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needhelpdesp...	Date: April 14, 2005 @ 10:43 PM hey, i am making music in fruity loops but am i completely sucker at it. i have alot of questions, but first of all, does anyone know how to make the bass-melody that they play in the song "lautsprecher-omnibus" ? its a trance song, and im speaking about the part where you can hear only the bass playing a nice melody. and also i need a good trance sound, i tried whit trance lead but it suck as hell. i need a trance sample that sounds exactly ro almoust as the melody playing in start of the song. if you dont know what song im talking about download it its a nice song. plz help man il be really glad and if you dont know what the fuck om talking about, plz say it instead of ignoring me. also feel free to add me on msn if you want to help me. my msn is: thekingofalt@hotmail.com
slimerubik	Date: April 14, 2005 @ 11:43 PM the best way to get the sound you want is to tweek it yourself. you just need to learn the physicallity of sound. that's the only advice i can give you. good luck!
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 7:27 AM FUCK! IM SO FUCKING TIRED OF HEARING THAT! ALL SOUNDS IN FRUITY LOOPS SOUNDS FUCKING WORSE THAN WHEN I SHOOT OUR CAT WHIT MY BB GUN, AND I HAVE TRIED TO CHANGE ALL SOUNDS IN 500 FUCKING WAYS AND IT STIL SOUNDS BAD. NO ITS NOT THE BEST WAY, ITS THE WORST WAY. I NEED EXACTLY THAT SOUND, AND NOT, I REPEAT NOT A FRUITY LOOPS SOUND THAT I ALREADY HAVE TRIED.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 7:29 AM and if its not possible to make those sounds in fruity loops, then fruity loops is the worst music program ever. because how the fuck am i supposed to make good music when fruity loops only got bad sounds???
drmichelob	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 7:45 AM Hey man. Chill. You need to go out and get yourself some sound sample libraries to draw from. They aren't hard to find. Fruity may not have what you need in stock sound wise, but it has proven to be quite the tweek tool for me anyway. You can make something out of nothing if you have the right nothing.
iOrbit	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 8:03 AM IF YOU WANT THAT EXACT SOUND THEN BUY THE FUCKING CD AND SAMPLE IT! What version of Fruity are you using? There are some good generators like Wasp and SimSynth Live you could use. You have to buy them seperatly though. You can also go very far buy just playing around with the 3xOSC generator + effects (comes with FL). I'll download the song to get an idea of what kind of sound you're looking for. AND STOP TYPING IN ALL CAPS... DAMN IT!
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 8:56 AM thanks finally some help. i have the song im talking about, but how do i sample it? that would be the easiest way. im using FL studio 4 producer edition. if you help me i would be extremly glad.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 9:44 AM are u here?
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 10:12 AM will someone please help me i have alot of questions, and i suck at using fruity loops, and i need to make music!!! if anyone wants to help me and add me on messenger il be glad. all im good at is online games so if you need help whit an online game il see if i can help you back.
iOrbit	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 1:02 PM Okay so I found the track (I think it's the right one) and the first bass sounds like a square waveform and the second a mix of saw and sin. Now keep in mind I'm absolutely no pro and I'm just guessing. Insert a 3xOSC channel in your file and start play around with the settings. To sample: 1.Put the cd in your cd-rom drive 2.Convert the song into a .wav file 3.Launch your fav wave editor (like cool edit or gold wave) 4.Find a spot in the song where you can only hear a clear bass note. 5.mark that spot, copy (ctrl + c) and then create a new file and paste (ctrl + v) the note there. 5.save 6.open FL and import your newly created file into a new channel (drag and drop).
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 5:20 PM ok but how do i make the melodi that the techno sound plays. you know in start of the song, there is a melody playing in the background, by some techno sample that sounds a LITTLE like the trancelead sample. so how do i make that techno sound? and NO, its not possible to do it whit the trancelead sample, because i have already tried that.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 9:46 PM WILL SOMEONE PLZ FUCKING ANSWER
nickmandler	Date: April 15, 2005 @ 11:16 PM Make a 3x osc, in the browser on the side, pick a nice 3x osc preset. You can do the same thing with the ts-404 for more trancey sounds. In order to make a generic trance sound, make a 3x osc and put in the effects: fruity reeverb fruity filter (lowpass) fruity chorus fruity delay 2 This should get you a nice trancey sound. Now just change around the generator waveforms in the 3x osc to get the exact sound you want.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 7:22 AM ok so what i do is that i: click channels,add one, 3xosc. and when i click add channels, and fruity reveerb it says you can load an effect into a channel.can you plz explain ti so that a moron like me understand it, plz
iOrbit	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 8:34 AM Comments like: "WILL SOMEONE PLZ FUCKING ANSWER" will NOT help you. This is a slow moving forum so you cant expect people will be here 24/4 to babysit you, so calm down. Click on the 3xOSC channel you just created to show that little window (don't know what it's called and I dont have fruity at this comp). In the upper right corner you'll find a little box which probably says "--". This box lets you select which mixer channel your channel will go to (may sound confusing, but it's really simple). Set the box at 3. Open the mixer window and select channel 3. There's a number of slots right below your mouse now. click the button right next to the upper one and a large number of effects will show - choose one. That's how you add effects in fruity. I suggest you read this: http://dl2.e-officedirect.com/fruityloops/Manual/GettingStartedManualv5English.zip
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 8:47 AM Click on the 3xOSC channel you just created to show that little window (don't know what it's called and I dont have fruity at this comp). In the upper right corner you'll find a little box which probably says "--". This box lets you select which mixer channel your channel will go to (may sound confusing, but it's really simple). Set the box at 3. i understand until here and then im completely lost, what mixer mwindows what are u talking about???
iOrbit	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 9:39 AM http://www.e-officedirect.com/FLStudio/documents/SUB_48.html There's a button somewhere in the top-right corner of your screen. that should bring up the mixer window.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 10:57 AM no i found out now, you have to double click on the box where you select "3"
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 10:57 AM but i dont know how to use it
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 10:58 AM i need to make the sound that plays in omnibus in start, i use trancelead and the setup that nick told me, but its not even close
biesty	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 1:43 PM kvr-vst.com can give you good sounds and downloads. when you get there on the top right click on "instruments sounds etc.." it might help you find plugins that you can put into fruity loops.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 4:54 PM wtf i cant download anthing from that site? and the setup nick gave makes it sounds like shit
orgasmotron	Date: April 16, 2005 @ 6:06 PM trying to teach someone how to make good noises in fruity loops is like trying to teach someone to ride a bike over the internet. all you have to do is experiment lots and lots, listen to a sound, and keep playing around until you get it. i know thats probably not what you want to hear, but it's the truth in my opinion.
MindSculpture	Date: April 17, 2005 @ 6:49 AM I'm with orgasmotron on this one... when I first started with Fruity I didn't have a clue, but I READ THE MANUAL (tip) There is still a lot I don't know about FL, but the challenge is trying to work it out for yourself. The sounds are better in FL5 by the way.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 17, 2005 @ 10:01 AM dudes just tell me what buttons to press, what samples to use, and what thigns to chanche to get that sound. just listen to the sound, and then tell me what to chancge in order tog et it,because i have tried to get it for some months now and im really getting tired of this program. some help would surely be nice.
nickmandler	Date: April 18, 2005 @ 12:32 AM No clue, I've never even heard the song, and if you have been using FL for months now and still can't use the FX then you should probably switch to something easier.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 18, 2005 @ 9:47 AM nick do you have msn then il gvie the song to you so you can hear it and tell me what to do to make the sound plz
djfacemachine	Date: April 18, 2005 @ 6:56 PM chill out... fruity loops is a great program. the more you learn about how it works the easier it will be to create the exact sound that you want.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 18, 2005 @ 10:57 PM fucking weak help. i dont have 5 years learning how to make 1 sound. PLZ TELL ME, WHAT SAMPLE TO SUE, WHAT THINGS TO CHANGE IN THE SAMPLE, AND THEN ILL BE SO EXTREMLY HAPPY. IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT SOUND IMTALKING ABOUT ADD MY MSN THEKINGOFALT@HOTMAIL.COM HE WHO GIVES ME THAT SAMPLE TO THE SOUND I NEED, SHALL BE THE BEST MUSIC MAKER EVER. SO FAR UNTIL NOW, EVERYONE HAVE FAILED. ALL NOOBS HERE.
MindSculpture	Date: April 19, 2005 @ 8:08 AM This thread id dead
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 19, 2005 @ 1:02 PM yeah whit proves that everyone here are n00bs and suck at using fruity loops
slimerubik	Date: April 19, 2005 @ 4:59 PM if you are doing this, nobody will agree that you are making music. you're just copying others ideas. that's even lamer than being a noob. you're the only one who's sucking at fruity loops here. i said it. now let's have a good topic to chat on.
djfacemachine	Date: April 19, 2005 @ 6:57 PM jeusus christ. you are a moron. no one wants to help people who are rude. you aren't going to get anywhere by insulting members here, expecially those of us who are NOT n00bs. the jerk store called, the said they ran out of YOU. please end yourself.
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 19, 2005 @ 10:57 PM djface i FACEfucked ur mom so hard that sperm pumped out her nose and if you really are that good, then make tell me how to make that damn sound, NOOOOOOOOOOOOB. you call ur self expert and cant even make a techno sound hahah
csaintg	Date: April 19, 2005 @ 11:10 PM I'll tell you how to make the exact sound!!! Ready? Put the CD in your player. Push play. Go to a music school, and learn how to play some music. Maybe once you start creating something of your own, you will be able to channel your energies in a more positive direction. You can send your copy of fruity loops to me, since it obviously isn't helping you any. Thank you, I had never heard the word NOOB before now. I have something new to tease my daughter with.
Jcross	Date: April 19, 2005 @ 11:13 PM If the instruments sounds bad why dont yall just sample sounds from off of sounds i dont know about yall but i think the instruments i use is good, just go visit my web site on here and hear my beats
Jcross	Date: April 19, 2005 @ 11:15 PM I mean "SONGS", not sounds
TameasDust	Date: April 20, 2005 @ 2:17 AM hmmm needs sounds sorts marcus like ... wonder if needs got that from fruity loops
iOrbit	Date: April 20, 2005 @ 2:04 PM Seriously, I think this may be something for you: http://www.ejay.co.uk/software/product.asp?psj=8C4A81CC-514E-4ED4-91AC-0CED787C1248
needhelpdesp...	Date: April 20, 2005 @ 2:26 PM thanks for all answers I SWEAR BY GOD I COULD HAD MADE NICE MUSIC IF YOU HELPED ME A LITTLE I SWEAR I FUCKING SWEAR
monkvolcano	Date: April 20, 2005 @ 2:49 PM man, you just need to learn about anoluge synthesis. Apart from the drums, that's how almost all the sounds you here in electronic music is made. Like some other folks said, FL has a couple of decent ones. 3xOsc, TR-808, simsythn and all that. Read about this stuff. Basically if you want to get good, you have to screw with the program and ask questions, and looks stuff up that you don't understand. this website has some good tutorials: http://fltutorials.com/tutorials.htm
monkvolcano	Date: April 20, 2005 @ 2:53 PM oh yeah, and you might want to stop being such a cunt if you want people to help you..
djfacemachine	Date: April 20, 2005 @ 6:11 PM this is going nicely.
orgasmotron	Date: April 20, 2005 @ 10:27 PM djfacemachine=pretty music maker. you=pretty moronic monkey. no hate though, just facts. p.s. hows that sound coming along? have you cloned it yet?
MindSculpture	Date: April 21, 2005 @ 4:03 AM I think I know how to get that all important sound you are after... (squeezes butt-cheecks together...PARF(stink)) Did you sample that?
BlackMage	Date: April 21, 2005 @ 11:04 AM Just doh it." id="131930">Just doh it.
stfunoob	Date: April 23, 2005 @ 4:40 AM 45 replys and none of them was a help. ha-ha-ha
iOrbit	Date: April 23, 2005 @ 7:02 AM The first ones were trying to help but this guy didn't know FL enough to even navigate through it... plus, he's a moron.
jordanthegreat	Date: April 23, 2005 @ 7:15 AM lol, get some fuckin real samples bucko then maybe fruity loops wouldn't suck.
djfacemachine	Date: April 23, 2005 @ 6:29 PM stfu, n00b.
pog	Date: April 24, 2005 @ 11:16 AM There's a whole bunch of basslines in that song.... there's a slightly raspy, (probably 25% square wave) 2 note bassriff with a stereo delay on it at the beginning. Then there's a full bass pulse that doubles the 1st note of the original bass riff. Then the full bass changes into a new, 4 note sequence. Next the song drops back in time to a whole new 4 note sequence. This bassline has a fade in type of characteristic to each note, possibly achived by reversing the original full bass waveform. I believer that is the riff you were referring to. Next the song speeds up, then goes into a faster version of the 4 note sequenced pulse. After this, it goes back to the 1 note bass pulse, and finally back to the original raspy sound then finishes, leaving just the beat for 1 more bar. As far as learning how to create the sounds within fruity, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the samples that fruity has... it's simply a case of operator error. You admitied that you don't know what you're doing, so try to be patient and listen to the answers that you are being given. To simply tell you to push this button, twiddle that button, without knowing exactly WHY we are telling you to push these buttons, especially when dials are involved, will in effect get you nowhere, because you don't know why you're turning particular knobs and buttons in the first place. Now... it would appear that you are having problems with choosing the correct sounds to use... as I (and a lot of other previous posts) have stated.... fruity sounds and plugins can achive the sounds you want, but it may be easier to start with sounds that are closer to the sounds you're trying to make. So feel free to use samples that you find by doing a google search for loops and samples, as there's plenty of sites around that have good free samples. Next, try to learn how to use the fx banks in fruityloops... this involves assigning a sample to an fx bank (i.e. change the -- on a sample to a number like 01) then go the fx panel and mess around with the effects in that group. To make a lot of samples sound good, you need to utilise an e.q. and try to remember that when you are setting an e.q. start with the treble knob and go "too much.... not enough... too much... not enough..." flipping it backwards and forwards until you find the level you are trying to achive.... then work your way along until you get to your bass frequencies .... always work from treble to bass because if you tweek the bass first, then you won't be able to hear the treble frequencies. Now.... please go away and think about it, instead of abusing people because you know you are being impatient with yourself.