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Pitching bass drum to bassline

plungerboy	Date: September 13, 2006 @ 5:48 PM Does anyone have an idea how to pitch your kick drum to your bass line. I have accomplished this but it's a lot of effort and I'm sure there must be an easier way to do it.
Fraser	Date: September 13, 2006 @ 7:35 PM Whatcha mean? I'm not sure I really understand.
Opossum	Date: September 14, 2006 @ 12:09 AM I don't really bother with that much myself; depends on the track. There are a few plug-ins but most only work for the Buzz Effect Adapter, such as FSM Tuna man, Fuzzpilz UnwieldyPitch, Chimp's PitchShifter, etc. They might still be available on that buzzmachine site: http://www.buzzmachines.com/ I use Wavelab for pitch changes, but even that's rarely needed.
imemine	Date: September 14, 2006 @ 12:28 AM I prefer the kick to be more of an ambiguous pitch---low end with a slight upper pop. Roll off the rumble and mud. That way if mixed properly becomes “one” with the bass line----Zen like. ---Unless I completely misunderstood the question which is all together possible and what you’re looking is a drone like effect!
EchoMinor	Date: September 14, 2006 @ 1:35 AM i think you got it ime, he wants to know if anyone makes the drum pitch follow the bassline. i wouldnt do it, IMO it would remove the drums from giving the song some backbone. i have to have something driving the song, if it followed the bassline melody in pitch i think it would screw that up. just my preference though.
plungerboy	Date: September 14, 2006 @ 7:29 AM Im not proposing a melody with the bass drum(if thats what you mean). The idea is to have them at the same pitch, but with characteristically different sounds, so as to create the drone effect that imeme mentioned.
EchoMinor	Date: September 15, 2006 @ 10:02 PM well that would be interesting until you started layering other sounds/instruments ontop of it, i fear it might be something that wouldnt easily be picked up by the listener.
plungerboy	Date: September 16, 2006 @ 8:25 AM It's not. Most people don't pick it up in psy trance, though they get the feeling of whats going on. Even if your kick has a gated reverb on, it still gives the idea of parralelism. I suggest you give a listen to either Infected Mushroom - ratio smatio or astrix - Closer to heaven Those are the best examples of this method that I've heard.
EchoMinor	Date: September 16, 2006 @ 6:10 PM oh well i didnt know you were referring to electronic music so i doubt i could help ya.
TheGreenmatics	Date: September 16, 2006 @ 11:20 PM I've done that on the odd occasion, but just for fun... The way I did it was I selected the kick drum on the step sequencer (F6), click on the wee keyboard icon on the top right and then you can choose which notes you want the kick to be on. Does that help at all?
woodhead	Date: September 17, 2006 @ 9:25 PM I know what you are looking for, hmmm well what you could do it is possible and I have heard a song where it was done and it was very cool, the kick was actually replacing the bass and was very cool. hmmm you may need to tune the kicks the way you want individually, then add them in to your tracks where you want them. what Daw are you using, with sonar five you could actually run the kicks through vvocal, but you would have to do each kick on a separate track hmm this is something I have been thinking about as well, if I can figure out an easy way I will let you know.
plungerboy	Date: October 6, 2006 @ 3:49 AM Thanx for all the replies. The problem with changing the pitch like that TheGreenmatics, is that when you change the pitch, the character of the sound changes too much, and you end up with a bassdrum that you dont want, a very sloppy one. I found a plugin that helped me with this problem. It's called Optik. It's a basic drum synth that allows you to modify the pitch, and unlike fruity drumsynth, it is simple with very few drums. I haven't tried it yet, but I think it will get the job done.

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