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sita123	Date: June 1, 2005 @ 12:57 PM hi i was bored so i decided to make a thread to state how cool rock music is and i want to know what so great about rap, i mean all they do is moan and groan and throw abusive words at people even when they're happy (what's that all about?)
moam	Date: June 1, 2005 @ 1:06 PM Meh, not all rap is like that... For example: Tupac, Eminem, ICP, Twiztid, myself, and many other rap artists on this site I have noticed a lot of mainstream rap bullshit that sounds like that...but not all rap is that bad. Eminem has been getting more and more mainstream in my book so pretty soon he will be one of "them" (a 50 cent). So yeah, that's my opinion. You don't have to agree with me.
jordanthegreat	Date: June 1, 2005 @ 1:21 PM i think if you only listen to the mainstream you're missing out on 99% of the real music, it isn't about abusive words, groaning and moaning. It's about a message, and if you take the time to listen to rap/hiphop, you'll soon be finding the messages. Rock music i find boring, i mean how many different ways can you play the same 3 damn chords? There's plenty of needlessly offensive rock music also, just because it's phrased to be more acceptable doesn't make it any less filled with the same kind of mature content as rap or any other genre of music.
kingo	Date: June 1, 2005 @ 1:57 PM There are three chords?!???
pancreaspuppet	Date: June 1, 2005 @ 7:49 PM Sweeping generalisations rule!!! ... rock is a really broad genre... as is hip hop.
jordanthegreat	Date: June 1, 2005 @ 9:11 PM "parallel 5ths are ugly"
pog	Date: June 2, 2005 @ 4:06 AM ...there's nothing like a good, old fashioned, blend of hardcore-rock-newwave-funk-dark-drum-and-bass-rap-style
Cryxan	Date: June 2, 2005 @ 3:42 PM ^ what pancreas said
horusrogue	Date: June 2, 2005 @ 6:28 PM why don;t we name the music category "why rap sucks according to rock lovers"...its liek the only thign we discuss
greatscottpr...	Date: June 2, 2005 @ 6:33 PM shuddup & play da music :egitarist:
greatscottpr...	Date: June 2, 2005 @ 6:33 PM shuddup & play da music
unsterblich	Date: June 2, 2005 @ 8:30 PM "i want to know what so great about rap, i mean all they do is moan and groan and throw abusive words at people even when they're happy (what's that all about?)" lack of education? low iq? inability to communicate? who knows, but there's already a thread for this not further down. seems to me you pretended to post one topic only to take an aimless cheapshot at this "rap" thing.
sita123	Date: June 3, 2005 @ 3:04 PM unsterblich...aimless cheapshot! thanks but that's wrong i just don't understand what's to like.
unsterblich	Date: June 3, 2005 @ 3:27 PM lol i did not take a cheapshot at you, i pointed out that you took one. and no, there is nothing to like about "rap." i was just saying, if you're going to slag it, don't do it in a thread entitled "rock rules." that's like me starting a thread called "apples are great" only to put "oranges suck" in the subject. ya see? ya see.
pancreaspuppet	Date: June 5, 2005 @ 5:38 AM Sorry to perpetuate this, but unsterblich, do you mean perhaps "There's nothing that I like about rap", rather than "there is nothing to like about rap"...? Otherwise I daresay you're guilty of taking an equally "cheap shot".
unsterblich	Date: June 5, 2005 @ 7:45 PM well, if a cheap shot is defined as "a critical statement that takes unfair advantage of a known weakness of the target," no, i'm not guilty of taking one. you're right about my wording error, though. i could rephrase it to, "there is nothing any person with ____ could like about rap," but i fear the blank area would include a lot of words that would most likely be much more offensive than those i've already said, i.e. values, self-respect, civility, etc. and now i've gone and done it just the same... see, now that was a cheap shot.
pancreaspuppet	Date: June 6, 2005 @ 5:12 AM Oh, ok. Sorry. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you made an error, but it seems you are just musically ignorant after all. That's your personal choice though, so I say good luck with that. Its ok though, part of human nature is to fear that which we don't understand, and then that fear extends into hate. I'm sure it's not so bad though, it seems to work out ok for the racists.
zedsalt	Date: June 6, 2005 @ 12:08 PM I'm glad you qualified "ignorant" with "musically". While racism, being willing to slag an entire genre of music, and other forms of prejudice are almost always symptoms of a more general ignorance, I have personally known otherwise intelligent bigots. Sometimes the scope of one's willful ignorance is as narrow as...well, as a bigot's mind.
Alexsy	Date: June 7, 2005 @ 2:39 AM this thread is absurd.
pancreaspuppet	Date: June 7, 2005 @ 8:21 PM "this thread is absurd." And yet you were somehow drawn to it... Zedsalt - right on.
kingo	Date: June 7, 2005 @ 9:54 PM is absurd thread. this
Jesuszilla	Date: June 8, 2005 @ 6:29 AM They're both rubbish, rap is just a bunch of people rappin' and rock is just a bunch of people rockin'.
gerard100	Date: June 13, 2005 @ 10:59 PM my favourite rapper around today would have to be mc paul barman - all that chart rap shit is absolutely abominable - same with rock. with the very odd exception (most recent emergence of real rock talent imo would be the music, and that was a while ago)
Milesthugunion	Date: June 23, 2005 @ 11:15 PM racist mofukaz.
FraDonaghy	Date: July 3, 2005 @ 5:36 PM Sorry... when did it become racist to not like a certain type of music? In fact I think its pretty racist to assume that only one ethnic group can create a certain music style, and therefore be offended by someone not liking it. Rap has its good points, so does rock. But it is all music, and no matter how much you argue about it people's tastes are never going to be the same - that is why so many genres exist in the first place. If you do or don't like a particular genre that doesn't make you right and everyone else wrong. It certainly doesn't make you racist.
FireDrillsGu...	Date: July 19, 2005 @ 9:29 PM Rock is definately alot better than rap. Jordanthegreat couldn't play a good rock song if he wanted to (guitar). At least people in rock bands can play an instrument and they have talent.
imemine	Date: July 19, 2005 @ 9:37 PM Look what you did----you turned Halaka into Yoda! Yoda you did.....