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wlfhcommishjava	Date: August 7, 2003 @ 4:40 AM www.stoppoliceware.com WHAT IS THE CBDTPA? The CBDTPA is a bill (S. 2048) proposed in Congress by Senators Fritz Hollings (D-SC) and Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), along with Senators Daniel Inouye (D-HI), John Breaux (D-LA), Bill Nelson (D-FL), and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). The acronym stands for "Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act". Note that the CBDTPA was originally known as the "SSSCA" while in draft form. WHAT WOULD THIS LAW DO? The law would force all new personal computers and digital home entertainment devices sold in the United States to have government-approved "policeware" built-in. This policeware would restrict your use of copyrighted material on these devices -- including music files and CD's, video clips, DVD's, e-books, and more. WHO COULD GO TO JAIL? You, if you're one of the millions of Americans who uses your computers to burn music CD's, listen to MP3's, share video files, etc. You'd face up to five years in federal prison and a $500,000 fine. Think you'd be able to get around the law by removing the policeware from your personal computer? Think again -- anyone who defies the government by disabling or tampering with the policeware on their own computer, in the privacy of their own home or business, would also face five years in the slammer. Since alternative operating systems like Linux and FreeBSD would most likely refuse to incorporate government policeware into their code, users of these open-source systems would also be eligible for hard time. HOW CAN WE FIGHT THIS? If we have any hope of keeping government policeware off of our personal computers and home entertainment devices, we must act quickly and decisively. For starters, you can sign our petition opposing the CBDTPA, contact your representative in Washington, tell a friend about this site, and put a banner on your own web site. Also, if you're a constituent, feel free to contact the CBDTBA's sponsors in the Senate to let them know how you feel. Please be polite and well-reasoned. - Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC) - (202) 224-6121 - Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) - (202) 224-3004 - Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) - (202) 224-3934 - Senator John Breaux (D-LA) - (202) 224-4623 - Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) - (202) 224-5274 - Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) - (202) 224-3841 - Capitol switchboard -- call YOUR Senator! - (202) 224-3121 Finally, the Senate Judiciary Committee has set up a page where you can share your thoughts: Click Here to Visit. PLEASE NOTE that it's more effective to contact your Senator directly -- if you post a comment to the above page, please be sure to make a printout and mail / fax it to your Senator. Thanks for joining the fight. if its not on the front page or hasn't been, i suggest it should be. this is very alarming. " id="57733">i don't know if this has been posted or anything, but this is from www.stoppoliceware.com WHAT IS THE CBDTPA? The CBDTPA is a bill (S. 204 proposed in Congress by Senators Fritz Hollings (D-SC) and Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), along with Senators Daniel Inouye (D-HI), John Breaux (D-LA), Bill Nelson (D-FL), and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). The acronym stands for "Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act". Note that the CBDTPA was originally known as the "SSSCA" while in draft form. WHAT WOULD THIS LAW DO? The law would force all new personal computers and digital home entertainment devices sold in the United States to have government-approved "policeware" built-in. This policeware would restrict your use of copyrighted material on these devices -- including music files and CD's, video clips, DVD's, e-books, and more. WHO COULD GO TO JAIL? You, if you're one of the millions of Americans who uses your computers to burn music CD's, listen to MP3's, share video files, etc. You'd face up to five years in federal prison and a $500,000 fine. Think you'd be able to get around the law by removing the policeware from your personal computer? Think again -- anyone who defies the government by disabling or tampering with the policeware on their own computer, in the privacy of their own home or business, would also face five years in the slammer. Since alternative operating systems like Linux and FreeBSD would most likely refuse to incorporate government policeware into their code, users of these open-source systems would also be eligible for hard time. HOW CAN WE FIGHT THIS? If we have any hope of keeping government policeware off of our personal computers and home entertainment devices, we must act quickly and decisively. For starters, you can sign our petition opposing the CBDTPA, contact your representative in Washington, tell a friend about this site, and put a banner on your own web site. Also, if you're a constituent, feel free to contact the CBDTBA's sponsors in the Senate to let them know how you feel. Please be polite and well-reasoned. - Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC) - (202) 224-6121 - Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) - (202) 224-3004 - Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) - (202) 224-3934 - Senator John Breaux (D-LA) - (202) 224-4623 - Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) - (202) 224-5274 - Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) - (202) 224-3841 - Capitol switchboard -- call YOUR Senator! - (202) 224-3121 Finally, the Senate Judiciary Committee has set up a page where you can share your thoughts: Click Here to Visit. PLEASE NOTE that it's more effective to contact your Senator directly -- if you post a comment to the above page, please be sure to make a printout and mail / fax it to your Senator. Thanks for joining the fight. if its not on the front page or hasn't been, i suggest it should be. this is very alarming.
Expose	Date: August 7, 2003 @ 5:04 AM out of the national anthem of the U.S. It's just fair. " id="57737">Get fined for using Linux? Please, take "Land of the free" out of the national anthem of the U.S. It's just fair.
greendayacj	Date: August 11, 2003 @ 9:37 PM bn.com from what you say i would be prosecuted but i dont really think that that would be true but w/e " id="58273">this law is pretty rediculous because i have ripped about 30 of my cds to my computer but i dont share them on the internet i have a few ebooks i purchased from bn.com from what you say i would be prosecuted but i dont really think that that would be true but w/e
RyanS	Date: August 11, 2003 @ 11:14 PM I'm sure Billy-boy is loving this. That would mean that any PC that would use this crock would have to run Winblows.
princess-angry	Date: August 12, 2003 @ 12:46 AM fuck you RIAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TameasDust	Date: August 12, 2003 @ 2:35 AM someone will figure out a crack that will make the policeware say there is nothing on your system and that you are an angel to all mankind
mtbatol	Date: August 12, 2003 @ 4:13 AM What kind of shit is this? Oh I'm going to jail for tampering with my own private property. WTF?!??!!
mtbatol	Date: August 12, 2003 @ 4:16 AM ooh wait... isn't this old news from almost a year ago? That was just a bill wasn't it? It wasn't pass yet was it?
pixelmasochist	Date: August 15, 2003 @ 8:18 AM I think every one concerend decided it was not beneficial. Sales would drop like a brick, no one in their right mind would purchase something like this.
Lcrowley	Date: August 15, 2003 @ 10:55 AM Did anyone click the link ? it is a dead link .... hmmmmm there really was a bill like this ??? man and I thought I kept up !! I don't remember reading about anythinglike this ... and no shit... computer sales would plummet... lol...
monsquaz	Date: August 16, 2003 @ 8:43 PM Try going to the site now. Look, its just one of those cheap-ass search pages that come up when you try to access a dead domain ! Once again... POLICEWARE IS FAKE. POLICEWARE IS FAKE ! P O L I C E W A R E I S F A K E !" id="58836">Oh, that stupid shit ? IT'S ALL FAKE, PEOPLE. I already DEBUNKED THIS myself (although I should have gone more public with it somehow, because all I did was infest their phony little petition with spammed warnings. I also mentioned that it was fake on topics about the thing on message boards I went to at the time). "Policeware" was a joke started when the Patriot Act was just announced. Either that or it was an overexaggeration of the Patriot Act bill. It tied in the story of a hacker that was arrested in Las Vegas for hacking, not pirating, to make it appear as if there was a victim. That usually lured people in. If you checked TechTV (and other tech news pages) or public U.S. government sites (especially then), you'd see that such a bill calling for "policeware" IS NOT THERE. Try going to the site now. Look, its just one of those cheap-ass search pages that come up when you try to access a dead domain ! Once again... POLICEWARE IS FAKE. POLICEWARE IS FAKE ! P O L I C E W A R E I S F A K E !
monsquaz	Date: August 16, 2003 @ 8:51 PM policeware.com is a typo. It is really: stoppoliceware.org And guess what ? I was overdoing it then, and I was overdoing it just now. There IS a CBDTPA bill: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51245,00.html Fritz Hollings wants something like Policeware, but nothing official has been finished (as far as we know) or even put into use yet." id="58838">Actually, policeware.com is a typo. It is really: stoppoliceware.org And guess what ? I was overdoing it then, and I was overdoing it just now. There IS a CBDTPA bill: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51245,00.html Fritz Hollings wants something like Policeware, but nothing official has been finished (as far as we know) or even put into use yet.
luapwr	Date: September 16, 2003 @ 12:20 PM God I'm glad I don't live in the States any longer, it's getting just too weird over there..!
Nitemair	Date: October 25, 2003 @ 1:01 AM this shit is insane. yo it's fuckin music. It's a great thing in life, it shouldn't be fought over and shit, it should just be enjoyed. Shit. 1!
princess-angry	Date: October 25, 2003 @ 1:41 AM hrrrrmmmm..... they cant do this..... Wanna start a lawsuit anyone?
Jennae	Date: October 25, 2003 @ 3:01 AM I'm down with Nite
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 25, 2003 @ 6:43 AM think it's a joke? im sure ppl said the same thing when some of your presidents got elected and some of the bills you have now were passed. dont put it past them (anyhows, what the hell happened to all these assassinated presidents? noticed nobody's had a pop recently???)
GeneHilbert	Date: October 25, 2003 @ 1:14 PM Makes me just want to rip the damn label right off my mattress.
niccianderson	Date: November 7, 2003 @ 11:16 PM I need to go beg my daddy to take us back to England. We just moved to NYC. I guess it's a little better. But I guess I'll have to stay here. Who the fuck is voting for these assholes anyways?
niccianderson	Date: November 7, 2003 @ 11:27 PM This is unconstitutional. But who the hell cares, huh? Screw the constitution, it's done no good for us. Heck, let's just get rid of democracy! Communism all the way baby! Fuck France and Germany and Turkey and all those other countries who didn't support our massacre against the Iraqis! Man, that war was just great seeing all those towelheads suffer and die a slow and painful death. Then we got into their oil, hehe, yup. Hey, I just thought of something, let's declare war on the whole Middle East! The hell cares if Americans go unemployed and people can't go to college. They can just join the army and get themselves killed. One by one they fall. Hey, they're not bastardly, selfish and greedy old pigs like we are! Who cares about them? They don't have any feelings, even if they do, they don't matter. Fucked up asshole republicans. They go choke on a donkey's dick. -Niccita
KungFuGuy	Date: November 8, 2003 @ 11:00 PM uh ya niccia, you just keep believing that... BULLSHIT hmrph sorry, sorry, I have a bad cough, BULLSHIT hmprh hmprh
Woof	Date: November 21, 2003 @ 3:50 AM Hello. Debunked? Maybe. But not off by more than a few degrees. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html Since 98% of the worlds' computers run Windows, 2005 is the year nobody gets privacy online anymore. We just got a new tower, and hope to have Linux running on our machines by then. But the present Linux software is too primitive to use as it stands now. Point being, if there was no RIAA campaigning as regards piracy in the first place, things probably wouldn't have gotten to this level. Guess we've got Metallica to thank for that... I'm old(er)... at least, old enough to remember when the function of rock was to rail against "the establishment". Thanks to the RIAA and Metallica (and the like), rock musicians these days ARE the establishment. They're corporations just like Enron and Halliburton. Are you a rock & roller? Well, then... time to put on the suit and suck up to corporate and political groups... shake hands with Bush and Bill Gates, and try calling yourself a rebel... what a laugh! And people wonder why Britney Spears has to take her clothes off, to sell CD's... or why rock shows resemble scenes from "Showgirls"... it's all just a big sellout. And the RIAA helped make "the industry" what it is today... Okay (deep breath) I'm done for now... Keep The Faith, Mike.
ChillinBuzz	Date: November 21, 2003 @ 4:05 AM no way. no suit. no sucking up. you wonder why so many ppl hate them? you wonder why sites get defaced and destroyed? you wonder why people blow each other to bits and shoot each other???? will someone PLEASE drop a nuke? i wanna see who gets trigger happy FIRST! (im putting bets each way on China and USA _
jmweirick	Date: November 21, 2003 @ 8:46 PM USA, we're not trigger happy, just money grubbing.
jmweirick	Date: November 21, 2003 @ 8:51 PM oh, and we want to be all powerfull.
Woof	Date: November 22, 2003 @ 1:23 AM Indeed. I swear, I don't understand in the least, why material success in America is the sole measure of a persons' value as a human being. Perhaps, it's because there are no un-humiliating provisions made over here, for the poor. If you ain't got the cash to live well, you're simply f**ked. Plain and simple. No health care. No dental. No food. Canada provides for the less fortunate, and as far as I can tell, they aren't a socialist country... but here, it's every man (or woman) for themselves. That kind of insecurity lurks behind everybodys' motivations, I'm sure. I'm not ready to pull the plug on the US, though, or I wouldn't keep on writing stuff like this, to try to shed a little light on its' (ahem) shortcomings. I just think we're a relatively young country, and need to grow up a lot. Unfortunately, with somebody like Bush at the helm, it's a lot harder to establish a sense among other countries, that we're rational. The elections are next November. That's hopefully gonna change then. At least a little. In the meantime, getting back on-topic, all I can say to my fellow indies out there, is that I hope y'all stay independent. That's the first step in avoiding corruption. Hope This Helps, Mike.
TameasDust	Date: November 22, 2003 @ 12:02 PM When Bush started the war on terrorism no one thought that people who love music would be considered terrorists ... sigh
Maffmatix	Date: November 22, 2003 @ 7:42 PM Assassins are cool.
nigeldispatch	Date: November 23, 2003 @ 10:07 PM No Tameas, stopping music stealers was foremost in the President's mind when he enacted the anti terrorism campaign.
Larree	Date: December 8, 2003 @ 11:15 PM "Makes me just want to rip the damn label right off my mattress." I tore the label off my mattress. shhhhhhhhh...
popdem	Date: December 9, 2003 @ 4:23 AM why does it seem every musician is a democrat... well i guess i'm not ur average entertainer... and my mindset is less than considerate... ah... hate... such a beautiful little pearl... i guess i should love what you depise... all hail bush!!! ...um... down with music piracy!!! runs away crying
djfacemachine	Date: December 9, 2003 @ 10:36 AM avast ye matey
djfacemachine	Date: December 9, 2003 @ 10:36 AM
flamingpyro	Date: December 9, 2003 @ 5:11 PM is this a pirate forum theN? mutters.. wanders off
davw	Date: February 3, 2004 @ 3:48 PM we've just gotta be glad that there are many people on this site uploading their music for everyone to enjoy, although i bet there'll be a law against dmusic - type sites in the future the way this lot is going.
TameasDust	Date: February 6, 2004 @ 2:27 PM
Svensta	Date: February 6, 2004 @ 8:56 PM I thought this thread was familiar. Like from August. igh" How do you guys FIND all these? (I know how, I am really asking WHY) As for piracy I think Johnny Depp said it best in that pirate movie of his, recently: yo ho.
TameasDust	Date: February 6, 2004 @ 9:49 PM its a pirate's life for meeeeee
OneUnderAttack	Date: February 20, 2004 @ 11:44 PM This pisses me off, this is allmost as bad as the DMCA Digital Millenium Copyright Act which is just insane. You know what I did, I had a group of 20 people dress up as pirates and go around to music stores, Movie theatres, any place with a no piracy sign on it. We were told to leave the movie theater because we were causing a disturbance when we asked the person at the box office why pirates weren't allowed. what is up with this bullsht country, the Land of the greed and home of afraid. I swear we have to fear for our lives just cause fukheads want an extra buck, I get a letter from my cable internet provider saying that they will cut off my services if I keep downloading music off the internet, They were mad because I was stealing my own friggin music, that I made, posted up on the internet and they are telling me that they will cut all of my services off if I keep downloading music (I have Cable TV, Internet, and Telephone through this company). I only download my own music and other independent bands music on this site or other sites like this. What is also funny is that the U.S. is trying to monitor the internet but the internet is not only in the U.S. why do you think they call it the World Wide Web. It doesn't make sense because what happens if someone from another country is downloading music, are you going to arrest them. I think it is sad when people in China have more freedom than people in the U.S. and we say were the land of the free, we can get arrested for intellectual property. Whats next Copyrighting Thoughts.
leibstandarte	Date: February 22, 2004 @ 8:47 AM For the UK take on this scene, check out:- www.boycott-bpi.co.uk Cheers
pog	Date: February 22, 2004 @ 9:20 AM Hey, One... there's a patent on that thought already
digitalbeat	Date: February 22, 2004 @ 12:46 PM policeware sounds like a communism disguised in home electronics.
johnnygnote	Date: February 22, 2004 @ 9:46 PM I think this may be for real to some extent check this out http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cbdtpa/ and this http://www.drmwatch.com/special/article.php/3095121 and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Broadband_and_Digital_Television_Promotion_Act and here http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=155 This is an anti site http://256.com/gray/thoughts/2002/20020321.html
comorbid	Date: February 24, 2004 @ 12:53 PM I had a group of 20 people dress up as pirates and go around to music stores, Movie theatres, any place with a no piracy sign on it. Hehehe! Please tell me you videotaped that! Unless of course you didn't, because you know what my next question would be if you said that you did. I don't wanna set myself up for some sort of disappointment, after all.
comorbid	Date: February 24, 2004 @ 12:57 PM Actually, hell, take it a step further. If you have the cash to blow, buy up a bunch of "RIAA-protected" albums from a used music store/ebay/amazon/whatever, then just give them to anyone on the street who wants them.

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