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TegidC	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 6:10 PM Greenday used to be good as a punk band. Now they are over produced and have become pop. Agree or Disagree? Discuss. Personally I owe it to them, they were one of the first bands I listened to as a teen, but they were the pre-"Warning" days, even then, Nimrod wasn't really punk. Back to the days of Kerplunk I say, take away their money, put them in a cheap recording studio with some bad mikes and we shall see some good punk again.
TonyV	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 6:40 PM I think it is tragic how when there music was actually decent, nobody gave them props. Now they make garbage and hit it big. Go figure.....corporate America sucks!
MinisterofSc...	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 6:47 PM Amen, anyone who disagrees with what's been said here obviously has some sort of mineral definciencies. Okay, sorry, that's mean. I agree, the new stuff is pretty damn lame and I just plain do NOT care for it. Nimrod was good even if it's not punk.
rockgoth619	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 6:51 PM i hate you all welll ok not rely, but still
hate9wicket	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 7:53 PM I argue Green Day were never a Punk band, just a poorly recorded pop trio in the beginning. That and poor management that told them, 'Well, look how many records you sold when we only spent $x,xxx. Think how many records we'd sell if we spend $xxx,xxx?' Now they can't go out on the road without a spare guitarist, and probably an off stage keyboardist and a sequencer. I don't know, maybe this is what they wanted from the beginning. Stardom and fame, big money being thrown at them to change everything that worked in the past, but doesn't sell now. I do like how they've gotten more political, but even then, it's watered down. Green Day is now the supersafe can't piss off the boss version of The Clash.
roast	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 8:12 PM I always thought Green Day were a Pop-Punk band, not truly punk. It seems hey are going down the commercialisation route of U2. Still, theyre songs are easy and great fun to play.
Alecs	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 8:13 PM I never really liked Green Day. They had their good songs. They went from ok to shitty in my eye.
Izekial	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 8:16 PM Green Day was one of those bands I listened to as a teenage because I was just getting into rock music and they were everywhere. I liked every band I'd heard back then at first, at least once. Then, as with various other first impressions of rock, I found I didn't like them. They were too bratty sounding, even for a 16 year old. This kind of music ages poorly, but as Trent Rezner said in one of his song: "This isn't meant to last... this is for right now." But Green Day is still going, and I'm asking them... no, begging them to stop. They're true rebels at heart, I'm sure, but even if they're sincere, the generic elements in their current track list is startlingly horrible. Someone stop NOFX, too. Let Bad Religion handle what the general public views "punk rock" to be. At least they have something interesting to say. And will someone kill everyone who liked Guns & Roses. I hate all of you.
tossom	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 9:21 PM I've never been a big fan, though I almost liked brain stew. As Alecs has already said, "they went ok to shitty in my eye".
leedsquietman	Date: February 2, 2006 @ 12:01 AM Never been a fan, but agree older material was better - they have never brought anything original to the table . Even worse, they spawned a generation of fifth rate teenie pop punk like Good Charlotte. Still, good luck to them, it's a tough world out there and they have many fans to flame me with and more money than I could ever hope to earn, so obviously someone like 'em !
	Date: February 2, 2006 @ 1:52 AM Everything up through and including "Warning" was excellent, WTF happened?
psypig	Date: February 2, 2006 @ 8:02 AM this is turning into another one of those misguided 'ooh they're successful and that makes them crap' things. greenday's last album has some amazing songs on it. and to address the original question: yes they used to be a good punk band. now they're a good pop/punk band. and if i ever meet anyone who uses the term 'over-produced' as a criticism i will stab them in the eye.
TegidC	Date: February 2, 2006 @ 6:27 PM "Yes they used to be a good punk band. now they're a good pop/punk band." Agreed. But I dislike "that kind" (by which I actually mean "over produced", sorry but it's the only descrpition I can think of which is adaquate, that or Manufactured? Formulaic?) pop, which is, what it is.
shadowself	Date: February 2, 2006 @ 6:50 PM That Billy guy should never, ever sing slow tunes.
pangtera	Date: February 2, 2006 @ 7:38 PM The only beef I have with Green Day is that Billy sounds like he has a stuffy nose whenever he sings. Someone get this man some Sudafed. Even though their new material is emo, it sounds okay to me.
imemine	Date: February 2, 2006 @ 11:53 PM HOLY CRAP! I can’t believe that I have missed this thread!
zedsalt	Date: February 3, 2006 @ 10:57 AM I'm not a fan, particularly, but I have to be impressed by anybody who writes a song so poignant that people quote and/or perform it at funerals, even though the title is "Good Riddance". Ya gotta admit- that's pretty impressive.
GeneHilbert	Date: February 3, 2006 @ 11:09 AM Never care for them..... just not my cup of tea....
EvilPicnic	Date: February 3, 2006 @ 11:18 AM I wasn't into Greenday for very long - and when I was I always thought that The Offspring did it better.
victorsskull	Date: February 3, 2006 @ 7:44 PM
Adsero	Date: February 3, 2006 @ 8:48 PM I...don't care.
rockgoth619	Date: February 4, 2006 @ 10:52 AM hey! billie joe is a wonderful signer and u guyz r just jelous and i do agree with that they used to be punk and now theyre pop/punk, but theyre still better then u
Alecs	Date: February 5, 2006 @ 11:08 AM "and u guyz r just jelous and i do agree with that they used to be punk and now theyre pop/punk, but theyre still better then u" Lets see him play some of Stratwizard's songs then
BlackMage	Date: February 5, 2006 @ 12:37 PM "but theyre still better then u" I'm glad that some people still can be better than other people musically.
Alecs	Date: February 6, 2006 @ 11:09 AM You can't win 'em all, I guess.
psypig	Date: February 6, 2006 @ 12:05 PM a hell i was hoping to provoke at least some kind of flame. ghey.
BlueM2	Date: February 6, 2006 @ 12:18 PM they're alright
tooles	Date: February 6, 2006 @ 1:09 PM Yeah, Good Riddance is a good song. The rest of their stuff is...disappointing. People say they 'matured' with this latest album, but they still sound like a 14 year old punk band to me.
downtowndonnie	Date: February 7, 2006 @ 11:20 PM finally, I get tired of hearing people say how awesome green day is. Though I do think they had some good songs back in the day. But now all their three chord wonders just aren't that wonderous...
imemine	Date: February 7, 2006 @ 11:54 PM HOLY CRAP! I can’t believe that I have missed this thread!