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FatSamoan	Date: December 17, 2001 @ 10:10 PM dmusic.com ... and I must say that I missed it. But I noticed one thing hasn't changed at all since I left ... alot of people here LOVE to HATE the RIAA. Why all the hatred??? Why expend so much time into hating an organization? I don't know ... maybe I've been out of it for too long, or maybe I just haven't been doing my homework. Anyone care to bring me up to speed?? FatSamoan" id="1696">It's been awhile since I've been on dmusic.com ... and I must say that I missed it. But I noticed one thing hasn't changed at all since I left ... alot of people here LOVE to HATE the RIAA. Why all the hatred??? Why expend so much time into hating an organization? I don't know ... maybe I've been out of it for too long, or maybe I just haven't been doing my homework. Anyone care to bring me up to speed?? FatSamoan
Fozzie	Date: December 17, 2001 @ 11:35 PM because there was this one time at simon's house...he was having this huge pizza party for anyone that wanted to come. and the riaa ppl came and they were like all up in his shiz, and he was like hey yo dont eat all the sausage pizza. and the riaa was like yo ass betta recognize. and they ate all the pizza and left and said if you get all this free music, we get all your free pizza. so now we get free music and simon still has to give the riaa free pizza. so thats why.
Frawgster	Date: December 19, 2001 @ 12:19 AM actually marq...i thought we hated them because they're a bunch of greedy, stubbon, fucked up, whoring, back-stabbing sons-of-bitches? Well, now that I think about it, that pizza party thing was really fucked up too. They never did repay simon for the pizza did they? i guess hilary the hog didnt feel she had to reciprocate. bitch.
spyed	Date: December 19, 2001 @ 3:02 PM Personally I don't have many problems with the RIAA. They're an organization dedicated to protecting the interests of record labels. I don't even disagree with record labels, they're doing their thing and taking risks trying to break aritsts to make a buck.. and it's not an easy business. I'd say my only problem is that I'm a consumer with fewer rights than I thought to begin wtih and every day they are lessened. Beyond that, I'm 20 years old and growing up in the digital age; I want music digitally and there's no way for me to get it the way that I want it. I don't have options to pay, even if I wanted to pay ... and as a result I'm considered a pirate. I'd agree, originally I was a pirate.. but it's been years, and digital music is proving to not be a fad of some kind, it's proving to be the future of music distribution and even after all of these years I still can't get it legally and I'm still called a pirate. These days I'm much older than when I first started with digital music, I don't have lame excuses as to why I can't pay; I can. In fact, I'm willing. So if anything, my beef with the recording industry is that they aren't letting me pay them. `Angelo
Fozzie	Date: December 20, 2001 @ 12:29 AM i'm still considered a pirate too. but it's only because of my eye patch and my fondness of traveling the sea and taking over other ships. ah well...i guess i'll never shake the 'pirate' label.
SoulSausage	Date: December 20, 2001 @ 1:38 AM And um... right, pirates. Just like how the so-called "pope" is so-called "catholic." No Mr. Pope, you can't fool me. You're Jesus in disguise and you still owe me 5 bucks! GIMME! You bastard! GIMME!!! One day, I will rule you, Jésus Crístos. Una día. Damn, slipping into mode of... español. Must go a la... français ou peut-être anglais! ACH! Got to leave! -S to da S" id="1736">Ever heard Pretty Hate Anthem by Marilyn Manson? If you listen well, at the very beginning, they're yelling, "We hate love! We love hate!" over and over. It's cool. And um... right, pirates. Just like how the so-called "pope" is so-called "catholic." No Mr. Pope, you can't fool me. You're Jesus in disguise and you still owe me 5 bucks! GIMME! You bastard! GIMME!!! One day, I will rule you, Jésus Crístos. Una día. Damn, slipping into mode of... español. Must go a la... français ou peut-être anglais! ACH! Got to leave! -S to da S
inrage	Date: December 21, 2001 @ 12:56 AM The problem with the subscriptions that are available is they stream the music or wont let you put them on portable players. If I pay for a song, I dont want it for a week, I want to own it and do what I want with it. Make mixes of it, listen to it portably..etc. Let's say this "piracy" is hurting the music industry, they certainly haven't made any loses. Maybe instead of making 10 billion this year, they only made 8 billion. It's ridiculous.
Frawgster	Date: December 21, 2001 @ 10:41 AM I guess my real beef with the RIAA is that they refuse to let me hear the music I buy when I want, where I want and how I want. They insist on trying to make me pay for a cd, then pay to download/listen to the cd on my puter, then pay to burn the songs from that cd onto another disc. I, like Angelo, am willing to pay...shit...I WANT to pay, but I DON'T WANT to pay for the same music 3 times just to listen to it the way I want to listen to it. I understand that the RIAA, the labels, the artists, they're all businesspeople of sorts. They're all in it to make money, but they shouldn't screw their listeners to make that money.
smelv1n	Date: December 21, 2001 @ 9:01 PM lousy RIAA stole me treasure! AARGH!
TheWitchingHour	Date: December 22, 2001 @ 4:44 AM I listen to a lot of indie material so file trading I really haven't taken part of other than checking out someone's suggestion about this or that artist/band and if I liked it I would buy the disc. I don't think I would be willing to pay for downloads because I don't download much at all other than checking out someone's suggestions but if I buy a disc I want to make legit copies to my portable player.
milladrive	Date: December 22, 2001 @ 1:53 PM For what, Ange, so they can pocket the same percentage of money they've been pocketing? So the industry can maintain complete control of every copy and perhaps gain control of every listen?? So the same 1/10th of a percentage of talented musicians can ever become successful??? Why do we need to pay the RIAA? Why can't we pay the artists directly? Like you, I wanna pay to help support the artists, but evidently, unlike you, I don't care much for supporting Hilary's shrimp cocktails. You can consider them an upstanding ally if ya want, but actually, imo, Frawg isn't too far off when he calls them "a bunch of greedy, stubbon, fucked up, whoring, back-stabbing sons-of-bitches." If they were simple businesspeople tryin' to make a buck, I could respect that. But they're not. They're money-grubbing whores who keep up to 90% of the income. The sooner we realize that the RIAA needs to be superannuated in favor of an RA(rtists)AA or sump'm like that, the sooner some of us'll be able to hop off whatever fence we happen to be on." id="1773">"So if anything, my beef with the recording industry is that they aren't letting me pay them." For what, Ange, so they can pocket the same percentage of money they've been pocketing? So the industry can maintain complete control of every copy and perhaps gain control of every listen?? So the same 1/10th of a percentage of talented musicians can ever become successful??? Why do we need to pay the RIAA? Why can't we pay the artists directly? Like you, I wanna pay to help support the artists, but evidently, unlike you, I don't care much for supporting Hilary's shrimp cocktails. You can consider them an upstanding ally if ya want, but actually, imo, Frawg isn't too far off when he calls them "a bunch of greedy, stubbon, fucked up, whoring, back-stabbing sons-of-bitches." If they were simple businesspeople tryin' to make a buck, I could respect that. But they're not. They're money-grubbing whores who keep up to 90% of the income. The sooner we realize that the RIAA needs to be superannuated in favor of an RA(rtists)AA or sump'm like that, the sooner some of us'll be able to hop off whatever fence we happen to be on.
smelv1n	Date: December 22, 2001 @ 7:51 PM i like chocolate shrimp
ebjcoat	Date: December 29, 2001 @ 10:01 PM I hate the riaa because everybody else does.
FatSamoan	Date: January 2, 2002 @ 9:32 PM News.com has an article on it. Anyways back on topic. Are you TRULY willing to pay for digital music? And what would it take for you to consider paying for Digital Music long term? What would make it a better solution then buying a CD and ripping your own mp3's? FatSamoan" id="1899">Wow, I leave for one week and my topic is number 1 when I get back. I must say that I enjoy all the arguments being made aout topics like this. Frawg, glad to see you back. I remember some of the conversations we've had in past and it has really helped out. And to that extent I must agree with you. Like you I am too willing pay for my music, but I also don't want to pay for it several times. Pressplay and Musicnet (dubbed PressPause and MusicNot) aren't a solution to me. It's like they don't know WHAT the hell they are doing and came up with this streaming thing. Do they understand that to maintain a system like that ... even IF it were to get popular, would cost them MORE than it's costing them with this pirate trading that's going on now? Oh yea ... did you guys hear about the Trojan Horse in Grokster and LimeWire? If you use those be careful. News.com has an article on it. Anyways back on topic. Are you TRULY willing to pay for digital music? And what would it take for you to consider paying for Digital Music long term? What would make it a better solution then buying a CD and ripping your own mp3's? FatSamoan
TheRidge	Date: January 19, 2002 @ 7:34 PM once.That's why rules made for the physical world will not manage it correctly." id="2333">Im with spyed on this one. But I think online music should have its own rules made up by someone who has nothing to do with the music industry as it is today, they've borrowed too much from laws on CD recording/prodcing wheras online music has no concrete form, it can, for instance be in two places at once.That's why rules made for the physical world will not manage it correctly.
tinfoil	Date: January 20, 2002 @ 8:35 AM How can one not hate an organization that wants to dictate your rights to you? It's that simple. The RIAA is no longer a benign organization who's purpose is to protect the artists. It is now an org who's sole purpose is to protect the record companies bottom line at the expense of the consumer. Naw, I don't hate them
TheRidge	Date: January 20, 2002 @ 3:49 PM That's why I think they should have their right to oversee music on the internet taken away from them. The only problem then is how to stop bill gates taking online music over.
FatSamoan	Date: February 11, 2002 @ 6:14 PM Leave it to me to prevent Bill Gates from taking over digital music on the internet. Trust me. I just want to have one name stay with you guys for the next 6-8 months. Nodrone. Nodrone is a promising technology that has a looooong road ahead of them, but they are hopeful. Someone mentioned that a group outside of the recording industry would be more beneficial, well, that's what Nodrone is.
FatSamoan	Date: February 11, 2002 @ 6:16 PM oh yea ... how do I get a picture thingy next to my name? I know I'm an idiot but hey ... I still want to know.
Blackcraft	Date: February 13, 2002 @ 12:40 AM A modified quote from said movie - "The more you tighten your grip, Hillary Rosen, the more file share systems will slip through your fingers. I hope this makes for a good first post! " id="3474">I'm reminded of a movie in which the villian "The Evil Empire" reminds me of the RIAA. A modified quote from said movie - "The more you tighten your grip, Hillary Rosen, the more file share systems will slip through your fingers. I hope this makes for a good first post!

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