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Why Does Everyone Have A MySpace?

TnyjMuzic	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 12:02 AM Why does anyone use myspace. i checked it out and it looks so basic. Is there something more to my space that i don't know?
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 3:59 AM There nothing more to it, no. Most people are just sheep, they feel that if they don't do what everyone else is doing they'll either be missing out or something or they'll be looked upon as strange and awkward. So many people join MySpace for the same reasons that so many people have been to see the 'Da Vinci Code' or watch 'Big Brother'. They just don't have minds of their own.
TnyjMuzic	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 6:18 AM Thanx Simon. That clears it up for me.
MindSculpture	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 6:40 AM I have a myspace page. You can call me a sheep if you like - I have absolutely no interest in watching Da Vinci Code or BB. I also own an ipod - because it works bloody good. (or maybe I just got one because everyone else has one )
Distilled1	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 7:57 AM I have one another spot for our music to be promoted!
PosBee	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 8:49 AM Myspace's jest another opportunity to break through. And as it's quite wellknown, lotta people think it'll be good for em to sign to MySpace. Personally, I don't got one. I think you'd better jest have one and work on it seriously than several and let em neglected.
Svensta	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 9:17 AM HAH! I don't have a MySpace and haven't read DaVinci! Not even Harry Potter! I must be a unique rebel! Actually, its just another internet phenomenon. And it is a good way to suddenly be exposed on a medium that seemingly everyone has an interest in this week. Also remember, big-time musicians sell music to these sheep. So be aware that although you might not like their behavior, they are the ones that turn indie groups into the Beatles.
kingo	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 9:59 AM Everyone breathes, also, because they are sheep. And eats!!!! People just eat because they are sheep. Shit! People shit because they are sheep.
Rodrica	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 10:03 AM I'm not on that site. Last time I went there I didn't like the terms regarding selling my details on to third parties, I didn't like the fact that it caused my computer security to go nuts and then froze it completely, and I didn't like the way it tried to take over my computer when I tried to read someone's blog But each to their own - If other people find that it works for them then that's great.
zedsalt	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 10:50 AM Yes, well, Kingo, I tried to quit shitting once, but I gained weight.
GeneHilbert	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 11:15 AM
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 12:21 PM Okay look, I obviously I know that people join MySpace for all sorts of reasons. I'm aware that it's a genuinely fun place for some people, and being on the friends list of one of your favourite bands or singers must be pretty cool as well. And yes, of course, you get more listens on there than you probably would on here, but I still hate the place. I looked around it and even joined for a day once, but the music seems to be very much secondary to social networking, and most of the people I found on there are the very people I like to spend my life not being around. If you have a page on there then that's up to you, good luck to you. I hope you get lots and lots of page views and help to make Rupert Murdoch (its owner) a lot more money. Don’t say anything too controversial, though, or upload video that is not affiliated with Fox, otherwise you’ll probably get censored (check out http://samkoma.net/videoblog/?p=22 and this article: http://www.blogherald.com/2005/12/22/myspace-users-angry-over-news-corp-censorship-of-youtube/ which made the New York Times) And anyway look at the books, music, films, websites etc etc that gain the most popularity. Is it usually because they're the best available? It is bollocks. For example, I had to read 'The Lovely Bones' at University. That book has sold over 5 million copies so far in the United States alone - and it's awful, completely and utterly not-just-my-opinion-it-really-just-fucking-is awful; a poorly written, confused and convoluted storyline with a piss-poor cop-out ending. Now why the hell was that book so popular? People don't want to feel that they're missing out on what everyone else is doing. They want to feel part of the same things and share in the hype-of-the-day conversations and, as far as I can see, really don't have any desire to go and find better alternative forms of entertainment – or, better yet, create their own entertainment.
K3VIN	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 12:26 PM Do I spot jealousy and envy in this thread, its a god damn website.
DeadraveN	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 12:46 PM just more exposure. why not? who cares if most the people are there for "social networking"? I hate the place too, just because it's so damn awkward and poorly set up, and the pages crash browsers... but the point is, it's another free way to expose a few more people to your music. why the hell not?
kingo	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 12:53 PM Hehehe... Kev. Hehe. Simon: yeah, I almost agree with K14-12vin on this. You know a LOT more than I do about the place, obviously. I don't really spend time there. We have a page there, there's a dmusic thing there, there are other friends of mine there, but I don't go there except when I get an email asking me to be a friend, then I go there and usually accept it or sometimes don't or sometimes do or sometimes don't. But at any rate it doesn't occupy any of my thought-space. What my point is is that just because everyone does something DOES NOT MEAN that it sucks and that they're sheep for doing it. I think one of the weirdest phenomena that goes on here and everywhere else is the inordinant amount of time people spend bitching about shit that "everyone does" because they're sheep. I think it makes absolutely no sense to think that hard about something as innocuous as a web site (my space) or a tv show (american idol), and to spend more time talking about how stupid the thing is, and how the people who participate in it are obviously sheep, than the people who participate actually spend participating. I'm a sheep because: I watch, and enjoy, American Idol. I watch, and enjoy, Survivor. I watch, and enjoy, Lost. I have a MySpace page. I buy some CDs that are on major labels. I breath, I eat, I shit, I piss. I work for a living. I have a house. I have a car. I will die someday. And also I would've thought you of all people would know that saying "not-just-my-opinion-it-really-just-fucking-is awful" is a non-sequitur. "awful" IS an opinion, and as much as it'd be easier if the world of aesthetics were that black and white, you and I both know it's NOT black and white. At all.
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 12:53 PM I agree, people can do what they want, I never said they couldn't. And I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are entitled to yours.
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 12:55 PM That was a reply to DeadRaven, btw.
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 1:14 PM Okay, Kingo: MySpace doesn't really occupy much of MyThoughSpace (see what I did there??) either. I just have an opinion on it that I shared because TnyjMuzic started this thread. The only times I've been there were during the day or two that I joined and then left, you've probably been on there more than I have. And of course something doesn't have to suck just because everyone else is doing it: Nirvana, Star Wars, 'The Catcher in the Rye', uh...some other stuff have all been immensely popular while also being completely brilliant. However I would still count these as exceptions to the rule. All those things you've listed, if you like them then that's fine, good for you. You can like what the hell you want...and you don't even need to get unnecessarily defensive when I criticise them. But as far as I’m concerned MySpace really isn't innocuous at all. Can a website with over 30 million members really be that innocuous? This is the internet, it’s supposed to be a bastion of creatively and freedom of speech, yet its most popular website is a corporate owned hang out being crippled by censorship. Plus I’ve already heard of people being expelled from their schools and fired from their jobs because of stuff they’ve put up on their MySpace page. What the hell is innocuous about that? And as far as I'm concerned, some things really are just shit. Basic Instinct? The Spice Girls? Barbara Cartland novels? Adam Sandler movies? Sorry, sometimes shit is just shit no matter what your aesthetic values are.
kingo	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 1:39 PM So do you use google? Or do you use something else to do your searches? " id="222963">Adam Sandler movies!!! There's another good example of stuff that I like that is, apparently, objectively shit. I am a potato, though, and shit helps me grow. Yes, I was being defensive. I don't mind being defensive, it's what I do when I get attacked. And lest that sound too serious -- nothing much is serious about any of this, to me. But I am being called a sheep, here, and in the numerous threads/news posts about American Idol. "its most popular website is a corporate owned hang out being crippled by censorship." So do you use google? Or do you use something else to do your searches?
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 1:48 PM I try not to use Google as I'm aware of the stuff they do ("Don't be evil" my arse). I do lapse sometimes, though. I'm no different to anyone else in that I use unethical products and services, but I still feel disappointed in myself when I do so, and just because I'm not a saintly consumer (as if such thing were possible) it doesn't mean that I can't criticise the things I don't like. And if you or anyone want to get defensive about that then that's up to you.
kingo	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 1:55 PM See, here's the thing: it's absolutely FINE with me that you criticize myspace. Say you think it sucks, it's evil, it's overwhelming, it's controlled by aliens, it's unfathomably horrible looking, its interface is shitty. Say all of that. I don't disagree. But when you criticize a thing, and then from the ground of that criticism you draw unflattering generalizations about the people who use it, I just think you're falling into a logical fallacy. As trite and cliche as it sounds to say this, things like Google and MySpace are uncharted territory. The fact that the creators/owners of those sites have access to the minds of so many people is a strange, scary, important thing. And if you just assume that it works because "people are sheep" you're probably missing something that could be important.
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 2:23 PM You're right, Kingo, it's never a good idea to make sweeping generalizations about anyone or anything. On my second post on this thread, however, I did make it clear that I know people join MySpace for a whole host of reasons, and I'm sure a lot of them a mighty fine people. However, do you remember this thread: http://www.dmusic.com/forum/general/22176 There's a hell of a lot of people like that (another generalization!) on there, too, and those are the types that make me want to move to another planet. And if you honestly think that I'm drawing any comparisons between the likes of her and you then, frankly, you must be on fucking crack.
kingo	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 2:56 PM Okay. Just so we both agree that I'm on crack.
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 2:58 PM I disagree.
kingo	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 3:07 PM
SimonWaldram	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 3:19 PM There's one last thing I'd like to say: You know where I've worked since November (and also through university)? Asda. You know who owns Asda? Wal-Mart. Fucking Wal-Mart! How much of a hypocrite am I? Here I am going on about ethical consumption and whatnot and I've been working for the most unethical company on the planet (...well, almost). I'm leaving in a few weeks, though. I don't have a new job yet but I can no longer bear working for a company that is against everything I believe in and every value I hold dear. I’m just saying this to make it clear that I don’t consider myself to be better than anyone else, and that the shit I consume or have affiliated myself with is really just a different kind of shit to yours. I don’t hate people; I just get disappointed in them. I think the human race has vast potential that we’ve barely tapped into yet, but I really don’t think we’ve going to evolve by spending out time watching ‘American Idol’, joining MySpace or going to see the Da Vinci Code. The main reason I'm leaving Asda - even though it will leave me without a job, is that I feel more and more each day that I need to stand up for the things I believe in - in every aspect of my life. And that includes standing by opinions no matter how unpopular they sometimes may be. Anyway, go check out my MySpace page, it's much better than my DM page
aflunky	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 3:23 PM GODDAMN! all this for a website? Fuck it, just let people do their thing if that what they like to do. In the end it will either be a big successful empire like yahoo, or fizzle out and die. Either way, it shouldn't be any sweat off your back OR mine.
leedsquietman	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 4:22 PM Some people have myspace accounts for the same reasons they have dmusic or soundclick or purevolume accounts, people want to put themnselves 'out there'. I can't oomplain about that as I have a soundclick account, even though it lies dormant and I dislike the culture of thier site, I simply cannot be arsed to delete it. I agree that Myspace is pretty lame,it limits you to 3 music tracks (which are downsampled to preserve space, crap audio alert!), they have a eula which is a gazillion pages long with a trillion clauses regarding ads/3rd party affiliations which you better hope you clicked NO to if you don't want a hundred extra spam messages a week and using it and unless you can program html or download a 'myspace' editor don't bother at all unless you like staring at a white wall. So it has crap terms and conditions, crap sound quality and is as user friendly as putting together a bunch of bedroom furniture from IKEA without the instructions - plus all the potential 'stalkers' who want to be your friend with their collection of hello kitty, cabbage patch dolls and the like. Plus all the banner ads to bejesus. In spite of all of this, people are flocking to them as if they were giving away a thousand bucks to sign up. Some people just want to put themselves or their 'talent' out there, others are meglomaniacs who believe we actually want to see pictures of a hundred hello kitty dolls in their bedroom or see their high school grad pics and actually give a crap. So myspacers, which are you?
Israfel	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 5:06 PM I'm deeply hurt that you don't care about my hello kitty dolls. I suppose my Pez dispenser collection doesn't do anything for you either. sheesh...
leedsquietman	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 5:26 PM lmao
ChillinBuzz	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 5:31 PM I got MySpace because Jennae was telling me about all these fucked up Goth weirdos on there, so I wanted to get in on it. woohoo I can't believe its been 2 years now since i joined there And do you know whats the best bit about it for me? the fact i aint addicted to it like i am here... its certainly not basic, the code mods are crazy - however, its gotta be the biggest asylum in existence... ive been stalked there more than here although i have to admit i've been hit on more on MySpace hey, i'm a man, don't get jealous on me now but it's like any site, it has its' uses - it just doesn't have the CLASS that DMusic has as for my "talent" well... the music speaks for itself as does a lot of music on this site... the fact i pull more women than most of you will see in your lifetime is a mere bonus
ChillinBuzz	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 5:37 PM did i just post that Agent, all this dirty talk is your doing
AgentMGD	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 6:05 PM Question for the author of this post - don't you consider it a double-standard that you're complaining about why people have myspace accounts when you in fact you just admitted of having one yourself? Quit yer bitchin ...i guess that makes you a sheep like the rest of us too You feel that myspace is your little private website and no one else should be a member. Tough tittie! It's a mini world-wide high school playground and if you don't like the fact teenage girls are stalking or hitting on you constantly - then complain to the site admins or delete your account and start your own website with the only member as you. Mr. Buzz - it's not my fault yer a frisky Brit
leedsquietman	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 6:51 PM This seems a bit extreme Agent, and like Chillin'Buzz, Simon is also a Brit as am I (originally, now a Canadian resident), so that has nothing to do with anything ! We're all entitled to a whinge every once in a while and I certainly agree with some of Simons's points, myspace is really a bunch of crap in terms of setting an account up, t/c and the fact that (unlike dmusic) it downsamples your music. But if people want to join up, then I say let 'em and why bother wasting any energy on it. The other thing Simon (and others) has commented on previously is the fact that people come on promotions to sell beats, or hear my tune and then post a myspace link - jeez people, have myspace if you want, but if you're posting on a dmusic forum to hear your music or beats you should at least have the courteousy to have some music uploaded at dmusic !!
jacobOS	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 7:23 PM You know I disagree with Simon and Kingo. I think Myspace is a great website but the only real way that you could get any appreciation out of it is if you have friends who really dont have a life, who check their emails 24/7, who respond to their myspace invites, who get themselves a myspace account, who like talking and saying anything and everything about them on a website. I think myspace is for losers because you talk to total and complete strangers sometimes and they may understand you and they may not. I mean, when you want to ask your friend for advice as to what you should do with a play or a how to organize something, call them, dont write a blog on it, or they wont talk to you about anything again. It's free speech sure, but it's a push. Ask them and your friends for permission first. Myspace makes no sense to me.
ChillinBuzz	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 7:24 PM i actually deleted two of my songs at MySpace and set up a series of links bringing people to my page here (as well as the main page and our beloved boss, who is so much fitter than Tom anyway ) in fact, i've pretty much abandoned the music page there. - DMusic - - MySpace -
JimColyer	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 8:50 PM I was wondering about the allure of MySpace also. I am there. JIM COLYER http://www.myspace.com/jimcolyer
jacobOS	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 10:03 PM Chillinbuzz, you're right. I dont get all the buzz with myspace accounts because you can do the same with other sites and I think that Dmusic is as good. With mysapce you have all these problems, issues, and technical difficulties and you can never use myspace correctly, or log in, in school with like without using some key stroke or there's something for that too from what I heard and also like I think that Dmusic is better than myspace because you can actually talk to other people. Most stuff on myspace is a bunch of chainletters. They arent your friends.
K3VIN	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 10:09 PM id rather be a sheep then a complainer sheep are soft and secksi... complainers arent... dotn complain also if i pay money for riaa cds... i happen to like music... and dotn care who makes it as lnog as its good.. and people will not be killed!!
jacobOS	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 10:13 PM i guess being a doer is better than being a talker. They are great, and complainers arent. I just dont like myspace though. I think it's the devil.
jacobOS	Date: May 28, 2006 @ 10:14 PM good points k3vin, very good points.
MindSculpture	Date: May 30, 2006 @ 4:19 PM I would just like to point out that from this moment onward I am no longer a sheep. I am a kangaroo
leflaw	Date: May 30, 2006 @ 6:14 PM Myspace= 666 The beast End of civilization
jimbobber1985	Date: May 30, 2006 @ 7:35 PM @ kev, couldn't agree more (about the cd bit)
Woof	Date: May 30, 2006 @ 10:36 PM MySpace is hip. MySpace is fun. Tom's my friend.
leedsquietman	Date: May 30, 2006 @ 10:44 PM Setting up an account with a eula written than Tolstoy's War and Peace, needing to program html or downloading editors (which are often adware/spyware vehicles), getting bombarded with spam/pop up ads, having your beautiful highly polished musical productions reduced to low bitrate hash, being stalked by fans of Clay Aiken and Pokemon card collectors, waiting hours for pages to load....yup, how much fun can ya handle
leedsquietman	Date: May 30, 2006 @ 10:45 PM oops, should read 'eula longer than War and Peace'