DMusic.com | for indie musicians and fans | Free MP3 music downloads - Forums: DMusic's Favorite Song and Artist Award: DM Awards 2007

Forums > Staff Announcements: DMusic's Favorite Song and Artist Award

DM Awards 2007

FraDonaghy	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 4:26 PM Ok...I may regret this but I'll volunteer to organise this. Similar format to past years with certain categories (see below) listed, you have say two weeks to put forward your nominations, then a further two weeks to put in your final votes on the nominees (at most 5 per category). All votes will be submitted by note to me, and as the organiser I will withdraw my own music from the competition in order to avoid a conflict of interests. I propose the following categories - suggestions are welcome to improve it. I will announce when the nomination period begins - this is just testing the water to see who is up for it. Categories : Best Folk Song Best Hip Hop Song Best Jazz Song Best Rock/Metal song Best Pop Song Best Country Song Best R&B/Soul Song Best Classical Song Best Americana Song Best Bluegrass Song Best Instrumental Song Best Reggae Song Best Blues Song Best Electronic Best "Other" Song Best Collaboration Best Male Artist Best Female Artist Hopefully this will boost the site traffic a bit. No prizes other than the recognition of your peers. What do ya think?
ebarbarella	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 4:35 PM awesome Fra! if you need help counting votes let us know one suggestion: Best Rock Song and Best Metal song should be in different categories i also suggest Best Gothic Song considering that DMusic have a lot of amazing songs in that genre
Distilled1	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 4:37 PM best drunk live recording?
Distilled1	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 4:40 PM Best radio play list?
ebarbarella	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 5:01 PM im with Distilled1 good ones Best Alternative song another one
Distilled1	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 6:34 PM Best video of song on Dmusic ..eh?eh? there are a ton now
celtaidd	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 6:39 PM Now, Best drunk live performance; I can live with that
Tattoomom	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 6:55 PM YEAH!
Israfel	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 7:35 PM I'd be happy to help you out Fra! Let me know if you need some help with this.
aflunky	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 7:36 PM Best San Diego Sexy Rapper Singer guy!
moam	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 7:39 PM
Woof	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 7:39 PM One little suggestion: Maybe it would be a little more accurate, to use the term "Favorite" instead of "Best" this time around... It would avoid the implication that anything in second or third place is "Worse", if you know what I mean. And of course I'll be glad to assist, if services are required. Thanks for getting the ball rolling!!!
Distilled1	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 7:44 PM I like that idea Woof as best in music is so very dependent on each persons taste and ear
aflunky	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 8:13 PM Best Flunky on DM?
moam	Date: September 13, 2007 @ 8:16 PM On 13th Sep 2009, aflunky said: Best Flunky on DM? awesome But seriously, if that were a topic, I would pick "Lost Myself" (atleast I think that was the name of the track) That was good shit
FraDonaghy	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 2:47 AM Ok, in line with a few of the suggestions I have no problem adding a separate Rock and Metal genre as well as an alternative one. We can drop the "best" title too.. how about using the phrase "Dmusic Rock song of the year 2007" as an alternative? (for example) Not sure about the video category as they are not hosted on Dmusic and there's no way to go and find them all easily. Similarly with the radio playlist suggestion, I don't think there are too many of them, if any other than Goth nights. Correct me if I'm wrong. I also suggest putting a new category in this year - "DM achievement award", where you can nominate anyone from the site who you think has done something outstanding to promote either themselves or the site through the year. Examples that come to mind instantly would be Guitaroo (appearing on national TV and on stage with Johnny Lang), The Pop Dolls (selling over 1000 copies of their debut CD) or Mary (conducting the DM interviews) - I'm sure there are others! Those are my thoughts so far.
evansorchid	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 8:50 AM Cool, cool, cool!!!! I'm excited that someone has gotten the ball rolling on this. You deserve a pat on the back, FraDonaghy!! The only suggestion that pops into my head at the moment is maybe we could have a category for "Best New Artist". Anyone who became a member in 2007 though say September would be eligible. I just think we should be trying to promote our newest artists as well.
Distilled1	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 10:30 AM Vocal pop station, there is a jazz and blues one (i forget who was doing them, there is a Alternitive one, there s the morning show one. and more but yeah some are never really updated much as it seems hard to get the powers to change the link I guess toss that I was just spouting of stuff lol.
FraDonaghy	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 10:31 AM No probs Rich, I appreciate the feedback.
aflunky	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 11:41 AM Can we have Britney Dancing in the beginning?
FraDonaghy	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 12:06 PM Please.. just call me Fra I was thinking of having a few more days for people to give their opinions and kicking off the nomination period on Monday. Any objections?
aflunky	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 12:16 PM
HenriRoger	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 12:30 PM Great idea Fra Might be nice to have Vocal jazz and Instrumental jazz . ? . Maybe the journals could be in the list as some Dmers have great journals
FraDonaghy	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 12:48 PM I think journal excellence would be better rewarded in the DM Quirk Awards - like the ones Alstroph & Shadowmom organised last year. This is a celebration of the musical talent here at DM Again, with the sub genre suggestions - are there really enough songs within each category to justify their own award? Trust me, the last time we did this there were a lot of genres and in many cases there were less than 5 nominees per section. I think with a wider genre classification it opens up the possibility of a better "competition". As it stands I have 21 categories which I think might be enough to cover the broad spectrum here at DM.
aflunky	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 12:52 PM Maybe I should cover another Hilary Duff Song... Nah, I dumped her ass a long time ago. Duff is So yesterday... Since I'm dating Spears now... She does have that 'Gimmie More' Song... hmmmmmmmm.............
GTOriginal	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 2:56 PM Woof has made an excellent point - I go with "favorite" as this describes the result of a popular vote. I always kinda understood "best" to mean "favorite", still it's a more accurate and less competitive way to think about the DM Awards. I suggest "Favorite Cover", those tunes being one thing that sets DM apart from other sites. Weird Gary Tuckovic suggests "Song Parody" but GTO believes this is the same thing as a cover tune. We are in complete disagreement there, so we are going to slug it out among ourselves as soon as we are done typing this. Fra, awesome that you wanna do this & stir the old DM pot for 2007.
Alwex	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 4:32 PM Great fra, glad someone took the shot. Better get started on finding some tunes for nomination.
aflunky	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 4:49 PM Hint-Hint
BOWILLIE	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 4:51 PM should be a cool one..two years worth of selections
Ghostie	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 10:21 PM Now wouldn't it be cool to have a "Best Listener" ... That's the only way I could get a
Distilled1	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 10:56 PM oh^ yes we need that for SURE!!!!
perkie1973	Date: September 14, 2007 @ 11:17 PM I would like to apply for my former position as a Counter...I bring a wealth of experience. We need an annual ShadowMom Award: given to any subscriber or non-subcriber who promotes, supports, spends time and effort assisting, teaching and encouraging the dmusic family... [You know who you are] Hell give ShadowMom the first one!!!!
FraDonaghy	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 1:02 AM As much as I appreciate the listeners like Carol, this is an attempt to get people to re-focus on the reason we are all here - the music. Without the listeners it would be hard for a music site to flourish but these rewards are about the music itself. Perkie, I appreciate the offer, but I'm going to do all the counting myself so as many people as possible can enjoy the awards and find time to go and listen to the music that is nominated. I'd suggest Kathy could be nominated for the achievement award.
perkie1973	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 1:30 AM Ok..I'll put this way...one person counting the vote is a conflict of interest.
FraDonaghy	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 1:41 AM On 13th Sep 2009, FraDonaghy said: All votes will be submitted by note to me, and as the organiser I will withdraw my own music from the competition in order to avoid a conflict of interests. I'm not putting my music into the competition.
independentm...	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 2:42 AM For the suggested Best (or, "Favorite") New Artist/Song category, how about making it a list of the top 10 New artists/songs of 2007? They need not even be in any particular order. Simply give the awards the 10 top vote-getters. (Hundreds or thousands of new tunes are added here each year ya know!)
moam	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 3:26 AM On 15th Sep 2009, FraDonaghy said: As much as I appreciate the listeners like Carol, this is an attempt to get people to re-focus on the reason we are all here - the music. Without the listeners it would be hard for a music site to flourish but these rewards are about the music itself. Yeah I couldn't agree more. These awards are about the music, not the popularity of the user/artist or the participation at DM.
GTOriginal	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 8:13 AM As a music artist I love what moam & fradonaghy just said. I don't think one can prevent the awards from being a popularity contest, but a renewed focus on the music may be worthwhile. Still the listeners and other support people deserve recognition too, either in a seperate category or seperate award thing. Ghost30 gets my vote
ShadowMom	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 10:21 AM I goof off one day, and look what goes on! MUSIC-- is the achievement. All else is incidental. I appreciate the wonderful kind words, but without the music none of us would be here. And Fra knows any way that I can help, I'm always available-- except for yesterday And if a certain gadfly keeps getting off-topic and posting pictures of painted RIAA Barbie dolls, I have a Repentance Corner all set up...
ebarbarella	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 3:00 PM thanks for adding the alternative genre and separating rock from metal i think if Fra can count them all, its cool but its a lot of work sweetie i think some members just wanna help you. But is up to you when can we start nominating? Lets Have Fun DMusic!
aflunky	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 3:28 PM yay!! Time to dance!
FraDonaghy	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 7:14 PM Thanks Barbie. The reason I am opting to go it alone with the vote counting is because I want as many active users to be in with a shot of being involved in the actual awards, and if they are involved in the counting - they will either have to withdraw their own music too or face possible accusations of a conflict of interests. I will keep all notes in my inbox and offer to allow access to them to an admin of your choice once the awards are over if you want to double check that everything is above board. I'm aiming for nominating to begin on Monday. I will post the rules etc tomorrow evening.. then we are officially off and running!
Tattoomom	Date: September 15, 2007 @ 9:52 PM I trust you Fra! I have no problem with you counting the two votes Wormscrew is sure to get! But...please...do let us know if you need help!
FraDonaghy	Date: September 16, 2007 @ 5:36 AM Nomination rules are posted (a little early, I know) over here... http://www.dmusic.com/forum/favartistsawards/27418
SimonWaldram	Date: September 16, 2007 @ 5:52 AM I think it's brilliant that you're doing this, Fra. I know you've decided to count the votes yourself, but give me a shout if you want a hand with anything else.
Ghostie	Date: September 16, 2007 @ 8:34 PM I understand Fra.. no problem!..... I got my vote from GT.. so I'm happy! Thanks Gary!
FraDonaghy	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 3:46 AM Is there any point in doing this again this year? I'd be willing to do the organising again, if enough people are interested. ...your thoughts?
Tattoomom	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 4:58 AM Is there enough participation sitewide do you think? :thinking: It WAS fun....
FraDonaghy	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 7:21 AM On one hand it may bring a few stragglers back in the hopes of being involved in the awards, but on the other, (as you say Crystal) is there any prestige in winning an award with 5 votes?
ShadowMom	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 8:56 AM Well, if you don't do it, Fra-- and you did an outstanding job, btw-- I will. So save me some work. And give it enough time. A lot of people don't check in as regularly as they used to, but they still DO check in.
Distilled1	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 8:57 AM why do I get a log in window everytime I come to this thread?
ShadowMom	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 9:00 AM I do, too, it asks for authentication? This is weird.... Three times it's happened in the last 5 minutes.
Israfel	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 9:26 AM I get it too. I thought it was just me! oh and btw, I think it would be fun to do this again. I'd be happy to help out.
SimonWaldram	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 12:20 PM I get that too! What the hell is that about? Also, I'd be happy to help out as well
celtaidd	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 12:24 PM Why does "A username and password are being requested by http://3ec.us. The site says: "Gallery" " pop up when I access this thread?
celtaidd	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 12:25 PM
MultiMike	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 12:30 PM I think it will be fun, I will take part for sure
LordTaliesyn	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 12:33 PM The pop-up is from the 3rd post by aflunky. There's an image link in it, and it appears to refer to a link that requires authentication.
ShadowMom	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 3:14 PM Figures it's aflunky -- but what image?
LordTaliesyn	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 3:14 PM Like I can see that..it's behind an authenticated area.
ShadowMom	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 3:22 PM Bingo. Now it's fixed. I wonder why that didn't show up for such a long time, but it's gone now.
AgentMGD	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 3:25 PM i might be busy but willing to help out
LordTaliesyn	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 3:26 PM Well....the image could have been "open" and then recently put behind an area that required authentication.
ShadowMom	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 3:37 PM Not anymore! And I must say, from all the people who have offered to help, Fra, that there IS interest enough in this!
evansorchid	Date: September 15, 2008 @ 3:39 PM On 15th Sep 2009, ShadowMom said: Bingo. Did someone say Bingo?......
Tattoomom	Date: September 16, 2008 @ 9:12 AM There was a farmer had a dog and Bingo was his name, oh! B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O And Bingo was his naaaaame OH! Thank you...Thank you very much.
ShadowMom	Date: September 16, 2008 @ 3:57 PM You do know EvansOrchid cheats at Bingo, right?
Tattoomom	Date: September 16, 2008 @ 4:07 PM How do you cheat at a song?
GeneHilbert	Date: September 16, 2008 @ 4:29 PM Of course we do it. Off of your ass and on your feet. LOL
Rodrica	Date: September 16, 2008 @ 10:04 PM Here's a couple of radical suggestions: 1. To answer past criticisms that winners are based on "friendships/personal popularity" rather than genuinely good music - winners of any category in 2007 (and that includes myself) are not eligible to enter in 2008. Let's encourage new names/talent on this site. 2007 winners should only be involved in helping to run/host the 2008 contest. Seems a fair way of helping new ppl get established here and increasing our future membership. Will mean worker harder to obtain more entrants, but it will be worth it. 2. Let's stop all the presidential election canvassing for votes stuff. Anyone caught sending notes/shouts along the lines of "I'll vote for you if you vote for me", or suddenly/uncharacteristically streaming & commenting on a load of songs to get in people's "good books" will be eliminated. Let's have a good, honest music contest
Israfel	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 3:08 AM Hmmm So an artist who has been active on the site and may have new music up in 2008 but who was nominated or even won in the past year can't be eligible? We have new artists here in the numbers that would make this even an interesting contest? As I recall, many new artists were nominated and won last year. On any given night here at DM there are about 12-15 people on line. The same 12-15 people over and over again. I'm just not sure we have the numbers or the activity here to be excluding anyone for any reason. And the 12-15 people who are always here would be the same 12-15 people who would take the time to listen and vote and participate. I don't know...seems every year this causes so much controversy which I never understood because it's a contest on a website where you don't really win anything anyway. Just my two cents...I'm still willing to help out though if we do this again.
GeneHilbert	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 3:16 AM Just do the thing, if past winners deserve to win this year, so be it. Keep it simple stupid. No references to lip stick and/or pig is intended or implied.
zedsalt	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 3:55 AM Good for you, Gene! All of these references to putting lipstick on animals...from McCain talking about Clinton's health care proposals, to Palin saying that soccer moms are dogs wearing lipstick, to Obama looking silly every time he tries to wedge some folksy colloquialism into a speech...we have GOT to keep in mind that there are people out there who are stupid enough to actually try to apply lipstick to a pig (poor little porker) or a pitbull (poor little soon-to-be-one-handed moron).
zedsalt	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 4:00 AM Oh, but back to the topic at hand, how many people participated last year? I would think that would be the prime consideration; overall site participation doesn't seem to have changed appreciably over the past year.
ShadowMom	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 4:41 AM I doubt we would have enough people join in if we disallowed ALL last year's winners. But what MIGHT help is nominating a few more tracks by different people-- we all KNOW the obvious ones who will be nominated-- then perhaps by email notify the nominees. That could bring a few back and maybe encourage them to participate. That PLUS plenty of time to listen-- that's a very long list of categories any way you look at it.
FraDonaghy	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 9:00 AM Looks like we have a green light then. I agree with a lot of people here in that as beggars for participation, we can't really be choosers and exclude anyone - especially not people who produce good music and may actually deserve an award. Perhaps it would be best just to exclude winning tracks from nomination this time around, in order to keep the competition fresh. It would look silly having the same "Rock song of the year" two years in a row. So.. with that being said - I have a few points of my own before we kick it off officially. - Anyone interested in being a vote counter please note me. I reckon at most we need around 4 or 5... though if required I can do all the counting myself like last year. - Can anyone throw together a promotional image/flier for the contest? - Tell all your friends about this, let's try and get a lot of outside interest in the competition and the site. I would especially love to get a few old members come back and get involved in the spirit of things. - Anyone who has their own suggestions, please don't hesitate to post them. Even if they are controversial, we are all in this for the same thing - to promote DMusic and the music.. our music, so everything will be considered and will be appreciated, even if not ultimately incorporated into the Awards. - Keep it light-hearted and friendly... and let's show the internet a thing or two about good music.
Rodrica	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 10:04 AM I'm one of the "15 people" on this site - I do a lot of listening and I've been a winner last year/previous years: I'd be more than happy to stand down for a year. I think it would give the site more credibility. To answer the lack of numbers problem: How about past winners volunteering to note/shout new members/those who fall outside the "15" bracket, asking them to nominate themselves for this year's contest. I'd be happy to note/shout a few people. A good prize would help too - Leflaw may be able to come up with something. Here's a way to prevent the "canvassing" problem too: Once songs are past the nominations stage and we are ready to vote for final winners, perhaps it would be better for a specially selected panel to judge the final winners rather than it being open to general voting. I.e. a panel of impartial people like, say, Leflaw, Tracy, Shadowmom, RH, Tamasdust, Gene Hilbert etc. Just knocking around some ideas to try and get more members to participate on site. I don't want it to look like we are locked into focusing only on the same names/artists. I think we should at least listen and try to address past criticisms. And Frad...yes I'd be happy to vote count. If organizers were ineligible to participate as contestants, then ppl like myself could stand down voluntarily by helping out instead
GTOriginal	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 12:05 PM Hmmmm... didn't really wanna jump into this thread but.... If a prize is offered, then it is not fair to exclude anyone; it would be like saying "Artists: In the past your music was worth nothing, but now it's good for a hat (or whatever). But you don't get one because you already got the nothing your music was worth in the past." Really just my take lol....
BOWILLIE	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 12:44 PM hmm. whatever is decided..go for it. but whoever runs this thing you got to revamp/do something different than last year. i mean..it was run fine..(thanks fra) but my issue was allowing one artist more than one slot in a genre spot. being i was a winner in one genre (reggae) where another in that genre had two tracks..that caused a vote split for him and caused me to win it..was not a fair outcome in that respect for him.(and i told him so myself i guess because it didnt feel right to me. and others im sure realized the flaw in that rule setup. .......................... and on another note..people who stay away and show up for a win and vanish again really leaves a sour taste in my mouth. but thats just me.. have fun how ever you decide to pull it off this year and good luck to whoever you may be.
FraDonaghy	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 1:29 PM Unfortunately something has came up and I can't be involved with this year's awards. Sorry. You guys have fun!
mandolinlady	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 1:48 PM I think the prize should be a certificate, those few words on a piece of card can mean such a lot to someone
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 1:49 PM Some good ideas mentioned above. I don't think you can ever stop a 'popularity' vote though, if last year's winners do abstain, it will quite possibly be the next most popular being nominated this year too. And also, it is a bit of an insult to say it is all down to popularity contests too. I've had a couple of differences of opinion with some people who won in the past but recognize that even if there was an element of a popularity vote, that the music representing them was worthy of inclusion in the winners circle. I don't think I've ever seen a category winner and go 'What the Heck, this vote must be rigged.' There has always been talent and musical merit in the previous winners and runner up and nominees. I think if a person receives 2 vote nominees, then that artist/group should have the right to rescind one of their songs so the split vote situation is not an issue, on condition that the next runner up have their song included so we don't end up with just a couple of choices etc.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 1:56 PM Also we could maybe consider Best Album/EP Best Video I agree with Rodrica about the publicity issues too, although I don't know how easy/difficult that would be to implement. Perhaps we could have one generalized promotion thread where people can promote any music or videos they did in 2008 and be allowed a maximum of one entry. This could act as reminder or inform those who don't participate in the site often / noobs etc. Anyone not interested in participating could also register their intent in this thread, or a thread of non participation ?
Rodrica	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 9:59 PM I think LQM raised a very good point in answer to those who, last year, thought there was an element of "popularity voting". If we eliminate a load of people, there would still be a possibility that some people would vote for the "next most popular" this year. We can't cover all eventualities The reason I was thinking that last year's winners should stand down however, was just to give lesser known DM members a chance of getting noticed, not because I thought anyone won due to "popularity". However I'm the first one to admit that having been here 6 years, of course more people are going to be familiar with my music than a new member - and we need to balance things out a bit if we are to have a fair competition. Gary, the prize idea doesn't reflect past competition winners in any way. In fact prizes have been given in the past (I think is was teeshirts and hats). It was just a reminder that some incentives might help to encourage more entrants. The certificate idea is very nice too It would have been great to have a panel of "expert judges" from outside DM - i.e. DJ's, professional musicians, engineers etc. I think we all might know a few who would be interested in judging. The problem we always have here however, is that our anti RIAA stance kinda scares some people off, lol. I think this should be looked upon as a good opportunity to increase the numbers here and get more ppl involved.
evansorchid	Date: September 17, 2008 @ 10:48 PM Rodz, I respect you like a sister, but seriously, let me see if I understand this logic. Let say that we nominate 3 ‘lesser known’ artists and put them up against one of these 12-15 people who are ‘popular’, who do you think is going to win? There’s going to be an element of ‘popularity’ in any contest we decide to run. It just seems to me that this idea of exclusion to pacify the illusion of fairness won’t excite any malingering artists to be more active on this site, it would just alienate those who are already here.
GTOriginal	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 12:51 AM I'm really not interested in competing here, or volunteering either. I hope the community gets something out of it this time around... There is no such thing as a purely impartial contest, but it seems Rodrica wants to have a decent one without a whole lot of people focusing on a campaign of votes instead of music. I agree. I do not thing excluding artists or songs is the answer because it introduces an element of prejudice against those who deserve it the least: the veterans of the site. They tend to get left out in the cold on DM anyway and I think that is a big part of why they leave after a while... Perhaps a screening process for volunteers is in order instead. This would serve to keep the contest simple and more honest. Plus it would satisfy DM's weird perversion for exclusivity at the same time. Ask yourselves: Does this volunteer know how to count? Has she ever corrupted an event in the past? Can she be impartial? Can she tell the difference between a 4 and a Volkswagon? Also, volunteers should not be competing with their own stuff. Again just my thoughts. I hope you all enjoy your awards, and may everyone who wants to hear good tunes get their wish. PS - Ruth's "certificate" idea is great. OK time to preview this post. Ready? One...Two...Three...GO!
aflunky	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 2:12 AM I agree with GT on a few things The contest is already limited by the amount of people participating, why limit it more with rules saying we can't nominate you cuz you're too popular? I also agree that certain people leave after a while cuz they get left out in the cold. I've seen people who have com on, try the site for a while, they'll like the community, but when they don't get the recognition they think they deserve here, or if they get better recognition from sound click or myspace, they jump ship. I think we should try to keep the contest as simple as possible, and probably open it up to newer members, or people who hear of the contest on myspace, or something and decide to check it out (cuz most of us have a myspace, and I'm sure most nominees will bust out a bulletin patting themselves on the back for getting a nomination, I know I do)
zedsalt	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 3:35 AM Oh, that one's TOO easy, Gar'bear! A Volkswagen's all pointy, and 4 was invented by Nazis! No...wait a sec'...
ShadowMom	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 4:16 AM Okay, if there are no objections, I said I would do it if Fra didn't... so I will. Give me a few days to set some things up, clear out some space (in my head) and we will begin. I'm going to use Fra's forms, etc. from last year, with maybe a few small changes. I will also give you all a chance to preview the rules and discuss them, but any discussion about side issues, such as what genre a track should be in (YOU decide this!), or voting based on popularity, or some strange exclusion policy that doesn't exist, will be sent to the North Pole. We will also try to set up something so that you can link to your videos, if you would all like to add that category, and best ep/cd could also be added. But whether or not those two categories fly will depend on whether or not YOU will take the 30 seconds to post the links. If you haven't put a genre on your tracks, now would be a good time to do it, because with so many great tracks to choose from, I know I for one will be browsing through the charts. There are simply too many to remember any other way. I might also suggest one more category-- Best/Favorite New Artist. But this is up to you. Any objections so far?
aflunky	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 4:31 AM Nope, None from this side, go mom!
GTOriginal	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 5:28 AM Good thing Aflunky. As you know, objections are merely side issues, and will be sent to the North Pole with the rest. Seriouisly, count me out and good luck to all of you!
Distilled1	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 5:40 AM Mom who has control of the DMusic.com MySpace page????? I will make a nice graphic if some one will post it there on the top of the page at my space and in the page (not as a comment!!!) as well as send a bulletin out from the DMusic.com myspace page to all the friends list!!! and a blog post as well announcing this. The DMusic.com myspace page is a completely untapped advertising space! and many of the lost sheep are friends... as well as many that are not here that very well could be! I'm all for helping out with what ever I can... And Empire Day please all take this as an opt out from the band. if you want to nominate my bad solo crap that's fine
Tattoomom	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 7:36 AM I have no complaints whatsoever
ShadowMom	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 9:55 AM Suggestions are welcome-- as long as they're constructive, but this is primarily designed to get all of YOU involved. It's a nice tool for advertising, but it shouldn't be the prime focus. And before everyone says they're opting out, don't you think you might be getting a little bit ahead of yourselves? Shouldn't you at least wait until you're nominated? Distilled1, I don't know for sure who controls the MySpace page, but my bet would be Tracy. I'm hoping to get a mass email out to all our "lost sheep" -- maybe a DMusic newsletter, but I also don't control that. And I think Ruth's idea of a nice certificate for your wall is a great idea-- but I'm not a graphic artist. So ideas for this would be wonderful. I will have a form up later, if you don't want to participate, just send it to me. But relax, people, and have fun listening-- that's what this is all about! Taking all your tracks down and finding fault with everything is not going to make this contest a success. Get involved!!
GeneHilbert	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 9:58 AM Rodz - you're in - now live with it...... LOL
ShadowMom	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 11:07 AM Gene, you bossy thang!
Rodrica	Date: September 18, 2008 @ 8:17 PM Gene, Shadowmom, Evansorchid - Just want to say that I wasn't getting ahead of myself by offering to help instead of participating. Last year I, along with some other winners received some criticisms that we had an unfair advantage due to the fact we are long-standing members. I also received "complaints" because some ppl thought I didn't vote for them (well...I couldn't vote for everyone so I just picked the best songs!). I took on board their concerns and was trying to balance things out while at the same time increase the numbers here (which we are in desperate need of). In reality - to keep more ppl happy you would have needed a lot more organizational time (starting to promote the competition around June/July). Outside help such as the prizes being in the form of radio play on stations that play signed artists would have been nice (or some such), plus a panel of final judges made up of a few music industry professionals - that would have helped to spread the word about DMusic and the competition (maybe in return for some publicity for those ppl on this site). And before everyone piles and says I'm dreaming - I guarantee I could have organized that kind of competition and know some ppl who would have been happy to help. But this year - you're on a tight schedule and I wish you luck. And Gene - I love it when you're masterful...
ShadowMom	Date: September 23, 2008 @ 7:22 AM I'm working on the details for this, and I'll let you know as soon as everything's set!

Post A Reply
From:	guest	(Icons - Linking)
Post: