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DylanC	Date: November 25, 2001 @ 3:37 PM There is a new hard drive based mp3 player from CLASSIC, similar to the iPOD. It has 10 GB of room and it can also play wma's, which take up half as much room as mp3's. The best part of all is that it is only $180 at Circuit City. Does anyone out there have this perfect machine? I have only seen it at Circuit City.
ElKevbo	Date: November 26, 2001 @ 12:26 PM I picked one up Friday. I've been playing with it a bit, but I haven't done any extensive testing. It was a busy weekend. I haven't quite figured out if the unit uses the IDv1 or IDv2 tags on files, or some weird combo of them with the filename in the display. More testing will clear this up, I'm sure. I've also gotten the OS to crash twice so far. That's bad news, but maybe it was just random chance. Only time will tell if this is a real problem. I do like the ability to record and encode directly using the device. If it could(or will) do higher than 160 kbps, then it would be a real contender to replace my mini disc recorder for live concerts. More info as I continue to play with it. Any plans for a real review here? I'm new here, so do ya'll accept user submissions for reviews? Kevin
ElKevbo	Date: November 28, 2001 @ 10:43 AM This damn thing locks up on me constantly. Hopefully this is just a problem with my particular unit, but I'd be wary of buying one. I'm trying to contact their tech support to see if they can offer any help. If they can't, this piece of shit is going back to the store for a refund. Kevin
michaeltscott	Date: December 6, 2001 @ 6:29 PM e.Digital's MP3 HDD Jukebox design (see http://www.edig.com/products/reference-jukebox.html). e.Digital, a company here in San Diego, announced this design about a year and a half ago, and announced plans to manufacture versions of it with Hango and Hy-Tek late last Fall. Hy-Tek's version, which was to be called "Treo" (see "http://www.treoplayer.com") was cancelled, apparently due to problems around the plastic case that they were using. e.Digital has licensed Musical Electronics, Ltd of Hong Kong to produce the Classic XP3 (see the PR here: http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr120301.html), but are also producing a version of their own called the Treo 10(PR: http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr120401.html, product page: http://www.edigital-store.com/treo10.html). It differs from the Classic XP3 by: having a brushed aluminum rather than plastic case, consequently weighing about 1.4 ounces more; being one third inch less wide and nearly half an inch less thick; not being capable of ripping music--you have to rip on a PC and download to it; finally, being usable as a USB disk-drive--the Classic cannot do this). The Treo 10 is being manufactured in the US by, reportedly, some company also in San Diego (Musical Electronics manufactures the Classic in China, Hy-Tek would have made their version of the Treo in Illinois, and Hango, which was going to call their unit "Cleo", is a Korean manufacturer). Given all this history, it's more fair to say that Apple's iPod bears a resemblance to the Treo, than vice-versa. Also, I anticipate some trademark struggles with Handspring, who are using the name for a converged PDA/cellphone--e.Digital/Hy-Tek was using it far and away first, and got a product to market before Handspring. I'm going to open a thread about the e.Digital Treo here. It's also being discussed by people who have anxiously awaited its release for nearly a year in the "treoplayer" forum at Yahoo's www.egroups.com. -- Mike Scott " id="1547">This is a modified implementation of e.Digital's MP3 HDD Jukebox design (see http://www.edig.com/products/reference-jukebox.html). e.Digital, a company here in San Diego, announced this design about a year and a half ago, and announced plans to manufacture versions of it with Hango and Hy-Tek late last Fall. Hy-Tek's version, which was to be called "Treo" (see "http://www.treoplayer.com") was cancelled, apparently due to problems around the plastic case that they were using. e.Digital has licensed Musical Electronics, Ltd of Hong Kong to produce the Classic XP3 (see the PR here: http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr120301.html), but are also producing a version of their own called the Treo 10(PR: http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr120401.html, product page: http://www.edigital-store.com/treo10.html). It differs from the Classic XP3 by: having a brushed aluminum rather than plastic case, consequently weighing about 1.4 ounces more; being one third inch less wide and nearly half an inch less thick; not being capable of ripping music--you have to rip on a PC and download to it; finally, being usable as a USB disk-drive--the Classic cannot do this). The Treo 10 is being manufactured in the US by, reportedly, some company also in San Diego (Musical Electronics manufactures the Classic in China, Hy-Tek would have made their version of the Treo in Illinois, and Hango, which was going to call their unit "Cleo", is a Korean manufacturer). Given all this history, it's more fair to say that Apple's iPod bears a resemblance to the Treo, than vice-versa. Also, I anticipate some trademark struggles with Handspring, who are using the name for a converged PDA/cellphone--e.Digital/Hy-Tek was using it far and away first, and got a product to market before Handspring. I'm going to open a thread about the e.Digital Treo here. It's also being discussed by people who have anxiously awaited its release for nearly a year in the "treoplayer" forum at Yahoo's www.egroups.com. -- Mike Scott
nytcrawlr	Date: December 18, 2001 @ 1:32 AM Ugh, just bought one, and when I plug it in I can complete one operation, then I get the message EP-1 Activated and thats it, I gotta disconnect the USB, restart Musicmatch, and if the song is bigger than a few megs it locks in the middle of transfer...UGH!!!! Anyone having this prob? I'll exchange it for a new one tomorrow but if it happens again, no more, prolly go with the Nomad.
MrXero	Date: December 18, 2001 @ 1:46 AM no problems from me thus far... And I've even deleted a whole playlist and reloaded as brand new one over it. Nothing bad yet.
nytcrawlr	Date: December 18, 2001 @ 2:41 AM Hmm, interesting, worked on the other XP comp, got the EP1 Activated error a few times, then miraculously it works. Hmmmm.....
jumbo1	Date: January 3, 2002 @ 8:45 AM I just got one and the vocals and treble are terrible. Anyone else have this problem?
TheWitchingHour	Date: January 3, 2002 @ 10:42 PM Lucky Lucky Me..they had two of these at Circuit City Spartanburg SC. Mainly I went because I wanted to do a direct comparison to my archos recorder. Lo and behold they had them listed as a Classic cassette player going for 14.99 each! I bought both, gave one to my brother and I'm testing the other.
muskegon	Date: January 4, 2002 @ 12:31 AM jumbo1 When I first got my XP3 it sounded really terrible too. Turns out the headphones weren't plugged in to the jack all the way.
muskegon	Date: January 4, 2002 @ 12:37 AM ElKevbo On your locking up problem. I had a really long file name on one of my files. This caused locking up. As soon as I changed it the locking up stopped.
marcusgenius	Date: January 5, 2002 @ 4:21 AM wtf this pos locks up on me three times a day and yesterday i had 35 of my cd's ripped onto and i turn it on and everything is gone ahhh
geensbu	Date: January 5, 2002 @ 3:35 PM I am considering purchase the Classic XP3 and have been unable to get answers to the following questions. Can the group please help: * Can I record on-the-fly mp3 from a stereo system, from old records, and then download these mp3 files into my computer? * Can I store files other than mp3s on the Classic and in effect use it as a portable hard drive? * Can I record voice files as on-the-fly mp3s and transfer them to my computer? * Is it reliable? I realize all of this can be done with the archos player\recorder - I bought one but it didn't work from the first day and had to return it and am looking for a replacement machine. Thank you
dastngr99	Date: January 7, 2002 @ 5:47 PM Download Playlist to Portable Player. but there was export playlist i tryied that but to no avail. it really wasnt working, i even brought the damn thing to my friends house and it wouldnt work there, can neone one please help me!!! please.
bsg208	Date: January 7, 2002 @ 10:51 PM When unit locks up "reboot" by using Up Volume,menu,and right advance buttons together.
knightjay	Date: January 8, 2002 @ 12:01 PM I have heard that there is a new firm ware upgrade for the XP3 in the works and it should be rlsed in the next couple of months. One of the things included in the fix is the locking up of the unit.
-Z-	Date: January 8, 2002 @ 2:37 PM Mine's going back to circuit city today, as I have lost all my files on numerous occasions. This is totally unacceptable. Maybe the treo is different? Or the new rio riot? Can anyone with a treo comment on the loss of files or inability to write new files after a transfer error? Zach
ebjcoat	Date: January 14, 2002 @ 8:44 PM I need sompthing reely durable.
av0	Date: February 16, 2004 @ 9:43 PM 8Mb) MP3/WMA files fixed -Fast-forward/Rewind bugs fixed - bug which could crash the player in certain circumstances when using the Artists menu is fixed -Battery gauge calibration adjusted to match maximum battery voltage more closely -Graphic EQ now adjusts band gain interactively plus there is another update that fixes more things but they dont tell you what they fix with that one
Dablobman	Date: February 23, 2004 @ 8:53 PM Ehhhhh, screw this thing. If you want a nice durable MP3/WMA player that doubles as a portable hard drive, get a Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra. The only thing lame about this thing, is its name. You can get the 30 gig version for $260, or the 40 gig version for $300. You won't regret paying this much either. I don't see why 10 gig ipods are priced soooo high, i've had nothing but trouble with them... Besides, this thing looks cool too ... and no worrying about stupid obnoxious OS crashes. hehh, im such a salesman! oh well... check it out!
zenmann	Date: February 28, 2004 @ 2:42 AM I have the 20GB Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra and am extremely happy with it. I have had 0 issues.
TameasDust	Date: February 29, 2004 @ 6:54 AM cool then start a new thread on it ... this started in 2001 for god's sake aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
phallam	Date: April 18, 2004 @ 4:55 PM I have to say the Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra seems to be the best mp3 player out at the moment. Firstly it has amazing sound quality (beats the iPod) and its soo cheap(the 30gb is about £90 cheaper than a 15gb iPod). I will be buying one of these this week
MrXero	Date: May 11, 2004 @ 1:52 AM what the hell this thread is still active after 3 years?
MrXero	Date: May 11, 2004 @ 1:54 AM do any of you members even know who the heck I am? This thread is sooo friggin old!
nTeaff	Date: September 8, 2004 @ 6:04 AM I also have one of the CHD500's.It was working fine until I installed the 2.005 update. I had to rename the file to make the player take it. For the problem: I put the Classic on random. It will play and will often repeat songs. The repeat song reads something like this &^$&###)(# and the album is the same way. Also, if I scroll down the track menu and about halfway....much of the track names are $*%$$## and those tracks will not play. I have deleted everything off the player and reinstalled all the music to no help. I have deleted all the duplicate tracks in there. I have defragmented it several times to no help. I have scandisked it once...and one bad disk appeared, I told the computer to fix it. Nothing has helped yet. I am wondering if I could format the player and if that would help. But, if I did that...would that take everything out including the menu? If it did take the menu stuff out...would I be able to get all that stuff back through the internet? Let me know and please email about this. Thanks Nathan (stuck in Iraq)

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