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RIAA sueing P2P Users?

ChillinBuzz	Date: July 17, 2002 @ 11:50 AM Flyster will swat those nasty RIAA insects!!!
Svensta	Date: July 17, 2002 @ 12:01 PM MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
RyanS	Date: July 18, 2002 @ 3:15 AM yeah, muahahahahahaha (cough cough).. damn I need to quit smokin'... heh
Svensta	Date: July 18, 2002 @ 8:43 AM Well, remember, he's NOT p2p, even though he MENTIONS p2p quite a bit... Anyways, we have been hearing about their THREATS to sue us on an individual basis, my question to you all is: What do you do if you go to you mailbox this morning, and there's a letter from your ISP in there about them listing you as a pirate?
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 18, 2002 @ 12:41 PM http://news.com.com/2100-1023-944668.html " id="13083">Put on an eye patch and take a sword to anyone who comes through the door. Arrrrr!!! We, the 'little people', slapped the faces of the MPAA (metaphorically, unfortunately) - http://news.com.com/2100-1023-944668.html
Svensta	Date: July 18, 2002 @ 1:27 PM seems like it's not really a solution though. More like just dodging the buck until the powers that be drop a legal hammer on you. That news story is scary in that all the lobbyists are clamoring for governmental input and regulation. If there are many more of these roundtables, some laws are going to get passed I think.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 18, 2002 @ 3:03 PM Oh yes, but before this article how much public input was there? and how much of that was public? Time to make people see the other side of the coin. It's an issue that should go all the way to the top as nobody else has sorted things. Of course, if the governments mess it up....
smelv1n	Date: July 18, 2002 @ 9:18 PM no no, see cause when they give them money to pass laws in their favour, they aren't BRIBING them, no no, they're just...wait a second, they're giving them piles of money to pass laws in their favour, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?? hehehe, i never understood why corporations can "lobby" congress...i understand why it's around and stuff, but i still think its dumb
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 18, 2002 @ 9:21 PM They can buy all the laws in the land smelv and it will never stop us.
mtbatol	Date: July 18, 2002 @ 10:59 PM What the RIAA is gonna gain by suing my ass: 5 books of old food stamps which is of course no good since people are using cards instead, just keep them for the old memories of back when me and moms was broke 4 thousand basketball/baseball/football cards which includes rookie cards of Shaq, Iverson, Sammy Sosa, Griffey, and McNabb (the rest is crappy ) 3 bucks in my checking account 2 bags of fritoes AND A PARTRAGE IN A PAIR TREE!! (they ain't gettin pc system, i'll give it away to a nearby crackhead before I let those idiots touch it )
fenz4rt	Date: July 19, 2002 @ 1:32 PM P2P = KaZaa ???
Svensta	Date: July 21, 2002 @ 6:56 PM I wish someone would explain to the Association, that p2p is not piracy, PIRACY is piracy. p2p is a technology that leads to sharing of more than just computer files. It's the possible basis for a new kind of community. Cars kill people, and you don't blame the GOOD drivers, or the car-makers. Someone needs to explain this to them.
ChillinBuzz	Date: July 21, 2002 @ 7:02 PM They don't blame the good drivers, they just make them pay more to cover the bad drivers. That's what'll happen here - the prices will rise again. Vicious circle, only one sure way to break it.
Svensta	Date: July 22, 2002 @ 9:08 AM Good point, insurance carriers are gouging too at times. The point being that these providers supply a legal necessity. I mean to say that the Association targetting all p2p sharing models is akin to the family of a shooting victim, suing Smith-Wesson, or a traffic accident victim suing Ford. It's just not logical
mtbatol	Date: July 22, 2002 @ 6:57 PM yes i shall listen to me birdy and make you walk de plank for goin after me bootie, then i'll get rosen since she smells funny :P" id="13448">arrrrrrrgh!! no!!! based on what hilary says youuuure a pirrrrrate after me gold!!! but none of you skalleywags will get me gold!!! arrrrrrrrrrrrgh right polley?? "aaaaaaark!! peer 2 peer pirate, peer 2 peer pirate!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark!! make em walk da plank.. MAKE EM WALK DA PLANK!! AAAAAAAAAAARK!!" yes i shall listen to me birdy and make you walk de plank for goin after me bootie, then i'll get rosen since she smells funny
Svensta	Date: July 22, 2002 @ 8:28 PM heh Hilary wants Batty's booty That's just wrong
mtbatol	Date: July 22, 2002 @ 9:06 PM Yeah she wants me boo... damn i was talkin about treasure... the way Svensta said it, I'm scared that she really do want me bootylicious booty . That just isn't right, eeeelp me.. she'll crush me!!!
HappyPeople84	Date: July 28, 2002 @ 6:38 PM they say that they are losing money because we are 'stealing' artist music & are callin us 'theives' but if they are losing so much money then why when u see MTV Cribs are they all in big mansions & got like 5 or 6 cars etc etc etc & the ppl at the RIAA are just the same?? that just dont make any sence & why if they are losing so much money waste more money suein P2P programs knowin that they will never win or close them down. i mean look when they closed napster wot happend?? about 3 or 4 more popped up... they cant win & will never win. & as for sueing indivudals thats just aload of BS again wastin more money that they supposidly dont have & the fact that there are millions & millions of p2p users on the internet. I know that they have only sued one or 2 indivudals because of this. & yes I think that internet artist can/should have the right to sue the RIAA coz now that they have closed Audiogalaxy there are alot of artist on their that are now finding it hard to get promoted & find it hard to be heard by such a wide number of people so therefore the RIAA have stopped these ppl from earning money & getting gigs so they should be sued for loss of earnings or somethin like that u know what im getting at??? anyway again just my 2cents.... PLUR! sMiLeZ
HappyPeople84	Date: July 28, 2002 @ 8:39 PM www.afternapster.com" id="14019">if any1 wants to find a P2P or wants a new one for whatever reason check this site out www.afternapster.com
goldenpi	Date: August 3, 2002 @ 10:53 AM Because if you sue a few users it scares a lot more off They wouldn't need to actually sue anyone through. A complaint to the ISP will usually discourage people quite enough. They just have to get a bot running to find anyone sharing a lot, grab an index and report it to the ISP. The bos are usually set a bit paranoid through, so they get a lot of false positives. Like the time the MPAAs bot accused someone of copyright violation for hosting a copy of DeCSS .
ffffff	Date: August 14, 2002 @ 7:58 PM let's review the following concepts: - bootlegging = let's say i go see my fav group recorder in hand. hey, after all they're great musicians and i wanna learn. if i record them and take the recording home for my own use or sharing it (remember: SHARING IT) with someone it should be ok. if i'm selling it - only THEN it's bootlegging, as i'm making money out of something that does not belong to me. - pirating = the classic pirating example is someone making exact copies of released recordings and SELLING them for cheaper or as unreleased recordings. this is common in asian / latinamerican countries. i've seen the odd whitney's cd in the rising sun label. also pirating is to call up musicians to exactly duplicate an original recording, and then release the product and SELL it as the original. the worst case i saw of this was a quadruple vinyl album (yes, quadruple, in a green box) of a bee gees sgt pepper soundtrack. junk anyways... SHARING IS NOT PIRATING AT ALL. - p2p sharing = in sharing there's no money crossing at all. no one should be offended. in fact sharing in audiogalaxy allowed for rare and obscure tracks to be heard & to be rescued for posterity. i was blown away when i saw in audiogalaxy a 1954 mantovani recording that never made it to cd. i remember the old vinyl in my dad's collection when i was a kid. whoever put that song in audiogalaxy rescued the tune from oblivion to posterity. SHARING IS NOT SELLING!! i do agree w happypeople84. check my post on hilary rosen must die. that AFM is a fuckup institution along with the RIAA. all those "artists" they live the luxury life as proved in their concert rider contracts. and the RIAA saying that we're "stealing" from them"? FUCK!
Zahal	Date: August 28, 2002 @ 3:10 AM i can't say this enough we aren't selling jack shit we are not committing any bigger crime than the kid tapeing songs from the local fm. btw i know kids who wast cds on tapeing hallam fm and such snot that by in large belongs in the skip human decentcy with my putrid spelling p2p is a protected form of expression. everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interferance and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through ANY MEDIA and regardless of frontiers
dogpile	Date: September 4, 2002 @ 5:04 AM How about this? RIAA sues P2P users, P2P users sue RIAA for emotional distress.
Svensta	Date: September 4, 2002 @ 8:42 AM Remember, the law they are pushing will enable them to attack you and make it legally impossible for you to counter them with litigation, that's why this legal bill is so horrendous and must be voted down.
GrooveTonic	Date: September 4, 2002 @ 10:45 AM they'll run out of money first! hehe
draugluin	Date: September 4, 2002 @ 8:55 PM majority over the minority, and we have sovereignty, so its our decision what happens to us technically, and the RIAA just so happens to be the minority, so the more of us that say the RIAA is bad, the less of us they can hold charges against. we will prevail int he long run, thats why the RIAA hasn't done anything as of this moment.

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