... A drum is a musical instrument in the percussion family , technically classified as a membranophone. Drums consist of at least one membrane, called a drumhead or drumskin, that is stretched over a shell and struck, either directly with parts of a player's body, or with some sort of implement such as a drumstick, to produce sound. Drums are among the world's oldest and most ubiquitous musical instruments, and the basic design has been virtually unchanged for hundreds of years.
EtherEclectic	Date: October 7, 2005 @ 9:45 PM tameasdust is right, but remember one thing....if you go to a jam session thinking that drummers arent musicians, dont be suprised when you need a Vic Firth stick removed from your eyesocket
Intergalacti...	Date: October 11, 2005 @ 11:08 AM in their own right yes. many drummers can read drum tablature which i would guess is their version of reasing music. I think if you are a drummer and nothing but without having the ability to site read music or drum tablature then your musicianship could be questioned however a drummer with musical background is welcomed to be called a musician. Allso I don't wanna be hit with robby's sticks
Intergalacti...	Date: October 11, 2005 @ 11:12 AM ...and kevin slipnkots drummer is a very talented drummer I would like to bet that only half the drummers on this site could play the kind of things he does,
GeneHilbert	Date: October 11, 2005 @ 11:59 AM Heard backstage: "Will the musicians and the drummer please come to the stage!"
GeneHilbert	Date: October 11, 2005 @ 12:10 PM THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER FROM THE PERCUSSIONIST'S PERSPECTIVE Oh, say can you BOOM, CRASH By the dawn's early BOOM, CRASH What so proudly we BOOM, CRASH At the twilight's last gleaming? Whose broad stripes and bright BOOM,CRASH Through the perilous BOOM, CRASH O'er the ramparts we BOOM, CRASH Were so gallantly streaming? 3 & 1...2...3... 2...2...3... 3...2...3... 4...2...3... 5...2...3... 6...2...3... 7...2...3... 8...2...Oh, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOOOOMMMM; BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOOOOMMMM; BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
zedsalt	Date: October 11, 2005 @ 12:54 PM Where are the paradiddles? It just isn't the Banner without the paradiddles!
Intergalacti...	Date: October 11, 2005 @ 5:51 PM Mae CRASH hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi, Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri CRASH Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mâd, tympani roll Tros ryddid gollasant eu gwaed. snare roll CRASG Gwlad, CRASH Gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad. tympani roll Tra môr yn fur i'r bur hoff bau, O bydded i'r hen iaith barhau. Hen Gymru fynyddig, paradwys y bardd, Pob dyffryn, pob clogwyn i'm golwg sydd hardd; Trwy deimlad gwladgarol, mor swynol yw si Ei nentydd, afonydd i mi. Os treisiodd y gelyn fy ngwald tan ei droed, Mae hen iaith y Cymry mor fyw ac erioed, Ni luddiwyd yr awen gan erchyll law brad, Na thelyn berseiniol fy ngwlad.
Intergalacti...	Date: October 11, 2005 @ 5:51 PM the welsh national anthem on drums ^^
guitaroo	Date: November 14, 2005 @ 8:20 PM Drummers are musicians...at least in my opinion
ryanwilliams	Date: November 14, 2005 @ 9:42 PM my kingdom for a motherfucking drummer. They rock. They save me time. Course I would have to be half-willing to work with one, right?
EtherEclectic	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 12:52 AM some drummers are musicians some just are good at making noise... use to play with one in virginia that only could play one tempo and he would play as loud as possible... he learned alot of very difficult dream theater type stuff with poor dynamic technique but couldnt do a drum roll to save his life... i did my ears a favor and stopped jaming with him.
CarvinAbuser	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 10:47 AM If you don't think drummers are musicians then just listen to Bonzo's Montreux by John Bonham.
hueseph	Date: November 16, 2005 @ 4:03 AM Gene Hoglun, buddy Rich, Neil Peart, Ginger Baker, Gonzo, Zakir Hussein, Michael Narada Walden and another vote for Steve Gadd. Yeah these guys are without a doubt musicians and songwriters.
mrjonnyd	Date: November 16, 2005 @ 7:28 AM Anyone heard of Morgan Agren?
CubedDrummer	Date: November 22, 2005 @ 10:14 PM wow
EmpireDay3	Date: November 23, 2005 @ 12:52 PM what do you call someone who hangs out with musicians? a drummer how do you get a drummer out of your house? pay him for the pizza A child says to his father one day "Daddy, when I grow up I want to be a drummer" the father replies "I'm sorry son, you can't have it both ways" what's the difference between a drummer and a large pizza? the pizza can feed a family of four
Intergalacti...	Date: November 23, 2005 @ 6:23 PM I have a friend who's fifty.... two i think now and he's never had a career his entire life.... he's made money by drumming in bands. hye's never made it famous he's never had a holiday he's never really been 'in the money' but he's done something he enjoys and did it for himself. that i respect him for.
CubedDrummer	Date: November 27, 2005 @ 10:13 AM two musicians and a drummer died in a plane crash today and thats coming from a drummer and i dont have any STD's from a monkey that i know of
CubedDrummer	Date: November 27, 2005 @ 10:15 AM it burns when i pee
RAJE	Date: February 19, 2006 @ 8:01 PM drummers are in the percussive section of an instrumental plan.
EchoMinor	Date: February 20, 2006 @ 1:52 AM drummers get the worse rap as a musician because in a band, if the drummer is really sounding awful, he really destroys the flow of the music. if the guitarist screws up, it can be covered up to an extent, aswell as the bass player. but that drummer completely failing at the tom roll fill just drew the most attention to himself. i played drums in a church once as a stand in for the normal drummer, being a guitarist BUT also a Marching Band Snare player i could play a set kinda, but i did a tom roll fill and didnt too good and everyone noticed that and gave me evil eyes!
100thmonk	Date: February 21, 2006 @ 7:54 AM if they actually can do the job then they are arguably the most musical part of music in some sense. the question is are they really a drummer?
Wildy1	Date: February 22, 2006 @ 6:03 AM I can't believe you people left out Gene Krupa!!
HenriRoger	Date: February 22, 2006 @ 1:34 PM If you need to ask your drummer to play louder he is a musician .
Stercesderised	Date: February 24, 2006 @ 9:16 AM most definitely drummers are musicians...and a good one can make ok musicians in the band sound like fucking awesome musicians
shouhei	Date: February 24, 2006 @ 9:52 AM yeah definetly, pretty obvious really. I find the hardest thing about music is rhythm, not melody or harmony.
pinebilly	Date: July 18, 2006 @ 1:37 PM Thats sort of a misguided question if you ask me. Are drummers musicians? Well where would music be without drummers?? Latin, modern day, rock, any of it? Music needs rhythm mates! Cheers, Pinebilly DJ equipment http://www.planetdj.com
DJEV	Date: July 26, 2006 @ 1:51 PM WELL OF COURSE WE ARE!! DAMMIT!! Well?? I USED TO BE To be a good drummer and to LEARN how to play the Drums, is JUST LIKE WALKING... ANYONE who plays drums can probably say that!! HAving a bad day?? SIT BEHING A KIT!! JUST LET LOOSE!!... STRESS??? GONE!!! DAMN!! I MISS THOSE DAYS ahhhhhhhhh memories!!!
DJEV	Date: July 26, 2006 @ 2:00 PM P.S........ IF ANYONE EVER FINDS out where a drummer named KEVIN HIGGINS is??? LEMME KNOW.. an old friend of mine that is HANDS DOWN THE BEST DRUMMER I HAVE EVER KNOWN!! and wtf is this crap about STD's and Drummers and Monkeys?? I YELL BS!!! umm remember playing LIVE?? ALL THE "Pick me Pick me" chicks ALWAYS go for the "Front MEN" so, in theory? THE GUITARISTS would be the STD DUDES sorry have to stick up for the drummers ** Why does it hurttttttttt when I peeeeeeeeeeeee FRANK ZAPPA oh ya and PS? I SEEN NEIL PERT LIVE!!! NOW THAT IS ONE HELLAVA SOLO!!!!
AMGram	Date: August 8, 2006 @ 10:03 PM this thread is pure idiocy
JamesThomson	Date: August 9, 2006 @ 7:07 PM Without the drummer there is nothing to drive the band or keep time. I'm a drummer and i'm sure as shit a musician. if you think they aint musicians get on a drum kit and play one of the buddy rich solos first time. If youdoi will kiss your feet but i doubt that'll happen.
hantu	Date: August 9, 2006 @ 7:19 PM What ever happened to DJChillie anyway?
Intergalacti...	Date: August 11, 2006 @ 10:26 AM and why is Dj ev shouting so much?
bofbrog	Date: August 19, 2006 @ 12:42 AM think we need to ask a drummer, that is if we can find one.
JamesThomson	Date: August 19, 2006 @ 12:03 PM erm... bofbrog-check my last post. There you shall find the reply of a drummer.
WhyTheFuQ	Date: August 20, 2006 @ 5:04 AM violinists aren't musicians either
Rikki27	Date: August 20, 2006 @ 2:24 PM in short. No
bofbrog	Date: August 21, 2006 @ 12:39 PM sorry James i started reading at the top and guess i missed it. my answer is some drummers like Marc Dubray
WhyTheFuQ	Date: August 22, 2006 @ 9:19 AM i think benard Purdie is a really musical drummer check this vid of him explaning MELODY on the drum set http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/Bernard_Purdiesolo.html
Orion	Date: June 27, 2007 @ 12:24 AM you guys are just mad becuase you can't play as good as drummers " slow down i can't play that fast" if you think drummers aren't musicians then you're not a musician!! like Tameas said "A musician plays a musical instrument" ... the drummer from Slipknot is one of the best drummers i've ever heard!! and like three drummers already posted on here!! theres my

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