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So bad it's gone past good and back to bad again..

ryanwilliams	Date: October 15, 2004 @ 4:32 AM Okay. Curious question. I've attended several open mics in my time. Now, with one exception, I have never heard something that was so bad you were torn between killing yourself and exploding with laughter. The one exception is a person I've had the 'privilege' of seeing more than once. I'm not going to publicly trash anybody, and that's a hint, but suffice it to say this person is not a member at dmusic in case you were wondering. This person is BEYOND bad and seriously is trying to pursue a career--I'm talking tone-deaf. So the natural reaction is to just sit there, try to pretend to enjoy it, and then applaud at the end, out of courtesy. I mean, hell, the person gets bravery points for going up at all. But said individual just straight-up sucks, and it's not a secret.. so is this REALLY how we should react? Or I guess.. what would you guys do if you found yourself in the audience of " 'Roseanne does The Anthem' meets 'Yoko Cubed' " ?
Cryxan	Date: October 15, 2004 @ 4:56 AM Well, maybe there wasn't much musical value to the performance, but you were entertained...
godcantgivem...	Date: October 15, 2004 @ 6:24 AM ^^^ true bruv true... Jus tell him: 'man...Yousuck..you suck a huge penis'
ryanwilliams	Date: October 15, 2004 @ 10:18 AM Very true, Cryxan. VERY true! :ROFL:
chrismacmanus	Date: October 15, 2004 @ 10:31 AM I quite like the feeling those performers give me - they make me look a lot better!
gumbee	Date: October 15, 2004 @ 3:24 PM Commenting of BEYOND bad: I have never attended "open mics". Should one in the Peeping audience pretend to enjoy because it is natural to show courtesy? I suppose I am unnatural. I would not raise my hands in applauding even at half-mast. To me, courtesy ends when I walk in and sit down, meaning that it takes my time to shave/shower and drive there. Courtesy is shown because I am there. And Vise Versa, the Artist(s) shows the courtesy of getting on stage, instead of getting stage-fright. But to me, that is where it stops. I do not believe that by being Negatively-Honest about the Artist(s) song/trak is being a Poison-Pill for the Artist(s) themselves. Once the Artist(s) knows the blunt truth about the song/trak, it is up to the Artist(s) to decide what actions are necessary to pursue their dreams. We are interdependent on each other, PeePerz need Playaz and Playaz need PeePerz and Honesty is always the best medicine.
Nutjob	Date: October 15, 2004 @ 5:02 PM this thread could be written about me... well apart from the bit about being good (Whats that dear...) ----- the footprints in the snow...
pancreaspuppet	Date: October 20, 2004 @ 8:13 AM The best answer I can give to this question is two words: "William Hung". The world is a crazy place.
EmpireDay3	Date: October 20, 2004 @ 2:21 PM puppet's got it right - and sometimes there's no accounting for taste - but you're right, some people just stink. Let em pursue a career all they want and unless someone asks for my opinion and they really really suck, I don't offer it. I think you're right, tho, it is just a natural reaction to sit there and clap out of courtesy - applauding the effort I guess. I know straight up what you mean. What can you say?
ryanwilliams	Date: October 20, 2004 @ 3:46 PM pancreas: William Hung is actually BETTER than the person I'm talking about. fyi. It sucks though. You kind of wish that when it's that bad you could have the Apollo audience come in for their set or something.
sinai	Date: October 20, 2004 @ 3:51 PM juss walk up to them afterwards and say "dude, you owe me a beer."
DeltaF86	Date: October 22, 2004 @ 10:50 PM Probably better than me
pancreaspuppet	Date: October 22, 2004 @ 11:54 PM HA! Wow Ryan, that's a big call. In that case, you should have marched right up to him while he was "performing" and beat his head with a melon. Seriously though, an open-mic is precious time for people who want to show serious talent - I would show tolerance for a while but if it happened repeatedly someone would have to tell them that no-one appreciates them floundering about on the mic.
Woof	Date: October 23, 2004 @ 4:26 AM Chalk it up to a learning experience. Next time you're there and you see 'em heading for the stage, you'll know when to hit the john... Other than that, leave 'em be... they're probably pissed drunk, and won't remember their aspirations in the morning
hueseph	Date: October 23, 2004 @ 2:48 PM There is nothing better than hard proof. Maybe bring a pocket tape recorder along or better yet hook up to the mixer and get the full deal on cd or tape. After the show maybe even a few days later let them critique their own work. Almost guaranteed they won't reckognize themselves and will deny it even after youve shone some light on the artist in question. In short: your ugliness is only apparent to you when you've seen it in a mirror.
Intergalacti...	Date: October 23, 2004 @ 3:41 PM If its an open mic night no one expects it to be amazing, its like karaoke. Its just an excuse to make fun of your friends and applaud the rest, no matter how good or bad they are. And what hueseph said makes a bit of sense. he might not even know he's bad some people don't so you just gotta film them and show it to them not in a harsh way. Subtly.
danod	Date: October 25, 2004 @ 6:19 PM Good post! I've hosted a few open mics and it IS difficult ... particularly when there are few others around (and getting fewer fast). I once had a fellow ask me for the "truth" about how he sounded. I suggested he could work at hearing himself by recording and listening or sit in a corner so he can hear himself well. In other words, I wimped.
ryanwilliams	Date: October 26, 2004 @ 4:18 PM They already have recordings of themselves sounding terrible. They refer to them as "demo tracks." I'm not going to lock down any open naming of names here where I can't get rid of it, but anyone would like to hear, just note me.
plattishness	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 11:32 AM reminds me of an experience I recently had. I watched a guy called the master blues man (mentioning his name cant really matter). He was terrible, couldnt hit a note blah blah, couldnt hear a lyric. Just plain crap. But as cryxan said, it didnt have to be typically good to be art, or entertaining. It just was, maybe because it was so crap. Who are we to judge someone who has the guts to show people what they create. awesome

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