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ashleighj	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:10 PM "This guy is worse than me." don't press your luck just yet......
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:11 PM ashleighj, straw-man fallacy again (in less words, and I thank you for that) milladrive, "So, now our journal/shoutbox features are being equated with pornography?" Pornographic material where children can be exposed to is not a feature in my book. If you want to equate it to a feature, that tells us something about you. "Isn't it nice to be able to control someone else's free expression?" I got the same crap from members in AW about this, but it wasn't be who controlled the deletion. In the end, the hosting provider agreed with me, and it was THEM that deleted the material. It wasn't just me. I never controlled anything beyond my own account/s with the hosting service. But they gave me that control, whereas DMusic doesn't. "Activeworlds could've very easily given you that control." well, you must not know much about AW. The hosting service does give me the control, AW is just like a browser in 3D form, any pic can be accessed. Again, the hosting service did give me control to remove posts. Ironically, I have recently gone back to them and that is where you see my shoutbox referenced from. "You can't very well do it yourself here at DMusic" We can, but we aren't allowed. "It's better to call a cop." Yes, in some instances I would prefer calling a cop. In this case, I don't want to go to a policeman in order to remove a post. "This is the stupidest thing you've posted yet, imo." ashleighj, 2 people now think that is faulty logic. And milla, yes it is stupid "Actually, some of us can, but we don't. I for one am quite tempted, tho. In fact, the next time you spam this forum with your website, I will edit the post." And disregard to play by your own rules tells us more about you.
TameasDust	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:12 PM oh in the case of freedom ... there are priviledges here ... given to all of us equally ... we enjoy them and like the features given to us ... for those of us who want more ... $$$ ... is the aim of more features ... but since you like to complain about anything that is given to you maybe you should have no features and have to pay for any feature ... now as for attacking fellow artists here .. that is a no no ... as in your opinion don't count in the long sceme of things ... they just show how much of a moron you are ...
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:15 PM TameasDust, I am not an artist signed up with DMusic I am editing the shoutbox at I can delete the shoutbox at for free Now let's look at you, You are an artist signed up with DMusic You aren't editing your shoutbox at http://tameasdust.dmusic.net/ You can't delete the shoutbox at http://tameasdust.dmusic.net/for free You aren't convincing me to want to be controlled. Sorry.
Gatherer	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:21 PM GCN, You_Are_Ridiculous! yooooooouuuuu aaaaaarrrre aaaaaalsoooo verrrrrry oooobbbbbnoooooooxiouuuuussss
KevBrock	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:23 PM I wonder how many more people will leave because of this argument.
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:24 PM Gatherer, Paying for something you can get elsewhere for free is rediculous?
ashleighj	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:24 PM what?!?! you think it's stupid to want a free 5-setting toaster from wal-mart?? you think they shouldn't have to give you one since your friend who lives too far away will?! how is that faulty logic? i used the same logic you did! c'mon! don't you want a free toaster! those bastards are trying to control you and shackle you, and you're telling me you don't care! i can't f'ing beleive this!!!!
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:27 PM ashleighj The difference is I am not that far away. is actually shorter than gcnmarcus.dmusic.net A more conceivable argument would be "Marcus, I can't get your page to load" Try working with that and see what you come up with.
TameasDust	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:32 PM NONE ... first I don't want to control my shoutbox ... second ... your a moron ... and my freedom is to not read my shoutbox ifffin i don't want to ... if others read it I let them have the freedom to make up their own minds about it ... I don't tell people I dont like what they said fore it is what their opinion is ... that i must respect ... now as for flaming artists on here that is something i have no respect for ...
KevBrock	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:32 PM LOL, first this was an argument about shoutboxes, now it's heading to something different. A 4 dollar subscription to this place is enough to buy yourself a Swimsuit magazine in the store.
ashleighj	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:33 PM that doesn't have anything to do with toasters! i think you're happy with the toaster you have and totally blind to the bondage it places you in! why do you allow yourself to be controlled by wal-mart's refusal to give you a free 5-setting toaster? don't you see the OBSTACLES??!!!
Cryxan	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:34 PM I think he'd rather get the toaster from WalMart because WalMart is a big name.
TameasDust	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:35 PM although this is probably just another point sceme to gain points ... sad that ... trying to be a point wh0re ... believe me there are better ones that this move ...
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:38 PM TameasDust, "I dont like what they said fore it is what their opinion is ... that i must respect" Then respect what I say too.
onewhodreams	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:41 PM Ashleigh - you rock! I'm totally going to Wal-Mart today I think our little gcnmarcus is just playing with us all at this point. He knows he will not get what he wants here, but I think he's enjoying or at least getting some sort of sick satisfaction with our responses to him.
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:41 PM TameasDust, It is not a point scheme, I am asking for something I can get free elsewhere here. If I didn't like DMusic for other reasons I would find a substitute site to ask for the same thing if it wasn't in place to begin with. Nothing more, nothing less. I seem to have landed on a community which is quick to judge, slow to think.
onewhodreams	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:43 PM "I seem to have landed on a community which is quick to judge, slow to think." No gcn, you've landed in a community that is happy with their shoutboxes. Nothing more, nothing less.
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:43 PM onewhodreams, I don't make anyone post responses to me. If you didn't want to be part of this, you had the option to not post. Same now, if you don't want to discuss it you are free to not post, and move on.
TameasDust	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:44 PM it si free over there it ain't here .. just part of life here ... we don't argue the point ... we just accept it ... like speed limits ... part of living ...
onewhodreams	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:51 PM It's all about freedom, eh?
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:52 PM TameasDust, And unfortunately some people just pay speeding tickets, putting others at risk not thinking of the consequences.
TameasDust	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 5:56 PM Cape town races are five miles long oh dah do dah day
KevBrock	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 6:16 PM No, people pay speeding for putting people like you at risk for thinking that you are not the owner of this site.
milladrive	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 6:25 PM "...DMusic reserves the right to remove without notice any Forum posting for any reason..." Those are our rules. ..and I even gave notice." id="77584">"And disregard to play by your own rules tells us more about you." "...DMusic reserves the right to remove without notice any Forum posting for any reason..." Those are our rules. ..and I even gave notice.
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 6:27 PM yes, I think I am not the owner of this site. For that I should get speeding tickets? I want whatever you are smoking bud.
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 6:30 PM milladrive, It's nice you feel you have to tell us what you already know you can do with or without our input before said page was even create, however, I don't see how that is relevant here assuming the forum is for discussion. But maybe you like deleting posts in a place intended for posts. Whatever floats your boat.
TameasDust	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 6:53 PM ooooooo when youm can't win by logic ... the personal attacks come out ... silly person .... people at DMusic LOVE their shoutbox ... for good or ill and when we do something stupid we at least get the chance to appologize for it in the shoutbox ... we ain't perfect but what they do over there ain't what they do here ... makes us different ... we don't want to be the same as other places ... we are DMusic ... we like it here cause we know that we can be total idiots at times and have it remind us for ever and a day till we laugh at ourselves .... DMusic is different ... if it was the same as other places ... what would be the point of DMusic anyway ... be different is the way of life ... or do you want everywhere to be the same ... ICK ICK ICK ... viva le difference
KevBrock	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:16 PM "yes, I think I am not the owner of this site. For that I should get speeding tickets?" Yep, your mind is like the traffic. You run your mouth just like the engine runs. And when you run your mouth, therefor your are speeding. So if you stop running your mouth, you wouldn't get a speeding ticket for thinking that you're the owner of this site. So I hope you understand my joke now.
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:28 PM "ooooooo when youm can't win by logic ... the personal attacks come out ... silly person ...." What attacks? As for the rest, I disregard what you say about other people, speak for yourself and let each other speak for themself as to what they like and what they don't. KevBrock, Ok, but where does the owner part come in? If we can say whatever we want, then I am saying whatever I want. Isn't that the argument for not allowing use control on our personal page, so we can be forced to that? If other people post we have no way to remove it if we simply don't want posts there, for good or bad reasons. Dmusic refuses respect the user, and in turn wants to think we will pay for it.
ashleighj	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:28 PM in other news, the pot called the kettle black earlier today. full report at 11.
ashleighj	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:44 PM awwwwwwwwwwww!! poor wittle baby!
gcnmarcus	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:45 PM Free speech free speech!!!
ashleighj	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:47 PM free speech? you don't even know what it is. pity.
Cryxan	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:50 PM Free speech does not include spamming the forums. Read the rules on the top of the forum page. Yes, more DMusic control. Run, run before we take your first-born!
Gatherer	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:54 PM gee...if you had subscribed you could have spammed ALL the forums. too bad...
MickeyBreezy	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 7:58 PM nice gatherer
Thaspian	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 8:05 PM This thread is, so ridicoulous... I'm chuckling as I read it. You're, most probably the guy, that if someone says hey to you at work, walks away. You can't control what shows up in your shoutbox... what the fuck? It's a form of communication. It's that fucking simple... if you must control all forms of communication you use, even if there is no abuse going on, there's a problem. It's merely a way to talk to other artists at the site. Do you have a problem with communication? Do you have a problem with people talking to you? You speak of free speech, yet have a problem with speech in the first place. The community is half the fun here. Who're you to say it should go if you can't control it? Leave, if it sucks so much.. In closing, wetcircle.com beats the SHIT out of your supposedly "free" pr0n site.
KevBrock	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 8:08 PM Just ignore this guy, he's just asking for trouble. There are no admins on right now, so he went on being a tough guy spamming all of the other threads in the forums. milla will be gcn's best friend.
MickeyBreezy	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 8:12 PM gcn thought he wouldnt get deleted
Thaspian	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 8:17 PM kev... admins are things of the past. Little gerbils in wheels delete what they dislike nowadays.
woodhead	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 8:20 PM man all this over a shout box, I cant believe this thread is still going, hey milla looks like another full moon tonite
KevBrock	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 8:22 PM LOL @ woodhead. There's been so much crap since Jennae left. Jennae for admin!!! She'd be a good one.
MickeyBreezy	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 8:23 PM she'd delete u 4 the hell of it kev....J/K
Slurgi	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 9:26 PM gcnmarcus - I think its time to give up :-/
TameasDust	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 9:56 PM give up nahhhhhhhhhhh we have to torture gnc some more
woodhead	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 10:13 PM STILL!!!!
EvilAdam	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 1:26 AM I'm guessing this is all over and done with, and if not, some moron really needs to be taken out of his misery, and removed from the gene pool. I'll give you one good guess who that is, and its not me! =) Anyhow, I love having the shoutbox, and I don't care about not being able to delete something from it. It's good to have, and an interesting idea to boot. So far no one has spammed at all in my shoutbox, and sometimes people leave nice comments about the music and other things for me in there. If you don't want to hear anything from anyone about the music and what not, why the hell even join a website like this? Some people are just confusing themselves and bringing others into the mix. That is completely unfair. Some of us rational people are in no way shape or form trying to get sucked into the enormous "idiot black hole" that a discussion like this would swallow us into. Thank you DMUSIC, for existing! Long live the shoutbox! Long live the whisperbox! Long live the screambox! Long live the whimperbox! Long live the guffawbox! I want all voice/vocal/boxes ever! We need more options to say stuff and read stuff from! Someone, spam me quick! I'm excited and in the mood for a message in my shoutbox lol In fact, all the people that were scared away from gcnmarcus' shout box, you are more than welcome to come check mine out. I'm sure you'll like it lol
johnnygnote	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 3:44 AM
Cryxan	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 3:49 AM lol, Johnny.
redrasta	Date: January 6, 2004 @ 12:05 AM Ash...Pot, Kettle, Black.....dieslaughing Kev...got any mirrors in your house?
redrasta	Date: January 6, 2004 @ 12:20 AM Just a small point, but I like the fact we cant mess with our shoutboxes...everything said stays there for all to see, which means SHOULD there ever be any problems with say, another user being rude or in some way offensive, then it is there in its entirety, unedited and in context. None of that snide, cloak and dagger nastiness. I also think that (and hows THIS for a cross-link?)the shoutboxes are a great indication of what others really think of their music....unlike when people give a thumbs-down and dont say why when streaming(or not) someone's songs. Me likee shoutyboxee.
sepidman	Date: January 6, 2004 @ 1:11 AM I've got a box of cookies!! I SAID I"VE GOT A BOX OF FREAKING COOKIES!! Opps, sorry for shouting........
redrasta	Date: January 11, 2004 @ 11:24 PM sepid
Svensta	Date: January 11, 2004 @ 11:33 PM Thasp, keep talking about the gerbils and I will sic them on you. Badgerbadgerbadger, my ass

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