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A rant about pissy people

Veracohr	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 1:21 AM If you don't want to read a personal rant, read no further. Today I found that all but one of my songs had thumbs-down votes, which weren't there yesterday. I don't mind this, in fact I'm surprised that after a month and the number of listens I've had that I hadn't gotten one yet. The problem is that I think I know who did this. Well, it could very likely all be my imagination and paranoia, but I'll explain. On a forum on another site, I posted a response to a post that had been around for a while and had hundreds of replies. I hadn't previously paid much attention to this thread, so I didn't have much idea of the previous discussion. Well, I gave my opinion on the subject of the post, which was not to his/her liking. The person got defensive and accused me of being basically a useless asshole, when I thought I was polite, yet honest. My signature that appears at the bottom of my posts on that forum is a link to my DMusic page. I have the distinct feeling this person followed the link and voted thumbs-down on my songs in a petty attempt to make me feel bad. Now I know this sounds conceited. There could very well be someone who disliked my songs enough to vote thumbs-down, but the timing of this just screams at me. The day after my post on that forum, and all the thumbs-downs at once. I started to rant some more about this person right here, but I started to sound just as petty as the behaviour I'm describing, and I frown upon dissing someone on a forum they don't go to. It's the behaviour I'm ranting about here, not the person. Okay, now I sound like a conceited asshole, but I've ranted, so that's that!
azhazhellfire	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 1:40 AM never look at the thumbs, look at the comments. i mean, what do the thumbs tell you? it's extremely vague feedback. its useless. read the comments. come to think of it, i've never looked at the thumbs of my tracks. i'm gonna go and have a look.
azhazhellfire	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 1:42 AM i've just had a look, and what i said is confirmed. the comment of "rain falls from the ground" are all good. (the last one by pyro was a joke) and the thumbs are down.
flamingpyro	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 2:26 AM joke..... i only voted it down, cause YOU kept on going on about how it sucked..... (I thought it was good )
Jennae	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 2:39 AM VER...... yes this happens from time to time... to quite a few of us... I have been subjected myself at least once but yeah... some people what's up with them I would shrug it off although it is nerving... your music is what it is......with or without the thumbs.. I personally don't let them influence me, for most the time...... no one even remmebers to go back and thumb up or down..... but I always do!! I don't think I have ever thumb down either..... I will just not thumb be it that the case..... Im here to assist the other artist and support them... not knock anyone down... but my comments are honest, and I always try to say something constructive. but... you know you got good music... I have heard it... I know you do too... and... screw leting it rattle ya too much BRo! ain't nothing but a thumb thang BAAAAby
flamingpyro	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 2:51 AM "it aint nothing but a thumb thang" can i quote you on that jennae?
sinai	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 2:52 AM fuck em Vera, dunt even worry about some childish shit like that... aint even worth tha time
flamingpyro	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 3:53 AM yeah, there'll always be heads out there, spammers and the like! don't listen to em and by the way, your music rocks!
thumbtack	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:36 AM Unfortunately that's the problem with voting systems. If someone doesn't like your politics, your hair color, or even underwear type (boxers or briefs), they can take that out on you by interacting negatively. Look at the Dixie Chicks or Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon...They are paying for their comments about President Bush. It's their right top speak out, but it also the right of those who maybe affected by those positions to speak out as well, with acttions and words of their own.
icisnizz	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:48 AM It's all interaction in the forums, that's all. You can avoid the forums altogether and this wouldn't happen but personally this is the only forum I visit and actually type in because its the perfect place for artists of all ages and genres to interact. I also got a thumb down on one of my best songs yesterday but the comments speak better than the thumbs, I just ignore the thumb system altogether. Means nothing unless they actually say why. The fact that they went out of there way to give me a thumb down is funny enough. Rock on! Maybe they didn't like my battle raps.
icisnizz	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:51 AM change best = favorite
sinai	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 10:18 AM fuck em, i seem to be better at making enemiez than friendz anyway
milladrive	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 10:40 AM Veracohr, I'm quite glad you called attention to this. Granted, it may've been commented on privately to an admin, but I'm glad you posted it anyway. This lets the whole community know that this sorta thing goes on by our more jerky community members. And even if the community will probably never know who the asshole was who did this to ya, at least the staff does. My eyes are now pealed on this member. Your votes have been corrected.
Jennae	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 10:50 AM Go Milla it's your birthday Go Milla it's your birthday... does a brieg cabbage patch jig oh wait damn your bithday was 2 days ago. oh well all the same MILLA kickin' some AZZ yo! beware you evil thumb-downing JERK! for milla sees all oh yes he sees alllllllllll MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Jennae	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 10:51 AM brieg? BRIEF!!!!!!
milladrive	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 11:04 AM
JFF	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 11:34 AM This may be a silly idea, but readin through this got me thinkin (can u smell the burning?)... Would it be feasible to make it so that if you vote (either up or down) you have to comment otherwise it won't count?
thumbtack	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 11:37 AM I think that would skew the voting even worse. People may not vote period because they can then be identified and harrassed if they didn't like the track. The comments and voting should remain seperate imho..
JFF	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 11:58 AM didn't think of it like that, i see what you mean
TranceAction	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 12:05 PM Well... Who's the jerk here... You or that guy !?!? I don't think you're to blame, however, I haven't seen your reply to his in the forum you talk about, so this I cannot answer objectively. However, no matter your answer, I have always found it hard to believe, that some ppl, actually lower themselves to sewer level, too get back at another person What's with that. If you cant argue, dont throw shit! Try to learn argue... T.A.
CountryMusikMan	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 12:53 PM I say we throw them off the site for being non-professional. Someone's music is the reason they are here in the first place and it is not fair for someone to give them a bad rating just because whatever the argument it is it should always be based on talent and creativity.
Svensta	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 3:38 PM People are allowed to be morons and unprofessional and idiots. It's irritating sure, but this isn't a police state. Otherwise the cabal of they-who-decide-what-is-acceptable will control the world Just some morons with an agenda or someone who violently hated your music. Either way it's just some opinion. Don't let it enrage you unduly.
Veracohr	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 5:27 PM Oh...wow milla, thanks. I didn't really want them taken off, I was just in the grip of full-on anger when I wrote this post. After all, it really may have been someone who didn't like all my songs. Do you have to be a registered member to vote on a song? I really don't think this person would go to the trouble of registering at DMusic just to vote some thumbs-downs at me. By the way everyone, I just want to remind that the person I was talking about is not someone from DMusic, so don't think that it was a fellow DMusicer that (maybe) is the culprit. A little after making this post I felt that it PROVED I am a useless asshole, and a hypocrite at that for doing what I said I frown upon. But everyone's entitled to a few mistakes here and there, right? I made a rant about pissy people when that's exactly what I was! It wasn't so much the thumbs-downs I was angry about, it was the interaction I'm having with this person in this thread. I guess I just jumped on the thumb thing as something to bitch about. Hey CountryMusikMan: what's with your avatar? It revolves, but the C in the circle doesn't turn backwards like it should when it turns around the other way!
milladrive	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 5:43 PM Yes, one needs to be registered at DMusic to vote thumbs on a track. The person who did it knows exactly who they are. ..and so do we. It's not a huge deal, and indeed the person is entitled to their opinions. This just seemed malicious to me, all things considered. I'd also like to point out that voting on songs is indeed anonymous (and I believe it should be kept that way, separate from commenting). However, all things at this site can be traced with a little legwork, so that vandalism like that doesn't hafta be permanent.
Jennae	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 6:17 PM yep EVERYTHING..." id="41167">"all things at this site can be traced with a little legwork, " yep EVERYTHING...
ronnie71	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 6:31 PM even if they hate you or love you they still talk about you and for a musician that is wonderfule..because someone ranting how they hate your music the person they are talking to might say hey really dont like this asshole i think ill check out that music he didnt like.. also ive actually put a few thumbs down but it was on accident
Veracohr	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 6:41 PM Yeah, I've put a few thumbs downs as well, but intentionally. I've ceased this, though (I decided to stop doing so before this issue came up.)
TranceAction	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 7:19 PM Well I have voted both ways too, but because I thought the pieces deserved it IMHO. That's why it's there... right ? I mean... If nobody gives you :thumbdown: or AND leaves a comment of why, then I as an artist will never figure out why this piece sucks and why this hits big time, now would I ? Is it just me feeling this way or ?
flamingpyro	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:13 PM EVERYTHING? then you know about....... uhoh....
Expose	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:34 PM Milla is a damn awesome admin.
flamingpyro	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:35 PM no sherlock
flamingpyro	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:36 PM :wince: sorry thasp, that was a little mean.....
Expose	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:38 PM I don't use the thumbs anyway, It's annoying to wait for it to load, and if I like a lotta songs I listened to I'll thumbs up 'em and usually forgot where I was once the page reloaded.
Expose	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:38 PM pyr0, it's ok; I'm a lot worse
ChillinBuzz	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:41 PM thumbs are pointless, i gained almost all my thumbs down after getting into tangles with ppl. i say blow the damn things
Veracohr	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 9:50 PM Yeah, milla kicks ass, he just made me a DM Pick!
ashleighj	Date: April 11, 2003 @ 10:16 PM http://ashleighj.dmusic.net/journal/35539" id="41256">nonsense! the thumbs-down icon should be BIGGER! =P http://ashleighj.dmusic.net/journal/35539
TranceAction	Date: April 12, 2003 @ 3:57 AM Well... He may a killer admin... Hell they all are... Just look at the upload FAQ I did for them... Where is it ? Killed! I tell you
netarchy	Date: April 12, 2003 @ 7:04 PM In the end it only matters that you like the music you have created.