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sinai	Date: March 1, 2004 @ 11:07 PM why thank you pagan, i'm honored ... hundreth post mo fo's!
jess1561	Date: March 2, 2004 @ 2:21 AM ... lol...
JIGGAMAN42076	Date: March 2, 2004 @ 3:25 PM ryanwilliams looks like Theodore Huxtable...
ryanwilliams	Date: March 3, 2004 @ 2:04 AM Wow, that was something.
jess1561	Date: March 3, 2004 @ 4:29 AM who is that? -Jess
JIGGAMAN42076	Date: March 3, 2004 @ 10:04 AM "Wow, that was something. " Man, I am just clownin' around. I apologize if I offended you. ryanwilliams- Don't let what I said earlier in this thread make you think I am an asshole or anything. I feel you have the impression that I hate gays...Which I don't. The things I said earlier are just some of my opinions, and I realize my thoughts have no more bearing than anyone else's here. I chose to quit posting (in this thread) a few days ago until things cooled off some. But anyway, as far as I am concerned, I have no hard feelings towards anyone and hope that we can just focus on the humor present in the initial post of this thread.
joycedavis	Date: March 3, 2004 @ 12:15 PM All I know is if my partner of 18 yrs could have put me on her health insurance, we wouldn't be in danger of losing our house now because after I FINALLY got social security disability approved,, they said I made a few $$ more than the limit to get medicaid so I have to wait the 2 years to get medicare. (my medicines alone cost more than the ssdi income. god forbid I have to go into the hospital. on Dec 24th, they wanted the hospital bed i've been sleeping on in the front room of our 2 story house, because the medicaid would be over - or we could buy it for $1600. We had to put it on a credit card. They didn't care that it went on my partner's credit card. If we could file taxes together, we might not be looking at my patner's huge single file tax this year due to her having to work her ass off to pay the mortgage, 2 car payments, credit cards, etc etc all while I lay in the hospital in a coma. She might have worked her normal hours. Instead, in this year of financial crisis for us, she will owe a huge tax, and I - god only knows. Thank god she carries around the little piece of paper we so wisely made up when we became parents of the most beautiful, smart, courageous, honest, funny, wonderful little boy in the world when I got sick. It says that she has power of attorney - for both myself and alex. I carry one that says the same. Otherwise, she couldn't have made what turned out to be life saving and courageous decisions she did last April - and she probably wouldn't have been able to hold our son thru it all since on paper, I am his mother. But make no mistake - Gay Marraige or not - that little boy has two full blown mothers and god save the person who tries to mess with that. That said - I don't care what they call it - I just want equal rights. hell, the blue laws have changed in the name of people just wantin' to buy beer for sunday football games - we're being a bit over dramatic here, aren't we? Straight people have made a virtual mess of things! They made millions of gay people who NOW want to live happy, normal, "married-like" lives, only they've usually made the decision after years of being together, after "the affair", for the "right" reasons (you fill them in) and most, in much less expensive, less demonstrative ways. They just want to validate a life long committment - and in this world of every increasing financial pressure - a little validation in the pocketbook wouldn't hurt either, thank you very much. Now that's nnot going to crumble civilization as Mr. Bush know's it at all. JD
joycedavis	Date: March 3, 2004 @ 12:33 PM I think a listen to my song 'An old Time Romance' would be a healthy and downright soulful diversion for all you readers out there, especially those of you interested in this forum topic!
Gatherer	Date: March 3, 2004 @ 1:05 PM joyce.....your response should be required reading.
milladrive	Date: March 3, 2004 @ 1:18 PM Personally, I think the laws should be changed so that single people (i.e., people who choose to not marry) can have the same rights as those who've decided to buy into the institution of wedlock. Yes, I believe people should be able to marry whomever they wish, and yes I believe that gay people should be allowed to pay alimony and go thru all the same tribulations that straight people do (if they choose to), but I also believe that those who choose to not marry at all shouldn't be penalized for their decision. If I say I want you on my health insurance, that should be my choice. If I say I want you to inherit my house, that should be my choice. If tax laws were made to be 15% across the board, there'd be no need for a joint return and there'd be one less "benefit" of legal marriage. Etc. I'm not married, nor do I ever plan to be. I want equal rights, too.
woodhead	Date: March 4, 2004 @ 12:31 AM here here, that would be nice, why should I have to pay more taxes because I am not married and have no children. Hell if you ask me, I am a total independent, the only cost is me, and I have full insurance and retirment benies. So why do I have to 5000 in taxes a year???? give me a friggin break. And as for joyce davis, I stand behind you 100% you should have all the beneis of a married couple and you are practily married any way so if you want it legal, yuou should have it. Put it to a vote and I will vote in your favor.
100thmonk	Date: April 29, 2004 @ 12:32 AM
MisledMayhem	Date: April 29, 2004 @ 2:15 AM marriage is about love....if you love someone marry them, it shouldn't matter same gender or not, it shouldn't matter if the bible says it's ok or not, it's supposed to not even have a say in the United States(though it obviously does). Traditions all end someday, and I'm all for ending a tradition that prevents two people from being together in the same way that another two people are alowed to be. It's far smaller than the Civil Rights movements of the past, but if equality toward everyone is the ideal of this country, then this movement is a step in the right direction. -Peace and Love

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