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milladrive	Date: March 6, 2002 @ 8:51 PM anyone have any thoughts about ie6 as compared to ie5.5? i still haven't gone to 6 yet and i have no clue as to why.
draugluin	Date: March 6, 2002 @ 8:53 PM hmm...I have no choice but to when i installed WINXP, but the only diffrence i see is the forced appeal by winXP, but if you switch it back to standard visual mode, well its looks the same as IE5.5, there mgiht be extra stability issues fixed in 6.0, and maybe some bugs were fixed, but as far as i can tell...no diffrence i can see or that affects my browsing.
Frawgster	Date: March 6, 2002 @ 9:24 PM i downloaded ie 6 a while back...when it was in beta...before i started using opera...and i didnt really notice much of a difference. i do know that one new little convenient feature ie6 has is the ability to auto-resize pics. for example, if youre viewing a pic thats say 1024x768 and your screen resolution is 800x600, ie will automatically resize it for you. now whether that feature works well or not, i dont know, cause well, i dont use ie and my res. is high enough (1280x1024) so i dont have to worry much about pics being too small. btw...opera kicks the llamas ass
Fozzie	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 12:02 AM same to me
Cryxan	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 12:02 AM Micro$oft products slow your machine and make huge security holes in your system. Use Opera! I's a far, far superior product.
backmann	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 12:10 AM I donwloaded it some time ago and it's exactly the same thing. I think it is more attached to WMP and MSN messanger, no further changes noticed.
pog	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 1:28 AM I think v6 caches pagez a bit betterer...
milladrive	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 10:04 AM thanx much everybody.
draugluin	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 3:43 PM I rather use IE6, cause not all websites are compatible with Opera..and it distorts the shizznit out of some.
princess-angry	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 7:08 PM IE 5.5 owns!!!!! I love it, never has crashed all but some of those bogged down sites... but that's the site desiners fault...they should not do that...... and the intergration with microsoft products is flawless!!! word ca run inside IE5.5 if you want it too... I'vve masterd it. I also noticed word can really make cool webpages....
Frawgster	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 7:12 PM ms word is my mortal enemy. the shit has a mind of its own! ill stick to notepad
milladrive	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 10:16 PM hahaha. word problems, frawg? hehe. ..i should be a word hds.
Junkman	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 10:57 PM I do tech support for windows/ie and let me tell you STICK With 5.5. 6 can just screw your system over!
Cryxan	Date: March 7, 2002 @ 11:06 PM Examples?" IE uses more RAM, especially when you have multiple windows open. When you get an "illegal operation" and have to close, a random number of windows disappear. (Especially with Win 98.) This is highly annoying. As for the security holes, there have been several times that MS has had to issue patches to cover their programming screwups (which they did reluctantly.) Really sucks for the people that don't know enough to update their software. Yeah, Opera occasionally can't get into some sites, so I keep IE as a backup." id="4538">"'Micro$oft products slow your machine and make huge security holes in your system.' Examples?" IE uses more RAM, especially when you have multiple windows open. When you get an "illegal operation" and have to close, a random number of windows disappear. (Especially with Win 98.) This is highly annoying. As for the security holes, there have been several times that MS has had to issue patches to cover their programming screwups (which they did reluctantly.) Really sucks for the people that don't know enough to update their software. Yeah, Opera occasionally can't get into some sites, so I keep IE as a backup.
Fletch	Date: March 8, 2002 @ 12:16 PM ie6 has a complete CSS1 implementation. ie5.5's was still partially unimplemented and/or "quirky." that's the only reason i use 6.
milladrive	Date: March 8, 2002 @ 2:37 PM hmmm, such mixed sentiments. one guy who knows his stuff says it's okay to upgrade, while another guy who knows his stuff says don't do it. (...while another guy who knows his stuff think i should change my browser altogether. heh) ......i'm sso conFUSED
princess-angry	Date: March 8, 2002 @ 4:17 PM IE5.5 owns and that's all there is too it!!!!!
draugluin	Date: March 8, 2002 @ 4:21 PM IE6 0wnz!!!!!! NETSCAPE 0WNZ ALL!!!!!!! (joke) pun intended....dont kill me...please
milladrive	Date: March 8, 2002 @ 4:24 PM lol
Cryxan	Date: March 9, 2002 @ 1:23 AM NO! OPERA FOREVER!!!
draugluin	Date: March 9, 2002 @ 1:23 PM YES WOO OPERA THE WIDELY UNSUPPORTED BROWSER!! WOOO...JUST AS KEEN AS NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR WOO!!! YEA! IE OWNZ...
richieZ	Date: March 9, 2002 @ 1:26 PM i like ie6
princess-angry	Date: March 9, 2002 @ 6:36 PM IE 5.5 owns all browsers!!!!
pressf8	Date: March 9, 2002 @ 7:10 PM If you knew your stuff you'd know this has to do with program instances and you'd know how to fix it... No problems with IE at all (I'm using 6 in XP--have used all other versions as well). Opera's a wanna be browser, and netscape just all around sucks. Some people just love to hate MS, but the fact is that they do make the best browser. Most stable, most options, best compatibility, best interpretation of HTML and CSS, and is far faster (probably due to windows caching) that everyone else..." id="4716">"IE uses more RAM, especially when you have multiple windows open. When you get an "illegal operation" and have to close, a random number of windows disappear. (Especially with Win 98.) This is highly annoying." If you knew your stuff you'd know this has to do with program instances and you'd know how to fix it... No problems with IE at all (I'm using 6 in XP--have used all other versions as well). Opera's a wanna be browser, and netscape just all around sucks. Some people just love to hate MS, but the fact is that they do make the best browser. Most stable, most options, best compatibility, best interpretation of HTML and CSS, and is far faster (probably due to windows caching) that everyone else...
draugluin	Date: March 10, 2002 @ 12:11 AM -claps for pressf8- Finally a guy who knows his Shizznit IE 0WNZ.
Cryxan	Date: March 10, 2002 @ 12:33 AM Saying IE wins the browser war because of its popularity with consumers is like saying the Taliban came to power because of its popularity with women. Can you say Monopoly?
pressf8	Date: March 10, 2002 @ 1:42 AM Browsers that are consistently buggy on all platforms and frequently have problems displaying pages do not get used by 80% of all web surfers. Monopoly has nothing to do with it--Netscape's free--why isn't everyone using it? And how would you get it if you didn't have IE?
weaponzero	Date: March 10, 2002 @ 3:26 PM ie4 for me.
pog	Date: March 10, 2002 @ 10:36 PM I agree with F8... What ppl don't realize is that If you update from win95 to 98, and then 98 to ME, and update explorer from 4 to 5, to 6... or whatever, They will never get to experience the product at it's full potential. What Im saying is IE6 on a fresh install, outweighs the power of any browser on a buggy, glitchy system that hasn't been looked after correctly. Often errors themselves (hangs/crashes) can corrupt the windows registry beyond repair.
backmann	Date: March 10, 2002 @ 11:59 PM I was using Netscape, which used to be better than IE, until Netscape 6 was released. That's when I started using IE.
Cryxan	Date: March 11, 2002 @ 9:29 PM I don't trust Netscape now that it's owned by AOL. AOL is going to start using Nescape to record the URLs you type in, as well as keywords you enter into search fields, among other things. Of course, they swear that it's anonymous, and it's only used to provide you with targeted advertising. Yeah. Sure. If I find the article, I'll post the link.
Cryxan	Date: March 11, 2002 @ 9:34 PM On the monopoly thing... The whole point of releasing Win98 Special Edition was because the original Win98 came bundled with IE, and IE could not be uninstalled without damaging your system. After a lawsuit, M$ released Win98 SE, which came without IE.
richieZ	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 6:26 PM monopoly or good busines?? bill gates has a history of being at the right place at the right time is all. cant blame a man for that. we can sit back and be jealous and talk all the smack we want though. heh.
richieZ	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 6:28 PM and win98 SECOND edition had just as much of a problem without IE as every other OS. in fact, its shell enhancements were even more so dependant on IE. really the only difference between 98 and 98se was 98 came with ie4 and 98se came with ie5
princess-angry	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 6:43 PM IE 5.5 owns and that's all there is too it!!
richieZ	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 6:51 PM ie 5.5 service pack 2 owns. i will say that
richieZ	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 6:51 PM heh
princess-angry	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 7:03 PM I got the SP3 installed by dell
pog	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 7:40 PM Mozilla.org browser will be released on windows. I saw it on debian (linux), and It seems to kick everythings ass. But until then, I'll stick with IE6. It's a tad better now you can customize yer toolbars these days." id="4950">One day, I hope the Mozilla.org browser will be released on windows. I saw it on debian (linux), and It seems to kick everythings ass. But until then, I'll stick with IE6. It's a tad better now you can customize yer toolbars these days.
draugluin	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 7:41 PM w00t @ IE 6.0
princess-angry	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 8:12 PM IE 5.5 is still the best by far!!!
draugluin	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 8:20 PM boo!!! IE 6.0!!
princess-angry	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 8:34 PM I tried IE6 today and it is cool, but I can't upgrade by DL after I got the dell service pack....
draugluin	Date: March 12, 2002 @ 8:40 PM blah...Dell's suckie.. Build j00 0wn
pressf8	Date: March 13, 2002 @ 12:51 AM heck ya--I'm building them all from now on...
milladrive	Date: March 13, 2002 @ 7:27 AM Dell... I'm sorry.
Cryxan	Date: March 14, 2002 @ 2:23 AM http://www.theregus.com/content/23/24275.html Article about AOL's plans to stop using IE as default browser and moving to Mozilla, and their reasons why." id="5207"> http://www.theregus.com/content/23/24275.html Article about AOL's plans to stop using IE as default browser and moving to Mozilla, and their reasons why.
Cryxan	Date: March 14, 2002 @ 3:57 AM http://www.theregus.com/content/4/24207.html Another one on IE/WIN being integrated as one unit, and M$ lying about the reasons." id="5215"> http://www.theregus.com/content/4/24207.html Another one on IE/WIN being integrated as one unit, and M$ lying about the reasons.
draugluin	Date: March 14, 2002 @ 11:44 AM ....Mozilla...sure its great...but the loading time on a 400Mhz machine...it blows ass. IE, -double click- pop surf w00t! Mozilla -double click- load load...hey we are still loading....hey fuck you i like to load....oh ok we are done....opps...haha got you! no we arent! Sorry but...IE is best overall..Most webdesigners use what to preview their sites once they upload...IE, webdesigners design for what browser? IE...and why is that...Its preferred by consumers moreover everyday internet users. I'll sacrifice the dislikes of Microsoft in which everyone has for user friendlyness and compatibility. MS has the Internet Browsing world beat with IE.
princess-angry	Date: March 14, 2002 @ 4:12 PM IE rules!!!
draugluin	Date: March 14, 2002 @ 5:46 PM -nods- IE 0wnz
inertia	Date: March 14, 2002 @ 6:06 PM Net Installer (214 KB) Full Installer ((9.8 MB)) http://mozilla.org/releases I've been using mozilla since 0.9.6 and it's one damn wicked browser. And draugluin, enabling 'quick start' takes most of the load time out if you have the ram to spare. Getting a mozilla window is pretty much as fast as an ie window with quickstart enabled. Really the thing that hooked me on mozilla was 'tabbed browsing'. It's all about tabbed browsing. " id="5256">It's all about mozilla. Pog, mozilla has been out on Win32 for... ever... Net Installer (214 KB) Full Installer ((9.8 MB)) http://mozilla.org/releases I've been using mozilla since 0.9.6 and it's one damn wicked browser. And draugluin, enabling 'quick start' takes most of the load time out if you have the ram to spare. Getting a mozilla window is pretty much as fast as an ie window with quickstart enabled. Really the thing that hooked me on mozilla was 'tabbed browsing'. It's all about tabbed browsing.
draugluin	Date: March 14, 2002 @ 7:41 PM blah out of 96MB of ram on a laptop, it still wasn't enough to load the stupid browser, so I am sticking with IE...Compatibility over accessability.
pog	Date: March 14, 2002 @ 10:30 PM Whoah... you're telling me they port things back the other way... wow. In that case... IE's toast ! I saw this one browser that was really cool called Chameleon (I stumbled upon it in a sex site... purely accidental of course), and that featured tabbed browsing, and this really cool popup killer. Didn't get updated much as far as I know.
Cryxan	Date: March 15, 2002 @ 5:36 PM Opera uses tabs too, that's what first caught my attention about. Fell in love with it shortly thereafter.
smelv1n	Date: March 23, 2002 @ 3:18 PM meh, i just upgraded to IE6 today. I got no problems with ms, and their xbox is pretty fucking fun. and like draug said, loading time pisses me off
princess-angry	Date: March 23, 2002 @ 4:10 PM IE5.5 still owns em all!!!
Cryxan	Date: March 23, 2002 @ 9:47 PM Heh. XBox has it's own Blue Screen Of Death...it's GREEN!
entro	Date: March 24, 2002 @ 1:28 PM IE rocks mozilla on this completely. A broken page will render on IE while often times it will be illegible on mozilla/ns/opera. We live in the real world, and in the real world, most people are not liquid design gods who speak css/xhtml in their sleep. The majority of sites out there are coded wrong. FrontPage and Dreamweaver format pages wrong (simple fact). IE5.5 vs IE6? I wouldn't suggest any windows product until the first or second patch is out. 5.5 vs 6 isn't so big a deal. More important - get the flash6 plugin upgrade :) If you doubt any of the info in this post, check out http://www.alistapart.com or zeldman's webstandards project. I believe the changes from IE5.5 to 6 are mostly in xml, minor css updates, and security. [All browsers have security holes, just people find ones in IE more because more people can be reached through it - IE has better security than ns, just most crackers target it] IE over Mozilla Over Netscape." id="6277">hehe this is funny Load times - trick question. IE = windows (hence lawsuit) while mozilla/ns/opera are generally independant of the operating system. Memory - same thing. IE on a mac has worse mem usage then ns, but on windows, the figure is skewed [whole OS thing again]. Rendering - Read: css support, bad code handling. Mozilla [and netscape, which is a shitty gui and useless "features" tacked onto it] has pretty good css support. IE does too. Neither FULLY support css1. Except css2 has been out for awhile, which is pathetic. Both have bugs in css support and tons instances where specifications are left out completely. So then we get to the ability for reading bad code or interpretating unknown code. IE rocks mozilla on this completely. A broken page will render on IE while often times it will be illegible on mozilla/ns/opera. We live in the real world, and in the real world, most people are not liquid design gods who speak css/xhtml in their sleep. The majority of sites out there are coded wrong. FrontPage and Dreamweaver format pages wrong (simple fact). IE5.5 vs IE6? I wouldn't suggest any windows product until the first or second patch is out. 5.5 vs 6 isn't so big a deal. More important - get the flash6 plugin upgrade If you doubt any of the info in this post, check out http://www.alistapart.com or zeldman's webstandards project. I believe the changes from IE5.5 to 6 are mostly in xml, minor css updates, and security. [All browsers have security holes, just people find ones in IE more because more people can be reached through it - IE has better security than ns, just most crackers target it] IE over Mozilla Over Netscape.
milladrive	Date: March 25, 2002 @ 5:45 PM Big big thanx, entro. I think i'm gonna go for it; it's been out a while now.

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