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Jesuszilla	Date: September 4, 2004 @ 7:03 PM I was just wondering why any songs I hear that are done in Fruity Loops are really loud, is it just the program or people blasing the hell out of the volume in something like Goldwave? 'Cause I always find myself turning the volume down for FL stuff. I used to worry about the volume level of my songs but now I know it doesn't matter, that it's best to have a quieter song that doesn't have sound fuck ups and will sound better overall. Maybe it's just me but with a lot of FL stuff I hear it sounds too loud. I don't use the program, maybe I'm just imagining things...
spiralmux	Date: September 5, 2004 @ 4:39 AM less and if you don't see this option you are crazy
Jesuszilla	Date: September 5, 2004 @ 11:02 AM Are you talking about in Fruity Loops? I don't use it, that's why I was asking if that's what you meant.
djeffectz	Date: September 5, 2004 @ 11:23 PM My first Fruity Loops songs were all too quiet. The limitation of FL (that I can figure out anyway) is that you can't fade volume with the same control as in other programs like Cubase. Either full on or full off most of the time unless you wanna edit each individual note on the piano roll. You can make stuff loud and pounding without any distortion at all - but even a little distortion is cool sometimes. Just depends on the music. FL is best for Club music and hard house stuff, not so great for ambient, trance, etc. If you are using Fruity Loops as a live instrument all the volume is easily adjustable that way though. Hope that makes sense.
TransAutobot	Date: September 5, 2004 @ 11:26 PM Your talkin directly to me with this one The new song i made is really high with volume. I guess I just like listening to music when its loud, especially when its good
TransAutobot	Date: September 5, 2004 @ 11:29 PM o and ur right, controlling the volume is easy. Trick is, knowing how to balancing it out
DjRiktor	Date: September 6, 2004 @ 12:44 AM True true... FL puts too much of a ceiling on on the volume control, that I really don't like. I like to crank it and route through cubase, since its mixer is much nicer and that removes the kind of blurred distortion from fruity's volume ceiling. Agreed, trans, balance is the key. Learn compressors and use spectrum analyzer I have a hardware analyzer/eq so it helps a lot.. Just listen to a few other songs and start tweak the volume accordingly. In ways, I see your point, effectz, about FL being "not so great" for trance and ambience. It's quite capable of doing that type of music, as it is with any music. You just have to have a good understanding of how to tweak everything the way you want. Fruity is a very under-rated program, it really has very few limitations, and those limitations are easy to solve with other software. But Trance/Ambience is definitely hella intensive on the CPU. Gotta have a good machine to drop good stuff. Until I get a better cpu, I just solo the loops that have a high cpu load, get em the way I want w/ proper automation, render, then drop in the wav Who says cheaters never prosper
TransAutobot	Date: September 6, 2004 @ 12:51 AM lol i gotta take down notes
spiralmux	Date: September 6, 2004 @ 9:11 PM I was talking about nothing.
djeffectz	Date: September 6, 2004 @ 10:38 PM "I just solo the loops that have a high cpu load, get em the way I want w/ proper automation, render, then drop in the wav Who says cheaters never prosper" I do the same thing, but I usually export them and use them Cubase if it gets too bad. I still love the control of volume and effects in Cubase (the editing via lines), can get extremeley detailed with it. I agree with you though; Fruity Loops is a VERY underrated program and I hate when I go to some online forums (or people in person I meet) and it just gets dissed left and right and people say "Fruity loops makes Fruity songs" and "FL sucks it is for noobs!" - Hell no! Fruity Loops is powerful and my favourite music tool, it deffinately doesn't suck and the fact that it's easy to pick up on is a GOOD thing.
djfacemachine	Date: September 7, 2004 @ 1:31 PM hmm... you actually CAN do volume fades with FL using the record feature. i've never had a problem with the volume of my songs being too loud or too quiet (i don't think )
Jesuszilla	Date: September 7, 2004 @ 6:05 PM Yep it's no big deal or anything, just something I noticed when listening to songs. I don't know much at all about the prog so it's nice to find stuff out.
iluminati	Date: September 14, 2004 @ 12:21 AM Hmm. FL is amazingly powerfull, and probably easier to use then any other production program on the market. You can right click and select edit on just about any knob or dial in the program then create a data track to flow through the song. =============== 2 Roland JD 800 1 Roland JD 990 1 Korg MS2000BR 1 ASRX-Pro MOTU 24 I/O w/PCI424 MOTU Midi Express Mackie HR624 Monitors EV ND267S Dynamic Cardiod Microphone FLStudio Producer Cubase SX 2.0 Soundforge 7.0 Native Instruments B4, Pro-53 Novation V-Station Native Instruments Warp VST, Waves Bundle http://iluminati.dmusic.com http://music.download.com/iluminati
plungerboy	Date: October 10, 2004 @ 4:38 PM "FL is best for Club music and hard house stuff, not so great for ambient, trance" I make ambient and trance with fl, i have expierenced some songs are too loud and some too soft, but with expierience you get better at the tweaking. The samples come out especially loud i just keep a db meter on my master channel to make shure im not overpushing it.
DasBot	Date: March 3, 2005 @ 5:38 PM can enyone help me getting my roland jd 800 automation work. I cant see eny signal on my midi modul please reply
CognitiveFir...	Date: March 4, 2005 @ 4:50 AM This great you guys were conversing cause I think the old south is raising against electronic music as it is called like studio musicians are not most elecronic in many means? have you noticed that their is only one choice as far as electronic thats "electronic" and that they have just started a "Vocal Pop" radio here!. That excludes "electronic" I guess. MY entry was removed that I put in here yesterday and the last entries were over 4 months ago! something is up here! I think the ambient artists should start their own site I guess for the old south is on our back!

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