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Whats real hip-hop

FuriousS	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 8:12 AM With all the controversy in hip-hop, with every artist claiming to be real and that every other artist isn’t what is real hip-hop?
pog	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 8:23 AM Most music has this trend, I've noticed. I guess the old garage recordings that people make are of more realistic quality cos they're not all over processed." id="11415">It's like that with any kind of music, hey... The die hard fans always say stuff like "This commercial crap sucks.... nothing like old skool rap/punk/metal/hiphop/rock, etc." Most music has this trend, I've noticed. I guess the old garage recordings that people make are of more realistic quality cos they're not all over processed.
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 11:42 AM eminem is cool
Svensta	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 12:47 PM Most of my experience being in rock and industrial, it's always the up-and-coming bands that are going to "be Metallica when Metallica was still good!" Once they made it pass their freshman efforts, they begin to evolve and become influenced by their now-mainstream producers. Then they are just the new sell-outs in a long line of them. I don't know how valid it is. I believe music is personal. I don't care what people think of the bands I love most. I just love them. and pirate their music when I can J/K ;)" id="11456">I seem to wander around this site, following Pog, and agreeing with him. I always start with "I agree with the Pogster" but again he's right. Every band that becomes mainstream has a following, and a following of haters, and a following of people chanting what sell-outs they are... Most of my experience being in rock and industrial, it's always the up-and-coming bands that are going to "be Metallica when Metallica was still good!" Once they made it pass their freshman efforts, they begin to evolve and become influenced by their now-mainstream producers. Then they are just the new sell-outs in a long line of them. I don't know how valid it is. I believe music is personal. I don't care what people think of the bands I love most. I just love them. and pirate their music when I can J/K
smelv1n	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 4:32 PM i personally like old school rap and hip hop alot better than what i hear on the tv and radio today for me it's because the old stuff i listen to isn't all bling bling this, booty shaking that like the crap they call music on much music and mtv
LyrikallyLost	Date: June 21, 2002 @ 4:14 PM Real hip-hop to me has to be complex, you gotta have syllables and you gotta be original.. "Real" hip-hop artists love their music and is passionate about it, and u can tell by listening to their lyrics..
Cryxan	Date: June 21, 2002 @ 4:42 PM How can you write lyrics WITHOUT syllables?
mtbatol	Date: June 21, 2002 @ 5:34 PM lol cryxan Well "real" hip hop is about the love of the artform and is very much poetic when you hear cats like common, rakim, mos, or black thought kick a verse which may either come from them attacking the mic or just droppin knowledge. Taking time out to write rhymes, recite them, spit from the top of your head and refining your thoughts whether it's through a freestyle behind a sampled beat or acapella is a beautiful thing. Like on Carson Daly's show recently when he had Mos Def spit a short acapella (spelling?) it was tight, thoughtful and is somethin some of these gazed up wanna be thugs can't do without sounding like a posing idiot. You have your rappers and then you have your mc's whose versitile & poetic. If I listen to a rap album and wile listening to the person spit I honestly say to myself "hey, I can do that.." or "damn, i could write/spit a better bar then that.." then I come to the conclusion that the person is definately lacking as a lyricist (in other words da ni99a's gabbage (worst then garbage)). Like what the great J-Live says, "everybody's rappin, but only few can flow..."
HappyPeople84	Date: July 28, 2002 @ 2:50 PM yo yea i agree mtbatol... u obviosily kno ure artist wiv J-Live dat dude is tight... i think mtbatol pretty much sumed up wot 'real' hip hop is all bout... basicly all dat commercial BS u hear on MTV like Jay-Z, P. Diddy, Nelly etc etc thats all commercial rubbish & gives rap a bad name (if u ask me) coz all they rap bout is the money, cars & women.... but the real hip hop is nothing like that & when i hear ppl hatein on hip hop i always say who u heard & they have only heard wot u hear on MTV & the radio. & so when i play the 'real' hip hop they are 'dang' u kno wot i mean... LOL i got no idea where i am goin with this im just ramberling on... but my last point is on Eminem & u can say he is wack & stuff is beyond me just coz he as gone commercial thats not is fault but look at this way... if he hadnt gone commercial & u just heard him one of his songs u would say yea man this guy is tight.... but just coz he is commercial & he's everywhere y'all got b hatin on him anyway just puttin my 2cents.. pz
jawnyblazd	Date: August 22, 2002 @ 2:43 AM hey.. J-LIVE IS TIIIGHT. yo everyone go pick up "All of the Above" by J-Live... NOW!!!
Psyence131	Date: August 22, 2002 @ 4:42 AM anything done with heart...the rest is just useless babble..what´s real, what´s not..who cares?...expand ya braincells..don´t let them feed u with negativity...
fu-dog	Date: September 18, 2002 @ 4:12 PM J-live is pretty rad. ...but to the thread point: what constitutes real hip-hop is endlessly debatable, as with any other genre/art. It comes down to what you like in the end. The over-processed, dumbed-down commercial hip-hop you see and hear on MTV is just as real as the underground, in-it-for-life hop the die-hards don't tell you about. Perhaps a more useful question for you is this: What kind of hip-hop do i want to hear? Lots of artists put eachother down because it's been a standing tradition in the hip-hop lineage. The more rhymes you follow the more you'll realise that the real doesn't exist beyond the word. The art form of rapping is wordplay. Although, with lots of listening, you'll find that there are definately some folks out there that are disturbingly talented, lightyears beyond their brethren, and nothing but bliss to the ears.
icisnizz	Date: September 18, 2002 @ 8:47 PM agree with fu...'real' is the wrong word...with so many different styles of music there is no actual 'real' form of any music...it all comes down to what you feel...I belive that music is an artform and feel people who create it out of enjoyment/passion are somewhat 'real', but that's just my opinion.
icisnizz	Date: September 18, 2002 @ 8:53 PM I would like someone to name a 'fake' hip-hop artist. Hard, isn't it...I think that even the artists that make music for profit still have those small elements of 'real' in them.
gemini20	Date: October 8, 2002 @ 6:59 PM " id="22663">Fake: Nelly, Cash Money, Vanilla Ice, Marky Mark & the Funky Bunch, The Fresh Prince, Tone-Loc, Real: The Roots, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Jazzy Jeff, J-Live, Bahamadia, KRS-One, Rakim, Kam, Scarface Need More? By the way: Making money in the rap game doesnt make you a fake emcee, that just gives you commercial success, which some rappers have done and prospered, while others have made quick cash on a gimmick and then loose all respect from their fans. A fake emcee is someone that goes along with an image and raps like someone they've seen or heard. If you are rapping from the heart it should be YOU not a character or playing the role of someone to reach a specific type of audience. Hip-hop is a expression of ones self or perception of themself into words. When you are "real" you are being yourself and it can be seen whether or not you are doing just that. When you are "fake" you try to be something that you are not, which is the norm for hip-hop (not all but alot). Most of the time its the record companies that have a specific image they want their artist to follow, thats why their is soooo much heat about artistic control and contract arrangements. I guess its the same for all music.

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