DMusic.com | for indie musicians and fans | Free MP3 music downloads

Forums > Music

Does anybody listen?

hahili	Date: January 5, 2012 @ 5:01 AM Hi! Guess there are no statistics here anymore,so please listen to my music! Bye, Hans
Distilled1	Date: January 5, 2012 @ 6:59 PM we do still listen
MioMabusy	Date: January 6, 2012 @ 5:59 AM What music we will listen? http://performingartsinfo.com/
farfor44	Date: January 7, 2012 @ 9:30 AM We've all seen listens drop off in the past year,but if we can turn that around this site will grow again! I'm trying to do my share. If we want to get listens,we must be willing to listen! Step it up everybody!
mundale	Date: January 8, 2012 @ 2:14 PM If I don't leave a comment it means I don't like the song for some reason or I missed the song when it was posted. I try to show up here once a week.
farfor44	Date: January 8, 2012 @ 2:25 PM That seems logical to me,I think most of us are that way.
miraclemaker	Date: January 8, 2012 @ 9:02 PM I remember we had a listening contest awhile back which I won first place. That kinda promo stirs the listeners/members and made it possible for alot of unheard tunes to get noticed and commented on... ah, the good ol days
farfor44	Date: January 9, 2012 @ 9:02 AM Yes the listening contest helped create traffic here at dmusic.and I hope you're getting good use of the new headphones,and the 1 yr subscription that you won as 1st prize winner,as well as all the CDs of dm artists..some say dmusic is just artists critiquing each others works,and competing for non-artist listens and comments. Well yes!that seems to be the norm at every independent artist site I've been involved with.. Dmusic to me is a community not some big corporation,where you have to throw each other under the bus to rise to the top! We should remember the good old days at dm with fondness,and past members who've moved on in the same way,but we shouldn't ignore legitimate new artists & members who become members weekly.. nuff said!love ya DMers...
Vocalatti	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 7:38 AM So Nice to see a proper forum on a music site...I think its just as important as the musique!!!
Distilled1	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:24 PM jasper I deleted your comment as you had a sig that went to a Trojan site sorry.... never forget the new members !!! I will do a listen type contest here soon my way my prize it will be a CD or 2 and $ not much but a worth the while .. I am thinking not just listen but promotion of the site .. looking for a start with info feb 14th everyone remind me
ShadowMom	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:30 PM Go, Scooby, go!
GTOriginal	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:30 PM Hmmmmmm..... Well, I have a big difference of opinion with the community about this particular topic. Case in point: My tunes were all reposted a while back and not one person has checked any of them out. I applaud you for because if I learned one thing after nine years on DMusic it's this: Any attention you need to beg for is simply not worth having. The idea of "listen to get listens" makes me want to puke. Not to be offensive, I know this is the structure of most web sites, but I really do not want that kind of gratuitous attention for my stuff. The only thing I can think of that would suck more is to pay for a feature on the site. Don't get me wrong: If, for example, I were doing music for a LIVING I would maybe consider that sort of thing to be an investment. Everyone comes from a different place, and whatever works for you is fine. I would expect the same kind of tolerance myself. Just don't expect an automatic return listen if you ever check my stuff out. I will thank you but I don't owe you a thing beyond that. Let's face it, I pretty much check everything out anyway out of a desire to be entertained by good tunes, not to satisfy some lame demand by the site to keep the traffic flowing and the numbers up. Those who would hold these standards in a negative light have my pity. Makes no difference if the artist is new (yet I am always happy to support new people), or if they have been here longer than I have. Doesn't matter if they like my stuff or hate it, or even if they boycott it for some other childish reason, ahem. If you see a comment of mine on one of your tunes, it is genuine and heartfelt, period. If you want a "critique", there are many people who consider themselves authorative enough to give you one. I don't have that kind of arrogance. Glad to help if you think I can but I will never consider myself better than you are even if you are on day #1. I could care not one whit about the owners or a management that would turn its back on the artists and users here. As long as there are tunes I will continue to listen, and as long as there is space I will continue to post. ~GT
ShadowMom	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:31 PM Btw, are the stats in the file manager also not working?
ShadowMom	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:35 PM Gary, you make some good points, but I believe the idea of a contest is more to encourage participation and interaction. Doesn't that make more sense than simply trying to drum up traffic?
Distilled1	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:41 PM you are spot on Gary and that is how I play anymore .. at one time I was doing or trying to do for a living ... that makes sense to pay for features and to get stats up etc .. yep it helps and can mean a contract or not or $50 more an hour LOL \ at Mom I don't know if the stats in the file manager work no one listens to my old music LOL but I would think it is no (not that I have paid much attention since the first year I was here
GTOriginal	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:45 PM Of course it does! A contest can be a very good way of doing all that. I will be glad to help, participate, and interact. Not really interested in "competing" for a prize but will be more than happy to donate one (music, time, whatever). Hope it works out, should be interesting.
GTOriginal	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:47 PM Of course it does! A contest can be a very good way of doing all that. I will be glad to help, participate, and interact. Not really interested in "competing" for a prize but will be more than happy to donate one (music, time, whatever). Hope it works out, should be interesting.
GTOriginal	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:48 PM If I refresh this page it'll turn a double-post into a tripl-post...and beyond
Distilled1	Date: January 10, 2012 @ 8:54 PM WOOOT! that is just great code hu? "rofl:
ChillinBuzz	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 9:53 AM Those file stats definitely don't work properly, or at all. I've streamed some of my own tunes to make sure they were uploaded ok from a friend's pc... The stats sure as hell don't reflect those listens. Gary, your input, like everyone else's, matters. I'm not saying you should give a flying fart for the management or the staff, I'm guessing that if the site died we'd all probably grumble to some degree and move on, however I think anyone who wants to see this place start heading back down the path it was meant to be on SHOULD care at least a little what the headless chickens in charge are doing... DM was and should always be a community-driven site. Not simply a storage area with pages just to be listened to. I thought that was something that made this place special. The gripes, groans and grudges of the past between users, artists, staff & the owners should be put to one side... If only to try to bring this place back to life.
elektronz	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 10:10 AM did i hear the word contest !!!
elektronz	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 10:12 AM i dont care about stats ,,all i care about is being here ,music ,everyone elses music ,remixing ,collabs and curries
elektronz	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 10:15 AM oh and the weirdest noise ive ever heard is a fanny fart ,,,
elektronz	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 10:15 AM thats a uk fanny fart by the way
farfor44	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 10:54 AM I must correct something I said earlier I said miraclemaker won the headphones when it was actually Mary who won the headphones..But I still stand by my earlier statement about getting what you give Gary..I had this same discussion with ime years ago,and he always wanted to assign some legal term like Quid pro Quo to my suggestion that what we are doing is bartering our trading our music. I love ime and miss him,but every time I listened & commented he felt I had some unseen motive,especially if it was right after he had listened and commented on one of my tracks,he called it quid pro quo~ I called it common courtesy. Miss ya bro! We do something for something all our lives when we work we expect wages,when we go to school we expect to be educated.. Gary I love ya bro and I'm no psychiatrist,but I think this whole sympathy listen thing says more about your insecurities,than it does about anybody else. anyway I'm glad we are finally having this discussion.
GTOriginal	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 3:09 PM I dunno, I always found the whole crit-for-crit thing disturbing, because it undermines the reason I make music - to entertain. Again, others may do it for money, recognition, or even to pay each other back, which is fine, just not for me. If the fact that I don't "barter my music" here means I'm insecure then I am in good company; a sensitive artist on a site full of them. I am certainly not a whore, there's that anyway. I hold my head pretty darn high and sleep extremely well for an insecure person, doctor.
GTOriginal	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 3:28 PM PS - Common courtesy is fine. My problem is not with the common deceny of a return listen if that's how you play Gene (remember my line about tolerance?) For me this whole thing becomes an issue when it is listed in black and white and stamped out as a rule on the site, because the very act of doing so removes common courtesy from the equation and replaces it with obligation. Imemine was right on the money about that, God rest his soul... Just my opinion brother. I hate being told what to do, even in a passive way. Bend it into an insecurity or other character flaw if that works for you. I'm AOK with it... Meanwhile I will keep right on listening, posting, and loving life like always.
smtucker	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 5:17 PM You don't know Gary very well.
farfor44	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 5:54 PM Vhy yes Mr.Tucker you should hold your head high,and sleep well,because no one has accused you of being an insecure or insensitive person,or a whore.. okay lets see if I have this right a music whore is an artist who sell his or her creations,or talents for profit?? I'm looking on the computer here in the dr.s office~Okay your dm artist page I'm showing free downloads on each track that's a +,and a $5.00 artist donation since that's donation that means no play for pay so that's a +,but wait as I look through my collection of CDs in my dr. office entertainment center I find ah ha! Rubber Balls & Liquor by GToriginal wait what happened to the rest of my GT CDs oh nevermind prolly borrowed them! Anyvay Mr.Tucker it appears you're only partially right about not being a Whore..Ve must find a new definition mmm how about Strumpet???or Slut?? vud that be acceptable Mr.Tucker?
farfor44	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 6:29 PM Ghees I sure didn't mean for this to upset anyone! people have different opinions,I accept that. I hate drama, and I'm not sure if I'm to blame for the drama created here or not. Gary I noticed your listen and comment on my new one,and I am going to respond,and thank you proper,but tomorrow after some time has elapsed might be better knowing the way you feel about it..thanks friend!
GTOriginal	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 7:56 PM I don't give my stuff away free anymore, except to those I consider friends. A little birdie told me not to, beyond the demo that I hand out at gigs and have posted here and elsewhere. It's ten bucks per disk on garytucker.bandcamp.com (I was talking "attention whore" not "music whore" lmao). Listens are always free Selling your music is fine, but crit-for-crit requirements on a free site suck the royal ass. This is why Garageband.com is dead, and good riddance to it. Again, just my opinion; agree or don't, makes no difference (and no drama whatsoever; this is why the forums exist in the first place). The fact that you guys have my stuff in your collection is a testament to your own good taste. And thanks to this thread you also know where to go if you ever decide to bring that collection up to date you lucky dog. I enjoyed your tune, and put forth an opinion about it, cause that's what we do here. You don't need to spend any more energy on that, I got my pleasure already & it's all good bro.
miraclemaker	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 9:23 PM I have had experiences with people that expect comments and I for one leave them most often cause I want to. I also listen and sometimes dont comment but thats pretty rare. But I dont feel that commenting is manditory "I do cause I wanna do" (*Rocky ). Since the beginning when I first joined. This site was unique and seemed so different and alive - which I found no place else with online music sites. Pretty much joined made a pro, uped a few pica and watched it create dust...lol I liked how the way dmusic worked and the emotes that we use here are too fun Epecially remember Aorpete, besides from being one of the best musicians(and theres alot here)he had a way of leaving comments full of emotes and even the occasional pic. So again I guess what Im saying here is there should be no pressure for someone to leave comments, it just make sense if you dig the tunes, and that kindness can reflect back to you ~peace
miraclemaker	Date: January 11, 2012 @ 9:24 PM btw, where my preview gotta love this site
farfor44	Date: January 15, 2012 @ 11:55 AM I really like this discussion,and think we need to explore it just a bit more. Since it's been suggested that some here at dmusic are "attention whores" I need to know more about exactly what that term means.. I sure wouldn't want to get that confused with a "Points Whore"Which is another term we use for the user who must be at the top of the community points chart daily supposedly just so their avatar will be constantly visible because they are so vain or ego driven.. I don't buy that,neither do I buy the idea of doing away with the points system..Take for instance our wonderful admin ShadowMom she has nearly 2 million points,and I see that as a badge of honor,and respect for the health and well being of dmusic..We wouldn't want to drive her away with a negative term like Points Whore! We love you mum! The same holds true for the community top Commenters chart. if someone has the most song comments for the day their avatar deserves to be at the top of the list... since listening and commenting is the very life blood of dmusic! Okay I'm done!
GTOriginal	Date: January 15, 2012 @ 2:50 PM In using the phrase "attention whore", I was not suggesting that they abound here at DMusic (aggresive). I stated that I was not an attention whore (defensive). A small distinction but an important one. No whore or user of any kind abounds on DMusic because quite frankly it's just the four to six of us here these days. I was simply referring to anyone who would put comments on another artist's songs for no other reason but to receive the required, mandatory, expected, garageband-style retaliatory return comment on their own stuff. Perhaps I should have said "comment whore". This would be much less important if all the artists were able to delete such comments from their songs. My attitude on this topic lines up with Miraclemaker up ^ there to a T. He's just nicer and more articulate I suppose. I do not believe common courtesy can be mandated or even suggested, because it is by definition an act of free will. I have never once met an artist who would come on, post music, then start crying for attention without at least checking out some tunes first. Nope. Not even one time. RE The points system. I vote to remove it as not really important. I also vote to remove the "featured user" ribbon because in my opinion it makes the site appear cliquish; the community never had a say in who receives those things in the first place. Now: Top Listeners and Top Commenters for the day - I like those things, therefore my vote is that they stay.
zedsalt	Date: January 16, 2012 @ 5:32 PM Personally, I wouldn't miss either the points or featured user. But by saying that, I don't wish to imply that I don't appreciate being a featured user a sh'load of times (I think I might have one of those red ribbons right now). So...like Gary, I wouldn't want to suggest that there's any DM cliquishness, but say, just for example, if there was such a thing as an "in crowd", would that mean I've been in it?
farfor44	Date: January 16, 2012 @ 6:51 PM Zed Quote"would that mean I've been in it?" It certainly would,and Gary has also~ It works on rotation, always has! Little attention has been payed to the artist who started this thread Hans Frommer,who is an excellent musician,but he just wasn't getting any listens so he posted this thread,to ask why..Aside from listening to his music,and being amazed at how talented Hans is I discovered on his user page the reason for the lack of listens He's received. Member since July 29,2003~Artists comments 112~ These stats tell a complete story,and unless Han's changes those stats,his music will continue to collect dust,and that's a shame because he's so talented. Interaction is the key to having a healthy artist page..
GTOriginal	Date: January 16, 2012 @ 7:23 PM I have never been listed as a featured user on DMusic. No red ribbons on my avatar. Maybe I don't snap to the groupthink quickly enough. Whatever, I really need to check out of the discussion. I made my position on comment requirements sparkling clear and don't need to repeat the obvious; my stats tell a story as well. Back to listening, commenting, and maybe even posting (although my own creativity slows to a crawl this time of year) ~GT
zedsalt	Date: January 17, 2012 @ 7:35 AM I have a few Hans Frommer tunes on my little personal use compilation CDs, posted a link on FB as part of a trio of tunes I was in the moood for that morning. Gary's "Flaming Owls of Armageddon" might've been one of the other ones. Speaking of which...of who? of whom?...I may've misunderstood how "featured artist" works. I thought if there was a little red ribbon beside one's avvie on his/her DM-dot-net page, that meant he/she was "featured" somehow, as an artist or as a user, and I would've sworn I've seen plenty of those on GTOriginal's. If there's an Amish-style shunning going on, no one told this little Amishman. And if I'm part of the in crowd, no less, that makes for an awfully ineffective shunning. For a proper shunning, EVERYBODY has to know about it.

Post A Reply
From:	Guest	(Icons - Linking)
Post: