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Philosophi	Date: May 30, 2002 @ 10:48 PM I wish it would go back to the basics...commercialism has taken over. Big up to all the conscious, underground heads out there. Keep doin ya thing. What do ya'll think?
snypez	Date: May 31, 2002 @ 7:35 PM all british mc's are underground as we aint fightin commercialism, we fightin to be heard
Philosophi	Date: May 31, 2002 @ 7:50 PM i have a new respect for the uk....some of the illest, I'ma have to visit...some day
smelv1n	Date: June 1, 2002 @ 1:05 PM you dont know what you're talking about, there's still alot of good american/canadian dj's out there, don't know as much about hip hop, but turntablism and shit is still going strong. on a sidenote, i've been listening to some of my brothers older music, and i gotta say grand master flash rules, lol, go download grand master flash - newyork newyork it's great, old school beats!
snypez	Date: June 1, 2002 @ 6:38 PM yo philosophi, you r my dawg son, and you know you are welcome to come to my yard and stay if you ever got the paper to fly over. Me and you r tight bro, do or die soldiers ya get me!. who god bless, no man can curse, freedom iz a must peace
smelv1n	Date: June 1, 2002 @ 6:50 PM hehehe, sha.....wha?
Philosophi	Date: June 1, 2002 @ 6:56 PM ha who doesnt know what their talking about. I'm talking about the new bling bling throw riches in faces, screw hoes, theme. It makes the people that dont know much about hip hop get the wrong idea about the culture. It sells...but I believe in karma. Its all comin back at em. Same crap different toilet.
smelv1n	Date: June 1, 2002 @ 8:19 PM it's not hip hop though, it's hip pop. i sure hope nobody thinks that all that shit they play on MTV is hip hop.
Philosophi	Date: June 1, 2002 @ 11:35 PM commercialism is all a part of it....believe it or not
mtbatol	Date: June 3, 2002 @ 1:26 PM Yeah, the one thing missing in hip hop now and days is diversity. I was listenin to a song from a tight underground mc named J-Live and lady in the elevator asked why I was listenin to stuff that was so negative and violent. I mean I didn't know whether to either laugh at her for her ignorance or what since J in a majority of his raps just spit ill lyrics with little or no curses and doesn't perpetuate the steriotypes of the hip-hop culture through his songs. It just shows that people who never understood hip-hop as a whole and just look at P. Shitty, Big Tymers, Nelly, and Master P for the definition of hip-hop... they interpret the meaning of hip hop through Hip-Pop. I don't blame the artists as much as I blame the corperates and media outlets such as MTV, and even my once beloved BET for the confusion since it is very rarely that I see lets say The Roots or Common get video airplay (same with radio airplay for that matter). Ehhh, if the commercialism of hip-hop were to include more of the diverse talent in the waiting to shine then alot of misconceptions will start to die but until then I'll still here people think of hip-hop as a whole as one big joke to be loathed upon based on the gold tooth uggy mofos on Big Tymers . Now where is my Vanilla Ice cd when I need it?
Tertium-Quid	Date: June 3, 2002 @ 2:04 PM And before I ramble on for too long… Yes, the current state of "bling-bling" Hip-Pop is a bore." id="10458">Unfortunately, this scenario applies to most genres of music once they've been absorbed by the mainstream or commercial machine. If something sells, you're damn straight that there will be many who jump on that bandwagon all in the name of the mighty green dollar. By no means do I consider myself a Hip-Hop afficianado but I've been interested in rap & electro-boogie since the early days of Grandmaster Flash & Afrika Bambaataa. Along comes somene like Hammer and it all goes down the toilet, only to be brought back to life by someone like say, Public Enemy. My point is that it's cyclical. Personally, I still have faith in the "underground" as being the forum for artists to explore new things and break new grounds. It is a shame when those grounds are tainted by mainstream exposure but I guess I'd have to blame things like MTV and their "you heard it here first" mentality. And before I ramble on for too long… Yes, the current state of "bling-bling" Hip-Pop is a bore.
Philosophi	Date: June 3, 2002 @ 2:10 PM I agree exactly what I'm on
CPSick	Date: June 4, 2002 @ 1:33 PM worse.Ive heard 3 of the wackest that Ive heard in my life this year.I dont see it getting better anytime soon. Peace CP Sick " id="10528">Its only getting worse.Ive heard 3 of the wackest that Ive heard in my life this year.I dont see it getting better anytime soon. Peace CP Sick
mtbatol	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 1:14 PM ehhh, talib and my fav group the roots are droppin later this year (hopefully sometime in summer) so perhaps things will get better
creativetim	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 3:42 PM I'm posting on this thread so that I can see my new icon.
pog	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 4:00 PM rofl
mceyekon	Date: June 25, 2002 @ 3:08 AM peace" id="11699">yea that shit they play on MTV is what i like to call "Pop-Rap" or in Smelvins words "hip pop"...jsut a bunch of nonsense with no meaning....Philosophi, you basically broke it down....the American public is a bunch of lost souls...and this horrible "Pop" thing is just simply a small example... peace
smelv1n	Date: June 25, 2002 @ 3:40 PM i want a popsicle
princess-angry	Date: June 25, 2002 @ 3:41 PM ne too!!
mtbatol	Date: June 25, 2002 @ 6:09 PM Do anyone know where I can find music from Vanilla Ice and Marky Mark n da funky bunch??? Now that is dope music, yeaaaaaah boooooooooy!!!
SINcere911	Date: June 29, 2002 @ 12:21 AM ....i don't agree.....

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