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jkate	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 10:52 AM Whoa now Country...I think you're being a little optimistic about Bush's ability. We're talking about the same man who was caught with cocaine AND charged with driving under the influence. Now, I'm a big believer in evolution of people as PEOPLE, but Bush isn't a savior and he isn't a saint. He's smart enough to take good advice. That's about it...
JFF	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 11:08 AM http://deoxy.lycaeum.org/chimp/index.pl :lol:" id="38066">Bush is a chimp.. no really he is.. http://deoxy.lycaeum.org/chimp/index.pl
jkate	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 11:52 AM Once again, we REALLY need an icon of a smilie spewing soda all over the monitor from laughing so hard
professional...	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 12:18 PM very good jeff
smelv1n	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 12:31 PM JFF, I agree.. look at my webcam pic
JFF	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 12:35 PM
johnnygnote	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 1:07 PM Iraqi people. American Indians must be laughing themselves sick. More than a century ago, Uncle Sam took control of Indian assets -Including oils and gas fields. The government also took control of Indian grazing leases, timber rights and so forth, promising to hold the assets in trust for the Indians. But the government never kept proper track of the money, such as basic bookkeeping and legal errors that if committed by anyone else, would have landed the trustee in prison. Among other things, the government mixed funds owed to some people with other accounts, failed to bill oil companies and other leaseholders for royalty payments and didn't keep tabs on payments to the Indians. Today, more than 300,000 American Indians nationwide may be owed a total of $10 billion say lawyers for the Indians who sued the federal government over the issue. The Boulder-based on Native American Rights Fund and former Denver lawyer Dennis Gingold filed the lawsuit six years ago. The case has dragged on through two presidential administrations and more than a half-decade. The government simply has not figured out how to fix the mess, despite installing a fancy new computer system and making innumerable promises to Indians and to Congress. Now the U.S. government is assuring the world it can properly hold Iraqi oil fields in trust. If events unfold to place the U.S. government in such a position, two questions inevitably will arise. First, the Iraqis may ask why they should trust the U.S. government to treat them any better than Uncle Sam has treated American Indians. Second, if the U.S. government keeps its promises to the Iraqis and implements an efficient, honest accounting system, American Indians will have every right to demand to know why their government can't do the same for them. Fredericka J. Joseph National American Indian Employment Program Manager U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Office of Civil Rights Mail Code 1201A 1200 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, D.C. 20460 Phone: (202) 564-7286 Fax: (202) 501-1836 :wink: I say forget Saddam! Where's Osama???" id="38100">Thumbtack Malaysia sounds like it was a very educational experience for you George Shrub is a BUlly, Saddam was no more a threat to us than a flea on a dog. If he had weapns of MD he would have used them on our troops already. It's a scam, it has nothing to do with our safety. If you believe it does, I have some swamp land in Lubbock Texas I want to sell you. They keep saying it's not about oil (guess again). It'a all about oil, the millions we're are spending and the billions we will spend on reparation is coming out of american pockets, Allow me to present this: ************************************* Saturday, January 25, 2003 U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said this week that if the United States invades and wins in Iraq, our government will hold the country's oil fields "in trust" for the Iraqi people. American Indians must be laughing themselves sick. More than a century ago, Uncle Sam took control of Indian assets -Including oils and gas fields. The government also took control of Indian grazing leases, timber rights and so forth, promising to hold the assets in trust for the Indians. But the government never kept proper track of the money, such as basic bookkeeping and legal errors that if committed by anyone else, would have landed the trustee in prison. Among other things, the government mixed funds owed to some people with other accounts, failed to bill oil companies and other leaseholders for royalty payments and didn't keep tabs on payments to the Indians. Today, more than 300,000 American Indians nationwide may be owed a total of $10 billion say lawyers for the Indians who sued the federal government over the issue. The Boulder-based on Native American Rights Fund and former Denver lawyer Dennis Gingold filed the lawsuit six years ago. The case has dragged on through two presidential administrations and more than a half-decade. The government simply has not figured out how to fix the mess, despite installing a fancy new computer system and making innumerable promises to Indians and to Congress. Now the U.S. government is assuring the world it can properly hold Iraqi oil fields in trust. If events unfold to place the U.S. government in such a position, two questions inevitably will arise. First, the Iraqis may ask why they should trust the U.S. government to treat them any better than Uncle Sam has treated American Indians. Second, if the U.S. government keeps its promises to the Iraqis and implements an efficient, honest accounting system, American Indians will have every right to demand to know why their government can't do the same for them. Fredericka J. Joseph National American Indian Employment Program Manager U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Office of Civil Rights Mail Code 1201A 1200 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, D.C. 20460 Phone: (202) 564-7286 Fax: (202) 501-1836 I say forget Saddam! Where's Osama???
johnnygnote	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 1:12 PM JFF don't insult Chimps
RasMasta	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 1:37 PM Well the war is on. Let's all just support it because it won't end by peace rallys.
JFF	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 1:59 PM johnnygnote, you are right, it's unfair.
CountryMusikMan	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 2:10 PM well it is the american way to take what is not ours and i am all for it when it comes to these ragheads. haaaaahhahhhhhahhhhahaaaa
smelv1n	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 2:25 PM you're a fucking dumbass countrymusikman
JFF	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 2:26 PM "ragheads", that's a bit racist. There are too many people who think like that, and that's why terrorist groups emerge. Hate breeds hate.
jkate	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 2:28 PM "fucking dumbass" was about as sensitive as "ragheads" - Thank god for you people! Now I don't feel so lowly for insinuating copyright infringers are lazy and on welfare. " id="38132">"it is the american way to take what is not ours" - that's why copyright laws were put into effect too "fucking dumbass" was about as sensitive as "ragheads" - Thank god for you people! Now I don't feel so lowly for insinuating copyright infringers are lazy and on welfare.
JFF	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 2:34 PM true, but fking dumbass isn't racist. I have some "raghead" friends." id="38136">" "fucking dumbass" was about as sensitive as "ragheads" " true, but fking dumbass isn't racist. I have some "raghead" friends.
johnnygnote	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 4:11 PM If you want to know and see some of the real story just clik my ID and read my journal, look at the webcam shot and click on the link provided there.
johnnygnote	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 4:19 PM Ras I understand how you feel and I also believe your right about peace rally's. Viet Nam is proof of that. I just can't support the use of young american lives for the conflicts of old farts that only care about $$$ while lying about the reasons. I don't trust any Gov or religion that says I have to hate and kill someone because we are different, while they make deals with each other behind closed doors. Like I said check out my journal and webcam
jkate	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 4:55 PM JFF - I totally concur
Alleagenz	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 5:35 PM Anyone here mention Iran? Well it has a bigger oil field and we could get close to it now, hmmm been here before but not having the same effect on some people like my last post Oil is the main objective, Johnny to true man
johnnygnote	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 5:50 PM Iran is on the list for liberation . I heard a former war analyst say on the radio a very imprtant fact. "forced democracy is a dictatorship".
smelv1n	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 9:13 PM go live under a rock if the word fuck makes your ears bleed. racism just isn't cool.
CountryMusikMan	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 11:11 PM all.That is what i get from you It is like you are so afraid you would rather die instead of retaliate.I don't mind dying,but Im not gonna let it be by the hands of these kinds of people.And yes i trust my Government anyday over these Kinds of people. Is that politically correct enough for you. You gutless cowards!" id="38227">HOW DO YOU EXPECT To trust them. We are sleeping with the enemy! Now you see we are finding weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. Do you people want to let these kinds of people just kill us all.That is what i get from you It is like you are so afraid you would rather die instead of retaliate.I don't mind dying,but Im not gonna let it be by the hands of these kinds of people.And yes i trust my Government anyday over these Kinds of people. Is that politically correct enough for you. You gutless cowards!
thumbtack	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 11:30 PM http://www.womenforiraq.org/letter.html" id="38232">Letter to President Bush February 27, 2003 Dear President Bush: As women from Iraq who fled our homeland to escape persecution by Saddam Hussein’s regime, we write to offer our support for your principled leadership. We applaud your determination to disarm Saddam and your commitment to help liberate the people of Iraq. We are daughters, mothers, wives, and sisters whose families and communities have suffered for too long. We stand with you because only the United States and its allies can help the people of Iraq break free from Saddam’s 34 years of brutal rule. Those who have taken to the streets with signs reading, “No War on Iraq” are misled. It is Saddam who has been waging war on the people of Iraq. Every day that this war continues, more of our brothers and sisters will suffer from Saddam’s totalitarian and racist policies. A quarter million Iraqis have been murdered in summary executions and mass killings - thousands of them gassed with chemical weapons. Millions have been forcibly displaced in ethnic cleansing campaigns, their homes destroyed, their property seized, their relatives deported and never seen again. Public beheadings, arbitrary arrests, torture and rape are routinely used to intimidate the population. This systematic campaign of terror will never stop until Saddam and the Ba'ath party are removed from power We regret that the use of force to remove Saddam’s evil regime will entail the suffering of innocent people. But we also know that many lives have been lost in the past and many more will be lost in the future if Saddam is not stopped. The cost of inaction and appeasement would be very high for the people of America and Iraq alike. We know from personal experience that Saddam cannot be “contained” and will always be a danger to the world. The Iraqi people will help to liberate their country, just as they heeded America’s call to rise up against Saddam after the Gulf War in 1991. But without American assistance, that uprising was crushed. Some of us participated in that uprising, risking our lives and losing relatives. When the United States comes to our assistance this time, the Iraqi people will not only be grateful, we will join in. But we cannot overthrow Saddam on our own. We look forward to the day when, with the help of Americans and others of good will, Iraq can take its place as a Free World nation – a nation that is founded on the rule of law and equal rights for all citizens, where women participate fully in society, their rights respected and protected. As you plan for a post-Saddam Iraq, we ask you to maintain your commitment to establishing the building blocks of democracy, and to ensure that no neighboring powers interfere militarily with our desire to live in a free, pluralistic and democratic Iraq. Anything less would be an opportunity foregone to dramatically change the fate of millions of Iraqis, and sow the seeds for even greater changes across the Middle East. Again, we wish to extend our heartfelt support to you for your leadership, and our gratitude to all Americans who will be asked to risk both lives and treasure to remove Saddam. Know that the Iraqi people will eagerly contribute everything they have to the task. Our prayers are with you, with the American people, and with the Iraqi people. Women for a Free Iraq http://www.womenforiraq.org/letter.html
milladrive	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 11:40 PM I am not a gutless coward.
Jennae	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 11:40 PM well I have very good friends with families living over there in IRAQ right now, and they tell me how glad they are, and how they hope Saddam is killed! I have recently been told many horror stories of just what exactly happens over there, and what they do to women, men, children... it's terrible. It has been a real eye opener to hear about someone from IRAQ who is more supportive of the war than I am. It really give you a broader perspective on things. Just kill the bastard so our boys can come home!
thumbtack	Date: March 23, 2003 @ 11:43 PM http://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/iraq0303/ " id="38236">Another excellent link for those who think this war is just about oil. http://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/iraq0303/
Alleagenz	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 12:22 AM Another thing to that strikes me is it is like the war is a big showcase of weaponry, yer some might say its to frighten the world or some might say theres some mega new arsenal for sale here, come and get it!! Oh and yes the oil, ok maybe we could give Iraq its oil when you have the biggest supplier in Iran next door, oh and please someone mention 9/11 when its known that Iraq did not supply Al-qeada, Hezbollah and PLO guerillas suicide bombers yes, but not al qeada. Terrorists attacks wow Britain has had its fair share, i wonder who supplied the enemy? hmmmmm.
JFF	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 7:12 AM ^ Exactly. If it was all for freedom of the people, they would have gone in some time ago. It's funny to hear American people going on about terrorism when they are only just beginning to realise what it means. The British have had to put up with it for more than 30 years from the IRA, which has been heavily funded by American companies over the years (McDonalds anyone?). I suppose at least Bush has put the Real IRA on his terrorist black-list, banning funding to them from American citizens & freezing any assets they have in the USA. About time. The worrying thing at the moment (well it worries me anyway) is that Al-qeada are believed to be planning attacks on American & British targets, while we are distracted by this war.
thumbtack	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 9:25 AM Maybe the Brits should bring those troops home from N. Ireland to protect Bristish soil.
billhudson	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 11:59 AM War is not good and when will they ever learn? Like the song goes, when will they ever learn? Still Pickin' Bill Hudson" id="38294">Ok, when I was in DC marching with some other folks against this war (war for oil)there was only one pro war bunch of folks. And they keep saying, "yea, what about the vets?" And to my right I heard a young man who was marching with us say, "USMC, right here bud, what do you want?" War is not good and when will they ever learn? Like the song goes, when will they ever learn? Still Pickin' Bill Hudson
clandestiny	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 12:19 PM so maybe we should just sit here and be destroyed by a maniac who will kill every single one of us if given the chance?
johnnygnote	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 12:32 PM In the 70's/80's while we were supporting the freedom fighters in Central America and the CIA was running coke for weapons. We were sending the weapons to Iraq to fight with Iran. I had the pleasure of running an underground railroad, I transported a Woman, her daughter, and the daughters 3 chldren to the north of our country from where I live. The mother was the head of a group in El Salvadore that opposed war and the behaviour of thier government, may of her colleagues had been killed. It was our government that was supporting the oppression they ran from. You guys just don't get it. We as a government have been supporting governments and then tearing them down to keep the military budget as large as it is. It was a General/President that warned the people of the US of this behaviour. His name was Eisenhower. He called it the Military Industrial Complex. Of course it's not just about OIL, but the spin the spinmasters create can and does manipulate your sentiment and opinion. We as people have a right to do whats right, but as far as governments go there is an insidious side none of us get to see. The deals are made behind doors that will never open for the average person. It's about money and control not FREEDOM. The things that happen on the outside of the picture are for our benefit. Yes it's true that the women of Iraq and the people who suffer in most of these regimes deserve to be freed, but at what expense? I'm not just going off half cocked here. I've spent many years researching and finding information that would take a whole book to explain. I'm not a gutless coward. It takes more nads to stand up and speak against the grain risking judgement and harassment from those who have believed the propaganda created with truth, half truths and lies comingled. I don't want to put anyone off but I know what I know and I tell you Bush and his family are a part of an elite group of people world wide that do not have our best interests in mind. I pray for the troops that are only pawns in a game played by ruthless men. Young people dying for what they believe is justice but in the long run will only be a step in world domination of a much more insidious evil greater than Goddam Insane ever could be. And since this debate has reached a stalemate for me I will return to my normal broadcasting of music and musical endeavours on a musical site that i love. If you want to discuss this issue with me please feel free to do so by shouting and noting me. I say more power to you no matter what you believe to be true. I'm done with this string
jkate	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 1:08 PM Bill H - given the choice between another 9/11 where we are caught off guard and doing some ugly business to ensure our continued liberty, I'll pick the second. johnny - I'd like to live to see the day when old republican money does not control the world (ie, the media) anymore...and I don't doubt that Bush's ilk are more concerned with self-augmentation and power, and as Saddaam is paying his dues for his countless crimes against humanity, so will the Good Old Boys one day be held responsible for theirs. Taking a macro view of the world...human beings have come a long way in destroying dictatorship and the basic right not to be controlled by someone else...while we're not directly controlled by a king anymore, we're being indirectly controlled by media conglomerates and old money. We will notice, and we will fix it one day." id="38298">And this , we like to call him "para guy" not to be confused with "paraguay" which is something else entirely...hehehe Bill H - given the choice between another 9/11 where we are caught off guard and doing some ugly business to ensure our continued liberty, I'll pick the second. johnny - I'd like to live to see the day when old republican money does not control the world (ie, the media) anymore...and I don't doubt that Bush's ilk are more concerned with self-augmentation and power, and as Saddaam is paying his dues for his countless crimes against humanity, so will the Good Old Boys one day be held responsible for theirs. Taking a macro view of the world...human beings have come a long way in destroying dictatorship and the basic right not to be controlled by someone else...while we're not directly controlled by a king anymore, we're being indirectly controlled by media conglomerates and old money. We will notice, and we will fix it one day.
RasMasta	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 1:35 PM Saddam is executing our soldiers on TV. We have to end him.
jkate	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 4:18 PM No he's not!!!!!!! jesus really?
professional...	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 4:48 PM doubt there is televised executions though. (oh and we aren't watching all those innocents die when we see footage of all those bombs going off? aren't we all hypocritical?) is just tastefully done in the west isn't it?" id="38319">all people are doing in this war is killing their own side. looks like it's not as easy as all the "pro-war" people thought. doubt there is televised executions though. (oh and we aren't watching all those innocents die when we see footage of all those bombs going off? aren't we all hypocritical?) is just tastefully done in the west isn't it?
jkate	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 7:52 PM But I still think the force is necessary at this point...nobody said it would be easy." id="38343">I went to CNN today and was horrified to see pictures of the casualties, how they died...and one person had a fucking video feed of "family mourns" - no doubt a home video of the wife hearing from the officers that her husband died, she's bawling all over the place, lets CNN tape it, ratings get boosted...it's sick. Truly sick. But I still think the force is necessary at this point...nobody said it would be easy.
smelv1n	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 8:34 PM why the fuck are you watching CNN?
RasMasta	Date: March 24, 2003 @ 9:19 PM CNN news reporters are getting fucked trying to cover this story.
professional...	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 1:50 PM ITN lost one on sunday. (ITN is like CNN only it reports on news that happens involving places other than america)
JFF	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 2:09 PM
MiltGatch	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 3:30 PM other places than america???
professional...	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 3:36 PM and also about people who aren't americans (not just iraqis getting shot to shit either)
smelv1n	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 4:03 PM where is this "places other than america" you speak of??
JFF	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 4:08 PM open your wardrobe, step inside, walk forward a bit, take the 1st right. A lion will guide you from there.
jkate	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 4:21 PM CNN.com you ass. (hey this is fun to curse at other members!!!)" id="38477">I wasn't "fucking" watching CNN, I was on CNN.com you ass. (hey this is fun to curse at other members!!!)
JFF	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 5:13 PM I watched CNN ... once.
professional...	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 5:52 PM who's a donkey? (reading the posts i think i get who you mean now) this is another one of those language barrier things. ass = donkey
jkate	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 5:59 PM LOL - ass also means (__!__) your actual ass.
professional...	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 6:56 PM again another language thing. we know that as an arse. (_!_)
JFF	Date: March 25, 2003 @ 7:02 PM ass is fatter than arse then?
thesession	Date: March 29, 2003 @ 5:25 PM http://soulshack.dmusic.com/ " id="39045">I disagree with what they say. But would totally defend their right to say it. If they were Iraqi and had spoken out against Saddam would they still be around? By the way I am a Brit and fully support my government and all of our troops fighting in Iraq. http://soulshack.dmusic.com/
ineedmoney	Date: February 18, 2004 @ 12:15 PM shut the hell up smelv1n its u that gots the big fucking mouth

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