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I-doser.com... a digital drug experience..

Alstroph	Date: August 21, 2007 @ 3:43 PM http://www.i-doser.com Anyone ever use these? You lay down in the dark and listen to the audio "dose" through headphones. It sends a different frequency of sound to both ears and your brain has to balance it out... which causes some sort of altered state of consciousness. It's literally a digital drug. The crazy thing is that these supposedly work well. It's one of the most shared things in a big private music community I'm part of. There's one does that is called "Hand of God" that costs $199. I'm curious to know if anyone has any experience with these.
Distilled1	Date: August 21, 2007 @ 4:39 PM no but hmmmmm very interesting but wouldn't this be the same as some old fashioned meditation Strange Days ...
Alwex	Date: August 21, 2007 @ 4:47 PM Me and tim use it abit now and then, wouldnt really say Altered state of consciousness, but it really helps you relax, and it helps you find inspiration. The deepest ive went in a "drug" experience on it, is minor CEV's and "weird" thoughts, abit like cannabis. But mostly i just feel relaxed and satisfied Worth a test, but i wouldnt buy any doses, id download em from somewhere instead. And yea its like meditation.
Octadelica	Date: August 21, 2007 @ 5:05 PM The stories that come with it are a bit exagurated but I-doser certainly hasan effect on your mind when you lay down in the dark with your eyes closed and do nothing but listen to it. Cocain really made me active after feeling numb and bleh, so did opium which made me feel happier. I tried salvia several times in the dark and it works quite abit. It doesn't really give hallicunations like the real drug, but I did kind of fell in a light sleep and had very vivid dreams. Like Alex said, it works and it's nice to try if you don't want to/can't try the real drug or you're just curious about it. But in my oppinion it's not worth the money they ask for it, so try getting em for free.
Alstroph	Date: August 21, 2007 @ 6:24 PM Lots of major torrent sites have i-doser material. A torrent I have has all of them in FLAC format... it's about 10 GB in size.
hantu	Date: August 21, 2007 @ 10:32 PM Very interesting. "Hand of God Premium (Unexplainable) 30 Minutes A dose that has been a lifetime achievement for I-Doser.com, and only held internal to I-Doser Labs for a very good reason: It isn?t meant for public consumption because it is considered just too powerful. It?s like the Holy One reaches from the sky, as you lay with closed eyes, and shows you the world. Only 5 people have ever witnessed the power of this dose, and it was put away in the I-Doser vault for fear of release. Fluttering eyelids, great and almost supernatural clairvoyance, rings of light and great insight, but all this comes with a price. It could also force great fear, an unknowing realization of self, and a breakdown of all senses. Weeping, fear, anger: you need to realize with such insight could come with bad consequences." I'll let you know how it goes when i try it. It's about 55MB. I'm having a hard time believing this will have such a strong effect as stated above, but we will see. Unless of course what i'm leeching is a fake, that would be funny.
hantu	Date: August 21, 2007 @ 11:03 PM Oooo i got the application from rapidshare. It's about 11MB with all the doses. The Doses are small files 126KB each which you load into the program. I've only got my Samsung MP3's earphones, hopefully that will do the job.
leplume	Date: August 21, 2007 @ 11:06 PM Did you ever see that movies "Scanners" where the guys head blows up? I fully expect that to happen to Hantu anytime now.
ChillinBuzz	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 12:14 AM grabs mop and bucket. Sounds interesting... Although I'd rather take magic mushrooms...
hantu	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 1:45 AM My Documents Alternate method: After you use up a dose, open the dose with WOrdpad or Notepad. Now change a few characters on the first line. This seems to work with some, but not all, doses . You will now have fully working duplicate doses! Proceed to frying your brain with virtual drugs!!!!"[/i] And no i haven't tried it yet, but i will, later on today. The sessions do take a while i.e 45mins
hantu	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 1:47 AM Oops that quote got messed up oh well. I know i was saying 45mins, but there is this 5min anti-depressant called "QuickHappy"
Opossum	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 2:41 AM Want to hear something really strange? It's a bit off-topic, but I'll mention it anyway. The other day, I had a headache, and so, I made a drink by getting a cup, putting in the two Aspro Clears, and then pouring the drink into my cup. After a few minuts, I felt the usual softer effects of the tablets and my headache was completely gone within about 15 minutes. A little later that night, guess what? My wife found the actual cup I started with (with the two partly dissolved headache tablets in it on the higher counter by the fridge - there were actually about three cups there at the time - but no drink in the cup), as I somehow poured the drink in the "wrong" cup. This just shows what the mind can do when it believes something. Remember, I LITERALLY felt the effects of medicine that I didn't even take!
hantu	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 7:07 AM Yeh. I was thinking that too. But hey, if i can make myself think i'm getting a high from some "Bffffvvvvzzzzz" sounds, i don't mind if it's all in my head. Although i think that is the whole idea in this case. You should get your wife to trick you into thinking you've taken tablets, but wuthout conciously telling her thae plan, because then you'll know about it.
Alstroph	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 10:34 AM Hantu - I've heard you need high quality headphones to get full effects. I've also read that encoding them with a format that compresses them will make you lose the effects. Who knows. My "Hand of God" is 199MB in FLAC format. I haven't tried it yet... I'll probably try other ones first until I get it working.
zedsalt	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 11:06 AM The first thing I thought of when I read the subject line was those goggle/kaleidoscope/blowpipe thingies that they used to advertise as providers of druglike highs without drugs. Kurt Cobain was said to have used one really often just before...well...you know. Have fun, Alstroph, but please, always remember: chronic stomachaches are still just stomachaches, and if you don't seem to be enjoying music as much as you used to, just wait; it'll come back to you eventually.
hantu	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 7:09 PM Alstroph, i know, and you are probably right. Considering "Hand Of God" is suppose to be the strongest or at least one of the strongest, i figured even a mild effect would be achievable with an MP3 and earphones. Although i guess this depends on the person. "Hand Of God" MP3 Version. I started it before bed and was awake for at least 1 session, that i know. A few hours later i woke up because the earphones came out, and i just felt the need to listen to it, it was comforting. Although there were poeple making nosie outside and it blocked out that noise, more or less. Couldn't put the volume too high, that might distort it. Anyway, what were the effects? Nothing really. Apart from feeling relaxed and having a strange dream about some family members i haven't seen in a while, it was a bit of a wierd dream, one of my cousins had a cyborg ear and starting singing. I doubt that had anything to do with "Hand Of God". I do like the soft deep fuzzy buzzy sound though, like i said before it's comforting. "We find that users of I-Doser fall into one of 3 categories: Susceptible to Binaural Beats, Originally Unsusceptible to Binuaral Beats, and Immune to Binaural Beats. " - I thought this was quite convenient when reading the FAQ. I now need to get hold of some quality headphones and use the program rather than an MP3, as that obviously didn't do much if anything at all. I anticipate review, Al.
hantu	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 7:11 PM "one of my cousins had a cyborg ear and starting singing" - I just remembered, before my session and sleep i was watching Full Metal Alchemist lol.
hantu	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 8:42 PM Bestsellers 1. Peyote 2. Marijuana 3. Ecstasy 4. Trip 5. Lucid Dream 6. Orgasm 7. Cocaine 8. LSD
Alstroph	Date: August 22, 2007 @ 8:58 PM I might try one tonight. If I do I'll rate my experience here.
evansorchid	Date: August 23, 2007 @ 7:36 AM Thanks for the heads-up Alstroph. I have given this product a try. I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet. I downloaded the two free patches that apparantly can play only once. I listened to the patch titled 'Content'. I guess as a musician who is used to being stimulated aurally, (no puns allowed, Hantu), I kinda have mixed reviews. Basically, the audio consists of a soft white noise like you might hear coming from a TV set that is not set on an actual station, the television 'snow' sound. And there is also a warbling 'G' tone. (I picked up my guitar to see what note it was, hehe). And it plays without any noticable variation for 30 minutes. It is kinda soothing though. The experience kinda feels like something out of Videodrome. I'll probably try the second free patch tonight. It's titled 'Alcohol'. That should be fun.
hantu	Date: August 23, 2007 @ 10:38 AM I'd advise against that link. "Basically, the audio consists of a soft white noise like you might hear coming from a TV set that is not set on an actual station, the television 'snow' sound. And there is also a warbling 'G' tone. " That's exactly what i said - "Bffffvvvvzzzzz"
Alstroph	Date: August 23, 2007 @ 1:09 PM Sorry evansorchid... I had to remove that link. We can't post links to copy written material here without the owners permission... we'd have the feds on us!
NickSawyer	Date: August 23, 2007 @ 1:11 PM The "Trip" One sounds interesting... I may try it
PrincessTast...	Date: August 23, 2007 @ 7:31 PM David Lynch's got nothing on this! And awaaaaaaaaay we GOOOOOOO!!!! Lime and limpid green a second scene the fight between the blue you once knew... Floating down the sound resounds around the icy waters underground Remember what the doorm ouse said: "Feed your head! Feed your head!"
zedsalt	Date: August 24, 2007 @ 11:00 AM Are you sure about the legal issue, Alstroph? I ask, because I was reading a Forbes magazine (in a doctor's office. Yeah, I'm not usually a Forbes kinda guy) about a dude who saw something in a magazine that he thought would benefit everybody in his office, so he copied, pasted, and sent a copy to each of his coworkers. He was fined a HALF A FREAKIN' MILLION, and the judge in that case said that if he had posted just the link, he'd be in the clear.
K3VIN	Date: August 25, 2007 @ 12:13 AM On 22nd Aug 2009, ChillinBuzz said: grabs mop and bucket. Sounds interesting... Although I'd rather take magic mushrooms... agreed
Alstroph	Date: August 25, 2007 @ 12:45 PM Yeah... but this was a link to download something that you have to buy. It would be similar to posting a link to the simpsons movie. Better safe than sorry... right?
hantu	Date: August 25, 2007 @ 1:15 PM I thought zed's post was more about the story. Anyway, back to the doses...! Al?
Alstroph	Date: August 25, 2007 @ 2:00 PM I have downloaded 3 of them... just waiting to get home so I can use a high quality pair of headphones. I'm in Mass right now... going home tomorrow.
NickSawyer	Date: August 25, 2007 @ 4:51 PM Here is something very useful for dial-up users (or otherwise) whom cannot download the big files, but want them on wav format. First, just download the I-doser program which will have all the dose files of the current version. It should be less than 30mb. Then follow this tutorial carefully: http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54643 I haven't tried this tutorial yet, so don't count on it working yet...
NickSawyer	Date: August 25, 2007 @ 4:55 PM Update: I just did the conversion process, and it indeed works. I now have a .wav lossless version of 45 minute Marijuana and it only took a minute
Alstroph	Date: August 26, 2007 @ 1:24 AM Converting it doesn't work... if it started in MP3 and it's converted then it is not lossless..
hantu	Date: August 26, 2007 @ 2:06 AM Al, he converted it from .drg to .wav which does mean lossless. The .drg files are very small -128KB- as they contain only the info needed for the I-Doser software to render the dose. It's a good tutorial Nick posted i will probably use it and it's not a matter of simply recording the output. It seems like a good way of converting and it's .wav which if anything, will be better quality than .wav. I'd advise you to grab the 11MB I-Doser software + all Doses and use the conversion tutorial rather than downloading 10Gigs of flac
hantu	Date: August 26, 2007 @ 2:07 AM ... .wav which if anything, will be better quality than .FLAC : shootself :
Alstroph	Date: August 26, 2007 @ 11:07 AM Wow, I see. That's very nice Thanks
NickSawyer	Date: August 26, 2007 @ 1:31 PM The only problem that I see with it is, if one is put on a CD, then it may lose some quality there. But still that would be a really slight loss, and apparently so slight that the human ear can't hear the difference. The only way to find out, is to try it. I'll be trying one soon
zedsalt	Date: August 27, 2007 @ 10:35 AM From what I've heard/read, sound quality makes a great deal of difference when it comes to the therapeutic value of sound, which is...kinda sorta...what we're talking about here...in a way...I guess. The consensus among the therapist community seems to be that sound loses pretty much all of it's therapeutic value when converted from analog to digital, so I think I'd be hesitant to subject something like this to further loss, even though we are talking about much less of a difference... I don't know.
hantu	Date: September 17, 2007 @ 4:52 PM well...?
evansorchid	Date: September 17, 2007 @ 8:20 PM Do you think it's possible to sue these folks? I think I'm starting to have some rather anti-social thoughts.
zedsalt	Date: September 18, 2007 @ 10:37 AM I could never understand eye dosers. I mean, my eyes water uncontrollably when I just watch someone else put in Visine. The idea of sticking a hit of windowpane on there just...oops, sorry. Wrong hallucinogen.
hantu	Date: February 4, 2008 @ 5:29 PM They do help me sleep, but that's about it.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: February 4, 2008 @ 6:46 PM FLAC is LOSSLESS compression, it sounds the same as .wav It only compresses unused sound spectrum, which is why if you try FLACCing a wave of a mix with huge dynamic range, it barely saves any space at all. I have FLAC versions of my Umbriel Rising album, the simpler, less dynamic tracks with some pauses etc save about 15-23% of the filesize of a .wav, but the very complex tracks with huge dynamic range only save 6-10% of the filesize of the .wav As opposed to an 128 Kbps mp3 which is about 85% less filesize than a .wav
cantstoprunning	Date: February 28, 2008 @ 6:00 PM this stuff sounds like more trouble than it's worth. exercise gives a bit of a cool feeling if you do it hard enough, though--and it's completely free!
NickSawyer	Date: February 29, 2008 @ 1:22 AM

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