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evansorchid	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 7:25 AM Okay.....I'm stumped. How do I sell my album on Musicpill? There's a link at the bottom of the homepage that reads 'Sell Your CD' I've clicked on it and it basically states that as a subscriber to Dmusic that it's free for me to sell my album. ...so I click the continue button (as I don't see any other options)....and it takes me back to the Musicpill homepage. What am I doing wrong?
imemine	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 11:06 AM Check this out skippy...... Meat Dbeatles: Vol. 1 Review by Gary Hill Music Street Journal Because - Evans Orchid Thereâ€™s a twisted, almost Alice Cooper-like vibe to this. Although itâ€™s rather strange, I like it a lot and would consider it a highlight of the disc.
GTOriginal	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 11:48 AM Or, by way of contrast: Here Comes the Sun - Gary Tucker Review by Gary Hill Music Street Journal Iâ€™ve always really liked this track, but something seems very â€œoffâ€ about the vocal performance here. If thereâ€™s a track Iâ€™d skip this is it. The music itself is good (although the production feels a bit cheesy) but the vocals just donâ€™t cut it.
GeneHilbert	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 12:15 PM evansorchid - The pill still has issues. Go through either Tracy or Vic....... Very Kewl Review......... That should be posted in the news section.
Distilled1	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 2:00 PM we are working on it, will see whats going on with it today and get back to you by Monday PM
ChillinBuzz	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 2:46 PM The link appears to be wrong. It goes back to the main page...
Distilled1	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 2:49 PM yeah there are a ton of bad links on music pill. I am trying to find them all. this is a new one to add eveans I'll have an answer for you Monday for sure.
evansorchid	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 4:38 PM Thanks everyone. I'll check back on Monday to see if there's another option. Oh, and thanks Ime for posting that review for Because. I hadn't seen that yet. Here's the link if anyone want to check it out. http://www.musicstreetjournal.com/index_cdreviews_display.cfm?id=102148
smtucker	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 6:00 PM Gary don't be upset. I listen to the CD all the time, and there is NOTHING wrong with your voice, or the song. It is awesome, and the person who wrote that is a moron.
Distilled1	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 6:35 PM I like Garys version as well...
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 7:33 PM Was a pretty weak review all in all. The musicstreetjournal mostly exists to promote progressive rock, hence the amount of references to prog rock in each review. How a Beatles cover album fits into that genre is obviously questionable. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but stick to what you know - I am not a fan of country music, so I wouldn't write a review on Travis Tritt or The Dixie Chicks. The reviewer is totally hung up on Genesis and Marillion, so I wouldn't take his review too seriously.
GTOriginal	Date: February 14, 2009 @ 9:05 PM Wasn't trying to let on (thanks Sharon) but that did bum me out a bit. LQ & Distilled, thanks. Sincerely.
GeneHilbert	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 12:02 AM Dude.....! You did good on the tune. Move on, don't dwell on it, and give 'em Hell next time.
BOWILLIE	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 7:06 AM yea i agree. if it wasnt good enough to capture the essence of track and be included in this sites project i dont think larry would have mastered and included. i trust his opinion way more than some bozo internet reviewer who limits self to his own preferences. i had a bad one from juke box jury a few years ago mainly consisting of the use of midi drums* of coarse he was right but at the time it was what we had to use..we still use them but a much better improved realistic program. if frad and hatsy hadnt gone to bat and crawled these guys..i would have probally suffered a big setback creatively.(they later asked if i would like to join the review board as a midi reviewer..lolol.you got to think your stuff is acceptable by at least a few to feel secure in presenting anything. you have done that several dozen times over here..so screw that review.
GTOriginal	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 8:21 AM Thanks guys. Was off the canvas hours ago, and am in the corner waiting for the next bell.
Guest	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 8:31 AM got your mouthpiece and spit bucket empty and ready gary
Guest	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 8:44 AM Look on the bright side Gary, some asshole who likes prog rock doesn't appreciate you. A compliment if I ever heard it.
ChillinBuzz	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 8:47 AM On 14th Feb 2012, GTOriginal said: Or, by way of contrast: Here Comes the Sun - Gary Tucker Review by Gary Hill Music Street Journal Iâ€™ve always really liked this track, but something seems very â€œoffâ€ about the vocal performance here. If thereâ€™s a track Iâ€™d skip this is it. The music itself is good (although the production feels a bit cheesy) but the vocals just donâ€™t cut it. I get a feeling that this person, like many others understandably, EXPECT a cover to merely clone the original... Clones of original songs labelled covers are a waste of vinyl/plastic/drive space. Covers should have the covering artists' feel to it, else it wouldn't be a bloody cover!
Ghostie	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 9:55 AM
Ghostie	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 10:10 AM That is Gary Hill! Does he look like a guy you could trust? I don't like soooo!
farfor44	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 10:26 AM Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark Everyone's entitled to an opinion,but now I wanna hear Gary Hill's music at Myspace
ChillinBuzz	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 10:44 AM On 15th Feb 2012, Ghostie said: Awesome
evansorchid	Date: February 15, 2009 @ 9:29 PM While I'm waiting for the top brass to get back with me about The Pill, I thought I'd add my two cents to the direction of this discussion. GT, I'm sorry that this guy left you a poor review. Personally I like your rendition. I think it adds an element of fun to the disk much in the same manner that John and Paul would give Ringo a tune to croon. I think it's a great track to have on the album. But you shouldn't take his review to heart.....I mean hell...if I had a dollar for every time someone told me that my vocals didn't cut it, I would've thrown in the towel long ago and stuck to being an instrumentalist. But, I also don't quite agree with attacking this Gary Hill guy. It's just one man's opinion. I seem to recall a few of the active members of this site mentioning in another thread how they didn't like the reggae version of Imagine (which I love) and the country version of I've Just Seen A Face, and these active DM members didn't get taken to the woodshed for expressing their opinions.
GTOriginal	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 7:12 AM Pffft, was over it an hour later. I agree we shouldn't trash this guy. The only regret I have now is that as Ringo, I didn't do the No-NoSong.
leflaw	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 7:50 AM Hey Gto, nothing I couldn't fix if I had the multitrack ))
ChillinBuzz	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 8:24 AM Reggae version of Imagine
Ghostie	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 9:23 AM Spike that pic is just a parody, I'm not attacking him ... if I was I would of sent the pic to him! now everybody hug!
zedsalt	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 9:34 AM I had a dream just this a.m. which involved getting a poor review of sorts. I was working at a place where almost all of my co-workers were women, and a tape of some of my stuff was playing. I remember thinking, "Ooh, now, this one is NOT one of my better songs" right about the time that all the ladies started moaning in protest, and one of them made a dive for the boombox's power cable. That's right: they were so repulsed that they couldn't take the time to find the proper buttons on the boombox to end their misery. When the music stopped, they all had to take a moment, sit back, and enjoy their relief. The loudest among them said, "Whew! Yeah, I'm sorry, but that girl sounds like a hick". I usually enjoy bad reviews, provided they come from the right source, and this was no exception. I got a genuine kick out of it. When I woke, though, I did think to myself, "Wait a sec'...that girl sounds like a hick? Must've been some of my earlier stuff..."
leflaw	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 9:42 AM Hey Gto, nothing I couldn't fix if I had the multitrack ))
TameasDust	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 12:17 PM Bump
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 3:39 PM That person who wasn't taken to the woodshed was me BTW I didn't really critique those tracks, I just said they weren't my cup of tea, but I also said that they probably would be other people's cup of tea. I actually like reggae and ska quite a bit, Bob Marley is one of my heroes and born on the same day as me. Toots and The Maytals, Lee Scratch Perry and Eddy Grant are also favourites of mine, I just prefer ORIGINAL reggae material, I also don't like that reggae version of 'somewhere over the rainbow'. I don't think, sadly in my blinkered tunnel vision, that I can ever grow to like country bluesgrass, so make no apologies. I didn't take the reviewer out to the woodhouse either - but the guy was so prog rockcentric, that I'm surprised he didn't compare everyone's vocals to Geddy Lee and suggest 'this song would be better if it alternated between a 17/8 and a 7/8 timing signature, with a 10 minute moog and guitar call and return dual soloing'
Guest	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 4:19 PM although its decent i wouldnt consider it a stand out. (this boy ) i like the just about a compliment matched with a slap back down back in school i allways considered a c* a good grade
GeneHilbert	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 9:22 PM One thing to remember - there is no bad PR, as long as their talking about you. It's when they stop talking about you that you need to worry.
TameasDust	Date: February 16, 2009 @ 9:26 PM Bad PR gets you on cnn
GTOriginal	Date: February 17, 2009 @ 7:03 AM On 16th Feb 2012, leflaw said: Hey Gto, nothing I couldn't fix if I had the multitrack )) Happy to send individual tracks if you think it needs to be redone.
TameasDust	Date: February 17, 2009 @ 5:26 PM I still think the pill needs a suppository
GTOriginal	Date: February 18, 2009 @ 8:26 PM I have a whole new respect for this site, know why? Because nobody referred to this review as "constructive" in nature. : :thmbsup: Keeping an eye on the thread, cause I have 5 albums so far, working on #6.
GTOriginal	Date: February 18, 2009 @ 8:26 PM er...
GeneHilbert	Date: February 18, 2009 @ 11:40 PM That's being constructive....... LOL
GeneHilbert	Date: February 18, 2009 @ 11:41 PM The Devil made me do it.....
evansorchid	Date: February 19, 2009 @ 9:15 PM On 17th Feb 2012, TamerDust said: I still think the pill needs a suppository My god....I think I actually agree with something Tamerdust said.
evansorchid	Date: November 27, 2009 @ 3:23 PM So.....MusicPill doesn't pay it's artists? ......talk amongst yourselves.
Distilled1	Date: November 27, 2009 @ 5:56 PM music pill dose pay its artist I have been paid for the 5 CDs that sold of mine. and as far as I have seen dating back more than 5 years there are no help desk tickets put in for non payment and in fact not many sales listed. the only place I have seen the accusation is in a forum thread. For those that are claiming this they need to put in a help desk ticket relating to music pill or e-mail me @distilled1@dmusic.com With notes of: what I sent and here is what sold. dates etc. I can then look at the invoices (that date back to the 90's btw)and investigate.
zedsalt	Date: November 28, 2009 @ 10:10 AM Thanks, Dis', for clearing up one of the situations which concerned me. I would've sworn that you were one of the people who had remarked here in the forums about not having received proper compensation from Musicpill for YEARS. If anyone else who has sold through Musicpill would be so kind as to set my mind at ease about this, it would be much appreciated. This has really been messing with my head.
zedsalt	Date: November 29, 2009 @ 10:01 AM Well, after finding Musicpill non-payment complaints from Dis' in the Internet Archive, and after he reminded me that he's in a position of authority there now, I decided the best place for me to rant would probably be in that thread Tameasdust started that was basically a big DMusic lovefest. It was a fairly recent thread, but I went through the twelve pages of forum, and it's no where to be found, so I figure it has been deleted. I suppose this is probably the next best place for this: I don't disagree strongly with any of the positive things Tamers said about the site. I doubt anyone familiar with DMusic would say those traits were not part of the site's "personality". I would go so far as to say that I believe...on the balance, for the most part...those positive characteristics still are very much in evidence here on a daily basis. But that's the point where I'd expect to run into some disagreement. I'd be forced to admit that nearly all of the people I consider responsible for that positive reputation have no plans to return. I'm talking about a group of people with...literally, collectively...centuries of experience between them in a science not many decades old. They were asked for their opinions and advice. Their contributions...some deeply insightful, informed by that wealth of experience, mostly common sense...their contributions were summarily ignored. That's part of the site's personality, too. But whichever...um, well, I referred to the site's "personality"; I'll call these its "character flaws"...whichever particular character flaws were involved there, they're pretty minor compared to the situation with Musicpill. That's part of the site's personality, too. The continuing disrespect...not just for these specific artists, not merely for independent musicians as a segment of society...but a general dismissal of their art as...well, as art...that's an intrinsic part of what I've been contributing to here at DM for a little over five and a half years.
Distilled1	Date: November 29, 2009 @ 1:57 PM Do know as well, I have only recently become an admin of music pill (or took on the responsibility to try and get the process working properly) and I do not have access to any physical inventory as well I do not know if the reports I see are accurate at all. Post me a link to my complaint please, because I can't find it. I do know I complained about people buying and not getting a CD, that is one of the things I have been trying to fix.Along with an easy way to add a CD for sale and an instant payment per sale to a paypal account I am not going to go into details on a public forum, but the only issue I am aware of at this time are missing CDs, from "one" artist. if you know more Zed note me and any contact info so that I can get a hold of them and try and make sense out of it. again I ask anyone that I have not spoke to to please note me or email me any info or concerns so that I can look into it and try and resolve any issues.
zedsalt	Date: November 30, 2009 @ 9:46 AM It would have been a really good idea for me to have kept a word processor program open during my marathon Archive session and copy and paste every URL where there was a Musicpill non-payment complaint. Doing so would've REALLY driven the point home that what we're talking about is not an isolated incident but an endemic problem. Safe to say that if an act has sold a CD through Musicpill, he/she/they have had a problem. It's possible...maybe even likely...that where I erred was in expecting better. Maybe ALL of the online distributorships are like this. Growing up, I worked at nearly all of the least honest, most dangerous businesses in the area, and my experience has been that the "mom and pop shop" style operations were among the worst of the worst. Their greed, dishonesty, and disregard for human safety matched anything in the megacorporate world. I'd probably be more comfortable someplace with a more "traditional" user-content-driven, advertiser-supported approach and none of the "tip jar", distributorship, paid download (attempts), etc. bullshit...especially somewhere where all of that isn't paired with any "we're different; we really are like a family here" crap.
sunshine	Date: November 30, 2009 @ 11:06 AM maybe you should have zed, perhaps with the crash they lost valuable information...such as who is owed money from paid downloads. just trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
Distilled1	Date: November 30, 2009 @ 12:56 PM paid downloads go straight to the artist pay pal. dmusic takes not one cent of a download sale. Cds are paid after 25 dollars are accrued. after the per disk charge. In any case I am open for anyone to step forward with artist name and CD product name so I can investigate. please do so by d-note or to distilled1@dmusic(dot)com
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: November 30, 2009 @ 3:13 PM I think Rich is keen to sort out any problems so anyone with a concern on this issue could maybe think about PMing him with the details and give him a chance to investigate before any further claims are made. I think it's great that Rich is willing to be responsible for undertaking these investigations on behalf of the site and musicians concerned. Good job man.
zedsalt	Date: December 1, 2009 @ 9:28 AM I'm convinced that DNoting him will result in more vigorous and resolute efforts than repeated Help Desk ticket submissions have in the past.
ChillinBuzz	Date: December 1, 2009 @ 6:39 PM In the past, there was a "simple" system to WHERE the tickets went. If it was to do with staff, it was moved to a place where the staff were meant to deal with it (and it was out of sight of the admins who had ticket access). What happened after then is anyone's guess but it's obvious half the time nothing was done. I remember when I got into the helpdesk on my last admin stint that I spent a while clearing up a lot of the backlog at that point in time... It was ridiculous really, so kudos to Rich for even wanting to tackle any department at all.
GTOriginal	Date: December 8, 2009 @ 8:59 AM Kudos to me for wanting to end world hunger.
zedsalt	Date: December 8, 2009 @ 10:05 AM "Wanting to" just isn't good enough, Gairbear! I'm holding you to the same standard I'm holding Rich. I wanna see some results, dammit.
GeneHilbert	Date: December 8, 2009 @ 11:45 AM I've been complaining about the damn thing since it's inception. Don't hold your breathe.
GTOriginal	Date: February 2, 2010 @ 8:19 PM What I don't get is why does the site still exist and accept people's CD submissions if they are not able to pay as agreed, or even locate the CDs they still claim to have in stock? That's just fucked up and wrong.
victorsskull	Date: February 2, 2010 @ 8:43 PM Distilled1 Date: November 27, 2009 @ 5:56 PM quote \| report music pill dose pay its artist I have been paid for the 5 CDs that sold of mine. and as far as I have seen dating back more than 5 years there are no help desk tickets put in for non payment and in fact not many sales listed. the only place I have seen the accusation is in a forum thread. For those that are claiming this they need to put in a help desk ticket relating to music pill or e-mail me @distilled1@dmusic.com With notes of: what I sent and here is what sold. dates etc. I can then look at the invoices (that date back to the 90's btw)and investigate.
GTOriginal	Date: February 3, 2010 @ 12:34 AM Thanks Vic, that was very helpful. I notified Ditilled1 privately about this issue eight weeks ago. He assured me that he would look into it and get back to me, which hasn't happened yet. When I put these CDs up, I set my price as low as I could, because I was not trying to rape anyone for money, only share my tunes & get the production cost back. When I didn't get the big thirty bucks that was coming to me I submitted not one but two help desk tickets. When those got deleted unanswered, I unsubscribed from the site. That was about three years (or three hundred dollars) ago. Hopefully it was worth it. Bottom line: Pay me or return my CDs already.
victorsskull	Date: February 3, 2010 @ 8:54 AM ok then
zedsalt	Date: February 3, 2010 @ 9:52 AM There was a case late last year in the next "real" town west of here (real, as in, "more than a couple dozen houses kind of close to each other") in which someone had posted a photo of herself enjoying a ski vacation. She started an account with a small hosting service run by a nearby town's local newspaper, under an alias, posted the photo, called her favorite aunt, told her where she could get the photo and what password to use to access it, and within forty minutes of creating the account, deleted the only file in it and shut down the account. The reason for all the clandestine activity was that she was supposedly suffering from a neck injury sustained at work, and she had successfully sued her former employer over it. With nothing but suspicion fueled by vague rumors (they hadn't heard about the ski trip, for instance) and an internet connection, her former plant manager's nephew found what turned out to be sufficient admissible evidence to indict her for fraud and set up a counter suit to retrieve a year and a half's worth of damage payments. The lesson, kids, is that there is nothing "private" or "irretrievable" on the internet.
sween	Date: February 17, 2010 @ 11:48 AM here here!!
GTOriginal	Date: May 5, 2010 @ 5:20 PM November was a long time ago.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: May 5, 2010 @ 11:28 PM currently Dmusic is on geological time, where an ice age is regarded as a modern event on the timeline ... anything happening in less than 10,000 years causes geologists to wet their pants in excitement.
victorsskull	Date: May 5, 2010 @ 11:29 PM
GTOriginal	Date: May 6, 2010 @ 6:39 AM Hilarious! It was so funny I almost forgot the slimy little acts of petty theft that started this thread in the first place.
zedsalt	Date: May 6, 2010 @ 11:26 AM I hate to quibble semantics, but I think I've done enough of that here that it's pretty much expected of me now. Shouldn't the word "acts" be singular rather than plural? As in the sentence, "MusicPill is a slimy little act of petty theft"?
victorsskull	Date: May 6, 2010 @ 12:35 PM gt I told you I am looking into this. you make it very difficult for me to give a dam when you keep insulting us.
GTOriginal	Date: May 6, 2010 @ 4:23 PM This issue goes back five years. It was getting looked into six months ago. I am understandably pissed off about it. I will get off the warpath for a while, on the off chance that you really are going to try and do the right thing here, Mr. Skull. More on this as it develops.
victorsskull	Date: May 6, 2010 @ 5:18 PM how many CD's did you send musicpill Gary?
SimonWaldram	Date: May 6, 2010 @ 5:25 PM I sent 5 CDs to MusicPill last year. I haven't sold any as far as I know.
GTOriginal	Date: May 6, 2010 @ 5:57 PM I sent 15 in total. Three separate batches of five, as they were sold and requested. This took place at the end of 2005 and start of 2006. After that, a user DJEV told me she tried to buy one and was getting a sold out message, so I sent her my CD set at my own expense. It really isn't about profit for me, I just don't want to pay to give my tunes away. I set my price as low as the site would allow, six bucks.
victorsskull	Date: May 7, 2010 @ 11:32 AM I found the info Gary. check your notes.I would also like an apoligy for calling dmusic petty thieves.
GTOriginal	Date: May 7, 2010 @ 12:49 PM OK, I appreciate the effort involved and look forward to resolution of this issue. I apologize for calling this an act of petty theft.
GTOriginal	Date: May 12, 2010 @ 2:19 PM My issue is resolved. I am in receipt of my remaining CDs plus the payment for the rest. ~GT 5/12/2010
Distilled1	Date: May 12, 2010 @ 3:48 PM finally!
victorsskull	Date: May 12, 2010 @ 7:34 PM cool

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