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MarcSalmon	Date: April 10, 2004 @ 6:27 AM Hi im looking to buy a decent condenser mic that will record the sound of my acoustic nicer than my current dynamic mic (superlux top-25 does. My budget is £100-200. I've been looking at behringers, particualrly this one because its cheap http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/d2/page/shop/flypage/product_id/1788/category_id/91b3be2d9efc08ea760e4c3070ce0a75 Could anyone point me in the right direction? Also, it would be great if i could get a better vocal sound out of it as well, but i dont know if thats possible. Thanks Marc.
MarcSalmon	Date: April 10, 2004 @ 6:30 AM ooh what about this one. http://www.bluearan.co.uk/sales/behringer/frame_Behringer_B2_PRO_Studio_Condenser_Microphone.htm
DevonPowell	Date: April 10, 2004 @ 7:01 PM Do you already have phantom power? If not, that cost may go up considerably... The behringers look good for the cost, tho I honestly don't know much about them (never used them). I use Shure SM-57's or 81's for mic'ing acoustics...the 57 is a good all-around mic (dynamic cardoid) and cheap to boot. The 81's aren't cheap, but are damn good mic's. Otherwise, I really like Blue microphone's. The baby bottle is very nice...
MarcSalmon	Date: April 10, 2004 @ 7:24 PM thanks devon, yeah i have +48v phantom power on my behringer mixer. thanks for the suggestions. what mics did you use for recording the acoustics in '2nd chance' and 'i'll shelter you' ?
DevonPowell	Date: April 10, 2004 @ 8:05 PM I used the baby bottle and 2 sm-57's for ambience and went direct as well (acoustic electric - older System 500 on my A. Yairi). The baby bottle was set up close, in front and somewhat above me, to my left (up the neck). The other 2 were set further away, and more to the other side of the soundhole to get a different sound all-together (one was sort of behind me). My brother (engineer of my stuff) likes to set mics up all over the place and then when he does the original mix, he messes around with what sounds the best. Typically the blue stays (it's got incredible sound) and the others get worked about a bit. I don't know why he used the 57's..I think he likes the sound with the blue. The 81's sound better, IMO...but he has a better ear for that stuff than I do (heh...I'm the OLDER brother, so I'm told I'm deaf and whatnot)
Apertome	Date: April 11, 2004 @ 4:35 AM Blue mics are fantastic, I'm sure, but they are very expensive! However, I have achieved good results using a cheap condenser (about $100 Oktava mic) plus an SM-57. Sure, the SM-57 is supposed to be a vocal mic, but you have to use what you have access to. I also like to record as many ways as possible and mix the parts however is most appropriate. I don't know about Behringer mics, I've never used one, but I haven't used much studio gear. I have heard good things about Rode mics, such as this one: http://www.dv247.com/invt/10229 Which is in your price range. I will say that the Behringer gear I have used (mainly mixers) has been very good, especially considering the price. The Oktava I have is OK, but you can do better in your price range, so I wouldn't recommend it.
MarcSalmon	Date: April 11, 2004 @ 6:39 AM Great! thanks very much !
MarcSalmon	Date: April 11, 2004 @ 1:44 PM so now the decision is RODE or Behringer i definitly can't afford blue
woodhead	Date: April 11, 2004 @ 2:03 PM Hey mark for my first condensor I used the mxl, it has come doen quite a bit in price but for a first condesor and on a tight budget this one worked well for me, I also used it for vocals and other apps also not so great price but an alright mic here is the link http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040411110034068035153151066006/g=rec/search/detail/base_pid/273156/
MarcSalmon	Date: April 11, 2004 @ 2:05 PM thanks woodhead. What about this one, anyone know if this is any good? http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/d2/page/shop/flypage/product_id/1504/category_id/91b3be2d9efc08ea760e4c3070ce0a75 i only ask coz its in my price range and comes with free stand and cable
Mike-Bowers	Date: April 11, 2004 @ 9:34 PM I've always used a rhode condenser in college. I'm not sure how expensive they are where you live, but I know you can get them pretty cheap on http://www.gak.co.uk you get a really crisp, clear sound out of them, and they're awesome for vocals as well. When you combine them with a compressor, you can get a really nice warm sound.
MarcSalmon	Date: April 12, 2004 @ 5:28 AM thanks mike! Damn i still can't decide.
MarcSalmon	Date: April 12, 2004 @ 5:31 AM looks like i should go for rode, everyone seems pretty positive about them.
MarcSalmon	Date: April 12, 2004 @ 5:59 AM decided to buy this: http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/d2/page/shop/flypage/product_id/2998/category_id/ thanks everyone for your help.
Apertome	Date: April 12, 2004 @ 1:42 PM Mmmmmm let me know how you like it. I would love to hear something recorded with that, I have been drooling over the Rodes for some time

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