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marcosalvarez	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 3:45 PM For me,bass playing is the natural evolution for a guitar player.A much more challenging instrument both rythmically and harmonically.Mastering guitar is really a serious issue..but mastering bass requires a really focused attitude
Rikki27	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 4:06 PM okay to "master" guitar u need to learn 1. a shit load of chord shapes 2. a hell of a lot of scales 3. how to time yourself properly 4. and when on stage show off... But for bass, dont you just neet to learn which notes are where, and a couple of fancy tricks. Im sorry, but guitar is far harder to "master"
shouhei	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 4:07 PM
shouhei	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 4:07 PM errr.... arpeggios are chords.
shouhei	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 4:08 PM and scales are arpeggios. d'oh... 3 posts
marcosalvarez	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 4:25 PM Rikki27...i am afraid you haven´t heard many bass players lately..
sqrlcub	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 4:29 PM I can play the bassline and melody line at the same time on a guitar. With that said, Rufus Reid still rocks.
evansorchid	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 4:47 PM This is just silly..... I happen to play both. It's simply a matter of 'thinking differently' when you approach each instrument. Like a saxophonist is different from a pianist.
marcosalvarez	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 5:20 PM Well i don´t think exactly the same.....In fact you can play guitar as a drummer or a bass as a pianist..examples out there are countless...somehow the creative challenge comes when you transcend those boundaries between instruments and start thinking on how to approach your instrument from a different perspective..
pog	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 6:24 PM Interesting thread topic... personally, I approach the guitar and bass (well, these days, anyway) not by looking at the instrument by itself, but more by looking at the bigger picture. I look at the band playing as a whole, and depending upon the instrument that I'm playing, I put in what I feel should really be there in relation to the overall sound. I very rarely listen to one instrument by itself when I play. For example, when I play guitar, I listen to the rhythm section (drum and bass) and work off the key and time they are running with. I focus upon strengthening the rhythm section with a nice chord arrangement, and adding flavor riffs to spice it up where I think it would be cool. When I play bass, I work off the time of the drummer, and the key of the rhythm guitar parts... sometimes you carry the band and that can very rarely involve hitting one note 357 times, but it only gets boring if you aren't aware of whats going on around you. More often than not, the bass is working off the kick drum, and drives the whole rhythm section of a band. Essentially, what I've found with working as a bassist is, if the drummer plays at one beat, style, etc, without any variety or versatility, (or the guitarist, or the bassist,) then the overall outcome is usually mediocre.
hate9wicket	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 7:25 PM I usually find if the song started w/ a Bass line, everything else is put in to play off of it, the guitar things I put in are more or less the 'color' to fill in the 'pencil' work. Sometimes I work backwards from that, esp. on covers, it is easier to chart out and record a rhythm part, then fill in the blanks w/ Bass, and use that to cover up my lousy, nails on chalkboard string noise on the changes-guitar work. It is just easier for me to work things out on bass, just playing and writing, maybe because of the body styles if I make notes while noodling, not quite as awkward to lean over and write things down w/ a solid body bass, than it is w/ a jumbo acoustic in my lap.
EchoMinor	Date: August 30, 2006 @ 8:37 PM i think both are equal depending on what you wish to accomplish with the instrument.
marcosalvarez	Date: September 2, 2006 @ 12:12 PM yeah.And also playing bass helps you to develop your skills as a guitar player..i remember being stuck at a certain point in a song..then taking the bass and the harmony i was looking for just appeared,kinda focusing my attention in the essential.
EchoMinor	Date: September 2, 2006 @ 12:34 PM i agree marcosalverez, so many times i've done that. couldnt think of something that fit in a certain song, and just decided to focus on the bassline and ended up coming up with alot of new stuff. like on my Without Words track, i couldnt think of anything to add to the guitar parts, picked up the bass and ended up coming up with harmonies with the bassline.
GreatGooglyM...	Date: September 2, 2006 @ 1:45 PM You can't master anything. The whole thread is pointless and full of bullshit.
marcosalvarez	Date: September 2, 2006 @ 2:04 PM Yeah you can my dear....you can even master the way you breath if you pay attention..mastering is not only a technical issue if that is what you think... As 4 your second opinion..well is very reasonable and deserves my respect
EchoMinor	Date: September 2, 2006 @ 3:27 PM well i agree, you will never master anything, you will always have a chance to learn more and improve...my chen tai chi sifu would always tell me that.
GreatGooglyM...	Date: September 2, 2006 @ 3:27 PM There's no such thing as perfect; you can always improve. Therefore you can't master anything.
EchoMinor	Date: September 2, 2006 @ 3:31 PM well....if one of you happen to be jesus or something. eh i dont own a white robe
GreatGooglyM...	Date: September 2, 2006 @ 3:37 PM Well, it's an amusing story. Bible - I mean.
jewsus	Date: September 3, 2006 @ 6:01 PM yeah, this is pretty true. my ex used to date a guitarist. she definately says us bassists do it better.
Rikki27	Date: September 3, 2006 @ 6:05 PM jewsus
EchoMinor	Date: September 3, 2006 @ 8:17 PM well i think the need for bigger strings means the bassist is trying to make up for something...
hate9wicket	Date: September 3, 2006 @ 8:29 PM I think of a Bass as just an extremly low Ukelale AND those extra 2 strings on a guitar are training wheels
Rikki27	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 7:59 AM well, seen as basses are bigger and heavier, AND take more money to operate, they are definetly compensating for something
shouhei	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 8:07 AM last time I checked, it took no money to operate a bass. its all in the fingers
Rikki27	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 9:12 AM Bass strings cost nearly 5times that of guitar strings, there amps cost about double that of a normal guitar amp with the same rating, and they generaly cost alot more to make. ACTUALLY
EchoMinor	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 10:30 AM well bass strings last longer aswell. i dont think i've popped a bass string, just changed them because they were dirty. did notice alot of the amps are more expensive though.
shouhei	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 10:35 AM aye well u don't really need a fantastic amp to practice do you? I just put my electric thru the computer & stereo most of the time. bass strings are expensive, but unless you're anal/rich, you tend not to change them as soon as they get dull. bass is just another instrument. it's no better or worse than piano, mandolin, guitar, saxophone, clarinet, etc. etc. this whole thread is pointless imho.
GreatGooglyM...	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 10:58 AM True. No instrument is superior.
GeneHilbert	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 11:38 AM Bassist need bigger G strings
jewsus	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 2:34 PM i dunno if i agree that no instrument is superior to another. i personally think the kora is way cooler than a kazoo. and that's saying a lot, cos kazoos are damn cool.
shouhei	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 2:49 PM it all comes down to relative opinions. what matters at the end of the day is how good a musician you are, not what instrument you play.
celtaidd	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 8:40 PM Lrts face it, Bassists do it differently
imemine	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 10:15 PM Bassists do it with their fingers~
K3VIN	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 10:16 PM why would u subject urselves to a debate on the difficulty of instrument playing. IDC how hard it is what sounds good sounds good.
GeneHilbert	Date: September 4, 2006 @ 10:25 PM
dsindel	Date: September 5, 2006 @ 3:22 AM it is up to the individual to be superior on 'any' instrument(s)...!
GreatGooglyM...	Date: September 5, 2006 @ 10:02 AM Bleh.
Alecs	Date: September 7, 2006 @ 1:00 PM There are things guitarists can do that there's no possible way bassists could, and the other way around. They are different instruments, it's a matter of personal preference. I don't think anyone can say either is BETTER
EchoMinor	Date: September 7, 2006 @ 4:00 PM well honestly i think the bass is heavier in weight than the guitar so if you were hit against the head with one, im sure the bass would cause the bigger brain trauma
DrUmMeR-GuY	Date: September 7, 2006 @ 8:07 PM depends, On how you play, or how you are influenced. Like you can definately be a solo'ing bass player, or u can be a bass player!
Snoogans775	Date: September 9, 2006 @ 3:04 AM don't change subjects, fourcalendar was on to something, but excuse me while I smash my re-furbed bass into the head of every musician on the planet who feels the need to attack other musicians! jebeezus! we're all on the same melodramatic musically informed boat here, in other words, none of my guitars would make a good weapon, a dreadnought would just break over the head, causes no real transfer of force onto the target, but an electric bass, or migosh, an upright! one could raise armies of socially dysfunctional, left to the root notes because the guitarist has shitty timing and syncopation makes him shit his pants, bass-playing maniacs! don't piss these people off!!
zedsalt	Date: September 9, 2006 @ 11:13 AM A Gibson (or Epi) Ripper would probably do some damage in a fight, but I have an old Kay that would beat it. The body's about four inches thick, and the neck is dozens of laminates (It's the one between the trombone and didjeridoo here: http://files.dmusic.com/music/z/e/zed/studio2.jpg ).
EchoMinor	Date: September 9, 2006 @ 11:50 AM snoogans? we have shitty timing? make a claim against attacking other musicians, but then turn around and say we have shitty timing and syncopation? well...i got a jazz box lying around somewhere! that @#$%er aint exactly light as a feather...
TameasDust	Date: September 10, 2006 @ 9:19 AM Ok I am confuzzled ... Other than a guitar looking like a banjo but aint is there any other differences ... can someone record a sample of each playing the same tune to see what the diffences are ... do they all look the same or just sound the same?
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: September 10, 2006 @ 12:05 PM I wouldn't want to be hit on the head with one of those Rickenbacker basses that Lemmy from Motorhead uses
sinai	Date: September 10, 2006 @ 12:07 PM nothing says " you!!! " like getting a wammy bar shoved in yer ear...
GreatGooglyM...	Date: September 10, 2006 @ 3:27 PM Bass does more damage in a fight? Biggest bullshit I ever heard.
EchoMinor	Date: September 10, 2006 @ 6:33 PM these Bc Rich's are really heavy
Rikki27	Date: September 11, 2006 @ 3:58 AM damn googly u could kill someone with that!
jewsus	Date: September 11, 2006 @ 12:24 PM awesome headstock on that mr. moogly. but in theory a bass would exert more force than a guitar. only because the average weight of a bass is more than the average weight of a guitar. if a person was to swing both bass and guitar with the same velocity at the same target, the force at impact would be greater with a bass. simply because it has more mass and weight. now that's not to say that one person couldn't cause more damage with a guitar than another person with a bass. it just comes down to basic physics. i believe the equation is something like : mass x velocity = force. i'm sure if a 12 year old kid came after you with a fender p-bass you'd be a lot less scared than if it were a 250 lbs man carrying a strat.
Opossum	Date: September 11, 2006 @ 12:31 PM I'm sorry but that shade of green just isn't my color.
MinisterofSc...	Date: September 11, 2006 @ 12:48 PM The original topic in mind here: One isn't necessarily harder to master (or "get really fvcking good at") than the other, it just depends on what you have more affinity towards. At least, that's what makes sense to me. It's probably easier to learn to juggle for people who are really into Circe de Sole (spelling somebody?) and easier to learn how to hit people in the face with juggling balls for people who HATE Circe de Sole
Orion	Date: September 12, 2006 @ 2:28 AM you need bass,guitar,& drums to make a band!
Orion	Date: September 12, 2006 @ 2:29 AM this is the same fight our band has we have't to work as a team!
shouhei	Date: September 12, 2006 @ 7:20 AM my double bass pwns ALL guitars. ha.
evansorchid	Date: September 12, 2006 @ 9:51 AM ...Guitarists pick their nose. ...Bass players mine for gold.
GeneHilbert	Date: September 12, 2006 @ 10:01 AM FourCalendar... Dude….. I had a chance to buy that exact guitar – I think the guy wanted $600 for it. I made an offer of $300 but it was a no go. The only difference was someone had placed LED's and a battery in it - so the thing would light up and strobe.... very kewl..... oh yes - very heavy – too heavy....
Alecs	Date: September 12, 2006 @ 12:12 PM I think we all know what would kick everything's ass in a fight: So, yes, basses win
Orion	Date: September 15, 2006 @ 12:38 PM http://images2.dmusic.com/users/o/r/i/orion/56698.jpg
Orion	Date: September 15, 2006 @ 12:40 PM This is B.C.Rich Warlock deluxe!
EchoMinor	Date: September 15, 2006 @ 3:17 PM gene how was the tone on that thing
bmccosar	Date: October 25, 2006 @ 9:40 PM Two words: Charlie Hunter. over and out.
Snoogans775	Date: October 26, 2006 @ 12:00 AM I fear moogly's guitar. btw, if i was a little over the top, I am a guitarist first, bass player eay second, everybody has bad timing, especially if they suck at playing.
plungerboy	Date: October 26, 2006 @ 9:05 AM When exactly is this battle going to take place? I need to plan my weekend...
ShadowDad	Date: October 26, 2006 @ 11:58 AM
Alecs	Date: October 29, 2006 @ 1:44 AM well, shadowdad, if you're gonna go that direction you might as well go all out BAM! I win! This thing will NEVER break a string

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