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Monitors and Panning

EchoMinor	Date: March 16, 2006 @ 9:32 PM currently i do not own any monitors, and am relying completely on some good recording headphones, but i am hearing from alot of people good with production that panning is helpful when you are adding alot of layers to your music so it doesnt sound like mush... but here is my main problem! i am completely deaf in the right ear due to a blunt trauma to the head causing blood to hermorage in my brain, which destroyed the nerves in my right ear, so panning is impossible with headphones. sooo i guess i really need monitors then... anyway panning helps reduce the mush of layering? sorry for the confusing questions
imemine	Date: March 16, 2006 @ 10:00 PM Panning does help reduce clutter! Every instrument in its place. The “pocket”! EQ can have the same affect by reducing shared bandwidths. Do not mix a bunch of great sounding instruments but rather mix a bunch of instruments that sound great in the mix!—if that makes sense? I’m no expert though.
EchoMinor	Date: March 16, 2006 @ 10:22 PM gotcha, something similar i do is use a different tone for a second guitar part to make it seem to stand out.
imemine	Date: March 16, 2006 @ 11:09 PM
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: March 16, 2006 @ 11:26 PM Know what you mean, I don't have specialist monitors and they can really make a big difference. I mostly use a combination of using my home theatre amplifier/speakers and headphones to get a balance. Then I burn a quick cd-r etc and try it on the car stereo and sometimes make adjustments based on all 3 things. Would still love some nice monitors... Your music sounds well balanced, you would not know you had difficulties panning/mixing. EQing a guitar part differently is a time tested classic trick - many rock bands etc. use different amps to record their rhythm guitars (i.e. left channel might be a marshall, right channel a seymour duncan or fender etc). Listen to the Ramones - on their first 3 or 4 albums the guitar is often just tracked once, split into left/right channels with one channel slightly more overdriven and muddier sounding tone vs a slightly less overdriven and brighter tone and the music does not sound thin (the guitar carries pretty well in spite of only being tracked once) and it helps stereo-ize the guitar (on the first album, the guitar was panned right and the bass left but then again, it was recorded on a 2,000 dollar budget!)
hate9wicket	Date: March 16, 2006 @ 11:55 PM The thing Ime said about shared frequencies...yeah, think about the pieces that are in the same realm, bass and kick drum, high hat and rhythm guitar, lead guit and keys, and pan accordingly. The trouble I've had is how hard I do the panning, I've put guitars at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock and my ears hurt after just a couple minutes, I like the placement so I roll off the high freq. and lower the volume just a tad. I like bass slightly left of center, so if I programmed the drums, I put the kick slightly right of center and so on.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: March 17, 2006 @ 1:11 AM http://www.tweakheadz.com/pan_control.htm this link and the 'go to next class' at the bottom gives a good perspective that is pretty much in line with how I pan and mix - although it's very subjective and there's no need to follow a 'chart', each track might need different treatments, so this is a guide only.
EchoMinor	Date: March 17, 2006 @ 3:58 PM no problems now, all this time i had no clue i could hook a stereo up to a computer to use as the speakers lol. nice 500 dollar panasonic works great as monitors lol
GeneHilbert	Date: March 17, 2006 @ 4:05 PM Sometimes you need to use what you got until you get what you want.....
EchoMinor	Date: March 17, 2006 @ 4:10 PM true..had the stereo for a long while, and knew i wouldnt be able to afford real monitors...visit to radioshack supplied me with the correct cable.
Veracohr	Date: March 19, 2006 @ 3:01 PM If you're completely deaf in one ear, monitors aren't going to help you do better panning in your mix.
EchoMinor	Date: March 19, 2006 @ 6:12 PM not true, i can hear just as good as anyone else without headphones. when it first happened yes it wouldnt have helped much, but your hearing adjusts if it needs to. all i do is turn my head to the right and i can hear just as much as anyone else. like my stereo i can pick out what is on what side, without it sounding like mush. took me a year to adjust but it eventually happened.
EchoMinor	Date: March 19, 2006 @ 6:13 PM hell im lucky i can produce the way i do now, hell its not perfect, it doesnt suck. and at least i can accually walk straight now lol.
jimbobber1985	Date: March 20, 2006 @ 8:45 AM think i just did about this in uni. ur brain can still hear stereo only with one ear due to the delay between sound from the left and the right plus the shadowing effect of the head. its pretty interestin how it works
jimbobber1985	Date: March 20, 2006 @ 8:48 AM hey quietman thanks for the link, looks useful
Louie-D	Date: June 22, 2007 @ 11:53 AM pair
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