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joycedavis	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 6:03 AM in DeucesSlap Dmusic radio ad on youtube, the message on the creen, about 1/3 the way thru reads, "...no more ...itunes or anymore of those gay things..." i feel very disappointed in whomever it was that made this ad. i feel very bad that this ad was made for Dmusic, who i know has never showed me an anti-gay or homophobic attitude - from the admin down to any artist i've been so lucky to type paths with. to the writers' and reapers of the ad, if you are as ignorant as you seem to be, you should be schooled. epresenting a group of people, Dmusic radio, as a whole, does not seem right as i know there are plenty of people on Dmusic radio, dj's and artists alike, who are not homophobic or anti-gay. i know that the ammendment says freedom of speech, and i would defend it greatly (maybe not with my life, yet i would stilll speak my mind...snicker) so i am not saying you shouldn't speak yours. but you might want to try to do your homework and represent a "community" in a more thoughtful way (i.e. Dmusic radio). there. i've never been a forum typer, but i was viewing ebarbarella's new video (loved it) and saw the words "Dmusic radio ad" on the youtube list so of course i had to view it - i love dmusic!!!!!!!!! i'm just very disappointed - not in Dmusic as a whole, or even Dmusic radio shows - frankly, i am disappointed in distilled and shadowmom as they are listed on the ad - a clever one - but one line short of funny. repectfully submitted, peace---jd
Israfel	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 6:07 AM Joyce, distilled and shadowmom didn't have anything to do with that ad. It was made my someone independently and those names were added by the person who made it.
joycedavis	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 6:19 AM i instantly detract my naming distilled and shadowmom, who i couldn't believe would have approved that in the first place - really. i should have done my homework first. i apologize to both of you, my friends, as reacted emotionally rather than logically. these are serious things for me and i am a devout dmer, so i jumped. i still say - to those who made this ad, i stand by what i said - except to say that - i didn't get the joke. i'm sorry for leaping to conclusions - that were a huge leap anyway - shadowmom and distilled. peace - ? - jd
evansorchid	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 7:11 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4XwRFNR6wI This looks like the video you've mentioned. It is unfortunate that DeucesSlap AKA Pullmytrigger has chosen that particular vernacular in this DM promotional video. I am certain that this is the work of someone who is completely independent from the DM admins, Shadowmom, distilled1 or anyone else that may a functionary of DM. I really don't think that DeucesSlap was trying to offend anyone. It was just a sophomoric way of presenting his ideas.....I don't think it was his intent to get a reaction like this. But, I'll bet he gets a few more views on this video.....it's sitting at 120 right now.....
joycedavis	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 7:32 AM thanks for the scoop evansorchid. i know pullmytrigger. our banterings have never been negative. again - i was low on the totem pole on this evidently already discussed youtube video. i will cover me with honey and jump on an ant hill. peace---humbled one.
kingo	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 7:44 AM "The programme complaints committee noted: â€œThe word â€˜gayâ€™, in addition to being used to mean â€˜homosexualâ€™ or â€˜carefreeâ€™, was often now used to mean â€˜lameâ€™ or â€˜rubbishâ€™. This is a widespread current usage of the word amongst young people.â€ - http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/article671972.ece "Among younger generations, the word 'gay' sometimes has a non-sexual pejorative meaning, equivalent to 'rubbish' or 'stupid'.[1] Some view this as homophobic, though others cite it as an example of the evolution of living language, pointing out that some who use it do not intend it to have any relation to the meaning of the word as homosexual." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay I suspect, personally, that the person writing that ad didn't mean to imply that iTunes is homosexual, and that that is wrong, but was instead using an alternate meaning of the word.
Cryxan	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 8:36 AM But the alternate meaning is derived from homophobia. I agree with Joyce. We do need advertising, but that line made me cringe a little. Where PR is concerned, it's bad taste.
GTOriginal	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 8:56 AM When the Flintstones are having a "gay old time" are they being homophobic, or lame? How about when we "don our gay apparel" every Christmas? Or when we overexert ourselves and get relief through the use of Ben GayÂ® ??? I could continue but I think the point has been made.
FraDonaghy	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 9:05 AM GT, I think those examples were before the word "gay" was adopted to mean homosexual. (although I don't know what Ben Gay is) While I would agree that Levi probably intended no offense by using this term, it does have homophobic origins. Even if it is modern slang, it does imply that anything labelled "gay" is somehow inferior. Hardly a sentiment DMusic should be seen to be endorsing.
Cryxan	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 9:14 AM Those examples are also not negative, and use an actual definition (now outdated) of the word.
GTOriginal	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 10:53 AM My point exactly. Words are only offensive when those who interpret them choose to be offended. I am a shining example of this here on DMusic. The American Heritage dicitonary still includes "Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry." in it's definition. Although some may choose to be offended by Levi's choice of words, the fact remains that he is advertising the site for free at a time when the population is down to about 6 and most of the features do not work. He should be commended.
GTOriginal	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 10:55 AM PS - Fra "Ben Gay" is a brand name for a wintergreen cream used in the treatment of sore muscles.
evansorchid	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 11:15 AM Yours comes in wintergreen, Gary. I need to look for that.
Cryxan	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 11:49 AM When it comes to public relations, one needs to take into consideration all definitions, whether they are official or not. And not just definitions, but connotations, allusions, etc.
GTOriginal	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 12:04 PM Agreed. DMusic needs to fire Levi from his PR position immediately or at least send him out for sensitivity training... Spike, there's something other than wintergreen Ben Ga... uh... Branded Muscle cream? Wait, can I say cream? Holy crapola this is just starting to sink in. My very name contains the dreaded G-word! It's only one letter away! OMG I have to change it. But first I must kill my mother for giving it to me. Wait, I can still say "mother" right???
evansorchid	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 12:37 PM Your right Gay. You might need to change your name. Gay *ucker might not work once you hit the big time. The dreaded 'F' word is one letter way as well. ...but I still think you can say 'mother' and not get into any trouble.
perkie1973	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 12:41 PM ^^
GTOriginal	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 1:08 PM Wow I never though of that! I swear this is the very first time that has ever been brought to my attention. OK, the plan goes as follows. First I change the "F" to an "S". Then I resubscribe... Still gotta dream up a cool first name though...
kingo	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 2:51 PM On 30th Aug 2009, Cryxan said: But the alternate meaning is derived from homophobia. I agree with Joyce. We do need advertising, but that line made me cringe a little. Where PR is concerned, it's bad taste. Are you SURE it's derived from homophobia? Because in my experience the derogatory usage wouldn't indicate that.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 3:23 PM It should have been apparent to the person making the movie that the word would cause some controversy and the powers that be which authorized it should have considered that too. It's a word which is used as a derogatory term far too often, I mean, kids as young as 5 are using it as a put down word 'you're g', 'that's g' without even knowing what it means. Using it is plain bad taste. And as for Itunes being 'g'. Sometimes we get too militant on this site. First of all, Itunes is merely a media playback DEVICE. I don't see people saying 'Winamp is g' or 'Foobar2000 is g**' etc. Yeah, let's go the whole hog and just label any computer application that way DOH! I think Itunes MUSIC STORE is the intended target of the vitriol. I mean really, you think everyone who is a member of this site has also never bought music from an online store such as Itunes Music Store, Napster, Rhapsody, Puretracks, or whatever. FAIL. I would also go as far as to say that while 90% of us don't support the RIAA's business practices, that probably 99% of us have bought albums from major label artists in the last few years, who crony up with the RIAA. To think that we are only ever going to buy independent artists, (many of whom are barely supported on this site anyway in terms of real purchases) is misguided and naive. This site is affiliated with boycott-Riaa but how many of us actually practice a total blanket ban. Because I'm pretty sure most DMers don't and even some of the Boycott-RIAA people have enthused about recent albums by major label artists on this forum, which indicates they ain't boycotting at all, unless of course, they are listening to unauthorized copies or illegal downloads... And I always thought their emphasis was 'Stick it to the man by playing and downloading willing independent musicians music' and not 'distribute illegal downloads and fight them afterwards in court' The whole emphasis of the video should just be positive about DMusic's qualities and supporting independent musicians, it does it no favours to use inappropriate words and take a militant stance. The video can surely be rejigged a little to focus on our positives, rather than taking some cheap and badly aimed shots at perceived negative influences ?
GTOriginal	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 7:08 PM Go right ahead & try to censor the kid on YouTube. Lots of luck. If you care about the site you will applaud his efforts and move on. If not you will snipe away over a word and maybe bring us from 6 to 5. Or 4... I'm beginning to understand where everyone went now. For the record, I will not allow anyone to tell me where my music will come from or go to. There is not an artist on this site who wouldn't jump at a record deal if offered one. But what that has to do with this thread is beyond my simple comprehension. Anyway, happy posting & back to the music for me.
Cryxan	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 7:49 PM Gary, I don't think you'll ever have a job in advertising.
FraDonaghy	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 12:45 AM Gary, ever hear the expression "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"? I have no doubt Levi had no intention other than to promote DMusic, and for that he should be commended. He is a good kid and his heart was in the right place. The point however is that to an outsider looking in, DMusic may appear both homophobic, and as Martin pointed out, overly militant in the stance against i-tunes. It's kind of like the presidential election campaigns you guys are having at the minute. No-one's going to like the guy who points out the opposition's flaws over and over. Far better to sing your own praises and let people judge you on those merits instead.
pullmytrigger	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 1:46 AM Hello Forum... I am the author of the video. I am sorry for any offense that may have been made. I would first add that I am in no way what you guys are calling Anti-Gay, nor homophobic. anyone here that knows me at all here can vouch there. Joyce, i applaud you for your comments, that is the beauty of this site, as well as Youtube where it was posted, however i would never intend to bring down dmusic. When i said "gay" i was just being a derogatory 18 year old. I am truly sorry you couldn't find humor in it. that is all that was intended. if you all feel i should delete my video i will. however just think about this, all of you, What have you done for Dmusic? maybe some of you have promoted, if you have then you know why i did it. im not a professional advertiser... i just was bored and wanted to promote my favorite site, sorry. it wasn't meant to be put on TV or anything. IT WAS YOUTUBE. so please take my thoughts in consideration. and maybe next time somebody has a problem with a video, contact the author before you completely make them sound like an ignorant fool. i hold no hard feelings, however it does bother me that i offended people and i want to make it right. so Dmusic, Tell me what you want me to do. Thanks. *Levi
pullmytrigger	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 1:48 AM And for all of you that has promoted. Thanks and good job.
moam	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 1:57 AM On 31st Aug 2009, FraDonaghy said: Gary, ever hear the expression "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"? I have no doubt Levi had no intention other than to promote DMusic, and for that he should be commended. He is a good kid and his heart was in the right place. The point however is that to an outsider looking in, DMusic may appear both homophobic, and as Martin pointed out, overly militant in the stance against i-tunes. It's kind of like the presidential election campaigns you guys are having at the minute. No-one's going to like the guy who points out the opposition's flaws over and over. Far better to sing your own praises and let people judge you on those merits instead. I just can't help but laugh at everything you say now Fra It's like, you're talking...but Kramer is saying all the words Like...Kramer talking all serious, sounding rather intelligent Just sounds hilarious
GTOriginal	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 2:11 AM Cryxan, thank you! Advertising, promotion, or any other such kissass field would certainly shave a bunch of years from the life of a person like myself... Fradonaghy, it is nice to read something sensible in this thread, so thank you as well. "Levi's heart is in the right place and he should be commended". Absolutely. If DM appears homophobic or militant based on something posted by a user on a different website, so be it. Put it on the top of the T.S. list where it belongs. If Levi is a representative of the site, management should take whatever action they deem neccesary, behind the scenes. This thread, however is more of a public flogging - DM's way of saying thanks to a decent guy for trying to bring traffic here. Again, check out the current population for the results. Use of the word "gay" has gotten to the point where some of us feel the need to blank out the letters, as if we were saying FCK or CNT. When exactly did this word become an obscenity? Talk about homophobic! Or perhaps Happyophobic(?) Another thing, Levi was talking about DM RADIO, which doesn't even exist on DM because the site is broken, so it's on shoutcast instead! Am I the only one here who feels we should fix this site before colonizing & administering verbiage on other websites?
Fraser	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 3:02 AM I use the word gay to describe things that negatively effect me. Of course, it's a bad choice of diction, but it lies somewhere after 'crappy' and somewhere before 'shitty,' on the SOW (Scale of Offensive Words). Someone saying, "Jesus Christ..." In response to something bad is just as bad as someone saying, "That's gay." So I guess I'm being kind of hypocritical...
Tattoomom	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 3:10 AM Wow.....
zedsalt	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 4:08 AM I'd agree that the use of "gay" as an insult was insensitive, and no worse nor better than insensitive. I'm really enjoying all these expressions of the opinion that the "ITunes Music Store" DESERVES synonymy with "lame", "rubbish", "offensive", "inferior", "derogatory", "crappy", and "shitty". Part of the fun is that I agree- what did our friends in the Gay community ever do to deserve being associated with the Itunes Music Store?!? That's delightful. And true.
zedsalt	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 4:13 AM One of my favorite bits about the word "gay" being a synonym for "homosexual" comes from a stand-up comedy routine (can't remember whose offhand). "You can tell a lot about a group of people by how they chose to refer to themselves. Female homosexuals call themselves 'Sapphic' or 'Lesbian', references to a classic poet and the island she lived on. Male homosexuals refer to themselves with a name that means 'FESSSSSTIVE'!"
GTOriginal	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 4:20 AM Know what always had me baffled? When I hear them grouped together as "Gay And Lesbian" - as a Limo Driver working my way through computer school in New York, I got stuck behind many a "Gay And Lesbian" parade and had LOTS of time to think about this... Females can be either Lesbian or Gay, but males can only be Gay. The heterosexual community works like that too, with the ladies grabbing all the glory they can and the men resigning themselves to it Must be ingrained in human nature somehow.
ChillinBuzz	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 4:37 AM This is one of those threads where I have nothing constructive to say. So nothing new.
GeneHilbert	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 5:05 AM I'm a jovial guy............ That would make me gay. Doesn't that just excite all of you?
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 7:03 AM Good intentions are very nice. But if those good intentions lead to negativity and damage then how is it helping Dmusic? Itunes is referred to as g, hence my other comments. I help by being a subscriber and by promoting this site on other sites. Nothing personal against the author of the video, and yes, perhaps a Dnote would have been more appropriate communication. I think that youthful exuberance just took over and I would be a hypocrite if I said that I haven't watched a show like South Park and laughed at Cartman or whatever going 'that's g'. I think moving on from this, is are you willing to fix it? Think about what makes Dmusic great - some of the stuff such as the animated radio is really cool. I would be highlighting things like DIVERSITY OF MUSIC, HUGE PLAYLIST, EASY TO SET UP AND ACCESS. You've got the dedicated DJ part down well, as well as the accessibility.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 7:22 AM BTW - Fra, Gary. You are good people, thoughtful and considerate in your actions. Levi, I am sorry if what I wrote seemed like an attack. As someone who works in education, I see bullying and attacking going on and here I joined in and that was overkill. When you post at 3 a.m. hungry and sleep deprived, it does kill any kind of thought process/internal filters. So I'm sorry Levi. It's not really a major deal at all, my post seems like a rant and ordinarily I would have Dnoted you. I think you made a mistake (heck, I make dozens on a daily basis), and that needed to be pointed out, but I know you were trying to help the site. I don't think you needed my bipolar attack. I am normally a quiet and diplomatic person, but can be quite a beast when I'm tired and hungry I guess
pullmytrigger	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 8:31 AM Thanks Everyone, i deffianatly appriciate all of your comments. im sorry for the derogatory use of that word, however it is youtube. it says Dmusic, half the people there are silly teens anyways. lets just get over it. the video is posted, has been, and will stay unless Dmusic as a whole thinks it should be removed. i am currently in production of another, i have better equiptment as well as a new outlook on the word i will use. Dmusic is a home to me as well as all of you and i would never want to misguide future subscribers or even guests from joining or visiting. i hope you all would consider my intentions and not what some of you dug up out of what was said. you all know now that i did not mean any offense and i feel that is all that needs to be said now. JD if you would like to discuss the video Dnote me or you can email me at Sgt.Kain@yahoo.com thanks. moking:
ShadowMom	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 10:47 AM I'll probably get blasted for this every which way, but here's my two cents anyway. Let's clear the air a little. First, the video was made on the spur of the moment by one of our members, and as he points out-- we had asked many times for promos from the community with almost no response. Second, DMusic seldom censors anything. We are not the thought police, no matter what some of our more paranoid types might believe, and this was on another site as well. Third, Levi has apologized for any offense. And knowing Levi for quite a while, I believe him. I put it down to youthful exuberance. And fourth, everyone makes mistakes. It's what we do afterwards that defines us a person. And I will admit I made a mistake right here, because I should have talked privately with Levi, person to person, not admin to user, when he posted the video. So yes, part of the blame is mine. Now ask me how I feel about the term. "Gay" is not derogatory, but it was used in a negative way to bash iTunes. Growing up, the words "retard" and "retarded" used to cut like a knife when used in the same way. Then one day I realized that using those words in that way reflects on the user, not on my brother. And hey-- they're words. Words. I do know Levi would not intentionally do anything to hurt DMusic, and he would not intentionally offend anyone here. And I must respectfully disagree-- intent does count. This was not an official advertisement for DMusic, simply one person's attempt to contribute, a tribute if you will. Could he have done it better, in a more diplomatic fashion? Yes, obviously. But he tried. He tried to help. So, for the person who has never been guilty of insensitivity-- I have the first stone right here. Who wants to throw it? Just make sure you don't live in a glass house yourself.
Distilled1	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 11:21 AM Well now that Mom has spoken ... I will add my thoughts. I'm 40 years old, and I having two 13 year old teens hear this on a regular basis.. daily to say the least.."dad that's Gay" etc. I know what they mean and its used in the teen world all the time as a way to say Crap, poo, Sit, etc. but to say less that crap more silly, goofy, fruity, I mean all these could offend some one .. being that I hear it and as a musician try to always keep my "slang" whether it bee adjetive (why wont Spell checker find this word for me )slang (like Levi used) or that darn hip hop stuff I sound funny saying "shizel my nizle, money G MFer to keep a young look, as music has to survive through the young. are there ancients like me and many here that love music? yes, but the fact is Young people are who, in turn make music happen to the masses for the most part (at least what would or will or could be "popular music.) As SM says above the word retard was used a lot in the era I grew up in as well, and I have close family that made me get in fights over its use... till one day it came out of his mouth! and at someone else, it was funny and the person using it "at the family member in a evil way" had no come back and sulked away!.. words are just that words, and when used to describe things in a way that is not derogatory, are harmless, and as above in popular culture like south park, many movies, tv etc. can be funny as well... is it right? maybe not, but it is the way of the bastardized English language. also many of my non breeder friends, use "gay" in the same way! and a side note... I tunes SUCKS! (well if I had a MAC I would like it ) what I got out of the ad was just that for the younger teens and teens... DMusic radio is cool, killer, swell, fantastic, sweet, chill, beast (my sons fav. new that's cool word) etc. and it is! We need promo good or bad if you want my opinion! heck it takes 2-3 min to do a quick voice over a clip of one of your tracks for a drop on the radio, we have a very select few that have helped! and Levi on the spur of the moment one late night with no sleep, made this .. and I for one applauded him in trying to help make DMusic radio and DMusic.com something... I am a DMer for life (if it last that long) I give* my time Hours and hours a day sometimes more than 14 a day working on getting the radio to run, chasing bugs (I'm no coder please don't ask me to fix anything LOL) I use my bandwidth to stream the radio,12 hours a day and go live 2-6 hours a day.. where are you listeners? I have other places I promote "ALL" of DMusic.com and its artist that I pay out of pocket, that I can not afford, because I love this site, or place in the matrix... and I have asked for promos to add to this site (place) pics and links to the artist page and or CD sales.. with a very few taking the initiative to say yes, heres where you can get it all. Levi added some help, wright or wrong, please do the same! help, DMusic.com to me is a grass roots ONLY music/social site, and with out each and everyone of us taking that one step fwd. to promote it.. it will stay slow and low traffic, many of you remember when it had very high traffic... want it back help, and start asking or posting ideas on new threads.. I read a lot of the site is still broke... but it works better than many a popular web sites out there, its low lag, low bandwidth able and fun to boot.. "I in no way am pointing fingers at anyone, and am not an employee of dmusic, I just wanted to clear the air and post my :ghug: DMusic.com! :ghug:
Distilled1	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 11:29 AM DMusic.com Good please a preview button! that works Oh and Gary about the DMusic radio is a shoutcast... it always will be, that's the technology that allows us, can we have links here, maybe even a flash player? yep.. in time grasshopper Or would you prefer what many terrestrial radio stations do? have a player for only there Listen Live feed and have to download it and Active X's and a mess of registration to listen? Shoutcast allows us to stream "LIVE" not a playlist made up that changes each week/month. and believe it or not you can use most players , some like WMA need to have links created each change as WMP is odd like that.. and yes right now we are streaming at 96 and 128kbs only, would you listen if there was a 64k stream? let me know when we are back up (I don't know what happened) and I will broadcast just for you or any lo-fi only, a 64 or less stream
pullmytrigger	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 12:02 PM Working on the new video now. i will post as link here when i finish. give me a few days.
sinai	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 5:05 PM i have a flaming gay friend who uses itunes to download elton john/showtunes mash-ups so can i diffuse this situation by saying in this instance at least, it's a purely factual statement?
Distilled1	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 5:05 PM ^ ... this eal: walked into a bar...
Distilled1	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 5:06 PM oh hell! well how bout walked into a bar
sinai	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 5:10 PM i've lobbied hard for that damn seal emote, i fear it's a lost cause.
Distilled1	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 5:35 PM I think so
pullmytrigger	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 6:25 PM lol... i love forums..
GTOriginal	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 6:53 PM Hmmmm.... Wonder if the Salt Lake City Dept of Public Records would allow me to change the name on my birth certificate to GaRy Tucker. Might be easier to just dump the wife and go gay...
8111	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 4:20 AM I like anagrams, you could re-arrange those letters to spell Gay Trucker
aorpete	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 4:24 AM Bill!
zedsalt	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 4:27 AM For Bill: http://zed.dmusic.com/forum/4539
BOWILLIE	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 4:28 AM breaker breaker one niner.. thats a big ten four good booty.. er..good buddy.
GTOriginal	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 7:35 AM Looks like we got ourselves a gay trucker convoy. Watch out for Smokey!
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 7:45 AM Is this gay trucker convoy of the a) lame variety - i.e. they are driving Ford Econovans and dine at Dennys because the real truckers would beat the cr*p out of them at the roadside truck stop greasy spoon b) happy and jovial variety. They dance a merry jig with allcomers and always have a smile on their face and are always ready to go up a tree and rescue a cat for a crying little kid? c) of the homosexual variety - (blackadder fans may remember - squirry the squirrel goes meep, meep, meep) and lend their trucks as floats to the Gay Pride events ? Me Gots to know.
GeneHilbert	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 8:04 AM I'll do one better. Drop the r in Gary so now it's Gay. Then change the T to F. So now you're Gay Fucker.......... LOL
GTOriginal	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 8:25 AM Wow I never thought of that! I swear this is the very second time that has been brought to my attention haha... On 30th Aug 2009, evansorchid said: Gay ucker might not work once you hit the big time. The dreaded 'F' word is one letter way as well...
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 8:38 AM Wasn't that the name of Ben Stiller's character in Meet The Parents? Actually, twas Gaylord Focker. Reminds me of being a teen and asking for shopping mall security to put out an announcement for a missing friend, Michael Hunt, better known as Mike. 'Attention Shoppers - Have you seen Mike Hunt ....' etc
leflaw	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 12:36 PM Put in the best light, maybe he was using the word gay the way Seth Rogan used it in 40 year old virgin Wanna know how I know you're gay? Because you like Coldplay. ..
pullmytrigger	Date: September 1, 2008 @ 2:02 PM Just btw, whats done is done, JD and i have talked and all is well! Hats off to you all now... go get hit by gary tucker the gay trucker.
zedsalt	Date: September 2, 2008 @ 3:13 AM My little brother used to work with a Mike Hunt, and that's how the guy insisted he be referred to when paged. "That's the name on my birth certificate, and that's what I want you to call me!"
joycedavis	Date: September 2, 2008 @ 3:32 AM i'm a little overwhelmed by all that was posted here. i'm doing my best not to take it all personally. was i being made fun of? everyone involved in the video and i have communicated and all seems fine. like i have already said, i should have done my homework and contacted each person individually rather than post here - believe me, i won't be posting on the forum any time soon. peace---jd
GTOriginal	Date: September 2, 2008 @ 4:10 AM Joyce I don't think anyone is picking on you - I'm certainly not. Looks like your post launched a little debate about semantics, in a typical DMusic Forum Free For All fashion but I don't think you should take any of it personally at all.
joycedavis	Date: September 2, 2008 @ 8:06 AM ok. to all---jd
GeneHilbert	Date: September 2, 2008 @ 9:50 AM We love you kid.... Especially me, just playing......
sinai	Date: September 2, 2008 @ 5:43 PM damned forums, now i'm curious what an elton john/showtune mash up would sound like.

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