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Will the RIAA win?

dicktruth	Date: July 21, 2004 @ 5:16 AM Do you think the RIAA will achieve what it wants and completely stop all P2P sharing? If so, how long do you think it'll be?
Svensta	Date: July 21, 2004 @ 8:06 AM Doesn't seem technologically feasible, as it stands. The only way they can do so would be to work with hardware manufacturers to embed DRM and that Trusted Computing shit into all new hardware. Which means a good 6 years for majority buy-in. By then, we should have software solutions to those problems
pog	Date: July 21, 2004 @ 9:22 AM Whats interesting is for every 1 employee that the riaa pays to come up with new ideas to secure their monopoly, (much to my disgust, using the artist's money to fund it) there's 50 competent people working on a way to get around it... sometimes, it only takes a yound lad with a black marker pen ! It's comparable to a politician getting the laws on their side to outlaw freedom of speech... both parties are innocent, and guilty at the same time. I think it may get really messy for those that don't stay current with the developments on both sides of the argument.
robbydadrummer	Date: July 22, 2004 @ 1:13 PM There will always be hackers able to get around anything, so filesharing is simply a fact of life from here on out. Even if not on P2P, every IM service has the file transferring ability and sites have been set up for users to commuciate with each other to locate and trade. There is a way around everything.
peatrap	Date: September 7, 2004 @ 5:11 PM The RIAA has already lost, we the true americans pirates and rebels, have a better view of who they are and how they react, so in kind we will stay miles ahead of their feebile attempt to capitalize on their monopy.The public servants have showed their colors, now we know who they represent. They have created a army of haters and have added fuel to the fire of progress and evolution of the enternet.
the-erm	Date: October 22, 2004 @ 4:57 PM It's a toss up, Really. RIAA has more: 1. money 2. media control 3. lobbying congress 4. contributions to political parties. We have more: 1. people. More people really do make up for the other 4. Because let's be honest. You don't get our vote, you don't get in office.
0Hz	Date: October 22, 2004 @ 7:30 PM Do you think the RIAA will achieve what it wants and completely stop all P2P sharing? If so, how long do you think it'll be? Who says thats what the RIAA objectives are. Put yourself in their shoes, they have control over the major marketing tool (ie popular radio). They market their music over they airwaves that they pay for (and invest heavley in). P2P comes along and changes the business model so they try to stop it. Of course its futile but its the only way they know how to protect the business that they are in. What they do not wish to deal with is the absolute way that internet and broadband technology has changed how people get their music. So they wil try to tell people that they are pirates and what they do on P2P is ciminally/illegal, so go back to radio and buy the music from our stores. Pandora is already out of the box and its not possible to put the lid back on. In answer to the first question.. of course not, P2P was her long before the internet and will always be here one way or another. How long will it be before P2P is shut down ? never not so long as people share the things that they love.
kyodylee	Date: October 22, 2004 @ 10:33 PM 21 gigs and counting ... nah, i don't think so ...
TameasDust	Date: October 23, 2004 @ 12:51 AM they have already won .. they just don't know it yet
Zapatique	Date: July 19, 2005 @ 8:53 AM "We have more: 1. people." That's true. It's quite useless to fight such a huge mass of people willing to share. In addition, any software capable of file transfering can be made into a filesharing program. Take, for example, BitTorrent which was planned to transfer new versions of Linux to other Linux users. Now we download music, movies, anime (ew), porn, software etc. via BitTorrent. There's no stopping us!
Svensta	Date: July 19, 2005 @ 9:07 AM Let's think about that for a moment. Free porn is even BIGGER on p2p and the internet than free music is, and yet porn is STILL a 6 billion dollar annual business. Doesn't seem to be hurting their business model much.
Alecs	Date: July 19, 2005 @ 3:35 PM 6 billion? psht Ice Cream is 98 billion It's a toss up to me, but I guess porn just can never measure up to Ice Cream in the eyes of the public...
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 20, 2005 @ 2:44 PM music, pr0n, ice-cream. theres plenty of varieties to fit plenty of tastes and there will ALWAYS be plenty of it no matter WHAT! personally, im thinking of ditching the music business and heading to that $6bn industry unless i master the art of ice-cream making
Alecs	Date: October 12, 2005 @ 10:16 PM chillin, y not master both?
azhazhellfire	Date: October 14, 2005 @ 3:27 AM There's no doubt that piracy will never be wiped out completely. The question is will they be able to wipe out 90-95% of them with fear (essentially giving them the victory)? The word is out, and the hundreds of millions of computer illiterate morons using kazaa lite are getting scared by the rumoured prospect of being sued for half their life savings. Sure, we in the know know that only the uploaders get sued, but they don't. And contrary to what you may believe, they are a vital to the prosperity of our crusade.
zedsalt	Date: October 14, 2005 @ 12:37 PM In the unlikely event that they ever made even a small dent in P2P, they'd soon find out that P2P was NOT the problem. Record sales aren't down; major label record sales are down.
GeneHilbert	Date: October 14, 2005 @ 12:54 PM never happen.....
Alecs	Date: October 16, 2005 @ 10:41 AM you can't kill an ideal
GreatGooglyM...	Date: October 19, 2005 @ 3:54 AM No, I think it's quite impossible.
thesoloer	Date: June 17, 2006 @ 1:28 PM the industry will try to make it happen... but it wont.
Fraser	Date: June 17, 2006 @ 10:51 PM Not in Canada! Bwahahahahaha!
thesoloer	Date: June 17, 2006 @ 10:56 PM you cant stop what has already started.
kingo	Date: June 17, 2006 @ 11:03 PM You are a true something." id="227179">Once again, Jacob -- you've managed to say something that I just can't imagine why everybody doesn't just say all the time. "you can't stop what has already started." You are a true something.
thesoloer	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 2:06 PM it wont happen kingo what I was basically saying in the most simplest form was that technology wont catch up. The technology will not be stable enough if it tries to delete all of the songs if it does what the RIAA wants it to do it will malfunction. We wont have the technology to do that in like IMO in like twenty years or so.
shadowself	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 3:05 PM Thanks for making it all clear to me, thesoloer.
JamesThomson	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 3:09 PM soz to sounds really naive but who is the RIAA?
kingo	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 4:25 PM - Lord Concrete Bison" id="227280"> "I may not agree with everything thesoloer says, or even be absolutely certain that he's saying something, or that in fact he exists at all outside the confines of this esoteric corner I've constructed for myself, but I'll fight to the... until somebody starts hitting... to defend his right to say it." - Lord Concrete Bison
thesoloer	Date: June 18, 2006 @ 11:06 PM thank you kingo... I really dont know how to talk about that but since it's real it means a lot to me. I dont know how I can exactly repay you for posting that comment here on dmusic, but I thank you for being honest...
Svensta	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 8:59 AM This is the new hobby, it seems. Anyway, to the point, its been about two years since the thread started. The status report: Still locating and suing people, some DRM technologies (iTunes) are gaining a foothold. Piracy still rules the day.
thesoloer	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 1:04 PM They are doing better but the technologies arent that great.
JamesThomson	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 2:35 PM WHO IS THA RIAA?
ShadowMom	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 2:54 PM Recording Industry Association of America. See Boycott-RIAA for details... please.
ShadowMom	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 3:18 PM Here's a good article for starters .... http://news.dmusic.com/article/20334
shadowself	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 5:02 PM Another new site you can try before getting all pissed off, James: http://www.google.com It's your friend.
thesoloer	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 6:13 PM yea... google helps.
shadowself	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 10:38 PM Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Ed McMahon! YES SIRRR!
JamesThomson	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 11:43 AM thankyou shadowmom
TLK	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 9:59 PM It amazes me how people are raised with the understanding that sharing is a good thing...then when we do, we get are asses busted for it.
Woof	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 10:26 PM That's corporate culture for ya... they own our identity, and want us to pay rent on it. And people wonder why the indie movement perseveres...
plungerboy	Date: September 9, 2006 @ 8:00 AM They will win, and then people will say : "Fuck this shit, lets get free stuff" Excuse the language
ShadowMom	Date: September 9, 2006 @ 2:42 PM Plungerboy, if the RIAA wins... you lose. As an independent artist, if they are allowed to control content on the internet--do you think they will let you put up music for sharing? Not in this life... but they will not win.