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guitaroo	Date: November 14, 2005 @ 9:34 AM I agree with Stratwizard on this....All styles of music have passion...and in my opinion especially rock
Alecs	Date: November 14, 2005 @ 4:41 PM I also agree with strat on this, but on the fact that shred takes emotions other than fury. I mean just listen to Altitudes by Jason Becker. You can't say all he felt while playing that was fury.
Bhairava	Date: November 14, 2005 @ 7:11 PM I agree with Strat too. Random huh. I agree with what you're saying man its just I think there is more to it and I can't quite put my finger on it. oh and one thing... [Quote] ^You're wrong. Shred needs a lot of passion. How else would you dedicate yourself to the instrument for years...? [/Quote] I've met plenty of people that I truly believe play purely out of wanting to be big and show off and that is their only passion. Is that a musical passion or just a passion for image? I guess thats more what I'm kind of trying to get at. People that say play shred to compare themselves to others only and try and show off as better then others. Because I think its partly competetion which drives shred unfortunately just because it allows for a lot of ego to get in if you're not careful. I mean its so amazing what people like vai can do that its hard not to have an ego about it and many people have huge ones. Obviously not all and they are people I admire for it. I think thats more what I was getting at. I hope I wasn't too confusing. I've kind of suffered because of the whole ego and shred thing at school so it really matters to me. I'd say everysingle shredder there apart from maybe one in a big group at school do it entirely for image. They all seem to listen to similar music and it feel like an unseen rule of what you're allowed to listen to or not and they seem to have similar views on most things and dress similarly for that matter. I can't stand that side of music cause I didn't conform to them and kind of got left outside because of that. Any similar experiences?
GreatGooglyM...	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 12:36 PM Not quite... Everybody in my school thinks I'm a freak cause I listen to Vai and walk around with shirt sporting the multi-color cover of Passion and Warfare... I've actually never met anyone, who has practiced shred just for the image. Of course, Yngwie has a big ego, but he's an amazing musician as well. I started practising shred cause it was the ultimate thing for me. I didn't find any interest in other styles, and when I heard first time some Vai's song, I knew it was that what I wanted to do with guitar.
Bhairava	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 2:05 PM You see, now that is really lucky I think.
Alecs	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 4:43 PM lucky? why lucky? First off, Strat where'd u get a P&W shirt?! Plus the image of shred guitar players isn't very great in the eye of the public. Generally people think that shredders are down-and-out losers who live with their parents, play dungeons and dragons and smoke all day. People not farmiliar with guitar either think of you as that person or Yngwie. He seems to get more attention from non-guitar players for some reason. So if you're shredding for the image HAVE FUN!
marcosalvarez	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 4:49 PM our musical expresion is a mirror of our personality..if your ego is big in your life..so it will be when you play...it hasn´t anything to do with the style you play .. i started repeating patterns from nuno or satch or vai until i felt that that wasn´t my way...the peak experience comes when you develop your own style as an elongation of your own personality
Alecs	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 5:30 PM skellig's like friggin confucious!
Bhairava	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 5:44 PM Lucky because any music should be primarily about the music and being around loads of people that think everything is just image takes away from that don't you think so? I mean so much of modern music is image. When I'm in bands the first thing they do is try and make me dress a certain way or put on loads of eyeliner and stuff. Its insecurity, man. People just don't care what something is unless it is presented in a certain way. That sucks. I've never heard of that Shred Image you described DhoomsPic other then other guitarists describing the truth about practice. Like the truth is the best players probably were loosers that spent all their time at home practicing. I haven't seen non-guitar players have that opinion of shreders before.
Alecs	Date: November 15, 2005 @ 6:50 PM Yea, Bhairava, I guess I just see it so much because Green Day Fever has swept through my school. Nobody is safe!!!!
Bhairava	Date: November 16, 2005 @ 4:01 AM Oh thats really nasty stuff. The government should make some kind of Anti-greenday drug. Its more Blink 182 here. But there is a kind of community of shredders here as well as all that. And then the people that listen to emo.
GreatGooglyM...	Date: November 16, 2005 @ 6:31 AM DhoomsPic I got my P&W shirt from Vai's gig and I believe you can buy them from his website as well. I disagree with Skellig about the musical expression. If you have a big ego in life doesn't mean that you have a big ego with music. I've seen a lot of guys with big egos and when someone has given them an instrument to play, they've all become very quiet and shy with it . I agree though that the peak is when you develop your own style.

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