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who still downloads from P2P

Maffmatix	Date: November 26, 2003 @ 10:47 PM ? who here does it still ?
Acumen	Date: November 26, 2003 @ 10:57 PM i do it occasionally these days... not like i used to, usually for artists and bands that don't put mp3s on their websites... even then i still can't get a hold of Roads Must Roll by Boom Blip... must keep searching...
Thaspian	Date: November 26, 2003 @ 11:15 PM CD burner doesn't work, and the comp sound is garbage. I still share a LOT. November has had 24 GB uploaded so far. .... and I dl tonsa games. No use paying so I can get 20 FPS on my garbage comp.
Thaspian	Date: November 26, 2003 @ 11:15 PM Correction. "CD burner doesn't work, and the comp sound is garbage, so I don't dl that much music anymore." I hate when I forget to finish a sentence...
Cryxan	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 4:25 AM Alllll the time. 65 Gigs aint enough. Need more music! More more more more more!
johnnygnote	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 4:55 AM WinMX Lives... Now if only I could find something that works in Linux without WINE...
pog	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 10:33 AM I've been using edonkey2000 under linux... thats pretty cool.
pog	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 10:34 AM ... I mean... errm... noooo.... I havn't been doing any filesharing.
Thaspian	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 10:45 AM Somehow, I thought the witch had more than that. Heh. johnnygnote... tonsa stuff works in Linux without WINE.
princess-angry	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 4:55 PM don't. don't need to. got enough cd's plus, i'm not gonna go to jail over a few songs.
Thaspian	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 5:06 PM Jail? _That's_ hilarious. Scare tactics don't become jailtime.
princess-angry	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 5:12 PM I know but, I just dont. It takes too long and my OS don't have the MP3 support. I almost did get caught! my parent's computer, I know has gotten into, and that's where I got most of my songs. serveral have gotten corrupted as a result. Besides I don't want any new music now exept a few songs. I guess the industry is goin though another whiny music phase even the rockers sound all whiny and they sound like they are gonna cry or soemthing! geez! they also sound icky! who wants to hear people sound like they have a hangover and they get paid all this money to sound like crap. grrr. too many remakes too. not enought original sounding songs. also sound like they were composed and producted and tought of all in a grand total of 5 minutes!
Thaspian	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 5:59 PM MP3 plugin for XMMS. ;)" id="71202">Redhat doesn't have MP3 support out of the box, but it can play it. Here, get the MP3 plugin for XMMS.
princess-angry	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 7:28 PM I did and sadly it did not work. can;t disclose why cause I'm not sure yet why excatly it is not working. I got the plugin a long time ago. I Might be able to get it working. I really don't want to screw things up though. I think it's fine thought since I don't feel like messing soemthing up.
sinai	Date: November 27, 2003 @ 9:51 PM downloading tracks right now, as a matter of fact
mushman	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 1:37 AM i keep my p2p on almost all of the time riaa sucks
luapwr	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 3:15 AM I still use p2p from time to time but the problem isn't that I fear the RIAA, the "MUSIC" that's out there today just plain sucks..!!! So the RIAA wants us to stop using p2p? Well if they keep coming out with such ho-hum music people will just turn to the better stuff that's being offered by the Independents on sites like www.dmusic.com anyway!
Veracohr	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 5:45 AM Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I never started! True. I have not downloaded a single anything from a P2P thingie. Well, there was this one time I did it for work when my boss wanted me to make a special St. Patrick's Day mix with Irish music, and that was the first, last and only time I've ever used a P2P thingie. For one thing, I don't know of any for Macintosh, which is what I have at home. For another thing, I am so disillusioned with the music being made these days that I've more or less given up. And as for older stuff that I would like to have, CDs are for me, not MP3 or even a lossless compression scheme. I don't have any portable players for those files and I don't plan on getting one (hey, where's my Discman, it's been missing for a couple months?!). Since I now refuse to support the RIAA, music on such labels that I want I'll have to get second hand or just live with not having it. Plus, don't those P2P thingies require you to have your computer on and connected to the internet all the time? Well, I know you don't have to, but if you want your files to be available to other people, you have to be connected, right? Well, I'm not online at home very much, and when I am I would not want the bandwidth of my free dial-up connection taken up by someone downloading from my hard drive. I need that bandwidth for downloading porn!
Tudris	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 5:51 AM Keeping it short. Yes.
johnnygnote	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 5:53 AM I use Mandrake 9.1 so XMMS works great but I was looking at Alsa Player, I believe it has a download for Redhat.
Tudris	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 5:59 AM Well, dang. I read Veracohr's post, so I must spend more time typing. There used to be almost zero P2P thingies for Macs, but now there are plenty. First off, do you use OS X or 9? Most of it only runs on X. I'm going to list my top two. Poisoned - www.poisonedproject.com - Poisoned is awesome. Connects to FastTrack, OpenFT, giFTd, and Gnutella. OpenNap support is coming soon. Nice, clean interface, fast and easy. My favorite. OS X only. Drumbeat - www.drumbeat.info - Should be called "Drumbeta". Poor interface (custom drawn widgets), and it's very resource intensive for whatever reason. Despite this, you have to pay for the app to use it beyond 30 days. However, it does work. Finds lots of files and has a pretty good success rate. Connects to OpenNap. OS X and 9. Hope that helps, just in case you want to give P2P thingies a shot.
johnnygnote	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 6:06 AM http://www.alsaplayer.org/download.php3
woodhead	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 9:49 AM I use it mostly for my band, have had some uploads that is cool. BUt other than that not much any more, except for searching for indie artist. With all the RIAA crap they just turned me off and the artist not saying any thing was even more of a turn off, so to me if the RIAA and there artist like thier music so much, they can keep it I am not intreste4d in 18.00 for a cd when I know how much it cost to mass produce at a small level. ex. 100 CD's for 79.99 and the more you buy the better the price so they can keep thier tunes.
peatrap	Date: January 4, 2004 @ 9:18 AM still want to p2p,check out (earth station 5) this is cool.
sinai	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 12:59 AM i'm trying to get my last uses out of Kazaalite
Cryxan	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 1:13 AM Watch out for Earth Station 5, peatrap. It's got some nasty coding in it that would allow for your shared files to be deleted. I forget the details, but I'd recommend you look into it.
TameasDust	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 2:16 AM i think thasp had a thread on Earth station 5 a while ago ... I don't use P2P anymore just don't have the time to bother with it and all the hassles of it
simplechords	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 2:21 AM i still use it, however i don't file share, atleast not on kazza
figfarmer	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 10:48 AM Many thousands of Canadians including myself use it all the time. It is perfectly legal here, as it is in many other countries where the people aren't as unfortunate as those living in the U.S.
pog	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 7:32 PM You're kidding me.... you believe it's legal. break out the swimming team. Just because you're in a different country, they'll still sue the pants off you for sharing. Right now, I'd go so far as to say that your i.p. address/s is in a huge database of victims, just like everyone else who doesn't use riaa blocks.
woodhead	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 8:16 PM You're kidding me.... you believe it's legal. Acctually in Canada it is legal, the CRIA is trying to stop it, but there is such a heavy tax on blank media that the government allows it. The tax money is then given to the record industry and so forth and so forth. So if you live in Canada become a super node for those of us here in the states please.
Maffmatix	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 10:08 PM Yea but Canadians deserve it... after all they're stuck in Canada.
pog	Date: January 5, 2004 @ 11:56 PM So you're telling me that if I were to electronically break into a bank in the u.s. They can't get me here. Thats about how much sense that concept makes.
figfarmer	Date: January 6, 2004 @ 12:29 AM No, it's more like, if some idiot country put a tax on air they couldn't enforce it places where the people had sense.
Pagan	Date: January 6, 2004 @ 5:14 PM "LAND OF THE FREE" INDEED!
Pagan	Date: January 6, 2004 @ 5:14 PM LOL @ Boner
mtekk	Date: January 6, 2004 @ 9:23 PM Sharing about 43GB of 100% purely quality files over the G2 network. and still dling allot of stuff off of p2p, i need cable internet though
peatrap	Date: January 7, 2004 @ 7:46 PM you long for the old days, no fear downloading days, try out (earth station 5.com) this is really cool.
peatrap	Date: January 7, 2004 @ 7:51 PM you know what, i think i repeated myself.
Acumen	Date: January 7, 2004 @ 10:51 PM /me opens soulseek gonna get me some of that dj shadow and autolux action on the go
musicpicks	Date: January 8, 2004 @ 2:29 AM You freeloaders, how dare ya!!!
Maffmatix	Date: January 8, 2004 @ 3:38 AM I repeat. Poor Canadians. They live in Canada.
pog	Date: January 8, 2004 @ 8:22 AM How much do they pay for a blank cd in canada ??
sepidman	Date: January 8, 2004 @ 10:29 AM anywhere from 35cents to a dollar depending on what deal might be available at the time. can be a bit moer, or a bit less.
sepidman	Date: January 8, 2004 @ 10:33 AM And boner, I had the chance to live in the US, Columbia South Carolina actually but decided against it. I live pretty close to the border. Just north of New York state.
Maffmatix	Date: January 8, 2004 @ 2:45 PM Poor guy. I feel for ya sepid!
OldSchoolHipHop	Date: January 8, 2004 @ 4:37 PM they cant sue u in canada because the dmca only applies to the u.s, not canada or any other country so if u live in canada u can download as many songs as u like and the riaa cant do shit
Veracohr	Date: January 8, 2004 @ 10:35 PM I downloaded a P2P for one reason: to find the Paris Hilton video. Didn't get it. Though not for lack of files popping up under a search, just that none of them were 'it'. I also decided, while I had it, that I would look for the original version of a song I have on a CD. I've heard two different versions of this song, but neither were the original, and it's one of my favorite songs. Didn't find it. Plenty of other versions, but not the original.
figfarmer	Date: January 9, 2004 @ 12:13 AM What song Vera?
Veracohr	Date: January 9, 2004 @ 12:31 AM "Cafe Del Mar" by Energy 52
Autophage	Date: January 13, 2004 @ 10:34 PM I download stuff and move it out of the shared folder... hehehe. Mainly just songs that I sit around thinking 'damn i wish that would come on the radio' but of course it doesn't, or songs that someone recommends that I've never heard. If I like a band much, i generally do buy CD's, but a lot of the time i only like one or two songs, so i just download them.
Distilled1	Date: January 14, 2004 @ 12:16 AM wwwooo + ther eis tons of better music at DMusic and other indie band sites etc. fuck the RIAA and all the music they represent the stuff they try to force feed us anymore is I do miss finding those rare cuts though and use all the web to find ftp and other sites with files on them
figfarmer	Date: January 14, 2004 @ 12:28 AM I see lots of copies of it on Kazaa. Am downloading some. Sounds like what I'd call syntho pop. No vocal. Solar Stone remix version is kinda fancy, in at 8 min 38 seconds. Another version(Cafe Del Mar 2002) comes in at 8:34. There's a short version with part of some kind of interview at the end. The piece kind of reminds me of a movie I saw about a musician with robotic hands or some such thing.
Veracohr	Date: January 14, 2004 @ 8:18 PM The problem with finding the original "Cafe Del Mar" song is that there are dozens of different versions, or 'mixes'. The original is from 1993 or 94 I think. It was 'remixed' a lot around 1998 when trance was at its heyday. Well, I just spent about $35 ordering a vinyl record from an online shop based in the UK (so got gouged on shipping, not to mention the already high price of the record) containing the original and two remixes by Underworld. I'm very interested in hearing the Underworld remixes!
figfarmer	Date: January 14, 2004 @ 11:17 PM LIke I said, the Solar Stone remix sounds the most interesting if you can get a listen to it. I hope you enjoy your record.
torndownunit	Date: January 15, 2004 @ 9:33 AM I used P2P apps to download a lot of stuff by bands on small labels. Only because it's the only way I can preview the stuff before buying it. These CD's are hard to find in stores, and shipping them to Canada can get a little pricey. So I like to hear what I am buying first. The amount of CD's I buy has increased because of this "quality control". SoulSeek is what I use because it has the most 'non-popular' music. Someone mentioned a lack of Mac p2p apps earlier the the thread? Go to versiontracker.com and look some of these up: MlDonkey, MLMac, Poisoned, X-Nap, iSwipe, Limewire, Acquisition, Acqlite, Mute, Myster, Direct Connect, Hotline, Carracho...and there are a lot more I could name. There are no shortage of P2P apps for Mac. Especially since OSX came along.
FuRY1671	Date: February 24, 2004 @ 5:03 PM I only use my P2P for "Adult Entertainment" Personally, I hate the crappy music nowadays.
leibstandarte	Date: February 26, 2004 @ 2:25 PM 24/7 365 opend a port and can remotley admin the bugger from anywhere 2x 180Gb drives Stuffed, 2x40Gb pretty full, external 210Gb drive in need of compression! running out of shit to download though!
MickeyBreezy	Date: February 26, 2004 @ 11:01 PM im still doin the KaZaA thing
Thaspian	Date: February 27, 2004 @ 9:40 PM I found a 5.1 remaster of Metallica's Black Album, so everything's goin' fine here. Now for a 5.1 speaker set. The piracy's goin' just fine here.
Svensta	Date: February 28, 2004 @ 8:59 AM The only problem is storage! Especially for you video types. Thankfully a trade association has finally decided on a standard for the NEW dvd format HD-DVD. 20gb per side on a DVD. WOO! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/63/35889.html
robbydadrummer	Date: February 28, 2004 @ 3:40 PM I'm still using SoulSeek once in a while... not nearly as much as I used to, though. I don't have that much space left until I burn a fair amount off my D drive. I got about 65 gig's of music on here right now...
YaBoyDrew	Date: February 29, 2004 @ 1:13 AM i do
mtekk	Date: February 29, 2004 @ 1:58 PM Now i'm sharing over 50 GB of purly quality files, none are RIAA products, except the 'grey album' for an extended protest against the riaa. HD-DVD, 20 gb per a side, now is that single layer or dual layer. Damn, only ten hd dvds will fit on my big hard drive, now that isn't cool now i have a need for a terrabyte of storage
OrryBreaker	Date: March 1, 2004 @ 6:51 PM yes i still use it. I been downloading songs off of mirc way before napster but hay I would use any program that allows me to get music and porn at the same time.
JohnnyBB	Date: March 1, 2004 @ 7:53 PM I dont do it anymore. The only thing I ever used it for before, was for songs I didnt want to buy the whole album of. Plus, I'm unlucky, very unlucky (my nickname in high school was 'murphy's law'). If I want a radio single that bad, I'll pick it up on iTunes. I dont hold other people to the same standard. $.99 isnt that much to me though, and its not like I'm a rich rich guy, so thats the way I do it. I also like to think that if I use iTunes, I might be doing something to help change the business model eventually... even if that may seem like disillusioned thinking to some.
Hollohan	Date: March 2, 2004 @ 2:38 PM Ok...anyone who stopped downloading p2p on kazza or anything because of a scare are fags. Obvisouly you could fight anything in court if you were to get fined which you wouldn't anyways. Obvisouly noone wants to buy cds from other than 1 or 2 artists because usually the album as a whole sucks with one or two good songs.
JohnnyBB	Date: March 2, 2004 @ 3:03 PM I dont know what music you're listening to, almost every CD I own (I feel) is a quality all around album, and I own about 75 CDs. If theres a song I want, and I dont expect the album to be a quality album (for example if I wanted a Britney Spears song or something), I'd cough up some chump change and buy it on iTunes. Also, I work as a paralegal for a law firm that deals in civil litigation, defending yourself is not cheap. You speak about fighting something in court like its something you can just brush off like its nothing. You'd probably win if you fought it, but you'd probably pay more in attorney's fees than you would if you'd just settle and pay their penalty. Your argument is lame, and you use ignorant words like fag.
JohnnyBB	Date: March 2, 2004 @ 3:08 PM What I will add though, is I dont care what other people do. If you dont want to pay for music, go ahead I'm not gonna make you. But dont call me a "fag" for doing it the way I want to do it, because it's just plain rude. I have a personal preference.
Artsa	Date: March 4, 2004 @ 5:27 PM Indepentend MUSIC rules! ...so that's why I,m listening that! HIT MUSIC SUX!
Cantido	Date: March 8, 2004 @ 4:04 PM I do. My favorite band, the pillows, is Japanese.
torndownunit	Date: March 8, 2004 @ 7:03 PM If they had a half decent version of SoulSeek for Mac OSX I would probably be downloading something right now....
Etheracide	Date: March 8, 2004 @ 8:53 PM I rarely do lately. I have less time to do the things I need to get done on here and I need all the possible bandwidth for uploading the scripts/programs and sites that I am working on and P2P always soaks the bandwidth because people don't realize that if they are downloading a song at only .2k/hour that they should cancel. And then you have 20 people doing that...figuring that because it says that the song is being transfered that they should just keep it going. But if I happen to catch a song that really sinks itself into my subconscious in either a movie or the very rare times that I have the radio on, I may download it.
Krissco	Date: March 8, 2004 @ 8:58 PM I haven't since Kazaa crashed my computer with it's spyware bullcrap and ads.