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Woof	Date: September 15, 2004 @ 4:15 AM First off, thanks Leflaw for the forum! Much appreciated! Now onward to the subject at hand: SP2. I've installed it, then uninstalled it... because not only didn't my firewall and antivirus work with it, but reports across the web have made mention that even programs that DO run with Service Pack 2 installed, might not run the same as they used to... So tell me... is this a blessing, or a menace?
Distilled1	Date: September 15, 2004 @ 10:19 AM well after these few weeks with it the only trouble I have is ZA 4.5 pro, Won't always open untill I tell M$ stupid security center I'm running a fire wall, than it works fine. I run Norton full and updated with no trouble I did download alot of new drivers and such befor I installed it from everything so they would work with it. My earthlink bar is another eissue although I never use it so I just close it when it opens or it will come down from hiding every 10 seconds! so far all my programs work with it and I haven't noticed much diffrence. I havent read so much on the web as I didn't have any real problomes.
povertystricken	Date: September 15, 2004 @ 5:02 PM my only problems have been with zone alarm, that and macafee security center conflicts with the new windows security center. My Fix: ZA=history, and Macafee SC=set as default.
mtekk	Date: September 15, 2004 @ 10:29 PM with the built in 'advanced' firewall, plus anti-virus app, your old ones' arn't necessary (i guess ) I haven't used a firewall of anti virus software for years (2 count 'em 2) and I've only recieved 1 virus (blaster, but i fixed that). The half-open port thingy really screws around with getting the most out of your braud band connection with p2p.
wet1	Date: September 15, 2004 @ 11:34 PM I suspect that Micro$uc$ rushed this update into completion without really doing all the testing it should have. They have spent a large amount of effort in capturing the market of the browser. To have Homeland Security issue a warning for the public to change browsers due to security holes was the necessary impetitous to get Micro$uc$ on the ball and quit blaming the users instead of actually addressing the real problem of a poorly coded browser. I have heard a lot of reports of problems and yet other that literally had no problem at all. I put it on this machine only to take it back off. I don't like a firewall I can not uninstall or remove. Yes, I know you can turn it off but that isn't the issue. I don't trust Micro$uc$ a bit. If they will hide files of where you go, what you load, even your email messages and then set it up so that you can't find those files then I feel I am justified not to trust them. Lastly, most other firewalls are far better at doing the job than this application that looks like a reject from some Fisher-Price design. Since it was appearently rushed, it doesn't support a lot of different features and has caused some folks a lot of greif. If you have a standard computer setup, you should have no problem; if there is something unusal in either your computer or some of the programs you use, you should think twice before you install it.
povertystricken	Date: September 16, 2004 @ 1:14 PM distilled, if you must use ZA try ZA 5.1 I've had no problems after 1 day (not sayin' much I know)
Distilled1	Date: September 16, 2004 @ 5:01 PM " id="112485">I had ZA 5.1 Nothing but trouble. Took me 2 weeks after a clean install of it to get on line it was just a mess! so I reverted back to 4.5 it has what I want and does work with SP2 just dosent always start up have to give it a push at times wet1 I agree "Lastly, most other firewalls are far better at doing the job than this application that looks like a reject from some Fisher-Price design."
shadowself	Date: September 16, 2004 @ 8:00 PM Just a tip: before installing SP2, make sure your computer is COMPLETELY free of spyware. This includes the 9 spyware programs that are included with Kazaa.
gothian	Date: September 18, 2004 @ 9:22 PM SP2 is a nightmare
RyanS	Date: September 19, 2004 @ 11:44 AM Believe it or not, no major issues with SP2 for me. I even went as far as to slipstream it so when it was necessary to reinstall, SP2 is already included right from the start. I usually have more issues when installing a service pack after the install of the OS, especially on a well used install. As far as Zone Alarm, I've finally dumped it for Sygate. Back in the day, ZA worked great, but since versions 5, it's went down hill. Plus Sygate seems to catch more stuff than ZA did. Now if Sygate would tell SP2 that a firewall is installed so that stupid warning would go away. Actually Windows needs to fix that so when I check it to stop checking, it'll stop checking it for the life of the install.
iluminati	Date: September 19, 2004 @ 2:30 PM Turning off the software firewall per NIC is an easy way to get around alot of the issues with SP2.
spiralmux	Date: September 19, 2004 @ 2:32 PM Well, I still run Windows 2000, and we haven't deployed SP2 at work yet, as it does break a lot of apps and we haven't been able to fully test it. I concur with above posts that it seems rushed, but keep in mind that Microsoft has been forthcoming; they warn that it will break some things. The problem is that Windows is such a hack job that in order to fix a lot of security problems, they actually have to redesign some APIs and whatnot. So things that rely on the redesigned parts are probably going to break.
Woof	Date: September 20, 2004 @ 4:27 AM That's exactly my concern, Mux... I'd hate to be going along, all business as usual... and then one night, I go to pull up a favorite program I haven't used in a while, only to find out it malfunctions... Oh... and the new Microsoft firewall is crap. It only blocks inbound traffic. So your PC can send out anything it damn well pleases, at any given time, without notice... that's a threat to my peace of mind, right there... Not to mention, I pay for my antivirus, etc... not a lot, but still... and now I've just gotta trash it, for the sake of a free update, which is reported to add NEW security holes, even as it eliminates some old ones? Yeah that's right... some of its' new handy-dandy features, can open up new avenues for exploitation... It's just a mess... rushed, and poorly thought out.
wet1	Date: September 25, 2004 @ 10:19 PM If I could make a recommendation on a firewall, it would be Kerio. Turn the firewall off in sp2 if you got to have the rest and let kerio do the blocking. There is much to be said of Kerio, it is one of the only firewalls I know of that will allow you to block individual ports by choice. This is handy if you have a trojan and know its communition ports. You can bottle it up so it can't send out a report. Not many firewalls allow you that sort of flexability. Kerio can be found by web search. While I know the address, I hesitate to write it in out of respect for this site and its rules.
TameasDust	Date: September 28, 2004 @ 7:34 AM rules??? we have rules??? ... anywho I use xp2 turned of the firewall have zonealarm ... turned off the antivirus got avg but I use the popup blocker in the xp2 ... works kinda cool and better than the google one ...
pog	Date: September 30, 2004 @ 7:23 PM well, lately, I've been reconfiguring my network, and I only have sp2 on the host pc.... it can't even see itself on the network. I have a few choice words to say about this update, but I was brought up with "If you havn't got anything nice to say...."
Cryxan	Date: October 1, 2004 @ 4:40 AM I have a basic rule for major MS updates. Don't update until it's been out long enough for them to publish at least a few patches for the new holes the update just imposed on a system.
bushydick	Date: October 18, 2004 @ 2:46 AM SeriousProblems 2 is just another form of spyware! Why do you think they sent it out to people on cd.. Www.BushyDick.com
TheWitchingHour	Date: October 22, 2004 @ 9:11 AM The only problem out of my 3 pcs was one of the desktops developed some kind of weird fault on exiting or restarting and would hang like 30 minutes and give a memory error. Went ahead and reinstalled with sp2 first off and it's fine now.
Woof	Date: October 23, 2004 @ 3:17 AM Well, here's an update... a guy I work with has SP2 installed, and received more M$ updates just tonight, via auto-update... so I thought hmmm... maybe I'm missing a few critical fixes... and scanned for updates when I got home... guess what? Nothing available, except SP2! Now... that's got me thinking... does SP2 need to be installed, before the newer updates and bugfixes can be made available? I wonder... It ALMOST makes me want to try installing it again to find out, now that my firewall and antivirus have also been updated... but then, if it DOESN'T work, or is buggy still, I'm not in any mood to deal with getting it off of my system... again...
TameasDust	Date: October 23, 2004 @ 9:23 AM I hear of problems with sp2 as opposed to not getting sp2, but ... I have sp2 on my system whereas wildas has not installed it yet ... the only difference I notice between the two system is that zonealarm takes a few seconds more to boot ... I wonder if there is a difference between using it on xp pro and xp home. also wondering what it doesn't run persay as opposed to before sp2
Woof	Date: October 23, 2004 @ 3:19 PM When I first started having problems after installing SP2, I did some research and found this article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/17/xp_sp2_glitches/ It also links to Micro$oft's list of known programs that would not work under SP2... Zonealarm was a problem... sometimes it would load fine, sometimes it would load slow, and sometimes it wouldn't load at all... no rhyme or reason... it just depended on the day... In addition to Norton Antivirus 2003 not being compatible with SP2, as M$ have admitted, NAV 2004 didn't update properly after installation under SP2, either... I imagine any number of programs have issued updates since then, that could help fix some of the problems, and M$ may have issued more updates of their own... Anybody has any news on that, please post...
shadowself	Date: October 31, 2004 @ 9:56 PM ZA works fine for me. Try uninstalling and reinstalling. And I can't stress enough to make sure your machine is totally free of spyware and viruses before upgrading. The only SP2 glitch I have encountered on my own machine was that I had to reinstall me kX audio drivers.
Distilled1	Date: November 1, 2004 @ 9:44 AM ZA works for me too but M$ wont see it so I always have to open the security cnter and tell it its there.
geetarman	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 8:57 AM NO JAVA!!! I hate this, really. I installed service pack two only find out none of my java apps work. So off to Sun.com to download the "small" java file. And then I had to set my browser to "allow" java to run... What's the point!
Distilled1	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 9:52 AM ya it sucks all the things it wants you to give permision to run but once its set it seems to run great if your like me and prefer IE I have to say with the old Mozila I have and Opera I had to try and FIND all the java and other plugins to download
hob2dope	Date: April 25, 2005 @ 12:29 AM Well i dont know, with SP2 my computer works fine, i got McCaffee and norton firewall, and use firefox and everything works just fine, security is good and everything works fine.
Svensta	Date: April 25, 2005 @ 10:48 AM Since this was ressurected... I updated the work machine to SP2, about 10 days ago. Two bluescreens since (none in the first 14 months of this system), and a continual, perpetual ANNOYING request to update the 'Malicious Software Removal Tool' that never runs successfully. I hate sp2. Everything works, just not as well. When I boot, the system runs max for about 60 seconds before coming all the way up. Think the home machines will pass on this one permanently.
DaveWL	Date: May 28, 2005 @ 12:55 PM I installed SP2 mainly because my computer kept asking me if I wanted to and I eventually succumbed to it’s nagging. Afterward’s My PC became so slow it was inoperable, constantly on 100% CPU usage even though no applications were running. I have 512MB memory so that should have been sufficient. Because my PC was so slow it then took me a day to uninstall it. Now things are back to normal.
hantu	Date: August 26, 2005 @ 1:25 PM i got sp2 everything works fine, well as fine as it was working before
imemine	Date: December 1, 2005 @ 6:20 PM Well, finally broke down and did it recklessly ignoring all the bad press. It seems to be ok but I haven’t checked everything yet. My music programs seem to work so that’s a good thing. Wonder what plugins will drop out though.

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