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EvilPicnic	Date: June 8, 2006 @ 7:43 AM The first finals match of the biggest sports tournament in the world kicks off tomorrow! And the first :England: match on Saturday! Any predictions? Favourites? Will Rooney play? :England: :England: :England: As you can see I'm a little excited! (and slightly biased)
rhthesinner	Date: June 8, 2006 @ 8:01 AM Wayne Rooney and Steven Gerrard joined up with their England team-mates ahead of their World Cup opener against Paraguay. Rooney returned to Germany after undergoing a scan in Manchester on his metatarsal injury. Manchester United confirmed this morning that Rooney will not be fit for the group stage of the competition but could play in the knock-out rounds. United issued a statement and, although Rooney's return is good news for England, the noises from Old Trafford contained a coded warning. Sven-Goran Eriksson and England's medical team are now responsible for the well-being of United's prized asset and they have been told to be "very careful''. The statement said: "Manchester United can confirm that Wayne Rooney has rejoined the England squad in Germany following his scan in Manchester. He is now in the care of the England medical team. "The expert independent medical view is that Wayne has a good chance of being fit after the group stage. At that point, the expert independent medical view is that his participation in the tournament will require very careful assessment in order to address his suitability, as he will not have had the opportunity to play in less demanding games.''
rhthesinner	Date: June 8, 2006 @ 8:01 AM
JamesThomson	Date: June 8, 2006 @ 8:10 AM +=
rhthesinner	Date: June 8, 2006 @ 8:16 AM I don't follow football much Started taking an interest in the World Cup last time I noticed in a paper yesterday that are playing in Group F this year. I didn't even realise they had a team! Have they always and I've just not noticed ? Or is this their first time? TTFN.
Svensta	Date: June 8, 2006 @ 8:19 AM You know it, don't you? Six times, baby.
downtowndonnie	Date: June 8, 2006 @ 10:09 AM I don't care about soccer, but how 'bout them oilers?
hate9wicket	Date: June 8, 2006 @ 10:50 AM is behind the 8 ball this year, grouped with Italy, Czech Republic and Ghana http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/group/index.html Casual fan question: I can't remember, is it top 2 from each group moves on? Do they play teams from the cooresponding group,ie A vs. B, C vs. D, E vs. F, G vs. H? I feel good about my Yanks, last time they beat Mexico, Portugal, it was pretty much Hand of God II vs. Germany in the semis, I'm just glad I don't have to get up at 3 am to watch matches... I'll catch most at work (Thank God for a tv in the office) and DVR most, if not all the others.
AgentMGD	Date: June 9, 2006 @ 7:46 PM Go
EvilPicnic	Date: June 10, 2006 @ 6:08 AM Casual fan question: I can't remember, is it top 2 from each group moves on? Do they play teams from the cooresponding group,ie A vs. B, C vs. D, E vs. F, G vs. H? Yes, and yes. e.g. The winner of Group A plays 2nd place in Group B, and the Winner of Group B plays the 2nd place of Group A. This prevents the big teams from meeting too early on.
K3VIN	Date: June 10, 2006 @ 10:19 AM soccer not my fac sport but id go with brazil like i always do
zedsalt	Date: June 10, 2006 @ 11:06 AM I'd like to start a security agency and bring it to the heights of success, so that I may sponsor a major sporting event and call it "The Protective Cup".
JamesThomson	Date: June 10, 2006 @ 11:20 AM 1-0 to althought it was a really wank game and aa lucky goal
EvilPicnic	Date: June 10, 2006 @ 11:31 AM First half was great, and we played like a team with a purpose. But the second half was awful. Taking off Owen was a mistake. The referee was odd.
leedsquietman	Date: June 10, 2006 @ 11:43 AM Saw it live in Canada, wasn't exactly a classic but hey, given our record at starting major tourneys slowly/craply we'll take the 3 points. We can't expect to roll teams over 6-0 like we did to Jamaica in an exhibition game! BTW - England were poor 2nd half (except defensively), but the ref blew fouls incessantly which killed the rhythm of the match (mostly for no good reason) and give Paraguay some credit, they battled well. I think now we have 3 points in the bag, we'll have some confidence to express ourselves better in the next game vs. Trinidad.
ChillinBuzz	Date: June 10, 2006 @ 11:54 AM not so much a lucky goal, Owen did his part, pushing the defense across the goal trying to keep tabs on him the 2nd half was pathetic, it was like they switched off for most of it Valdez for Paraguay is a great player, if he'd had a couple of better supporting players we'd be staring at a point at most from that game!
hate9wicket	Date: June 10, 2006 @ 10:57 PM Sweden played like they didn't care, didn't take Trinidad seriously, certainly didn't take any serious shots, and were careless on possessions. On the other hand, Trinidad played great defense, didn't let shitty officiating get themselves down or the occasional elbow. In a tie, I say it was Sweden's game to lose, and Paraguay breathes a little easier.
WildasRapids	Date: June 11, 2006 @ 12:37 AM @ Zedsalt
EvilPicnic	Date: June 11, 2006 @ 8:59 AM Hislop played so well. The TnT game was more fun to watch than the England one...
AgentMGD	Date: June 12, 2006 @ 3:15 PM i knew i should placed a bet on the losing to the Czech Republic today
leedsquietman	Date: June 12, 2006 @ 6:37 PM The Czech Republic are pretty hot right now but usually don't deliver in the latter stages of a tournament and Koller is really important to them and could be out for a while... Anyway, Italy were beaten in their opening game in 1982 and went on to WIN the World Cup, so USA fans shouldn't be too despondent yet.
hate9wicket	Date: June 12, 2006 @ 7:03 PM Uhhhh.. Ghana could have really done the U.S. a huge favor if there were a tie vs. Italy. Now we need to win out, but also win by large margins. Italy has to lose out the rest of the way, stranger things have happened.
leedsquietman	Date: June 12, 2006 @ 7:20 PM USA need to beat Ghana for sure and get something from the Italy game and hope that either Italy or Ghana or pref. both will do you a favour in their matches vs the Czechs. Anything is still possible... If Koller is out of the Czech team for a while, he is the focal point of their attack and although they have other talented players, it will be difficult for them to adjust.
JamesThomson	Date: June 13, 2006 @ 10:52 AM 3-1
Intergalacti...	Date: June 13, 2006 @ 10:59 AM Austrailia played awesome but they've got Brazil next. I think the same will happen to Brazil as it did to england cos all the pressure is on the bigger teams look at holland their game was VERY similar to englands first. USA also looked unstable but I think they will be better following their first match. The problem is with them, I know the commentators said it a lot but thats basically how Americans play sport is that they structure it. Everything they do is set up and predictable in football when 'soccer' is designed to be a freeflowing game possibly more than any other sport. They'll have to realise this quickly if they stand any chance
Intergalacti...	Date: June 14, 2006 @ 12:18 PM Brazil weren't brilliant last night were they
celtaidd	Date: June 14, 2006 @ 1:33 PM Disappointing, or were we expecting World beating class every game? At least they didnt find it too hot
Cryxan	Date: June 14, 2006 @ 4:32 PM Croatia did an excellent job against Brazil.
leedsquietman	Date: June 14, 2006 @ 8:04 PM It's true that usually the most successful soccer teams have an element of flair but fitness and hard work can and does often make a difference too. Ths USA are one of the fittest teams around and can play better than their opener - they'll have to, if they want to progress... Come on England!
AgentMGD	Date: June 14, 2006 @ 11:44 PM v I predict the will lose ...again go
hate9wicket	Date: June 14, 2006 @ 11:56 PM I'm gonna pick to win, just a hunch, but throw in the death of GC Sanchez' father, you've got a team extremely motivated. One point 'bout true they are fit, but think about it: The best athletes on every other team are like Michael Jordans; the best athletes on the U.S. squad are just the best soccer players from the U.S. Think if a guy like Dwayne Wade or Terrell Owens played soccer instead of football, how much better the Americans would be?
Svensta	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 8:06 AM The biggest scandal about is that apparently they aren't as thin as they were 4 years ago. But then its been a 4 year party for some of them. Oh and that some of their girlfriends refuse to pose naked for the calendar. You see... they have problems like these.. this is why we should relocate to Brazil. All of us.
JamesThomson	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 2:18 PM england 2-0 trinidad. best game i've seen so far (i've only seen three) and john terry should be lavished with gold for being our saviour.
AgentMGD	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 2:21 PM woohoo!! what a game!!
EvilPicnic	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 2:55 PM I thought it was shite. Again. Apart from the last 10 minutes. I was so bored I was just sitting with my hot tea in my lap, staring into space and contemplating how awful the whole thing was, when we scored. And I jumped up and cheered, and shouted, and then rolled around in agony as boiling water soaked my crotch. I missed the second goal 'cause I was dousing my private parts in cold water. It is always thus with England... Well... at least we got the 3 points!
EvilPicnic	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 2:58 PM Correction: Actually, 'shite' is pretty harsh. It was an improvement on the last game, and TnT's tactics made them difficult to attack. But it was still pretty poor. Hopefully we'll pick up later in the tourny.
JamesThomson	Date: June 15, 2006 @ 5:11 PM i thought it was a good game all the way. (Terry is teh sex)
hate9wicket	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 12:10 AM Poor Paraguay, played so well for 88 minutes, but Sweden's winner was a textbook header.
MonkeyGirl	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 1:18 AM at evil picnic... i was doing exactly the same thing, holding onto my T & T v England 1-3 defeat slip in the office sweepstake (£5 to enter?!?! wtf?!?!) confident that it would easy be 3-0 to England.. .and what... after being nobbled by the Tube (incident at Marble Arch, please stay on the Tube and sweat, sweat, sweat), i got to my hotel just after the second half had started. And for what?! Little action... out came the laptop; hell I even phoned room service i was that bored. Still. I didn't get boiling water on my crotch so silver linings!!! Three points. Only, with evidence of this performance it doesn't bode well for the knockout stages. T&T are the smallest nation to take part in the world cup apparently... 1.3million people only. For some reason this endears me to them.
MonkeyGirl	Date: June 16, 2006 @ 1:19 AM shoulda used the preview.. endears them to me even... i suspect they've never even heard of me.
EvilPicnic	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 6:31 AM USA played a good game yesterday, albeit a dirty one.
AgentMGD	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 4:10 PM i was hoping the to lose to Italy
hate9wicket	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 5:07 PM USA did play a little rough, but these refs are awful quick with the cards, I think in the entire tournament, the average is something like 5 or 6 yellows a match. 3 RED cards in ONE Match, give me a freaking break! The Head Ref missed the 2002 cup due to "unspecified irregularities" in the '98 Cup...I wonder how many of France's games he worked? Ok, over GO ITALY!!!
AgentMGD	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 11:39 PM go
AgentMGD	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 12:23 PM here's a good match v
leedsquietman	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 5:35 PM Well done England for getting the result we needed to top the group, a 2-2 tie did it and was fair overall - pity about the chronic defending at set pieces but it was a great game and Joe Cole got the best goal of the match. We have avoided facing Germany on their home patch, so that's gotta be a positive !!
JamesThomson	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 5:47 PM it was a good game but Sweden really should not have scored at the end. that was just clumsy defending
ChillinBuzz	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 6:37 PM Joe Cole was absolutely wicked, a couple of rare errors but a fabulous goal the scoreline really didn't do the game justice, there should've been a lot more goals from both sides. Yep, shoddy defending but glad that happened NOW and not in the knockout stages at least they can try and do something about it!
Jesuszilla	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 6:58 PM England would probably be better off going 1-0 down coz then they won't be so defensive. Thought Hargreaves had a good game, nice to see him actually get a full game in his proper position!
AgentMGD	Date: June 23, 2006 @ 9:29 AM woohoo - the is OUT (as i predicted) of the World Cup
MindSculpture	Date: June 23, 2006 @ 1:13 PM Argentina to win the World cup
EvilPicnic	Date: June 23, 2006 @ 4:14 PM ^^I tink so, too.
ChillinBuzz	Date: June 23, 2006 @ 4:28 PM tough one i think, Germany are doing good as are Argentina. can't disregard the holders, Brazil... then again Sweden might change all that this weekend
HenriRoger	Date: June 23, 2006 @ 5:24 PM France is back in the game
hate9wicket	Date: June 23, 2006 @ 7:50 PM Go Spain!! Anyone want a slightly used, overbearing, overconfident, and fingerpointing U.S National Team Coach? I can get you a good deal, I'll even throw in a bridge located in one of the burroughs of New York City.
imemine	Date: June 23, 2006 @ 7:59 PM When do they get to tackle someone?
MindSculpture	Date: June 24, 2006 @ 6:33 PM What a game between Agentina and Mexico! Mexico were really unlucky not to have an extra man on the field for the whole of the second half, but what a goal to win it eh? I stand by my prediction of Argentina
JamesThomson	Date: June 25, 2006 @ 3:47 AM Oh shit the Ger/Swe game put things into perspective. We drew with a team who Germany beat 2-nil and had about 100 chances to score another. Credit to Sweden's keep though he was a tank.
AgentMGD	Date: June 25, 2006 @ 10:55 AM Anyone want a slightly used, overbearing, overconfident, and fingerpointing U.S National Team Coach? I can get you a good deal, I'll even throw in a bridge located in one of the burroughs of New York City.
DigWeed	Date: June 25, 2006 @ 10:57 AM England wont go far... if they pass Ecuador, they wont pass Argentina... On the other side, VIVA ESPANIA!!!! i just hope they reach the final..
leedsquietman	Date: June 25, 2006 @ 1:59 PM Congratulations for getting to the quarter-finals - yet again it was a below par performance (dire 1sty half, average second half) but thanks to one sublime finish from Beckham we go through. Rooney also started to look like his old self 2nd half, we need Lampard to getg going now ! Commiserations Ecuador, you really fought hard and if you'd got the first goal, I think we'd be packing up right now instead of you, you did your country proud. P.S. 1966 - England did not play well until the quarter-finals, so maybeb history will repeat itself
sinai	Date: June 25, 2006 @ 2:01 PM isn't predicting the U.S. getting eliminated in the world cup kind of like guarenteeing Aruba won't win a gold medal in skiing next Olympics?
leedsquietman	Date: June 25, 2006 @ 2:34 PM Soccer will never take off on TV in the states as it is a game with two 45 minutes halves, no time-outs and no 7th inning stretch. It's not the commercial cash cow that other sports are This is why basketball, american football/grid iron, baseball and hockey are widely covered and soccer is only covered on spanish speaking cable networks most of the time. Soccer means that commercials cannot be shown every minute, although I've seen them try to do it during a game where they shrink the screen in two with the commmercial on top with the sound and the muted soccer game on the bottom - they tried to do this during a break in play but when the ball didn't go out for a while, I've seen them cut to a commercial during a penalty kick or during a goal... Soccer is the biggest participation sport in the USA, it's a pity that the enthusiasm shown by the millions of kids loses it's impact when they get to 16 and not many progress from there. The MLS has been a good league with a growing fanbase but it's quality does not match up to the top European leagues yet and many USA players play in the MLS now, and the European based ones often don't play for top clubs or even the top tier league. Anyway, USA with it's population and amount of young players in soccer leagues should be capable of doing more, it's important for the world game to have a successful USA team.
AgentMGD	Date: June 25, 2006 @ 6:03 PM July 1st v ortugal: - should be a good match
JamesThomson	Date: June 26, 2006 @ 2:52 PM Beckham is really underrated now that he's older. everyone wants "the old Beckham" back. I think he's one of the best on the team: he holds the midfield well and hopefully tht free kick has earnt him some respect.
AgentMGD	Date: July 2, 2006 @ 10:32 PM OMG France beat Brazil
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 2, 2006 @ 11:57 PM Wayne Rooney... can imagine the first Man Utd training session when he comes face to face with Christian Ronaldo... wonder if he will stamp on his balls too?
hate9wicket	Date: July 9, 2006 @ 10:28 PM Rooney got bested today Jesus Fucking Christ, France and Italy played a hell of a match but no one is gonna remember it because of Zidane. What a way to end a career. Oh that and all the Refs got Medals!?!
EvilPicnic	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 6:52 AM I thought the ref in the finals did a good job. Some of the others though... I thought France were the better team overall, but things don't always work that way.
SimonWaldram	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 7:04 AM Last nights incident replayed in full: Zidane = Materazzi: The world: The ref: The whole of France 25 minutes later:
HenriRoger	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 7:30 AM so truth haha
JamesThomson	Date: July 10, 2006 @ 8:34 AM that's pretty much right^^^ . Italy were:
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 11, 2006 @ 2:10 AM ah well, Zidane didn't care, it was his last international game.
SimonWaldram	Date: July 11, 2006 @ 5:22 AM Apparently it happened because Materazzi insulted Zidane's mother (who is quite ill at the moment). An Italian insulting someone's mother, eh? Jeez, talk about living up to stereotypes