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Odyssey 1000 anyone?

awflwaffle	Date: August 10, 2002 @ 5:18 PM this thing looks badass, but doesn ayone have any other info such as price or other pics or an exact date of release thanks
mtbatol	Date: August 15, 2002 @ 7:45 PM Crap, listened to their live telecast and they said that they're working hard to release this player around October (not September like I originally thought) . Dag nabbit... ooh well
awflwaffle	Date: August 15, 2002 @ 7:53 PM yeah i just listened to it to. damn i had my usb 2.0 card all planned out too. shit
packers1	Date: October 22, 2002 @ 5:27 PM 1000 should be out no later then november 15th!!! PACKERS1
mtbatol	Date: October 22, 2002 @ 11:44 PM Heheh, leave it up to packers1 to bring the good ol news to us all . But dayymn I think the other dude repping eDig on here said something about the price of 1000 model being close to 400? Thought it was 350!! Ehhhh, and by the time rebate comes in I'll be a great great granddaddy .
ThaCoyote	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 7:31 AM Hehe, I think you mean me, mtbatol! I don't own shares or something and I don't mean to praise edig to heaven, but I think their new products rock. If only they could schedule them a lot better!!! I got the price information directly from eDig's customer support. USD399 for the O'1000 and USD349 for the O'800. That's what they emailed me. That's more expansive than I thought and makes me think twice before buying it. 'Cause PACKERS1 told several months ago that the price would be low!!! I remember that quitte well. What about that, packers?
ThaCoyote	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 7:41 AM btw, packers: What happened to that remote control jack? eDig customer support told me that the specification had been changed and the O'800 and O'1000 won't be remote controlled! Argh... why?!?! I'd love a remote control to be clipped onto my jacket to change the volume or skip a song. I really don't like the fact that this has been changed. Oh, and the OS of the Odyssey's cannot delete files from its hard drive without using a PC. Packers, does the odyssey come with a USB 2.0 cable, 'cause the JBMM doesn't (sucks, cause the cable costs $50)??? Ehmz, one more thing: Browsing the JBMM can sometimes take some time, because it takes a couple of seconds sometimes for the hard drive to scan the folder you're navigating to. How is that with the Odyssey 800 and 1000??? I'd love to have an answer to these questions...
packers1	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 9:09 AM http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?RestartFlow=t&Merchant_Id =1&Section_Id=1142&pcount=&Product_Id=3613984&Sort=" id="24148">Coyote try this! http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?RestartFlow=t&Merchant_Id =1&Section_Id=1142&pcount=&Product_Id=3613984&Sort=
ThaCoyote	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 11:06 AM I like the fact that it uses mini USB 2.0 :) So I'd be pleased if you could answer these questions: - What's the actual sizes of the final O'1000 player? - Does it have a remote control? If not, does it have a remote control jack, which makes it possible to purchase a remote control separately in the future? - The link says 5-band eq. How about 1 custom EQ-setting? - It has Music Explorer software, but will my PC see this O'1000 device as an external harddrive, making it possible to put files on the device using windows explorer? - Can it play all music files in ONE directory in shuffle mode? - Can I store and play music files in a folder-hierarchy that is at least 3 levels deep? - Does it navigate fast? (see my previous post) - Is your information trustfull? ;) Greetingz, ThaCoyote" id="24163">OK, very nice!! But that doesn't answer every question. btw: the link you gave informs that the device is 1" thick which would be thicker than its prototype (0,9"). What's true? I like the fact that it uses mini USB 2.0 So I'd be pleased if you could answer these questions: - What's the actual sizes of the final O'1000 player? - Does it have a remote control? If not, does it have a remote control jack, which makes it possible to purchase a remote control separately in the future? - The link says 5-band eq. How about 1 custom EQ-setting? - It has Music Explorer software, but will my PC see this O'1000 device as an external harddrive, making it possible to put files on the device using windows explorer? - Can it play all music files in ONE directory in shuffle mode? - Can I store and play music files in a folder-hierarchy that is at least 3 levels deep? - Does it navigate fast? (see my previous post) - Is your information trustfull? Greetingz, ThaCoyote
ThaCoyote	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 11:19 AM Oh, btw: J&R doesn't seem to ship internationally I'm from the Netherlands
packers1	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 4:47 PM mailto:customersupport@edig.com " id="24188">Coyote Some of your questions are answered on that page. If not try this! mailto:customersupport@edig.com
packers1	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 4:51 PM http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr072202.html " id="24189">COYOTE http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr072202.html
jdoubleg	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 5:25 PM Stop skirting around the questions and just say that you don't know the answer to any of them. As far as I can tell, all of Edigital's products have been overhyped. Remember how the Treo was going to revolutionize mp3 jukeboxes? Yea that worked out real well.
ThaCoyote	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 5:45 PM Lol :d As if I hadn't seen the news article before I spend half of my spare time searching info on the O'1000 I will write to customer support again. They give better answers
mtbatol	Date: October 23, 2002 @ 8:53 PM Heheh, the Treo really was gonna change the world of mp3 jukeboxes... but there was one problem though, it came out literally a year late . During that year of course Apple took the concept of a small mp3 jukebox and capitalized it with a much more stylish model which is now the subject of everyone drooling. Assuming the odyssey 1000/800 don't get shoved back again maybe it'll be worth some of the hype¿ . btw i remember reading about the WOW sound effects in the initial ADOBE ad on edig website and now they killed that idea too in the updated ad
packers1	Date: October 24, 2002 @ 7:59 AM http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/021008/80154_1.html" id="24279">MTBATOL Try this it has WOW/SRS in it so edig did deliver a player with that in it. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/021008/80154_1.html
jdoubleg	Date: October 24, 2002 @ 9:13 PM Yea but, in case you didn't remember, we were talking about the Odyssey 1000/800. CD players are soooo yesterday's technology.
ThaCoyote	Date: October 25, 2002 @ 7:14 AM Packers: J&R removed the Odyssey's from their product page... why?
packers1	Date: October 25, 2002 @ 12:06 PM Coyote no clue. Looking into it. See what I kind find out.
Your-Mom	Date: October 30, 2002 @ 2:43 PM When the Treo 10 finally came out, I thought eDigital was going to be a major competitor in the HD player market. If they would have released the Treo when they were supposed to they would have beaten Apple to the punch. I think eDigital is making the same mistake with the odyssey 1000. They could have taken advantage of the Windows market when Ipod was not supported. But now that Ipod has a Windows version and Creative releasing the Nomad Zen, I don't think eDigital has a chance. But who knows? Maybe they could totally redeem themselves and release a great product on time someday.
theguppykillers	Date: October 30, 2002 @ 2:45 PM my RCA record player is fly=D
ThaCoyote	Date: October 30, 2002 @ 3:00 PM Their products rock, their marketing strategy sucks, so does their planning; you're richt your-mom... But at least I know it's coming, so I won't buy an iPod or Nomad Zen until this sweety comes out
ThaCoyote	Date: November 7, 2002 @ 1:34 AM Okay, I just listened to the shareholders meeting available as webcast... The O'1000: - Comes out in 2-3 weeks - Has WOW - Has VoiceNav - Has a minimum of (only) 10 hrs playback time - Is slightly thicker than its first announcement in july - Is shorter and lighter than the Treo - Has Voicenav, 5+1 (custom) EQ settings, FM Radio tuner, Combined Line out/headphone jack, direct recording & mp3-compressing function thru built-in microphone (They didn's say if it can record from the FM source) - Can create playlists on the player - Has a scrollwheel with press-function The shareholders meeting didn't impress me. Actually I lost faith in eDig, because of the dull 'uhhhh-uhhhh' guy holding the presentation, the presentation of the O'1000 wasn't well-prepared and the fact that they couldn't show many functions on the player, because it was not yet finished (he sayd the functions were disabled, because it was a prototype... Why would you disable functions in front of your shareholders?!?! Bullshit! That's also what the shareholders thought; eDig stock dropped over 40% today!
mtbatol	Date: November 7, 2002 @ 2:48 AM hmmmmmm, so it does have WOW thingy. That's good to hear. Listening to it right now and it's boring me half to death . And the thing is made out of solid stainless steel while the current treo is now plastic so are you sure it's lighter then that or perhaps you mean back when it was aluminum But woooah, they said it would be also be recognized as a regular hard drive?? Sweeeeeeetaaaah!! But the playlist option is slightly disappointing since I thought there would be multiple playlists for it. And while the lack of remote control support is somewhat noticable at least everything else seems ok. It was kinda funny that not everything was enabled for the player during the meeting so I wouldn't be surprised about 40% drop in their stock . Should be worth watching though despite a few blunders... at least they kept me awake during meeting playing a few seconds of Sade
x2spence	Date: November 8, 2002 @ 2:10 AM What is WOW and how does that work?
EnwTheGood	Date: November 8, 2002 @ 7:40 AM That's the thing in Windows Media Player, right?
ThaCoyote	Date: November 8, 2002 @ 3:17 PM I haven't got a clue on what WOW is.. Just know that it's on the player and that it makes some people freak out, that's all
packers1	Date: November 10, 2002 @ 1:20 PM From what I heard at the EDIG SHM this company will only deliver 1000 Odyssey 1000 players. Jim Collier looks like he may not be with the company in the future. I do not know anymore if EDIG will survive. Things have sure changed at edig. Just giving everybody an update. Latest I heard is now Thanksgiving but I would not take that ot the bank. Plus may only be available e-tail and EDIG WEBSITE. Anything new I will give an update. SORRY PACKERS1
mtbatol	Date: November 10, 2002 @ 3:24 PM only 1000 Odyssey players??? Crap... hope I get my money beforehand so I can be one of the 1000, is that some way to hype it up or is that a bad sign which it isn't. The presentation with the player could've been much better too so I'm not surprised at the arousing questions surrounding everything. I didn't peep out that part of limited Odyssey players so thanks for the heads up packers1. I guess I better stay up 24/7 to be one of the first 1000.... maybe we should have a royal rumble to decide
packers1	Date: November 10, 2002 @ 5:04 PM MTBATOL I heard edig may have had to redesign because of a letter they recieved from APPLE. Do not know if it is true but I heard player looked very different at the SHM. Reason JR dropped player from site.
mtbatol	Date: November 10, 2002 @ 6:42 PM Dayyymn, that's arfed up... So only 1000 players available (lucky somebody who get one) which is to be decided through a royal rumble and the redesign of it too?? Wish someone had a pin camera to take some snippets at it. If this is true that would explain alot of things being disabled during presentation and people hittin the panic button. Well just gotta wait it out for a couple of weeks to see if this player is still going to deliver I guess
ThaCoyote	Date: November 11, 2002 @ 8:32 AM http://www.graveline.com/nav2002/09-22-2002.html This Odyssey 1000 design sucks bigtime!!! I wouldn't find it hard to believe if eDig wouldn't survive. But now packers1 is keeping his voice down, this sure means something! Something bad! :( Well, they've made the Odyssey line together with DigitalWay. I hope digitalway will then still continue manufacturing the player. The Odyssey 100, 200 & 300 are sold under MPIO (MPIO DMB and MPIO DMB PLUS for O'200 and 300) But they do cost a lot more :(" id="25815">Take a look at http://www.graveline.com/nav2002/09-22-2002.html This Odyssey 1000 design sucks bigtime!!! I wouldn't find it hard to believe if eDig wouldn't survive. But now packers1 is keeping his voice down, this sure means something! Something bad! Well, they've made the Odyssey line together with DigitalWay. I hope digitalway will then still continue manufacturing the player. The Odyssey 100, 200 & 300 are sold under MPIO (MPIO DMB and MPIO DMB PLUS for O'200 and 300) But they do cost a lot more
packers1	Date: November 11, 2002 @ 9:06 AM Coyote that link you supplied was not the 1000. You seem to have issues with edig and anything they plan on doing. Sounds personal!! Coyote I do not hide or run you want to go head to head with me let me know I will make myself available. I am here to supply info not to play games.
mtbatol	Date: November 11, 2002 @ 11:16 AM Hmmmmm.... weeeeeeeeeeell... At least the layout looks just about the same (can barely tell from that damn pic ). While the color scheme is much different the layout of scroll wheel and buttons seems to be good enough (or was it in the case)? Well if that is the new design it isn't too bad as long as they don't push back again
ThaCoyote	Date: November 11, 2002 @ 11:54 AM http://www.edig.com). This differs a lot from the iPod. I doubt iPod has patents on round-shaped button layouts! :) I think apple tries to manipulate eDig, 'cause it might fear the O'1000, by using it's power over the 'small' San Diego company. So I think apple throws empty threats at edig. But hey, that's my opinion. Packers1, if the link I posted doesn't show the Odyssey 1000, then what? The silhouette and the ... O'800? "Coyote I do not hide or run you want to go head to head with me let me know I will make myself available." Will be hard since I'm from Holland :lol::D" id="25822">Packers1: Don't take things personal. I love the edig products, I just think they make promises they cannot keep. You gotta say for yourself... What I just meant was: You're always praising edig and their products to heaven. At least that's how it sounds to me. Anyway, now you say for yourself that you're not so sure if edig will survive, so what I said above wasn't that strange, was it? I really hope edig will survive. I like their products and I think they should keep the design as it is (the thumbnail on http://www.edig.com). This differs a lot from the iPod. I doubt iPod has patents on round-shaped button layouts! I think apple tries to manipulate eDig, 'cause it might fear the O'1000, by using it's power over the 'small' San Diego company. So I think apple throws empty threats at edig. But hey, that's my opinion. Packers1, if the link I posted doesn't show the Odyssey 1000, then what? The silhouette and the ... O'800? "Coyote I do not hide or run you want to go head to head with me let me know I will make myself available." Will be hard since I'm from Holland
ThaCoyote	Date: November 11, 2002 @ 11:55 AM Oh, you don't like to play games? What about DMusic Bingo?
packers1	Date: November 11, 2002 @ 4:09 PM Coyote from what I heard it was the hand held video player. Sorry for getting an attitude! Not happy about the SHM management stated all questions would answered and to me nothing was answered. Plus now Collier not incharge I am not happy with prior mamnagement and now they are back in charge. Is it was not for JC edig would not have gotten done what it did. Powers that be made a power move. So hopefully not back to plan 1 all over again. Yes I own 2 players and yes very happy with them. The mxp-100 proved that voice tech really can work would be ashame to waste something edig proved really works. Thanks packers1
packers1	Date: November 14, 2002 @ 1:15 PM J&R has shipped 24 players. Of coarse I am number 25. Oh well at least they are being received. So when I get my player I will give an update!!! PACKERS1
typhoon43	Date: November 14, 2002 @ 4:15 PM Linkage to J&R that shows thay have STOCK? Thanks, I leave in one month for a Loooong trip and I will have to go the Ipod route if eDig can't get it in gear (which seems to be their trend)" id="26025">That's funny Packer, I just called Customer Support 3 minutes ago and the guy said they had no idea when it would be released. I said "can you give me an idea..like is it 1 month or 6 months". He said "we have no idea when it will be shipped" Linkage to J&R that shows thay have STOCK? Thanks, I leave in one month for a Loooong trip and I will have to go the Ipod route if eDig can't get it in gear (which seems to be their trend)
packers1	Date: November 15, 2002 @ 9:11 AM Typhoon I talked to Darrel at J&R ext 1056. Maybe he made it up. I can only stat what I was told!
typhoon43	Date: November 16, 2002 @ 12:31 PM Now it's between the Nomad Zen and the Ipod for me.." id="26126">Sorry to not clarify. the customer support I called was E-Dig's, not J&R's Also emailed them and their replay was that it "should" be available for the holiday season... I can't wait for a "should" Now it's between the Nomad Zen and the Ipod for me..
pog	Date: November 17, 2002 @ 7:24 AM I'm no mp3 player expert, but I can maybe add some insight into the wow function on media player. It is a type of reverb/preamp for bass that in effect adds "surround" to the bottom end. I usually turn this function off, as you can get way more control over bass on the amp than any effect that chews extra cpu power (it can really ruin sound quality on some songs). In fact, I turn all e.q.'s off for this very reason (dial it flat). That way, no losses between the pc and amp occur, and no extra resources are wasted.
Thanos	Date: November 22, 2002 @ 4:20 AM i've read their balance sheet and it is horrendous. This is a company run really poorly from a financial standpoint so i would not be surprised if they went under. In their latest quarterly report there is no mention of their most promising product the Odyssey 1000 which leads me to be skeptical about the product. There is no marketing, no advertising. That is poor. I was told by edigital it would be released in October. Thanks giving is a few days away and no sound company fails to make a product release by Thanksgiving, a day from the biggest shopping day of the year. And i'm hesitant to purchase a product from a company i don't know will be around for to provide firmware updates, and additions to its software. A company run this poorly and that can't get its products to market and strike while the iron is hot gives me no confidence. Look at all the interest but they can't deliver. Typhoon said he is choosing between the Zen and the Ipod. I probably am too now. Read their recent 10Q, they had to take a write off because a partner Dataplay went bankrupt. That should give you guys a hint as to what can happen to a company with a promising idea that can't get its product to market and does little advertising. If they can only deliver 1000, they won't be close to profitable not to mention that strikes of production problems. And in their 10Q their is talk about the odyssey 300 but the most promising product is the hard drive 1000 and 800. But no mention of that. Lots of talk about Voice Nav etc. Big deal. lots of stuff about partnerships with other people but nothing about profitable products. And given their financial straights it seems feasible that they could get steam rolled buy the cost of legal work to defend any suit from say Apple. I'm an attorney an hell that's what i'd due if i was apple. Bury them in costs of defending the product regardless of the fact that they haven't infringed on squat. Its a common legal tactic against small companies. The bottom line is i've red the financials, i don't believe in the company, I don't trust the product yet, and i'm not spending that kind of money until i read glowing reviews and know the company i bought the player from won't disappear in 6 months. I'd rather buy from a solid company like Apple or Creative. I hope Edigital shuts all us skeptics up but i'm losing faith.
Thanos	Date: November 22, 2002 @ 4:23 AM Sorry about the crappy spelling but its 4AM and i'm sleepy
packers1	Date: November 22, 2002 @ 9:21 PM e.Digital Corporation (OTC: EDIG) announced today that its Odyssey 1000 digital jukebox is featured on the cover of the Sunday, November 24, issue of Parade magazine. Actor Kiefer Sutherland is holding the Odyssey 1000 as part of the cover story A New Day for High-Tech Living. The Odyssey 1000 is also featured on the inside spread with a photo, accompanying product description, and e.Digital web site link. Since the November issue was put together during the summer, the photo features the first-generation design. The adjacent photo shows the final Odyssey 1000. The entire article can be viewed on-line starting Sunday, November 24, at www.parade.com. The Odyssey 1000 is scheduled to be available during the holiday shopping season Plus price set on edig website. http://www.edigital-store.com/odyssey1000.html" id="26736">Odyessy 1000 coverage this sunday front page and inside PARADE MAG THIS SUNDAY. ODYSSEY 1000 FEATURED IN PARADE MAGAZINE Odyssey 1000 on Cover of Sunday, November 24, Issue of Parade Magazine (SAN DIEGO, CA November 22, 2002) e.Digital Corporation (OTC: EDIG) announced today that its Odyssey 1000 digital jukebox is featured on the cover of the Sunday, November 24, issue of Parade magazine. Actor Kiefer Sutherland is holding the Odyssey 1000 as part of the cover story A New Day for High-Tech Living. The Odyssey 1000 is also featured on the inside spread with a photo, accompanying product description, and e.Digital web site link. Since the November issue was put together during the summer, the photo features the first-generation design. The adjacent photo shows the final Odyssey 1000. The entire article can be viewed on-line starting Sunday, November 24, at www.parade.com. The Odyssey 1000 is scheduled to be available during the holiday shopping season Plus price set on edig website. http://www.edigital-store.com/odyssey1000.html
Thanos	Date: November 23, 2002 @ 12:21 AM saw the recent pics. Looks worse than the original design. Looks less clean and sleek. I hate the green LCD. I hope you can change it to theblueish but i guess they axed that. too bad. Anyone know if it is compatible with outlook contacts? I'm waiting for the reviews before i decide to buy this over a zen or ipod.
ThaCoyote	Date: November 23, 2002 @ 9:39 AM What the hell? This device is about 0.6 cm thicker than its initial design! I don't know if I can trust their scheduled release date... Many promises... many promises not kept... Lost faith again
mp3daddy	Date: November 23, 2002 @ 8:21 PM I've been strung along for months now, receiving "check back in a month" emails. I'm fed up.
mike773	Date: November 24, 2002 @ 1:07 AM e-digital's tech support is horrendous. I'd stay far away from the company.
Thanos	Date: November 24, 2002 @ 1:02 PM yep too much money to spend if you aren't getting support of the company. I got pics of the old design and the new one. Wow. The old is so much better. And in Parade they still have the old design. What's with the cheap two tone silver and plastic looking black. They should have stayed with all brushed steel. I also heard the Zen is too heavy to jog with comfortably. I wonder how this compares. Right now i think the ipod is still the clear best. Too bad its way overpriced. I may just get nothing.
ThaCoyote	Date: November 25, 2002 @ 9:58 AM I think changing the design has to do with Apple's design and Apple's lawyers... Too bad this device got thicker... Oh, what's 7 oz in grams?
Thanos	Date: November 25, 2002 @ 1:38 PM I have no proof of why they changed it but it probably was do to Apple but thats what happens when you have a poorly run company that has loads of debt and no earnings. If you get sued you have to bow down cause you can't afford to defend. Regardless the change is ugly and why the color change to a black wheel instead of keeping it silver. Why change to that ugly semigreen. The blue looked cool. Does anyone know if there is a remote? I don't see a remote. And will you be able to take send music to another computer cause i got three.
Thanos	Date: November 25, 2002 @ 1:48 PM oh yeah i saw that parade magazine thing and they don't even have the current version shown. And don't tell much i don't already know. I may just save my money and wait til the ipod drops in to a reasonable price. Does anyone know how the weight of the 1000 compares to the zen and the 20 GB Ipod
typhoon43	Date: November 26, 2002 @ 6:24 PM Crap the Zen is too heavy to jog with? You sure? I know it's like 2 oz. heavier than the Ipod but is it the DIMENSIONS taht make it awkward or the WEIGHT? I bikeride a lot so that won't be an issue, but I really want to start running again and this mp3 player is going to be my savior, whichever I buy. Anyone here have a Zen yet? I've played with the Ipod, but GAWD, it's a PC object with a MAC price.. hehe
mtbatol	Date: November 26, 2002 @ 10:23 PM E.Dig wants to improve their already impressive player they should take the plunge and become the first to incorperate the Ogg Vorbis format I mean c'mon... IT'S FREAKIN FREE AND NO ONE ELSE AS NOTEWORTHY HAS IT!??! See this why don't people actually start thinkin for once :shrug:¿" id="27023">hmmmm.. well thanos the player will be recognized as a portable HD so I'm guessing that there won't be any stupid restrictions on song transfer. And if E.Dig wants to improve their already impressive player they should take the plunge and become the first to incorperate the Ogg Vorbis format I mean c'mon... IT'S FREAKIN FREE AND NO ONE ELSE AS NOTEWORTHY HAS IT!??! See this why don't people actually start thinkin for once ¿
ThaCoyote	Date: November 27, 2002 @ 6:18 AM Ogg Vorbis format? I think you're ahaid
Thanos	Date: November 27, 2002 @ 6:38 PM Hey Typhoon, I read that Zen weighs 2 oz. also. But every review i've read mentions how heavy it is. Too heavy for a shirt pocket. So i went to the JandR website. it lists the Zen as 9.5 oz. then on the Apple website the Ipod is 6.5-7.2 oz. the 1000 says 7 oz. So i think that 2 oz is a lie. well i heard that for the some player (i don't recall which) you can drag and drop files but not audio files. As for Ogg Vorbis, I think that will rarely be included in a player because, honestly, very few people use it. I know no one who uses it. Everyone i know uses mp3 exclusively and doesn't want a new format. Its like wma. Most people don't use it.
ThaCoyote	Date: December 11, 2002 @ 6:37 AM E.DIGITAL Odyssey 1000 Portable MP3 Player http://www.jandr.com/JRSectionView.process?RestartFlow=t&Merchant_Id =1&Section_Id=1142&Source=stockalertsorry Will I ever get my hands on an O'1000?! :mad:" id="27860">This is what reached my inbox today from J&R: Dear Valued Customer, Recently, you submitted a “stock alert” requesting to be notified when we have the item(s) below back in stock. We are sorry to inform you that due to circumstances beyond our control, we are unable provide you with this information. At the current time, we are unable to obtain sufficient information from the manufacturer as to when or if we will be receiving another shipment. If you would like to see similar products, click the link below the product. E.DIGITAL Odyssey 1000 Portable MP3 Player http://www.jandr.com/JRSectionView.process?RestartFlow=t&Merchant_Id =1&Section_Id=1142&Source=stockalertsorry Will I ever get my hands on an O'1000?!
mtbatol	Date: December 11, 2002 @ 10:59 AM Hmmmmmm, I sort of figured that eDig would do the shipping themselves therefore giving J&R a big FU. If this is not the case then... well.... at least there's the Nomad Zen
Thanos	Date: December 11, 2002 @ 12:06 PM Yeah Coyote i got the same email. I was gonna post it too. Regardless It's a done deal for me. I'm waiting till after Xmas to buy the ipod or zen but i will not be buying the Ugly Odyssey. I just won't spend money cause this company can't get their shit together. If they can't conduct basic business i have doubts about their ability to support their product. I'm going with a more established company and product. Besides the new design is butt ugly.
ThaCoyote	Date: December 11, 2002 @ 7:09 PM I doubt their support too, but I'm hoping it's initial OS is OK. I don't think it's ugly. I do think their prototype looked way better. The iPod is a beaty, but it's just a dumb MP3-player and no more and way to expansive.. The Zen is nice, though it hasn't got USB 2.0 as I can remember and I don't find the Zen being eye-candy either.
Thanos	Date: December 13, 2002 @ 1:28 PM i agree the zen is no beauty, the ipod is way overpriced like all mac stuff. I liked the original monotone brushed steel design though. This new one looks like it has cheap black plastic on it. But to each his own. Personally i don't need a thousand features. Like most of the stuff on the zen i'll never use. i just want something that can play music well, is small and has lots of storage. i'd like it to display contacts, and be able to transfer files to and from the drive. After that i don't need a thing. I'll never use and equalizer. I'll never use wma files. i'll never rip directly to the player. i'll never need to play a song at twice the speed. It just has to play what i want when i want in the order i want. Reminds me of my old cell phone with 1000 features but was shitty at making calls. So dumb player may be just fine. Its price with ipod that is the problem. I can live without and my money comes to hard to waste it.
ThaCoyote	Date: December 13, 2002 @ 6:22 PM True...true... For me: iPod: Too expansive, no FM radio, no USB 2.0 Zen: No USB 2.0 O'1000: ... probably no support So it is indeed going to be zen or O'1000...
Dural	Date: December 13, 2002 @ 9:54 PM The Odyssey 1000 looked like a real winner, it had all the features I wanted, too bad they won't be shipping by Christmas. A cheap alternative I found is the Mambo X P350, it can do on-the-fly playlists(extremely important to me), has a replaceable lithium ion battery(unlike both the Zen and Ipod), and can be used as a usb hdd. The only problem, which really isn't that big of a deal to me, is that it is only usb though they do have a new version coming out soon with usb 2.0. I've only found one place that carries it, PC Factory Outlet, for $219.
DoggyII	Date: December 17, 2002 @ 4:45 PM Nomad Zen : I don't think the Zen is that bad looking. It is bigger than the Ipod and has a smaller LCD screen but it has a nice metal case that is real sharp, the thumbwheel is user friendly, it feels comfortable in my hand, and most importantly it is supposed to sound better than most of the units on the market including the Ipod. Obviously the price is right too because it seems to be flying off retailer shelves. I just went to cnet to check prices on it and everyone is out of stock on the unit except Amazon AND some retailers have raised the price by $20 - $30! Ipod : A great unit but way too expensive, particularly when you consider the lack of bells and whistles. Seems to me you are paying for the small form factor and LCD screen. Odyssey 1000 : I hear the dock workers strike on the West Coast is still having its effects and that is why we are not seeing some products that were supposed to be out already. Maybe this unit fell into that dilemma. Other than the fact that it still does not exist, it does look promising. Neuros Audio : Nice concept but way butt ugly to me. And seems like a brick. Here is a question about USB 1.1 vs USB 2.0. Does it really matter? I thought the point of getting a 20 Gig hard drive MP3 player was so I could put my entire collection on it and not have to keep swapping files on and off. Seems to me I could start it before I go to bed in the morning and it would be ready to go in the morning.
DoggyII	Date: December 17, 2002 @ 4:50 PM The Rio Riot seems big and outdated, anyone hear if Sonic Blue is planning to update and upgrade their flagship unit?
Dural	Date: December 17, 2002 @ 8:07 PM e.digital would get their act together and release the Odyssey 1000." id="28576">My problem with the Zen is that it only comes with a 90 day warranty while nearly every other hdd mp3 player has a one year warranty. Plus from what I've read once the battery dies after the warranty period is up you are SOL because there is no way to replace it. The Ipod doesn't have on-the-fly playlists and that is the only way I listen to my music. The battery on the Ipod can be replaced, but you will have to pay Apple to replace it and it is already way overpriced. As for usb 1.1 vs usb 2.0 and ieee1394, the highspeed connection doesn't really matter to me because as you said once I put my whole collection on the player I'm not going to be constantly swapping songs and albums off of my PC. Does anyone have any experience with the Mambo X P350? It has all the features I want and is way cheaper than everything else, the size and support are what I'm not sure of. I really wish e.digital would get their act together and release the Odyssey 1000.
mtbatol	Date: December 17, 2002 @ 9:20 PM Yeah I have the P350 and I might just hold onto it just a little bit longer since odyssey 1000 seems to be thrown around in some sort of corperate pillow fight between all the coorperate people smoking the bong in eDig. I would recommend it since it's a solid player, not without it's flaws of course but if you don't want anything too fancy and gets the job done I would cop it.
Dural	Date: December 18, 2002 @ 12:46 AM What don't you like about it? Is the navigation easy, are playlists easy to make on-the-fly, and what about sound quality? Thanks.
ThaCoyote	Date: December 18, 2002 @ 4:56 AM USB 2.0 is important to me. I have an MP3-collection of about 40 Gigz, so I'll have to be selective in what I'll copy to the player; that will go album by album, track by track. I don't like to wait several minutes before I can copy another album or a couple of tracks. I would also like to update the player with new songs in no-time; before hopping off to school of to work. I don't like Firewire, because I have none and it's not backwards compatible. I have USB 2.0 and can copy files really fast and bring them to a friend, who hasn't got USB 2.0 and then copy them onto his computer with USB 1.1 Try that with firewire; nice, but there's hardly anyone who has it... So for me... USB 2.0 is important. Firewire is just as fast, but it has compatibility issues, if you're not a MAC user. I don't think strikes have anything to do with the delay of the Odyssey 1000. eDig said last year that it would be released late spring/early summer.... Yeah right...
Thanos	Date: December 18, 2002 @ 11:21 PM Yeah I'd have to agree with Coyote. High speed is important to me. I have neither USB 2.0 nor firewire so i have to pay for a card regardless. But Coyote makes a solid point about compatibility. My parents have a mac but basically that's it. Most people i know have pc's with usb. And USB 2.0's backward compatibility means i can use the drive to transfer files to my friends and family almost all of which only have USB 1.1. With USB i can use it with macs and pcs easily. But think about this. My music collection at present is over 1700 cds. And and added 1.75 gigs yet to be burned to cds on my hard drive. My entire collection won't fit on a 40 gig drive. nore would i pay for one. And what about saving space for transfering programs. So i would be transfering songs two and from my oddessey,ipod,zen often. in terms of speed i believe you are talking about 1 minute transfers instead of 10. But don't quote me. As for the strike i haven't heard anything about that effecting the product. I'm more inclined the to think the company sucks for the same reason most other tech companies with a stock price below twenty five cents sucks: The people who run them don't know crap about running a business properly.
DoggyII	Date: December 21, 2002 @ 7:36 PM E.Digital on their website. Apparently (as of Dec 20), the first Odyssey 1000s are coming to the US. Check out the letter addressed to shareholders at www.edig.com." id="28944">There is a letter from the president of E.Digital on their website. Apparently (as of Dec 20), the first Odyssey 1000s are coming to the US. Check out the letter addressed to shareholders at www.edig.com.
Dural	Date: January 8, 2003 @ 10:39 PM e.digital has updated their website, the price is now $349 and it will be shipping at the beginning of Feb. We should see more about it at CES which starts tomorrow, hopefully TechTV will have it on Screen Savers, Tech Live, or Fresh Gear." id="29856">e.digital has updated their website, the price is now $349 and it will be shipping at the beginning of Feb. We should see more about it at CES which starts tomorrow, hopefully TechTV will have it on Screen Savers, Tech Live, or Fresh Gear.
ThaCoyote	Date: January 9, 2003 @ 4:32 AM Now sheduled to consumers for 5 february!!! Damn those assholes! It woul've been september and I wanted this thing for my snowvacation which starts on 7 february . I don't expect this shipping date to be fullfilled though...
DoggyII	Date: January 9, 2003 @ 12:39 PM it probably does not matter, they missed the holiday season when MP3 players were HUGE!!! Anyone else notice how empty the MP3 shelves were at Circuit City or all the online sites that had no stock on the Creative Nomad Zen. As far as I am concerned, Edig really has the work cut out for them now!
Your-Mom	Date: January 11, 2003 @ 9:16 AM http://pcworld.shopping.yahoo.com/yahoo/article/0,aid,108608,00.asp" id="30048">http://pcworld.shopping.yahoo.com/yahoo/article/0,aid,108608,00.asp
Thanos	Date: January 14, 2003 @ 12:14 PM http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382398p1.html New Bantam player http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382332p1.html New Iriver player http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382162p1.html New sonic blue player http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382161p1.html The iriver looks tight and all these companies have a better track record that Odyssey. I'm not buying anything til i read reviews." id="30354">I'm not buying odyssey anything till i see these New samsung player http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382398p1.html New Bantam player http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382332p1.html New Iriver player http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382162p1.html New sonic blue player http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382161p1.html The iriver looks tight and all these companies have a better track record that Odyssey. I'm not buying anything til i read reviews.
DoggyII	Date: January 14, 2003 @ 5:23 PM http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-4133160-8-20791242-1.html?tag= ld That little Lyra looks way too cool!!!" id="30360">the new cnet article about the new Lyra, Creative Labs, and Bantam players : http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-4133160-8-20791242-1.html?tag= ld That little Lyra looks way too cool!!!
DoggyII	Date: January 14, 2003 @ 5:29 PM My only concern about the SonicBlue is the timeline. I am not waiting until July or August for a player.
Thanos	Date: January 14, 2003 @ 5:50 PM I don't want to wait either but thankfully the sonicblue one doesn't appeal to me. I don't dig the design. looks kiddy Like colored cell phones or something. But i can wait a while. I've waited this long.
Dural	Date: January 15, 2003 @ 2:05 AM thomson.net and OMG this thing looks great. It has USB 2.0, 20gb, 15 hours of battery life, drag and drop files, and will only be $249 when released this summer. It is also very nice looking, you can find a pic of it at http://www.rca.com/media/images/1,2644,,00.html?STATE=DISPLAY&p=imag e&imageID=700099" id="30391">Was just checking out RCA's press release for their new mp3 players and saw that they will be releasing a followup to the RD2820. I found a picture of it at thomson.net and OMG this thing looks great. It has USB 2.0, 20gb, 15 hours of battery life, drag and drop files, and will only be $249 when released this summer. It is also very nice looking, you can find a pic of it at http://www.rca.com/media/images/1,2644,,00.html?STATE=DISPLAY&p=imag e&imageID=700099
Dural	Date: January 15, 2003 @ 2:12 AM http://download.rca.com/images/rd2821_hires.tif low res(1.5MB) http://download.rca.com/images/rd2821_lowres.tif" id="30392">The link screwed up, try these; hi res(25MB) http://download.rca.com/images/rd2821_hires.tif low res(1.5MB) http://download.rca.com/images/rd2821_lowres.tif
ThaCoyote	Date: January 15, 2003 @ 4:52 AM The new RCA looks great, but it has only little features; it has no FM tuner, nor has it got voice-recording capabilities which I'd use for sure. I must say though that I like the 'like' & 'dislike' buttons. I don't know what they mean yet, but they could mean that disliked songs are not played or played less often at random play. I can now wait another year to buy a player, 'cause I needed one before february the 7th. eDig won't deliver on time.
DoggyII	Date: January 15, 2003 @ 9:27 AM I am seriously considering edig's 15 GB Treo 15 unit for $169 to tie me over. When I decide to upgrade later, I can give it to someone else.
Thanos	Date: January 15, 2003 @ 12:19 PM yep the rca does look good. better than the lyra design i saw. i'm curious about navigation. i don't see a jog dial or a scroll wheel. I wonder how navigation will be through 20 gigs of directories. as for the like dislike being used for random play. I almost never use random play so i don't know why that is such a prominent feature. But hey to each his own. I'm curious about navigation though.
Thanos	Date: January 15, 2003 @ 5:10 PM you know if its only $249 (which would surprise me) i'd deal with any navigation software problems. But i remember when the Odyssey word was getting out and i heard prices about $250 $275. Now i think its up to $400. So i'll believe it when i see it.
ThaCoyote	Date: January 16, 2003 @ 4:41 PM Odyssey is now listed at 349 dollars... I don't seriously expect them to release at the 5th of february... I encourage everyone to do the same
mtbatol	Date: January 16, 2003 @ 8:39 PM Damn, you know what... I just might wait up for the eDig player to see what iRiver is gonna offer. I'm not in a complete hurry to get a player since my hd player is still holding up (though reading it as a portable usb 2.0 drive is very tempting). I just hope they don't omit the other features because as petty as it may sound I look forward to having a realtime clock in a portable player since many times I forget to bring my watch with me when rushing to school .
Thanos	Date: January 16, 2003 @ 11:30 PM I'm not getting the odyssey when it comes out regardless. I'm waiting for reviews of the iriver player, the RCA, (both look sweet) and the Samsung. Even the Bantam. And like Coyote: I don't expect squat from Edigital on Feb. 5th. If its better than the others i'll hear about it. Patience is a virtue. I kinda wish someone would include an AM radio so i can hear the sports radio. I hate FM most of what is on it and would not use it. If i got 20Gigs of good music what to i need to hear TRL radio crap for.
DoggyII	Date: January 16, 2003 @ 11:55 PM I happen to be a big fan of NPR and all of their stations that I know of are FM. You know if you wait long enough, you will probably find an MP3 player with wireless access to the internet so you can download files on the fly and listen to internet radio so you can get all the sports talk radio you could want... ...or how about an MP3 player with built in XM Satellite Radio?
Thanos	Date: January 17, 2003 @ 2:21 AM Doggy to each his own you know? what is NPR? I've heard the xm idea brought up before. First off i don't want to wait that long. Look how slow they are to make affordable hard drive players at all. Not that i wouldn't like it. But the more stuff like that they add the more the price goes up. Then add the $8-$10 per month for the service. Once again with 20GBs what i don't need it. I listen to a lot of rap and they play alot of the same bad rap on xm that they do on regular radio just with cursing. But still i think it will be a cost issue. think of cell phones; every new feature jacks the price up a little. Color screen, 3G, camera, voice dial. At some point they have to cut stuff to make it a reasonable price point. I'm more like the avg. user who will basically only use it for music and contacts & dates if that feature is available. Look at those PDA with millions of features but they cost $800 and most people go buy a $100 palm. We can't forget these companies aren't really trying to cater to us they are trying to appeal to the masses. That's Apples problem. They aren't smart enough to appeal to the masses or we'd might all have an ipod instead of saying, "Damn, it's cool but too few features for that much frickin money."
DoggyII	Date: January 17, 2003 @ 9:41 AM www.npr.org (they have affiliates in nearly every region of the country). As for the additional features, I was really just sort of kidding...you were the one that said "patience is a virtue". All I want is a 20GB player with the ability to create songlists on the fly, it really needs no other additional features as long as it is packaged well. As for Apple not being smart enough to appeal to the masses. Just because we do not like or agree with their marketing policies does not mean it's a question of intelligence...stubborness maybe, but not intelligence. BTW, I too would already own a 20GB Ipod if it was $300 - $350. Instead I am looking for the next best alternative." id="30577">National Public Radio, you find their stations down somewhere around 89 - 91 FM. It's news and intelligent talk radio and you can find your local station by checking out www.npr.org (they have affiliates in nearly every region of the country). As for the additional features, I was really just sort of kidding...you were the one that said "patience is a virtue". All I want is a 20GB player with the ability to create songlists on the fly, it really needs no other additional features as long as it is packaged well. As for Apple not being smart enough to appeal to the masses. Just because we do not like or agree with their marketing policies does not mean it's a question of intelligence...stubborness maybe, but not intelligence. BTW, I too would already own a 20GB Ipod if it was $300 - $350. Instead I am looking for the next best alternative.
Thanos	Date: January 17, 2003 @ 12:29 PM Thanks. I checked out NPR unfortunately nothing there appeals to me in the places i live. Mostly college stations and no sports radio. I'd have to respectfully disagree on Apple. i think considering the ipod their only product (that i know of) that is growing its market share. It seems dumb to fail to produce solid products for 90% of that market. In this case i think stubborness and intelligence are tied together. I think it is unintelligent to continue on a business plan that clearly hasn't worked well. Their plan: pay us more for less compatibility. They are like someone trying to knock down a brick wall with their fist who can't figure out why his hand is broken and the walls still standing. Then he starts swinging on the wall with his good hand. Stubborn and unintelligent.
Thanos	Date: January 17, 2003 @ 12:36 PM http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382983p1.html $249? 20GB, mp3pro & works as a hard drive. Oh boy that may be worth the wait." id="30597">New RCA Lyra Jukebox info. http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382983p1.html $249? 20GB, mp3pro & works as a hard drive. Oh boy that may be worth the wait.
ThaCoyote	Date: January 17, 2003 @ 2:36 PM Looks sweet, but I'd deal with it to rough, so that the display won't last I tend to go skiing with a player in my pocket... It's also too large to put in my pockets.
Thanos	Date: January 17, 2003 @ 3:10 PM well if its too large that's a dealbreaker for me. But i won't have any problem with the display. I won't be dropping it or throwing it around.
Jmac823200	Date: January 22, 2003 @ 11:16 PM Hello guys. I've been reading this post for a couple of months now and I decided to sign up and comment. Initially I was looking to get the Apple iPod since it is the "best" mp3 player out there. The battery problems after a year of use kinda swayed me from it a little. Then the Odyssey 1000 caught my attention with the voice navigation. I then thought to myself that I really wouldn't use the voice navigation much so there wasn't really a point in getting. Now I'm seeing information on the Samsung YP-900. I think this MP3 player will turn heads. It has both a voice recorder and FM radio. It also (like the Neuros Audio Mp3 player) has the ability to transmit wirelessly to car stereos. I think I'm gonna wait and eventually invest in this one. Unless something else catches my eyes before February, this is the player I'll end up with.
Lordmusic	Date: January 28, 2003 @ 2:27 PM Well, I have good news for all you fans of the Odyssey 1000. The product is in and they are just waiting for the big wigs to say it is ok to sell. Come Friday it SHOULD be available at their website store ONLY before they start shipping it to retailers or anything. So if you want this player and how, watch the page. Shipping for UPS Ground is around 9 dollars and 14 for UPS 2 Day. I look forward to getting mine!!! Some other developments coming... A planner and address book and all that may be in the player eventually. I've also heard rumor of screen play like windows media player uses. You know, eye candy. The FM recording feature records at 96 kbps I believe because anything higher could get them a lawsuit. But no worries, that's what SONY does with their minidisk players, they just have enhancers so you can't tell. Well, the Odyssey 1000 has SRS WOW in it, so we shouldn't notice that HUGE of a difference. So all looks good, the firmware is stable, and we're looking at this shipping real soon! ROCK ON! Lordmusic me@elderp.com "What can I say? I love music!"
ThaCoyote	Date: January 28, 2003 @ 2:39 PM ...Sounds promising.. So eDig is really meeting up their 10th deadline on this player??? I can hardly believe it!
Thanos	Date: January 28, 2003 @ 3:08 PM I'll believe it when i see it. Regardless, I'm waiting til june or july when the RCA comes out and all the others like the iriver and samsung are out before i buy. Besides i'm broke now anyways. I want to read reviews and comparisons first anyways.
DoggyII	Date: January 28, 2003 @ 4:06 PM Keep waiting Thanos, by June you will be hearing about the next latest and greatest to be released for the holiday season 2003 and decide to wait. When those get pushed back to Jan '04, you wait and then will be drooling over the CES products coming June 2004, etc. At some point the waiting has to stop and the buying has to begin. First I was going to buy an Ipod, then it was an Odyssey, then it was a Zen, now it is an Odyssey again. My birthday is mid-March and I am buying myself a present..whatever is the best for my money then I am buying and whoever has a June or July release date is out of luck. Otherwise I could be waiting until the next great technology, not just the next great MP3 player.
Thanos	Date: January 28, 2003 @ 11:50 PM I'm happy for you doggy. Buy what and whenever you want. It makes no differenc to me. But i'm not you. I've never drooled over the ipod or odyssey or Zen. I'm sure there are people like you say that do. That buy a Nintendo only to buy an playstation 2 only to buy an Xbox after they realize Nintendo sucks. I will buy one player if it is good. I've read of these people who buy an ipod only to find out it sucks on a pc and is low on feature or they bought a zen and find out it horrible navigating through song directories and has no remote. I'm not throwing my money away on a bad product just cause its out by march or Edig says writes a good spec sheet. The proof is in how it functions. The fact that something better may come next year is irrelavant. If one used that rational they'd have no car, no house, no computer, no software, no job. Something better will always come along. I'd rather be patient and spend my money well. Go ahead and buy it off their website the day it is available. Go ahead and take the leap of faith. I welcome you to be the $350 guinea pig. All i said was i'd wait till june and make an informed decision after reading reviews. The truth is the waiting doesn't have to stop for me. I don't need an mp3 player I just want one. Its just a fricking mp3 player. I got a life and other stuff to do. It's not that important.
DoggyII	Date: January 29, 2003 @ 7:03 AM ...the closer my wife gets to killing me. I need to just make a decision and DO IT." id="31646">I wasn't taking digs at you Thanos...I have been sitting in the same boat as you and I was kicking myself in the pants to do something by writing that post. I am not the kind of person who runs out and buys everything I want either, I have no DVD player, no surround sound system, and no TIVO. Hell I only got a cell phone for the first time last month. I also don't "need" an MP3 player...nobody does. It is a luxury item for most people. However I would like to buy one and it would be a major convenience to finally have it. My problem is the more I research them, the more cool features I see coming out, the more I delay my purchase, the more I keep talking about it... ...the closer my wife gets to killing me. I need to just make a decision and DO IT.

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